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9141540 No.9141540 [Reply] [Original]

Forgive me if this isn't the right board to ask, but what exactly is the difference between a flash cart for a console, and one of those multi-pack carts for a console? Is the technology they use essentially the same? Do multi-carts function as well as flash carts do? I'm interested in getting a gameboy advance one since they aren't very expensive.

>> No.9141615

Usually, a flashcart is a cartridge that loads games from an SD card.

Technically, a flashcart may also mean a rewritable cartridge holding one or more built in games. These are more commonly called reproduction cartridges or bootlegs.

>> No.9141674

It seems that a lot of these recent multicarts are able to be reflashed if you have a device capable of doing it
You'd still be better getting a proper quality flashcart instead

>> No.9141710

>>9141540
The chance of you losing all your saves and other quality control issues. You are getting the whole library on one cartridge with an everdrive, just shell out the one time

>> No.9141715

>>9141540
Honestly, I'd expect them to come with a stripped down version of whatever incomplete messed up romset was available on some crummy chinese bbs from 20 years ago. With flash carts you don't have the same limits and romhacks alone would be worth the difference.

I remember GBA flash carts used to be dirt cheap, but admittedly that was a long time ago now.

>> No.9141737

i like flashcarts so that if some prototype is released or a cool new game gets made i can play it on real hardware

>> No.9141764

>>9141715
They used to be, they aren't any more. None of the old school flashcarts are in production. Your choices are only EZ Flash and Everdrive now.

Also Supercard. Don't even think about getting a Supercard.

>> No.9142308

>>9141540
Chink multigame carts have reliability issues and will randomly delete your saves.

>> No.9142361

>>9141615
>These are more commonly called reproduction cartridges or bootlegs.
This. I still use my old ReproductionCartridgesOrBootlegsAdvance, ReproductionartridgesOrBootlegs2Advance and EZ-ReproductionCartridgesOrBootlegs devices.

>>9141674
Depends what you want to do. If you do actually want to make a bootleg or homebrew they're idea. There are also distinct advantages to that approach in some cases, ie unlocking content on DS games.

>> No.9142367

>>9142361
>There are also distinct advantages to that approach in some cases, ie unlocking content on DS games.
I actually didn't think of that. Thankfully there isn't too too many games that has bonuses like this

>> No.9142380

>>9142361
I had to mention them for completion's sake but most people think only of SD-based flashcarts when discussing flashcarts today.
I don't even know if they still make NOR flash-based carts, outside of bootlegs/repros.

>>9142367
There are workarounds for lots of those bonuses anyway. I'm sure you can import pokemon with save editing tools instead, and Megaman ZX has a romhack which builds the extra content in.

>> No.9142392
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>>9141540
Flash Cart: You know what you're buying.
You know what Rom you're playing.
You know what features your cartridge has.
You know who manufactured the cartridge and can probably tell what revision it is.

MultiPak: You have no idea about any of that unless you know exactly what you're buying before you pay for it.

>> No.9142435

I bought a SNES 68 in 1 multicart on a whim the other day from a pawn shop and it worked fine except for Mega Man 7 where it skips and drops inputs randomly.

>> No.9143640

>>9141540
on handhelds, probably battery usage

>> No.9143690

>>9141540
They're all flashcarts. The difference being what is used to hold the game ROM and how convenient it is to swap them out.
Also you should keep in mind that multi-carts are usually made to be cheap as shit, so they might not be made within the system's specifications (the most common being the part that gets inserted into the cartridge slot is ever slightly too thick, and will fuck it up down the line) or not actually be able to support particular games.

>> No.9143947

>>9142367
Most people only care about teh pokemans, and as >>9142380 there are workarounds. Why it's a good reason to keep some old style flash carts around. It's a quick and easy way to accurately emulate nearly any cart and avoid the work involved in workarounds.

>>9142380
I understand your purpose and phrasing. Just wanted to have a bit of fun with the names based on that.
As for who still makes what, that's a big question as a lot of production is cock blocked by chip shortages. But yes, there are still people making old school GBA flash carts. The main use is undoubtably bootlegs. And that's probably the best way to get an old school flash cart for a single game. The fleamarkets of Asia are no longer buckets of F2As selling for a buck. A modern clone for tree fiddy is a damn good deal.

>> No.9143963

>>9143947
One of the nice things about the EZ Flash Omega DE is that it can be used like that with Mode B. The best part is that it'll support all the different save types.

>> No.9145391

>>9141764
>>9141715
>They used to be, they aren't any more.
How much do GBA flashcarts go for this day? Saw one yesterday for 40 quid. Is that a good deal?

>> No.9145690

>>9145391
What the fuck is a squid got to do with video games?
And you gotta tell us the specific model of flash cart, there's different ones, fake stuff to watch out for, etc.

>> No.9146048

>>9143963
EZ was making flash carts when jesus krikzz was still wetting the bed. Long before he reverse engineered ancient Chinese technology to become a bandwagoner deity. Of course they can produce superior devices at a fraction of the cost.

>> No.9146327

>>9145391
That depends entirely on which cart it is.

>>9146048
Too bad their GBC cart sucks balls and has no support.

>> No.9146624

>>9146327
>chinkshit
>support
lamooo!
I have some modern GB EZ thing. It had some problems out of the box but I updated the firmware, maybe cfw, and haven't had any problems since.

>> No.9146627

>>9146624
EZ's GBA carts have always been very well supported. The Jr sucks because it's buggy and half baked despite coming from an otherwise reputable brand.