/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
Deadline extended, see picture
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/512linesvr

400 MINUTES OF /vr/
Idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/400minvr

=== NEWS ===
[07-11]
Solar Struggle is released on idgames.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/megawads/sstruggle

[07-08] New Quake hub for mods and things
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php

[07-07] Black Mesa Demake demo for HL1
https://www.moddb.com/mods/bm-classic/news/black-mesa-classic-we-got-hostiles-demo-is-out

[07-05] New Serious Sam patch
https://dreamycecil.itch.io/sam-exe-patch

[07-05] Anon shares his punch sprite fix for Doom
https://files.catbox.moe/ptqfk2.zip

[07-01] vkquake 1.20.1 released
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.20.1

[07-01] Sonic Mayhem is releasing a vinyl

[07-01] DBP49 is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130049

[07-01] Quake 4 hinted to have a remaster
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2022/06/30/join-the-quake-4-xbox-insider-preview/

[07-01] Sonic Mayhem Is teasing a Quake 2 Announcement
https://twitter.com/quakecomposer/status/1542567262338527232

[06-30] vkquake 1.20.0 released
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.20.0

[06-27] GZDoom 4.8.1 is out, reintroducing the console scaling feature and fixing some bugs
https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/releases/latest

[06-27] Nugget-Doom released, adding a bunch of QoL/casual features on top of Woof! 10.0.3
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/latest

[06-26] Demon Throne 3.0 is out
https://www.moddb.com/games/wgrealms-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VevjVqsgBII

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=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
Deadline extended, see picture
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/512linesvr

400 MINUTES OF /vr/
Idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/400minvr

=== NEWS ===
[07-11] Solar Struggle is released on idgames.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/megawads/sstruggle

[07-08] New Quake hub for mods and things
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php

[07-07] Black Mesa Demake demo for HL1
https://www.moddb.com/mods/bm-classic/news/black-mesa-classic-we-got-hostiles-demo-is-out

[07-05] New Serious Sam patch
https://dreamycecil.itch.io/sam-exe-patch

[07-05] Anon shares his punch sprite fix for Doom
https://files.catbox.moe/ptqfk2.zip

[07-01] vkquake 1.20.1 released
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.20.1

[07-01] Sonic Mayhem is releasing a vinyl

[07-01] DBP49 is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130049

[07-01] Quake 4 hinted to have a remaster
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2022/06/30/join-the-quake-4-xbox-insider-preview/

[07-01] Sonic Mayhem Is teasing a Quake 2 Announcement
https://twitter.com/quakecomposer/status/1542567262338527232

[06-30] vkquake 1.20.0 released
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.20.0

[06-27] GZDoom 4.8.1 is out, reintroducing the console scaling feature and fixing some bugs
https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/releases/latest

[06-27] Nugget-Doom released, adding a bunch of QoL/casual features on top of Woof! 10.0.3
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/latest

[06-26] Demon Throne 3.0 is out
https://www.moddb.com/games/wgrealms-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VevjVqsgBII

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Show me cool weapons

>>9083038
>probably

>>9083038
>looking great try stuff

>>9083038
>literally lmao design
>however blood rules
>kegan decided removed section
What section did he remove?

>>9083121
hot demon sex

>>9083121
Samson.

from last thread

I want to create Drunk effects in my mod. I have several questions and none of them are "how to do this" I want to really sit down and learn scripting instead of just patching shit together by looking at other mods which is what I've done in the past.

1.Should I use Zscript or ACS? Every bit of conventional wisdom seems to suggest creating a custom powerup with Zscript, but since Zscript is not compiled doesn't that make it slower? I'm more familiar with Zscript as I've built a few custom weapons, enemies and props with it

2.What's a good way to set up a working dev environment to develop and test shit like this? So far I've been using slade for everything but I'm probably going to migrate to using a source folder open in VSCode, having a command line command to bounce everything to a PK3 then test my code, but what about debugging? GZDooms console is pretty limited from what I've read in the docs. I'm interested in how people here set up their basic dev environment.

>>9083151
When you stop posting basedjaks you'll get a proper answer.

>>9083038
protons cometh

>>9083038
>hd general
Well, it's not wrong.

>>9083158
.t

>>9083038
> bitch adding map01 added gameplay
well romero did mention you should make the first map last to make it fucking good so I guess that tracks

>>9082921
well it doesnt really have any gameplay yet

I'm thinking about how to render enemies. Using hardware sprites would be nice, but you have a hard limit of 80, and you have clipping to deal with. I know bloodshot uses sprites for the enemies though, so it's doable.

Once I have enemies in, there'll be some gameplay. Then I'll switch back to fixing the map editor and make some big maps.

>>9083151
when you say slower do you mean like it(the mod) runs noticably slower?
I don't see how it would significantly matter unless you're making a big/intensive mod.
Like I would personally just pick whichever looks easiest to develop then decide if it's worth using the other to get more "speed" if necessary

>>9083142

I made a couple more webms since vp9 support was recently added.

>>9083354

>>9083354
>>9083356
Nice performances. Kudos.

>>9083142
You know, I WAS going to get really belligerent with you. But technically, you're right. Seeing as I'm breaking the update into two parts, Samson won't be coming in the first half.
With that said, I'm still gonna kick your ass.

>>9082648
I never understand the motivations of guys on here that attach images completely unrelated to anything going on.
>>9082634
Maybe you just have a different style than Id did. Nothing wrong with that.

>>9083151
>but since Zscript is not compiled doesn't that make it slower
It's compiled at run-time.

>>9083428

Can I make good maps if I'm not a good player? Most maps are balanced for pistol start and UV, what if I just suck at that difficulty level? I should be able to beat my own maps without savescumming shouldn't I?

>>9083497
You could get someone else to test your maps for you, but it's much easier to iterate on design if you can beat your own map.

>>9083497
>I should be able to beat my own maps without savescumming shouldn't I?
Doom players have a pretty high tolerance for bullshit, so I wouldn't sweat savescumming your own map too much. There's also nothing wrong with making maps that cater to lesser-skilled players. Not everything needs to be Sunder or Sunlust.

>>9083521
This desu. Make'em different flavors of spicy. From Gringo Mild to Explosive Brown Salsa Fiesta!

>>9083497
personally i prefer doomcute maps nowadays or maps with level-design gimmicks rather than ribbiks style cock and ball torture wads

>Now that's what I call MIDI is ZDoom only
>Jimmy's Jukebox is ZDoom only
Are there non-zdoom similar music packs? Do you guys use these?

>>9083497
I'm starting to think that I should actually make Medium difficulty maps just barely beatable for me, then make UV purposefully harder than I can handle myself.

>>9083521
>There's also nothing wrong with making maps that cater to lesser-skilled players. Not everything needs to be Sunder or Sunlust.
There's also nothing forcing people to do full megawads worth of maps, often shit starts to go downhill quality-wise because people feel obligated to put out that many maps.

>>9083592
Most mappers expect people to normally play HMP anyways. The whole "UV or bust" shit is such a terrible myth/meme when it comes to pwads

>>9083584
Put 32 midis in a .wad and use IDMUS##?

To the anon in the previous thread who was asking about polish mappers and if I'm willing to participate, why not, but that's after 94 Protons are done for sure.

https://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=28943&page=3
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/9953-evil-people-tc-for-duke3d-13/
https://forums.transfusion-game.com/viewtopic.php?t=1120&start=15

There is a long lost Duke 3D TC called 'Evil People' that seems to be really advanced for the time according to what I can gather of if, does anyone here know of it?/know if it has ever been found or mislabeled and mistakenly bundled with other mods anywhere?

>>9081640
I might be able to have 100 minutes up sometime next month. I've been meaning to get back to adding them, just been busy with work and have been using most of my free time for mapping stuff.

>>9083497
It depends. Are you having trouble with single viles? Then you should maybe git guder. Can't punchout revs or two-shot dance cyberdemons? Fuck 'em, do your thing.
If someone complains your map is too easy and that you should put an additional thousand revenants in there, tell them to go fuck themselves.
I generally make my maps just hard enough so *I* can just beat them on UV. If anyone finds them too easy, it's their problem. I prefer comfy and explorative maps to nonstop carnage anyway.
Don't let yourself get pushed into the enemy count = quality direction. And to come back to my first point, even IF you're having trouble with viles - just don't put them in your map. Doom 1 had no viles, or revenants, or the ssg for that matter and still had engaging levels.

>>9083657
I'm not Polish, but I endorse these nationality based community projects.

>>9083151
Apart from you being a dumb basedjak poster, zscript gives you finer actor control. ACS is good for setting up level stuff, but it reaches its limits pretty quickly

>>9080426
hold the fuck up
hold the FUCKING phone
does kegan know that his laser is cyan

Is there a list of all the /vr/ projects?

>>9083814
Have you read the OP? It's there.

is there a game with a powerup that gives you infinite ammo for a limited time?

>>9083826
shit

>>9083805
Yes. I actually like the color, even if I sometimes have issues recognizing it.

What are some gameplay mods to fuck around with in Zandronum for 2 people? I already have Samsara, and DRLA on mind.

>playing Doom on Ultraviolence
>die in bullshit ambushes halfway through a level
>get annoyed and quit
Should I save mid-level, or just lower the difficulty? Are saves cheating?

>>9083958
Constantly quicksave. The devs intended you to use them; they aren't cheats.

>>9083121
The fun one.

>>9083958
It's fine to save mid-level. If it's still too hard for you even with saving then you can bump down the difficulty.

>>9083991
Which one would that be?

What mod has the most beautiful buildings you've seen?

>>9083015
Might be the thread to ask, can somebody explain to me what the difficulty settings in Ashes actually do?

Arcade - seems like closer to classic Doom UV, plenty of ammo but some (?) enemies are more spongy (I assume this is applied where it makes sense, so stuff like basic raiders are still relatively light on HP, but some big bad mutants can take a beating).

Survival - less ammo, less HP for everything. How crippling is lack of ammo? Are there still bosses or monsters that require a lot of damage to take down.

Apocalypse - played it a bit, seems like you die in a couple of melee hits. Not sure how crippling that would be on the long run.

Also from what I understand the maps are really big, I shouldn't aim to do them without saving mid-level, correct?

>>9084016
Arcade is UV but Aggressiveness is raised. No other changes.

Survival, enemy health is 75% of normal, half ammo, you take double damage. I haven't played, so I can't speak on ammo.

Apocalypse, normal health, normal ammo, you take double damage, Aggressiveness is raised.

I wouldn't avoid saving.

>>9084074
Huh. Survival sounds harder than Apocalypse, even if the placement of them suggests otherwise.

>>9083584
this one used to be my favorite until i found Now that's what I call MIDI

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/72208-doom-2-real-metal-music-mod/

so is ashes the best thing we have to a fallout wad?

>>9083885
Wrath of Chronos if you want Co-op RPG madness and DRLA isn't cutting it. Has like 5 classes, comes with its own enemy pack and works in doom and heretic, not just hexen.
Armed Recruit/Veteran if tossing read: blowing yourself up with grenades and sharing healthkits and spare armor is your thing.
Be sure to enable item dropping, though, not weapon dropping.
There was a CoD 4 MW mod that let you revive teammates or set respawn points with certain perks and random enemies that also used perks from that game but I haven't seen it in a decade or so I forgot what it was called.
You can't go wrong with Alpha/Delta + Armageddon Invasion for a mapset.
Play GMOTA coop. Just do it. Enable friendly fire for the definition of why axes are skill.

On that note, consider also Shotgun Frenzy and/or Stronghold. Neither of them accept weapon packs to be added ontop unless you edit them to do so but they're great on their own regardless.
Stronghold is fucking huge and although it was originally designed for single player, it still plays great in coop. Make sure you got an entire evening open if you want to get through probably half of it.
Shotgun frenzy is a bit more arcadey, and has only like 9 maps but the waves are massive, weapon upgrades get out of control, specially Shotgun and Commando weapon packs and you can pilot mechs in the harder maps if you're both gud enough. Just don't sit in the commander chair if you're just 2 players, the basebuilding maps were designed for 4 to 16+ players or so.

>>9084101
>Play GMOTA coop. Just do it. Enable friendly fire for the definition of why axes are skill.
Jesus christ, how horrifying. With the current public build you'd be oneshotting one another all the time.

Should I put rad suits on my damaging floor if there's no reason to actually go there?

>>9084105
That's what makes it !!FUN!!

>>9084124
maybe you should give a reason to go there?
>play a game, any game
>there's a damaging floor
>spend time running around there
>don't even have fun but still don't want to miss content

>>9084124
No unless you expect someone to fall into your funpit and you don't want them to die before they figure out how to get out.

stupid idiot brain

>>9083023
>[07-08] New Quake hub for mods and things
>https://www.slipseer.com/index.php
Looks like Fairweather is the site admin. What was the controversy with this guy again?

>>9084141
>second flesh applicator
kinky

>>9083497
just make maps you enjoy to play, i can guarantee others will have similar skill levels.

youtube/twitch mostly have a difficulty fetish but it's okay to not fit that.

there are also wad authors that can hardly play their own maps even with saves, including high profile ones, but it always seems weird to me.

i've asked before but i'll ask again: does anyone do all their mapping on linux? "native" UDB (mono) was supremely janky for me, but I don't feel like installing and configuring wine. I guess it's the way to go, however. I know there's "eureka", but it's shitty compared to UDB, and of course there are all the other tools (whacked, slade, etc.)

oh well

>>9084225
Honestly the best option might be to just dualboot for mapping, I tried UDB and SLADE and both were very buggy. I haven't checked out Eureka or running UDB through Wine though.

>>9084229
thanks for letting me know. i instally wipe windows on all my machines, so i'll try wine before something more extreme like a full VM. thanks for letting me know, the other times i've gotten answers they were from people that haven't seriously tried.

luckily all our other tools work. i've had to send kraflab a fix for linux once but otherwise playing the game is fine.

>>9084141
>that aim sway delay highlighted by the lasersight
I’m very much not ready for that, gonna finish my Hellbound run and then I’ll consider updating.

>>9084253
Fairly sure that's caused by net delay, not the new system.

>>9084253
having to point aim because you're too fucked up to even hold your gun straight is cool though

>>9084294
what is the point of a laser sight in doom

>>9084303
That's because that mod is not doom.

>>9084303
pretty important to know where your buddies are and what they're shooting at in co-op, especially when explosives do this

>>9084308
point stands, guns are point n shoot in the engine without much deviation

>>9084323
if only you knew how powerful zscript really was
the red and orange dots here are the gun's actual physical position, no longer directly attached to my point of aim
the yellow line is the bullet firing from the gun in the direction it's currently pointed at rather than where i'm actually looking at the moment

>>9084331
are you drunk in game or something

>>9084336
no, i had to swing the mouse very fast to get it to lag that severely. it otherwise only really comes up when you're in especially bad shape, for instance in >>9084294 i still had reasonable control of my guns up until the point where i wasn't just extremely low on health, i'd also overexerted my stamina and was temporarily winded from it

>>9084331
So it's like Operation Flashpoint? Cool.

>>9084346
so there's gun sway?

>>9084331
>>9084318
I have an example of a really bad result to laser light delay in multi where I killed a teammate because I thought I was firing at enemy swinging my gun around in a very swift motion in a split second. It was pretty funny when I realized and went back to watch the replay clip.

>>9084294
I believe it, and it will look great once the sprites do a better job at matching up with the aim. I just want to get decent at all the stuff I’m currently juggling before throwing another chainsaw into it.

>>9084354
yes, also most guns rather than having arbitrary spread instead only have their shots thrown off by recoil and movement bobbing affecting the gun's position naturally

>>9084387
that looks disorienting as hell

>>9084391
Meant to be by design. You aren't an accurate shot when moving.

>>9084362
the laser (and now the normal sights too as of the latest commits) actually shows exactly where your shots will be going under latency, so that's what your eyes need to follow

>>9084391
you get used to it and then you can do badass action movie shit once you do

>>9084413
I see shit like that and go wow. My runs were trainwrecks, mercifully not as bad as the stuff I saw on youtube like that one dipshit who literally refused to use his medkit at all and wondered why he kept getting softlocked halfway through E1M1. Is it all really just forcing yourself to git gud or is there some trick to it?

>>9084413
that floating crosshair shit looks awful, at least have it be snapped to the gun

>>9084420
Having played on-n-off since 2016 or so. It's partway forcing yourself to learn the systems and gitting gud at it, partway having decent enough memory to remember mechanics and tricks given to you by the manual.
That clip you're replying to was made with an LMG, i'm not surprised at all by such result because that thing is basically just a smaller vulcanette.
Everything is possible and the game gives you all the tools to deal with every situation. Treat it as a puzzle sandbox, except with a coat of tactical flair and demons. It can be as hard or as easy as you make it to be for you, just make sure to bind your controls somewhere comfortable.
Once you realize Naturist isn't the hardest loadout to bring, you'll start to understand. Just don't play Rifleman over and over and you'll get it eventually.

>>9084420
It's mostly a matter of knowing how to prepare for and respond to situations, which is a combination of raw experience and knowing the game's myriad mechanics. With a group of soft targets like that, getting hits in at all is more important than killing each enemy individually - a wounded foe won't be ready to retaliate before I make another pass to finish them off. The only one who even got to shoot at me was the ZM jackboot in the back, and while he did hit me, I was wearing blue armor, which minimized the chance of penetration. When I hit the switch and all the babuins came out, I pressed myself against the wall so that they couldn't all swarm me at once. I fumbled my inputs and didn't respond as quickly as I could have, but it was a relatively low pressure situation, so I got away with it. It's a little bit of luck, a lot of managing factors to make my own luck. If you've played roguelikes (in the strict sense of games that are like Rogue), it's a very similar concept, translated to an FPS.

Has anybody made any killing floor wads?

>>9084413
I dunno man, the new sway feels a bit wack, and I can no longer oneshot enemies as easily as the last version, and it gets even worse when throwing in factors like moving and getting shot at
Maybe it's just something I'll have to grit my teeth through until I get used to it, like most things that get revamped

>>9084480
actually scratch that, I just downloaded the latest main and it seems he's changed it again

>>9084513
Yeah, the crosshair movement got drastically reduced a few days ago. Mod weapons are going to have to catch up individually, I've already done so for Peppergrinder at least.

A FUCKING CAT

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>>9084160
I'm guessing he misinterpreted MAP.

>>9084521
wot spritepack?

>>9084649
Kegan's Separated Arms

Why are you like this?

>>9084630
Love that map so much.

>>9084675
>1st one
true
>2nd one
ask Alf

>>9084675
>Half-Life
>fail
Wut

>>9084683
/v/ template threads should be a bannable offense regardless if he's right or not

This is the coolest weapon in any Doom game.

>>9084675
/v/ shitpostery simply leaking out onto /vr/

>>9082634
>>9083458
Can anyone recommend any Quake maps with a more realistic layout?

I am the Shadow Warrior!
How's this for kung-fu fighting you little chickenshit!
Ooh, better zip fly!

>>9083958
I usually start every mapset at UV saveless and continuous play rather than pistol start.
If the mapset is giving me trouble then I'll start saving (but not savescumming every encounter, just dropping a mid-level save occasionally when I get far into a level)
If I still somehow can't beat the map with at UV+saves, then I'll swallow my pride and drop to HMP.
If I want to replay the mapset, I'll start doing pistol start or UVMAX runs

>finally get a high refresh rate monitor
>play doom
this was not meant to be

>>9084752
>playing above 35 FPS
you did not play doom

Bunch of random references

>>9084692
This. One of the reasons why the only threads I really open on the board are this thread or genuine hardware threads like about a specific console or things like CRT monitors etc.
I thought the /v/ kids wouldn't bother with their disingeous and low effort bs on such a niche board or people into boomershit being so gullible as to fall for lazy troll threads.

But I'm pretty damn glad this thread mostly sniffs and boots out the /v/ scum.

>>9083521
>There's also nothing wrong with making maps that cater to lesser-skilled players
This.

>>9083497
>I should be able to beat my own maps without savescumming shouldn't I?
Depends on what you're aiming for. I would personally say that designing for saveless pistol start UV is NOT some agreed-upon standard. You could also try to start with easier maps and gradually push yourself out of you comfort zone as you become better and more confident to take on your levels without saves, pistol starting etc etc.

>>9084801
>agreed-upon standard
Literally no such thing in Doom mapmaking.

>>9084739
I use "Everybody dead, I like that" in every game I play after clearing a particularly difficult room.

>>9084801
Those are some gross fucking eyebrows jesus.

>>9084813
For me, personally, it's
>I like nuculah weapons
any time I get or use a bomb. Especially in shmups.

>>9084806
That was kind of what I was getting at.
I suppose if one was worried about making their map friendly for pistol starts etc, take it into account by replacing some ammo pickups with the gun etc, or keeping the amount of monsters to manageable levels etc etc.

But there's such a wide range of skill levels and styles of DOOM mapping that no one should feel discouraged at trying their hand at mapmaking.

>>9083023
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128420-doom-refired-a-doom-ii-community-project-demo-out/
doom refired, which is like a fanmade follow up to d2 with some new enemies and a heaven chapter
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=70549 update to a drla mod
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130209-guillotine/ cutmanmike's first vanilla map
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOTbGubeAnw 43 minutes of a slayer's testaments update, there's the hell guard in there
https://twitter.com/CardboardMarty/status/1545281298389925890 wolfenstein thing for gzdoom with voice acting, this is an impression of how bj sounded in tno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYdTa9UXXj0 hordamex, a horde thing for odamex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG-Q5zZPTH0 a short tutorial for modern titlepics
https://darsycho.itch.io/improvisation a new mod by darsycho

OG Wang is the funniest in my opinion just because of the delivery and quantity of lines.
Duke and Caleb are awesome but for some reason Wang is dead perfect.
Some lines in redneck rampage are also funny.
Shelly can go fuck off a cliff I dont care.

>OG Wang is the funniest in my opinion just because of the delivery and quantity of lines.
Sadly amounts to little since no one else gives a shit about SW since it has less of a map scene than Duke. It was instead cursed to be a reboot.

>>9084806
This, people don't even follow stuff like the Heretic key order when mapping for that.

>>9084915
Something tells me even Redneck Rampage has a bigger mapping scene.

>>9084160
>What was the controversy with this guy again?
Social climbing degenerate who latched onto Dumptruck's nu-mapper community and invited in numerous other freaks in an effort to seize control for himself. He lead the charge to oust Dumptruck over a literally nothing and has instigated several efforts to sabotage Quaddicted - including the the incident a year ago that resulted in comments getting fucked across the site.
Also his maps blow ass.

>>9084923
>He lead the charge to oust Dumptruck over a literally nothing
He's gone?

>>9084915
SW is the weakest Build game, unfortunately.

>>9084920
More fun insult to injury, and even then I’ve seen people just extracting RR’s textures to use them for Duke maps.

>>9084930
>SW is the weakest Build game, unfortunately.
Not when most of the 15 or so build games are shovelware, especially some of the Capstone ones.

>>9084930
>He's gone?
He self-ejected from the Quake mapping dicksword and had a crying session on Twitter after (correctly) enforcing a no politics rule on someone whining about Ukraine and getting dogpiled by Fairweather's goons. Weather he has come back in some capacity since then (other than working on Progs Dump 3) I do not know.

He brought it on himself really, but lesser of two retards and whatnot...

>>9084949
>especially some of the Capstone ones.
Calling those "games" is a stretch

>>9084930
>SW is the weakest Build game, unfortunately.
RR and Powerslave are better?

>>9084949
I was going to say this, you’re right. But I can sympathize with it being considered the “weakest” out of the original three.

>>9084960
Also don't forget about NAM and WWII GI. There's no way SW is the worst Build game. You could argue it's the worst in the Build holy trinity, but not the overall worst game on the Build engine

>>9084915
Shadow Warrior is great fun, but it's textures are kind of hard to use if you're not making specifically asia themed stuff.

>>9084934
Is extracting things like textures, weapons, enemies etc from RR / SW to use with mapster 32 easy ? Or do you have to jump through a lot of hassle?

>>9084967
>Is extracting things like textures, weapons, enemies etc from RR / SW to use with mapster 32 easy ? Or do you have to jump through a lot of hassle?
Unfortunately, I did not get that far into using mapster to be able tell you. I’m only aware of maps like Dukeneck and when I recognize them in other custom maps.

>>9084952
>Enforces rules
>Oh no the freaks who make everything political hate me
What did he expect to happen letting in crazies like that anyway? We've seen it a hundred times over now, you let one in the fucker wrenches the door open for the rest and it's an invasion.

>>9084967
build modding/mapping is generally a hassle which is why Ion Fury is impressive to me

I respect the opinion of people saying SW is the lesser of the build trio.

But maybe its because I played it with all the good shit in raze and I still love the duke and Blood.

I love the melee and guns in SW, and its fluid enough, also for the time. It has some quality map making. A bit cramped but very non linear.

But yeah old wang just feels funny to me. There should be more old men " i dont give a fuck anymore" attitude in videogames.

Are you able to play Heretic in coop?

>>9084960
Powerslave is one of the best, just not for the same reasons as the other games. Despite being Build, it's more in line with Doom 2 and Quake's abstract, gameplay-first level design and tighter-designed arsenals and bestiaries. Many aspects of the game make it clear that they played its contemporaries and understood how to improve on them. Unfortunately the original game suffered horrible technical issues and the console version gets more attention because it makes you play the same levels over and over which is apparently a good thing.

>>9084984
It’s the weakest of the three for me only by some hairs. The new “beyond shareware” enemy additions aren’t as interesting as what Duke adds and fighting those ninjas isn’t as fun as fighting cultists. Gameplay is still crazy and hectic and fun, probably nuttier than the previous two, and the melee options remain pretty viable throughout. It also gets credit for its vehicle segments that are fun and (more importantly) optional, and for coming up with the idea for the rail gun.

>>9085004
Rail gun has wonky detection at least in raze. But yeah its a hair breadth below the other two. Which have issues so I love them 3 equally.

Which is strange since I only managed to play duke back in the day. My childhood sweethearts are shit like Quake 1 and Doom and later Thief.

Only played Blood like 5 years ago, and recently SW.

>>9084984
>But yeah old wang just feels funny to me. There should be more old men " i dont give a fuck anymore" attitude in videogames.
The bad thing about new wang is that they took that away from him in favour of making him a young uninsteresting guy

>>9085015
I just dont think about the new games at all. There is nothing to think much like new doom.

>>9085013
>Rail gun has wonky detection at least in raze
I don’t care too much for it in the game, I just like giving it credit for the idea of it. It’s an amazing gun in Quake 2.
>>9085002
>and the console version gets more attention because it makes you play the same levels over and over which is apparently a good thing.
Fake “””Metroidvania-like””” fags like to place that level with alternate exits on a pedestal. I otherwise played through Powerslave Exhumed and had a great time, never played the original console versions and only the first hour of the build version before I was bored.

>>9084991
Yes, every idtech1 game has multiplayer implemented in it, except Strife.

>>9085026
but Strife is also coopable via other means
Hooray for options

>>9085026
Great, thanks anon.
>>9085034
That's also great, I love Strife.

>>9084675
I hate these /v/ template threads
They are so vague that it is clear they don't want to talk, but they want people talking on a thread they made

best way to play hacx 1.0 on source ports?

>>9085015
TFW I had one of the developers of that straight up tell me original Wang was racist and they wouldn't do anything that might offend anybody.

Still had gay jokes in the fortune cookies in nuSW but I guess that's fine to them.

>>9084630

>>9085132
It baffles me that people say true Wang is racist because he has an accent

So while trying to add dynamic lights to IEDs (because I thought it was cool if you could see them blink in the darkness), for checking what sprites come where I replaced one IED frame with the HEAD A sprite.
This is the result, which had me actually lol and now I am thinking about making caco grenades.

>>9085190
That’s just fucking retards screaming, pay them no mind. It was how he acted towards women and the “faggot rabbit” line that’s at all questionable, and the biggest issues - a guy pretending to be asian and finding ‘fortune cookies’ all over Japan despite being from American chinese food - were carried right into the 2013 reboot and no one cared, so whatever.

>>9085213
and he ate a guy's eyeball with chopstick
But Wang is a spoof on kung fu music, not an accurate depiction of asian culture
Like Duke Nukem is not an accurate depiction of LA

>>9085218
>kung fu movies*

>>9083015
anyone tried Netduke32?

>>9085218
Yes but that’s just more to the point that it’s screaming retards, and >>9085190 shouldn’t get their panties in a twist over it so they don’t become a bussy faggot themselves.

>>9085205
>caco IEDs
They better explode with lightning.

>>9085227
I've done it. It worked out pretty decently. Will do more in the future too.

recommend good thief 2 FMs please

>>9085306
Its in the op anon.

Also i recommend Chalice of Souls. Thief fan missions are incredible.

Im going to play half-life 1, should I play normal or hard for my first playtrhough. I play a lot of doom wads on ultraviolence.

Quake is not a good game even by the standars if its day. I am not memeing, this is sincere opinion i have.

>>9085372
Play it on normal. Half Life on hard relies more on knowledge of the levels and managing resources accordingly more than raw skill - and even then there's a lot of bullshit between RNG AI behavior and damage sponges. Going in blind on hard will just be extremely frustrating.

making a replacement derp sprite from scratch

>512 Lines - Underblown Budget
Fun little map, great interconnectivity, nice and comfy start into the wad.

>512 Lines - Deck 512
Damn right after the comfy start it's redline right away. Nice UT reference, fun setup, lots of managing your flanks. The red key ambush kicked my ass big time because I only had shotgun ammo left at that point and of fucking course those assholes always went into different direction to DP me and yeet me through the whole level. Also, the tracks of the keypad gates are not unpegged.

>512 Lines - BFG Multiplication
Really liked this map too. The BFG macguffin was cool and the tradeoff at the end too, although I must admit I died there once because I just ran into the room and got instantly gangbanged from all sides before I could even shoot once.

>>9085372
I'll cast my vote for normal. Familiarize yourself with the game and give yourself and excuse to replay the game on a higher diff

>>9085419
What don't you like about the old one?

>>9085465
There's nothing I particularly dislike about the stock derp, I just felt like making a more homemade-looking variant.
I start with an unloaded derp in my scavenger loadout, and I thought it would be cool if it looked like my character put it together himself.

What are some good copper quake maps? I need more

>>9085419
Harkening back to that short era a decade ago where games felt the need to have RC car sections. Would make for a funny DERP variant that's much faster but requires manual control.

Making more progress with map3 of my wad
Red area is the bit I'm currently working on. Secret stuff and ammo/health drops to finish up.
Blue areas aren't finished and are next to do.
I kind of want to/need to finish all other areas first because it's a pain to stop detailing an area because I remembered I need to balance an earlier area.

Still (very slowly) working on this zeppelin. Should I keep the armor plates brown, or make them grey to contrast with the techbase trim? Also, do the armor and fin textures tile too harshly? I'm not sure how to feel about them.

>>9085419
How does it aim the gun?

>>9085579
The armor seems fine but yeah that texture on the fins makes it look quilted.

>>9085582
Good question.
I'll try to make some tiny hydraulics visible on some of the other angles.

>stop at map10
Yep, this is the greatest wad of all time

>>9085478
I see, cute idea.

Does anybody happen to know where I could get my hands on somepump-action shotgun sprites modeled after something like an extended mag Ithaca 37? The most important thing here is the pump handle - round with grooves; if necessary I could frankensprite the extended mag myself.
The closest thing I found was the Duke 3D one, but it has a vented barrel shroud, is completely black and also angled, so of not much use to me, sadly.
Just googling it I get a million results and I don't want to dig through each and every single mod, so maybe someone here knows right away.

>>9085673
I had this in my HDest resprite folder from before I decided on what to do with the Hunter. Though, I might have kept it around afterwards with intent to frankensprite a custom greely.

>>9085686
shiet, that's exactly what I was looking for, thanks anon.

>>9084630
What's his name?

>>9085419
I thought that was for SRB2 Kart for a second.

>>9085706
Arti

>>9085718

Map03 of 512 linedefs of /vr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4MK5XqvmFU

>>9084791
Yup, save icon is a reference alright

>>9085753
Just did this myself, fucking shit myself when I got to the end, they were so loud

>>9085757
>save icon

>>9084967
There are tools to move around textures/sprites. Not any harder than using Slade to add textures to a Doom wad.

>>9085013
The railgun shoots off-center from the crosshair.

>>9085373
yeah you already told us in your bait thread

>>9083015
How did I not know about this
https://www.moddb.com/mods/500-milliliters-of-vr/downloads/500-milliliters-of-vr
What else you guys did with Blood?
btw what are the best Blood maps?

>>9085930
One fucking weird icon I must say, what does this black cube even represent? Much possibly a product from Beat generation boomers, they were all irredeemable druggies as I learned from movies.

>>9085419

I'm no Hideous Destructor buff but pic related got me wondering how practical would a dismemberment addon be on top of the existing aggravated damage system. Would having your limbs be blown off and finding ways to recover, replace, or regrow them make the healing system needlessly complicated when aggravated damage already exists or does it add more depth to healing not seen before?

>>9085961
>500ml of vr
This set fucking rules. Good looks, gameplay, different music that's oddly appropriate.
Besides Death Wish, you can then try Eviction and Fleshed Out.

>>9086018
>get an arm blown off but somehow heal enough to stop bleeding
>can't use two-handed guns anymore

This might sound cool to some people but no thank you. Not unless I can shove an imp arm onto my stump and throw fireballs.

>>9086018
>finding ways to recover, replace, or regrow them
>via cybernetics and other augments as well
so in a way HiDeus[/spoiler] DExtructor

>>9086070
>fucked it
aw maaan

>>9086018
i'd like that kind of anatomical zone damage if it (also) applies to enemies
>blow a zombie's arms off and he still tries to bite you
>saw a knight/baron's arms off and he charges like a sirian werebull

>>9086070
A cybernetic limb that you could find in backpacks would be one method to get a limb back and might have better aim stability or movement than an organic limb, though setting it in would cause a lot of pain and you have to replace it with another cybernetic limb if that ever gets badly damaged.
Another longer method would have to be setting the dismembered limb back onto your bloodied stump and injecting second blood to stitch the tissues and muscle back into place. It would take much longer for it to set back in than a cybernetic limb and you may not have as good stability with the limb while the bone is still mending together.
Blue magic would straight up regrow your limbs back if you have enough of it.
>>9086063
Using demon arms and legs as replacements might sound cool. They could give you the abilities as the respective demon and may even be better than regular human limbs, but there would be a chance the limb would refuse your body and start attacking you and you have to strike it back to make them stop.

Thy ass is grass, and I hath brought my mowing scythe.

>>9086101
Possessed limbs would be the last resort choice, because they'd slowly infect you and it'd be the same as dying when it happens.

>>9084630
any doom wads that let you have a pet cat?

>>9085753
This was one of my favorite maps I've played from /vr/.
But I'm only like 5 maps into 512 atm. Haven't had a lot of time. Haven't beaten 400 yet either actually.

>>9086018
That sounds like it'd be ridiculously complex, even for HD, and would go way beyond the scope of what the mod tries to achieve. Would probably involve a fuckton of spritework too, especially if you're extending dismemberment to enemies. Might just be easier to make some sort of android class addon, that offers bonuses over a human but requires different methods of repair.

>>9086195
La Tailor Girl has cat roombas.

>>9086261
Does it have cat boobas?

>>9085510
Go to quaddicted and sort by rating

>>9086268
That's Space Cats Saga.

>>9086268
If you upgrade the maid outfit, yes.

>>9086268
show me

>>9086167
your countenance, your posterior -- the distinction is naught

Wannabe modder here, is it possible to make custom interfaces in Doom? Like, stepping on a button that opens an interactive window or whatever.

>>9086673
Possible? yes technically.
only for zdoom derivate sourports however.

>>9086674
>only for zdoom derivate sourports however.
Including ZDoom itself? Would I need to modify the engine directly to be able to do it or can it be done via scripting?

>>9086673
if you mean doom 3 style interactive screens, not sure if that's possible. but a simple strife-style dialogue interaction is probably simple enough to figure out.

>>9086683
I'd like to try something more intricate than that.

>>9086679
yeah it can be done in zdoom via Sbarinfo, and if you want message pop ups you want to use acs for it.

>>9083023
94 Protons Of /vr/ - The Anchor Post
Extended deadline! From July 10th to August 18th

MegaUpload: https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA
>Proton Pack 1.9 (main assets)
>PROTDECO12 (patch for testing your levels in GzDoom)
>94SplatDefault, 94SplatNC-HUD
>A collection of MIDIs for mappers to use.
Please stake a claim on a MIDI you've settled on so that we don't get doubles, also, you are not restricted to the MIDIs in the folder, feel free to use one you sourced/made yourself.
If the assets update, I'll reply to this post stating so.

Slots:
>E1 Boss Level, x2 Paratamizers as a finale: Unclaimed
>E2 Boss Level: Claimed
>Hunted clone: Claimed
>Hunted clone 2, if it's different enough from the first one: Unclaimed
>Optional Dead Simple clone: Unclaimed
>Large city battle level akin to Odyssey Of Noises: Unclaimed

Minimum Goal: 15 Maps Total
Current Submissions: 7 Maps
Submissions In Progress: ?

To Do:
>probably alter Status Bar digits so they actually fit
>touch up Status Bar
>M_DOOM (something styled after Plutonium in the periodic table)
>Interpics (optionally one per episode)
>E2 Boss
>E3 Boss
>Chainsaw
>Fist
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma
>BFG9000

Reply to this post with submissions or questions.

Lowered the volume on some sounds because apparently they were too loud. Also did some minor sprite touchups.
Played around with a few alternatives for the subgun 'stop' sound for the Decorate version, but couldn't come up with anything I liked, so it stays in for now.

>>9085673
If it's for a project, you can use the one from 94 Protons after we've put it on iDGames. If you just want a skin for playing HD or whatever just go and grab it now.

>>9085673
I have a 3d model of one somewhere I made exactly for the purpose of doom spriting, If I find it later I'll send you some anon. You need to add the hands yourself though.

Whoever thought of putting in the lowering platforms at the exit of Tricks and Traps will get raped by a cacodemon in hell.

Is there a cheat that gives all guns but no armor?

Heretic + Hexen > Doom + Doom 2

Hexen 2 > *

>>9086787
you can type "give weapons" in the console in gzdoom

>>9086791
Thanks m8

>>9086731
https://files.catbox.moe/9iu248.zip
New version of Acid Vats, making it a little less mean.

>>9086301
Adorable.

Is it just me or do I only need to make a sky transfer linedef with tag 0 to make it work everywhere, regardless of where I'm standing/looking? In DSDA-Doom at least.
When I look at Ancient Aliens maps for example I see 100+ individual sky transfer linedefs for every possible tag in the map.

>>9086838
You need to tag every tag that has open sky. You may get away with not tagging sectors that don't touch solid ceiling or onsided linedef but not sure.

>>9085551
HERP and DERP variants as an addon would be rad
>RC car DERP that’s faster but harder to control. Can jump and drift.
>Strife Stalker-styled DERP that can crawl along walls and ceilings but will not act on its own, has to be remote controlled.
>Tesla Coil HERP that will zap and burn any enemies that enter its effective radius, but is helpless against long range threats and goes through batteries fairly quickly.
>SMG HERP that’s small and light with an omnidirectional FoV. Can be thrown onto walls and ceilings like Perfect Dark’s Laptop Gun.
>Super rare android HERP/DERP hybrid that acts like a lite version of Ace’s followers. Has ZM66 built into one of its arms, and another normal arm to handle objects, open doors, reload and clear jams, etc. Has a Follow mode in addition to the other 3 DERP modes where it will do its best to follow and protect you. While inactive it folds in on itself, allowing it to be carried like a Backpack.

>>9085372
Definitely hard. I think they fixed the unintentionally broken SMG accuracy, so it's useful now.

>how to ensure your grades will never be taken seriously again

>>9084765
G-sync allows you to play Doom like it was intended.

>>9085372
>>9086989
There was also some health differences between the Steam and the version that’s linked up in this thread, things were dying more easily on Hard through the Steam release.

>>9086856
What no cleaning DERP thats just a roomba with a knife duct taped on? It doesn't even really hunt, it just goes around bouncing off walls and irritating demons by stabbing them in the ankles when it runs into them.

>>9087035
Does HD even have knives?

>>9086993
I completely stopped paying attention to the reviews after the Memento Mori one, I think he was far too harsh on it.

Is there no way to switch ENDOOM to windowed mode in GZDoom anymore?

>>9086993
>>9087047
Makes sense, considering he took his moniker from the biggest asshat in music reviews

>>9087035
>>9087043
You could give it a bunch of stimpacks so that when it bumps into enemies it deliberately overdoses them and causes them to die of a heart attack. You could also take control of it and use it to stim allies safely.

>>9087003
That's odd, I don't recall there being any difference in damage, apart from a quirk with the crowbar.

Also, HD models have different hitboxes, and they suck.

>>9086993
People like him stubbornly going straight on UV and then getting face-fucked, is why Ribbiks made Magnolia HMP only (unless you're actually good and have a UV version of the wad). That insistence on playing UV led to certain wads/levels getting unfairly ranked from sheer asshurt.

>>9087082
>That's odd, I don't recall there being any difference in damage, apart from a quirk with the crowbar.
I'm just going nuts, these guys died to one double shotgun shot a few months back through the Steam release or so I thought. And yes I don't like the HD models, I wasn't sure where else to get them so I just grabbed the ones from Steam and put them into the WON version provided.

>>9087121
Ribbiks is fucking overrated, that's why he gets low ratings.
>lets make a large hour-long slaughtermap that has a two-toned custom palette
>repeat for the next 3 more maps
HOLY KINOOOO
DOOMWORLD, GIVE THIS MAN A CACOWARD NOW!

>>9087043
You don't need knives when you can realistically fist harder than a shotgun with slugs can hit a target through a wall.
Just tape a chainsaw onto a roomba derp and call it a day.

>>9087121
Call me when he actually makes a good map.

>>9087069
>MEDERP: Discontinued DERP line due to a glitch in the software making it try and heal people constantly.
>If loaded with stims it will inject anyone it bumps into, without checking their medical data to avoid overdoses.
>If loaded with medkit it will heal anyone it bumps into, often causing extreme pain and incapacitation.
>If loaded with berserk it will ROID RAGE anyone it bumps into, causing RAGE and RIPPING AND TEARING in subjects.
Doctor DeathBot when? I want malpractice bot as my buddy.

>>9087121
>Ribbiks.
>Good.
Try one.

>>9087154
>>9087158
>>9087162
Ok, Mt. Pain

>Ribbiks
more like Reddits

>>9087160
>If loaded with a potion, it will spritz aerosol blues onto any living thing that comes near it
>On players, a combination of inhalation and skin absorption will give you half the blues a potion sip would give you
>Demons on the other hand will suffer minor burn damage and pain. Incapped demons have a small chance to turn friendly.

>>9087035
I remember there being a roomba addon that would randomly bounce around the level sweeping up brass, don’t know if it’s still maintained

>>9086993
There is no discernible meaning value behind his ratings beside keeping easily susceptible viewers' attention, you might as well spin the wheel for these considering the choice of rating volumetric. He's stiff unbeknownst to having fun dude who is in there for anything but "spreading the joy of Doom", you should check his scripts for common footage lengthening practices he is prone to use. It doesn't take much if you have some gimmick techniques and backing hand of promient community members amidst complete lack of competition.

>>9086856
I'd like deployable items that are just there to let you use the controllers to hack robots on the map.

>>9087253
The superior reviewer
Audiovisual fags btfo
https://onemandoom.blogspot.com/?m=1

>>9087276
Based, I've found out about many cool old wads thanks to him

>>9087253
Dean of Doom only likes the blandest modern style maps.
And TNT but he's based here.
>>9087276
Based, love the site.

>>9087121
>levels getting unfairly ranked from sheer asshurt
works both ways, people praise unfun maps because now that they've suffered through them they'll want to rationalize the spent effort.
I once looked up one of the later sunlust maps on youtube after beating it myself. throughout the whole video the guy was "let's get this rng part over with", "I'll cheese this fight because every demo does it" and "you have to save bfg ammo from two fights in advance to have a chance here". but then in the end that same guy said "what a great map". sure didn't seem so judging by the rest of the commentary.

>>9087356
Yeah sunk cost fallacy is insane like that. It's sad and hilarious in equal parts watching some "I SWAER I GUD" youtube shitter claim he's amazing or great at doom but obviously not have a clue what the fuck he's doing as he goes off to challenge PWADs meant to challenge expert players. When he doesn't know how to shuffle and dodge or freezes up to shoot. Oh, or my personal favorite, tries to snipe with the super shotgun.

Let's settle this once and for all. Is it Circle of Death or O of Destruction?

>>9087443
Was this changed at some point? Didn't know this was a thing.

>>9087449
Intermission Screen and Automap give 2 different names.

Brutal Doom but actually good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXWL1gkbJIM

>>9087443
I am of the third opinion: breaking John out of his sheer laziness to make it easier for Sandy

>>9087443
I am of the third opinion: breaking John out of his sheer laziness to make it easier for Sandy, monumental fps designer my ass

>>9087160
>THE DEATH ROBOT OF AUSCHWITZ
>WHO'S NEXT FOR A SHOT OF PHENOL?

>>9086993
To be honest, Swim With The Whales is something he really should have been taking on long after Sunlust and take on Sunlust after getting great at Doom. Right now, he's still not quite there but he's getting close.

>512 Lines - iron512 by Anonymous
Amazing what you did with just 512 lines, anon. The interconnectivity, the loopbacks, the level FEELS so much bigger than it actually is. The ambush with the vile got me good the first time around when I got buttfucked from a skeleton from behind. Sadly that was basically the only time when a boner was ever threatening here. Don't get me wrong, I am not asking you to put players into a small room with a buch on boners and a zerk, but using them as turrets is also only really effective when the room can not be cheesed (like the yellow key room) and when players have to prioritize instead of just avoiding the mooks while stunlocking the revenant with the chaingun. But that's really my only (and frankly, a minor) gripe here. Probably my favorite map so far.

>>9087184
>Stopped interacting with the community
>Doesn't even post WADs on Doomworld anymore
>Just dumps his maps on his website
>Just doing what he loves as a recluse
>Still makes anons cry with autistic rage every time his name is merely mentioned
This is how you know you've made it as a mapper.

>>9087519
Ribbiks ruined doom mapping and has a cult of pretentious doomers. Slaughtershit in general ruined the doom community

>>9087154
Give this man a /v/ award now. He doesn't like the acclaimed wad, and it makes him so cool. It's so wrong, that this anon doesn't get the praise, that Ribbiks gets. Ribbiks has multiple cacowards, doomwiki entry, own website and everybody knows him and his wad. But no this anon doesn't have cacowards, entry, website or the critical acclaim and popularity that he deserves. I worship him, but nobody else does, because they are brainwashed to enjoy Ribbiks. Rothschilds and Soros have funded all Doom forums and Doomwiki, they are hiring shills to praise mappers like Ribbiks, Skillsaw and everyone of mappers who makes hard maps with cc4tex or otex. Ribbiks, Skillsaw are all part of the elite patriarchy, and their praise is all made up. They are actually worst mappers anyone has ever seen. D! Zone has better maps. What is even worse, is that cc4tex and otex texture packs are filled with textures, that are made from spike proteins from corona vaccines! It's a conspiracy!

>>9087483
Well, it's your own fault for not outvoting his donators on the "next wad to play" poll. If you were generous enough, your name would've been read aloud at the end of the episode too.

>>9087617
Stop poisoning the well by mentioning Skillsaw. At least his wads have level-design and he deserves all of the praise he's gotten over the years. Ribbiks has done more harm to the doom community than Brutal Doom and I'm not even joking.

>>9087558
There is actually lot of oldschool worship wads coming up every year. Basically more than at years 1998-2009, because community is more bigger, there's more releases and 90s worship wads are popular subgenre of wads since release of first dtwid. Ignore wads that you don't like and let others enjoy what they like. Don't be that negative asshole. Discuss the wads that you like, make wads like them.

>>9087624
Both are slaughter-lite. Where did Ribbiks touch you?

>>9087624
>Ribbiks has done more harm to the doom community than Brutal Doom and I'm not even joking.
I'd believe this unironically, but mostly because Brutal Doom seems to appeal more to people I'd call "outside the Doom community" (they feel better defined as smaller, more insular sub-communities—like the "ZDoom community".)
>>9087634
>Both are slaughter-lite.
All slaughter is not the same, faget.

>>9087634
>Both are slaughter-lite.
If you can't see the difference between how Skillsaw handles slaughter and Ribbiks handles slaughter then I can't help you.
>Where did Ribbiks touch you?
Where did Ribbiks touch you that you love his overrated shit so much? Does he give you a reach-around every time you whiteknight for him on the internets?

>>>/wsg/4627273
After accidentally making a Caco IED (>>9085205), I made an actual Caco grenade. The explosion is supposed to be a fart sound.

>>9087690
That boing reminds me of the skull from Marathon's "Kill the Man With the Ball" gamemode.

>>9087701
Actually I got the boing sound from some free sound archive site. But then again, I think those "boings" aren't that different.

>>9087356
>>9087438
I'm sorry, do statements like those mean they didn't enjoy the map?

>>9087617
>everyone knows him and his wad
I still don't know who he is and if I ever played his wad, I probably deleted it because it was boring.

>>9087624
>Ribbiks has done more harm to the doom community than Brutal Doom and I'm not even joking.
Maybe your sphincter is just loose.

>>9087718
Sure, you can enjoy breaking your knuckle bones with a hammer. Doesn't mean it's good for you. You can preach to all your neighbours how breaking your hand is the most hardcore shit. Nobody really cares though.

I don't understand why people think Ribbiks is some kind of huge influence on mapping.

>>9087519
Point proven. Thanks guys.

>>9087624
This man has literally HARMED the goodwill and fellowship of a community by making maps I don't like, and inspiring people to make maps in the same style that I don't like

>>9087745
He isn't, and "Ribbiks ruined Doom!" is an objective falsehood and a borderline delusion. There are plenty of WADs released that are not like his style at all.
Like this Adventures of Square WAD that just dropped an hour ago. Play it.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130277-speed-squared-rc1-23-level-adventures-of-square-expansion/
>>9083023

With content like this, Doom is in a golden age for sure.

>>9087718
well, if you skip encounters, clearly you're not playing to enjoy the combat.
similarly, praising something that you just happened to chance through is retarded. maybe there's a consistent tactic and the guy just wasn't skilled enough, but his praise remains hollow.
the fight requiring resources you may have spent before you knew about the fight is the equivalent of those dead-ends in sierra quests. generally considered to be bad design, but I guess some are into it.

>>9087676
Both Ribbiks and Skillsaw are influenced by 2004-2010 slaughter wads: Scythe 2, Deus Vult 1 & 2, Kama Sutra and Speed of Doom. Difference with Ribbiks and Skillsaw is Ribbiks' Sunder influence. Similarity between them comes from other influences. Unlike Sunder, Ribbiks wads are less grindy, have shorter' more arcadey combat sequences and Ribbiks gives more ammo, so you don't have to really so much of infighting, melee and shotgunning. These elements come from same source as Skillsaw's. I do agree that it's hard to see similarities, if you are not familiar with older slaughter pioneers.

Ribbiks touched my brain (and dick) by giving fun experiences with Doom. I'm not that much whiteknighting just for him as I have +50 favorite mappers, but rather not liking hatred for wads, if the criticizer can't explain why. Too hard is bad reason, since these wads do have difficulties implemented. It's slaughter is another bad reason, since it's the subgenre of mapping, and you shouldn't be reviewing slaughter wads, if you don't like slaughter wads. You are free to shit on Ribbiks' wads, but explain it, or it seems like a low effort /v/ bait.

One Humanity is the first paid pwad since Hacx (25 years)
Bravo Romero.

>>9087782
You are forgetting No Rest For The Living.

>>9087785
doesn't count since it's included with the doom games and not a separate release

>>9087794
You can't "legally" share it or get it without paying though (not that Bethesda would actually care). Howerer you are actually free to share or download One Humanity without paying. It's in the wad's text file. It's just optional charity, and technically you aren' t paying for the pwad.

I don’t follow mappers and exclusively download maps based on how cool the screenshots look.

Doom noob and coomer here. I thought hdoom had its own levels and stuff? Looks like it's just the base game but with demons to fuck? Is it even still being worked on?

Glock Duct-taped to an RC Car DERP skin, for all your "edgy Home Alone remake" needs.
https://files.catbox.moe/rai0uv.zip

>>9087837
>Is it even still being worked on?
The HDoom dev now works with 3DRealms I'm pretty sure.

>>9087846
Oh god, he's lost forever.

>>9087841
Beautiful. Any ideas for a HERP counterpart? Assault rifle rigged up to a garden sprinkler or tripod camera maybe?

>>9087860
>Any ideas for a HERP counterpart?
Yeah.

>>9087841
Looks cute, but can you fix the angled sprites? Looking at them from above it's as if they always hold up one wheel; the frontmost wheel here should be lower than the others.

>>9087873
>>9087841
Here's what I mean, just a quick fix for one angle for display purposes.

>>9087873
Something like this, you mean? I'll try it. I worked in layers in case I needed to do little tweaks like this

Uh oh, Shitseer bros...

What is "slaughtershit"?

>>9087910
Everything I don't like is slaughtershit

>>9087910
If your map01 has 1.200 or more monsters including 50 cyberdemons...

>>9087910
flat and wide open maps with tons of enemies where the main objective is to wait and pray to rngesus for everything to kill each other via infighting

>>9087895
kek, that was almost derpmind, but yeah, that's exactly what I meant and almost the very same edit I made.

>>9087782
Damn, must be some telepathy, cause I just read old IGN article about One Humanity with a headline "Doom just got a new level by romero, first one in 20 years" and I fucking kekked at how garbage journalism is today

>>9087841
>>9087873
>>9087892
https://files.catbox.moe/iawj79.zip
Adjusted the frontmost wheel on the angled frames, kept the recoil frames the same because they go by quick and I like the slightly skewed recoil angle they now imply.

>>9087869
>handicap plate

>>9087906
wow, fagweather is sure an asshole for doing something like that. I was pretty sure people here were exaggerating when posting here not to use his site but this checks out now
>>9087935
Nah, rng has influence on what happens only in small encounters, when you have massive amounts of enemies and a lot of projectiles flying rng actually becomes fair because the quantity of the sample is so big its just statistically falls into the curve. Not that I like slaughterwads anyways

Slight newfaggot here. I just made the transition from GZDoom to DSDA-Doom for vanilla gameplay and I'm liking the software rendering aesthetics without constant framedrops on larger wads. But I've noticed that DSDA-Doom has audio crackling whenever I pickup items or whenever there's monster SFX. Is this how it's supposed to be and GZDoom does some weird backend tricks to get rid of crackling, or is something wrong with my config?

>>9087935
That's pretty much shit tier slaughterwad alright. Honestly my most basic measure is down to map design and ammo/health density weighed against enemy count. If you're down to praying to infighting it's pretty much 'fuck it, COMMAND BAR I SUMMON THEE' time in my book. Doubly so if the maker doesn't give you a chainsaw which is 'Oi, ammo might be a bit lean, have this to save some mopping up champ!' in mapper.

>>9087958
>DSDA-Doom for vanilla gameplay
lmao you fell for the meme hook, line and sinker.
Get either Woof or Crispy (Chocolate Doom for "actual" vanilla gameplay), anything PrBoom derived is shit, SHIT!
That said, I don't think this is how it's supposed to be, check if your audio renderer is set up properly.

>>9087958
I never noticed any differences. try setting the sample rate to the same as your system. also try turning off random pitch if it's on.

OK but for real though, how the actual fuck do you dodge mancubus attacks?

>>9087969
Woof is too crunchy for me, I'm already used to the sharp visuals of ZDoom style sourceports so I'd rather use DSDA.

>>9087971
I changed it to 48000 Hz which is what I have my audio device configed for, and I still get audio crackles unfortunately. I'm using mostly default settings so random pitch is already off.

>>9087983
It has a pattern of always shooting in one direction first and then the other. Mancubi are the easiest of the high health monsters to deal with even in large numbers because of this.

>>9087983
Facing the Mancubus at close to medium distance: left, right, left.
Rotate depending on the Mancubus placement relative to your facing direction, at greater distance it's more lenient, since basically only the shots fired directly at you are a threat.

>>9087983
fire 3 rockets, pray to god they died, if not, chaingun them

>>9088001
Huh beat me to it. Only thing I can add to this is never get in close with one and if you have to, use high stun power weapons like a super shotgun to stunlock. I'd say consider the chainsaw but thats pretty much suicide without perfect dodging and it being alone.

>>9087983
Diagonally works pretty well. Also, RUN

>>9087945
Excellent, love it.
Also, fuck you du Halbdackel, I'm still butthurt about the spider ambush in Biskelion

>>9087624
The hate for Ribbiks and Skillsaw that comes up so often here and in other parts of the Doom community is fucking weird. Both of them are low key individuals who keep to themselves and make what they like. They don't shamelessly promote their stuff on social media, neither one brags about their cacowards or their mapper of the year awards, and neither one begs for financial support on Patreon or a merch store or whatever. They don't sit on their high horses and tell other mappers that their way is the only way. If other mappers are influenced by them, it's because both Ribbiks and Skillsaw make things that happen to resonate with a lot of people, and they've both done it for a long time. Not any kind of malice or conspiracy.

>>9088064
>Everything I don't like is slaughtershit
Yeah, nah, at least be honest about what you're doing when you're doing it.

That said, I think you have a point, in that those two are just the two most famous one who are indeed skilled, but since some streamers have a difficulty fetish and having nonstop massacre has probably a bigger appeal to the average brootal enjoyer, this particular genre also drew in some less skilled people who make literal slaughtershit.
I personally don't like combat puzzles because I enjoy exploration and comfy maps, but I can appreciate a well-made slaughtermap in principle.

>>9088054
I really should finish my 94 Protons map.

Since we're on Doom topic, if Robert Pollard was only capable to inspire impotent Darkening 2 imitation known as BTSX, which band/songwriter could give birth to a potential full-fledged masterpiece? Extensive discography full of fun song titles to steal for map names doesn't necessarily matter but is welcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXv8_HUD5_Y

>>9088103
BTSX E3 better have the map "Jimmy" by Jimmy with the MIDI "Jimmy" by Jimmy

>>9088103
I made a map out of this song https://youtube.com/watch?v=qG5i9CB7LU4

>muh slaughtershit
>muh ribbiks
>muh brootal dumb
Actually, the most harmful thing to ever happen to the doom community was this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA

It indoctrinated an entire generation of doomers into thinking that baiting revenant melees was an actually 100% safe and viable strategy.

>>9088131
>It indoctrinated an entire generation of doomers into thinking that baiting revenant melees was an actually 100% safe and viable strategy.
Sounds like you need to git gud.
But seriously, fuck people who make encounters specifically geared towards these kind of strats

>>9088131
But it is... for pacifist runs.

>>9088140
>punching
>pacifist

>>9088131
I like that video because pissing off martians by neutering their dumb attacks and aborting lost souls is fun

>>9088145
You don't punch, you just bait the revenant to punch.

>>9088131
>muh pro doom monster strats
Actually, the most harmful thing to ever happen to the doom community is some guy making the Aliens TC wad decades ago

The most harmful thing to ever happen to the doom community was me being born and farting in general direction, inhale the dread

>>9088131
Here I just shoot demons because I'm a good christian murder marine. I ain't got time to cheese demons and shitty wads with game exploits. I must DEUS VULT THE DEMONS UNTIL THEY DIE FROM IT!

>>9087983
They shoot to your right, left, then straight at you.

>>9088156
The most harmful thing to ever happen to the doom community was earlier this year. It was some really shitty WAD that came out called... 400 minutes something something Vee Arr? Whoever made that WAD must be a bunch of fucking nerds, I hope I never have to meet them!

>>9088191

I thought that the most harmful thing for DOOM community is current Doomworld.

>>9088202
This is the man behind DBP 48

>>9088206
i thought it was midnight, mayo, doomguy bot, the isabelle crossover and all that stuff lol
at least doomkid made a video correcting midnight

>>9088214
This man...
...
...
...
...is the Zodiac Killer.

>>9088216
I don't know what any of these even are. These "most harmful" things are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Content of all kinds from all walks of life continues to be produced at a steady rate. It goes to show how untouchable Doom really is.

The most harmful thing for Doom is you not working on your 94 Protons map.

>>9088191
>I hope I never have to meet them!

>>9088162
/vr/'s Ninth Crusade .wad when?

>>9088116
Having not experienced the "song", I thought the name complemented the map quite well. But it's more to do with me correlating it to "japanese kind of absurdism", not hellfrog grind.

>>9088103
I heard people calling first BTSX bland, but second episode is the one where I lost all the steam to continue early on. It's been too long ago to judge, but maybe it's my preference for tech-bases. Anyway, my bet is on Wire for their nonsensical yet somehow poignant music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3w7QrLvIh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OrxQ5cKaOQ

>>9088321
That's an interesting take. I didn't give it much thought beyond thinking it was funny.

>>9088103
the name of one of my 400mins maps is a reference to an Armored Core track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9q2vrGf4gs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RapvIBoMeIM

>>9088369
>I didn't give it much thought beyond thinking it was funny.
Toilet humour all the same, yeah.
>>9088226
>The most harmful thing for Doom is you not working on your 94 Protons map.
Comment not given enough attention. I'm fine with prolonging it up to October if it means more maps.

>>9088458
>I'm fine with prolonging it up to October if it means more maps.
I'm fine with letting it go until it meets its goal. September/October would hopefully be dedicated toward finishing Ad Mortem.

>>9087969
>>9087971
Audio anon here, I just tested Woof and there's still some audio crackle but it's not as bad as DSDA. When a lot of monsters get alerted at the same time I get audio hissing instead though. Maybe it was never meant to be and I have to go back to GZDoom

>>9088103
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGWcCy6z8yb6KZ2YDsYNb6BwbSrdCZ8xc
Bill Bruford, good titles ranging from either simple one word to more complicated ones

Is delphidoom a good port?

>>9088463
I'm hoping Ad Mortem can take place simultaneously because that project deserves some love.

>>9088478
The board just put out like 70 maps in the past two months. I think it would be a little unreasonable for people to map for two projects at the same time.

>>9088226
Oh shit, I'm sorry.
>>9083023
>>9086731
Updates to "Parasocial Love (For A Dead Porn Star)"
https://mega.nz/folder/Rx8lQCjK#hxuriZwgQmHhlNuTq2MztQ
>difficulties implemented
>co-op starts added (shouldn't be any softlocks, but nothing else was implemented for multiplayer)
>changed the music
>new routing added
>added a BFG to the ammo storehouse
>added an unmarked secret (double unmarked on Hard)
>various visual updates

>>9088486
Nobody is being forced to contribute to both projects. You can map for one project and not the other.

>>9088467
>Bill Bruford
I have a full-length MIDI of "Close to the Edge", but the whole section in the intro after the birds but before the first chorus "ahh" sounds like fucking garbage.
I'mma' fuckin' use it anyway. "I Get Up, I Get Down" is straight 10/10.

>>9088494
You're right that nobody is being forced to make stuff for both, but it still divides the attention between the two projects.

>>9087910
A cope word by people who really hate the fact that slaughter exists.

>>9087958
The PrBoom+ family of ports all have the same old shitty audio code. I guess try playing around with the settings.

>>9088064
Agree, at least if people were whining about people like Bridgeburner I'd get it.

>>9088514
I don't really see the problem. Options are nice. And even with undivided attention it doesn't look like 94 Protons is going anywhere, even after an extension

>>9088103
>impotent Darkening 2 imitation known as BTSX
Buttsex is better than Darkening 2.

>>9087941
It must be an easy gig to not have to do even a 5 minute duckduckgo search to see if what you're saying is true.

>>9088542
This thread has had a busy year. Can't expect the mapping engines to be running at full steam the entire time.

>>9088545
I am the anon who you were replying to, and I did actually like them both equally.
https://doomwiki.org/w/images/e/e6/Darkening_2_MAP04_map.png
https://doomwiki.org/w/images/5/53/Btsx_e1_MAP11.png

>>9088501
>the whole section in the intro after the birds but before the first chorus "ahh" sounds like fucking garbage.
Yeah that's kinda sad about good midi transcriptions being so rare
>I'mma' fuckin' use it anyway
My nigga

Map04 of 512 Linedefs of /vr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLQLDmxLAw

How is the DNF restoration going? Dead?

How do I make DSDA play the native windows roland soundfont?

I just came here to say both chapters of Ashes were really good and more fun than I've had with most games in a while.

>>9084101
>There was a CoD 4 MW mod that let you revive teammates or set respawn points with certain perks and random enemies that also used perks from that game but I haven't seen it in a decade or so I forgot what it was called.
You mean RGA? Speaking of which is it wiped off the face of the internet? I can't find any posts about it anywhere. Just files from servers that host hem.

>>9088623
There was a DNF restoration project?

>>9088712
Yeah RGA. It might have been wiped for all I know, yet i'm sure that's just my laziness speaking, there ought to be copies floating around. God knows info for it was stuck in some archive of the old Skulltag forum site and that went to kabloom the moment that place died due to the Zandband takeover.

>>9088724
>>9088623
yeah there was a thread being posted for a bit. apparently some people were trying to restore the 2001 build or something

>>9088735
The /v/ one? It's dead. There was no progress beyond OP reading a programming book.

>>9088730
Well that's odd, I guess the author didn't move onto other forums since I can't find anything on them. RGA is a pretty fun novelty though, as silly as it is. By the way thanks for the recs if you're the anon who originally replied to me. Wrath of Chronos and Death And Decay are on my mind now.

are there any good wads anyone here likes using for randomizer mods?

>>9088739
Yeh. It wasn't going to survive. The other one with Gianni doing the voice is posting updates occasionally.
They've also said that all the rumors about making it woke and putting in shrek (as anything more than an import test) are all bullshit, so here's hoping their not lying. And that they're not going to cut anything if possible. Which I think will lead to a potentially overbloated game, but we'll see.
There likely would've been a lot left on the cutting room floor in a normal production setting.

>>9088798
Alien VS Predator VS Terminator VS Jason VS Hell VS Seagal, also known as DBP48

Any source ports you guys rec for quake 2?