/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9077467
they're fun

>>9077479
fpbp

>>9077467
>Is it just nostalgia? Or is there something that is lacking in modern games?
It's both. The magic of re-living memories through games, and the "soul" for lack of a better word that was in those games.

I don't go out of my way to play old games. If it looks interesting I'll play it.

>>9077507
same

>>9077467
I have some nostalgia for it, of course, but it's not just that, since I usually prefer to play something retro which I never played before instead of playing something modern, I wouldn't say that it's because everything modern is lacking, it just doesn't fit my preferences the way retro does. Nowadays it's all about making everything as long as possible, everything needs to be more impressive than what came before so the scale keeps increasing, and while a lot of content is good, it's not necessarily what I prefer, I love the way it used to be, when a video game took anywhere between 30min or 2hrs to complete, but you never played just that, since they could be difficult and you'd have to play for a lot longer to finally know what to do and how to progress, sometimes it'd take days. I'd say the best part is when it clicks, and suddently something that used to get the best of you all of the time is now something you're able to sit down and go from start to finish in less than 2hrs.

One more thing that seals the deal for me regarding my preferences is that, for whatever reason, I'm fond of knowing the video games I love inside out, not everything I play, but those that are special, and to know anything modern inside out requires so much time since they have a significantly larger scope most of the time, they take longer to finish, they have more mechanics going on at the same time for you to figure out, more everything, and for a player like me that loves to get really into whatever he's playing that can be quite overwhelming sometimes, when it's more condensed it's like I get to know a video game better than if it has too much going on. I also prefer them because what you play is what you get, no chance of a future update completely changing everything, or you managing to complete it 100% only for DLC to be released, or buying it in the future only to be stuck with a 1.0.0 version that's broken, retro is finished, for better or for worse.

>>9077467
the reason i went back to retro games was i found after getting burned out on modern game that i liked the simplicity and creativity of older games,my favorite gen is the 5th.

video games are primarily an audiovisual experience for me. gameplay is important, but art direction and atmosphere are higher on the list, and i like the aesthetic of sprite based and old 3d games. also they're fun

No DLC/microtransactions. There has always been bullshit in vidya but it's so much worse now.

>>9077467
>Is it just nostalgia?
No because most of the games I play I haven't played before
>Or is there something that is lacking in modern games?
Mostly yes, old game are mostly gameplay, no forced cutscene bullshit, they are also generally more challenging.

There's another factor, I grew up poor as fuck, and as a kid I couldn't afford many games, but I did get to see them on magazines, so a lot of times I just play games I wanted to play as a kid but couldn't afford to.

Many reasons.
For starters, new games coming out nowadays are GARBAGE

>>9077467
gameplay gameplay gameplay.
modern games are just cutscenes mixed with walking simulator, you may was well watch them on youtube for free.

>>9077467
i don't specifically "play retro games" like some kind of weirdo, i just enjoy playing games and the games i enjoy playing are mostly retro games

>>9077571
This

>>9077467
I don't play games. Retro or otherwise. I just make videos where I shout about them so retarded faggots send me more shit to display on the shelf behind me. ur doing to wrong

>>9077467
>tfw not a single friend to play retro games with
not that i have time for games or friends anyway

>>9077467
Because they are objectively better than modern trash. The Wii was my last console (and I’m still convinced that was the last truly retro console experience, but that’s not a discussion for this board) and I’ve been nothing but retro ever since.

>>9077696
James? is that you?

It feels good reliving a part of the joy I felt as a kid, but nostalgia is only a small part of it. Most games I play now, I never owned as a kid.

For me, I mostly tend to gravitate to older games because of the style / soul / whatever you wanna call it. I also have a fascination with older technology in general. Limitations in hardware tended to be a driver for creativity. Creativity leads to soul. Take a way the limitations and it looks like that soul is mostly gone

>>9077467
Quantity, variety, and speed of access.
Some new games take awhile to install and setup and that gets worse if there are a lot of updates, patches, etc. That asks a lot in return for the experience delivered and I don't think time is well-directed there.
Pick-up-and-play games are very convenient. Retro games are playable instantly from old hardware, and setup effort put into an emulator gives you access to thousands if not tens of thousands of games to try.

>>9077467
because pixel art is based af and 2d games are far more precise than 3d games, which have to stimulate a dimension

>>9077467
Because a game being old doesn't mean it isn't good. For the record I play both retro and new games because...well why wouldn't I? The whole meme that every game now sucks is just a dumb doomer meme.

Gaming died in the mid-90s. There's no point in playing anything after the 16-bit generation.

>>9077467
Because I'm gay

because they only games that work on my machine

>>9077467
do you not watch old movies or read old books?

>>9077467
So many reasons. But if you could perfect some dumb kid 1/2-1/3 your age at something "xit" calls an "esport" wouldn't that be enough?

>>9077467
fun
free
low specs
fun

>>9077467
I play retro game because i never beaten any of them because i was to little comprehend, But if i did play nes, super Nintendo,n64 i wouldn't buy them again

>>9078056
>But if you could perfect some dumb kid 1/2-1/3 your age at something "xit" calls an "esport" wouldn't that be enough?
Did you have a stroke?

>>9077467
>>9077467
Nope. Most of the games I played are either things that came out before i was born or things I missed out on. A lot of it is wondering "I wonder what that game was like" and finally being able to find out.

A lot of it is also being fed up with the DRM Always Online forced multiplayer bullshit that is modern gaming (and by that I mean everything since 2007)

Gran Turismo 7 burned me out of modern games. I was super excited for it since the gameplay footage looked awesome. It was the first game I bought brand new in years. The first few days I played it it was awesome, then they shut down the servers, so you couldn't play a single player game for 3 days, then when the servers came back up again, they raised the prices of the cars, lowered the rewards of the races to the point where it was almost impossible to unlock anything.

Emulators are easy. They don't make your computer sweat, they don't take up a lot of hard drive space, you can back up your data easily.

>>9077467
modern games try cheese you wiith uncomplete and unfinished products which necessitate you to pre-order the deluxe edition or even sometimes the collector's edition to have access to all the content of the copy you buy.
on top of it some have you hooked to timed events or the shit that's unlocked is lost forever.
after a few weeks you realize they tricked your autist ass to cash in high amounts and become dependent on a predatory mechanic in a shallow and generic/repetitive game you barely enjoy just so you don't buy games of other companies.

oh and you need to buy other of the same company's games to unlock all the skins.
old games have lame shit too but for the most part you don't have to worry about your product being complete.
i feel zoomers going retro and indy is not just a fad but a sign they want more respect...

>>9077467
I play good games not "retro games"
most old games are trash as with anything

>>9077696
thank you mohammed from qatar!!!

I only replay RE/RE2 maybe RE3 sometimes
TR1, TR2, for nostalgia/awesomeness.
Some DOOM wads.
And FMV games from time to time since they've gone extinct.
Maybe some SNES emulation.

>>9077467
Because I'm old, and I like the games I grew up with better than what's available now.

>>9077467
>Is it just nostalgia?
Doesn't have to be, many discover new games from the era they have no nostalgia for but end up enjoying them.
>Is there something that is lacking in modern games?
Not really, however companies tend to play it safe and only invest in things they think will sale exceedingly well leading to a lot of the same thing being released. Also due to the internet game companies shifted to predatory business models and focus on online multiplayer modes. Indie games add variety but are mostly shovelware trying to imitate what older games did but usually miss the mark and come off as poor clones.

I like shmups, and like 95% of shmups are retro games. You could even consider new shmups retro because it's a retro playstyle and the most basic mechanics of all shooting games.

>>9078192
Kek

>>9077467
modern games have massive input lag. Plus i prefer genuine 2D games over fake 2D via open world polygon engines.

>>9077467
Some things are lacking. I play modern games but they tend to be indie titles. The thing with retro games is that there were games with cutting edge technology and graphics in a variety of genres. Nowadays the only triple-a games are open world games and if you want to play anything else it's got to be an indie game made by a team of like three people.
Some of these games are really great, Hollow Knight is excellent and I think it's the production values that really push it over the top. But good production values are hard to come by with indie games so most of them just have faux-retro pixeltrash graphics. At that point you might as well just play the classics, of which there are countless games I have yet to experience.

>>9078391
>modern games have massive input lag.
What a weird complaint

>>9077467
We didn't have a lot of money growing up, I basically played the same half dozen NES games over and over for years. Now with emulators I can freely play all the games I dreamed about getting as a kid

>>9077467
Videogames are evolving into movies .
You use to feel You we're playing a Game.
Not a movie. Technology hurt vídeo games.

>>9078446
I suggest you go play elden ring on a ps5. Its controls lag like shit. The thing is modern hardware / game engines prioritize graphical fidelity over responsive controls. The only weird thing is how zoomers put up with this shit.

>>9077568
This. Games made before like 2008 were actually complete games, stuff just had a ton of content back then.

>>9077673
Show your work.

>>9078493
I have never played a console game that had lag. They are all optimized for games so this doesn't happen, unlike on a personal computer.

>>9078493
>>9078607
I'm not sure how much of Souls input lag is intentionally part of the controls and animation windups. Menus seem to be very responsive so I don't know that it is the game itself.
Certainly more input lag than any retro game though.

Quiero verrrrgaaaa

>>9077467
Some of them are just better made than modern games- that's easily proveable based on the current state of developer fatigue and generally incompetent recent college grad programmers getting thrown into huge projects where the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing, but at least their was enough of a fucking difference between Quake 1 and 2 to not franchise the shit out of it with endless sequels that all look and play exactly the same for over ten years.

>>9077840
based

>>9077467
Soul

>>9077571
This. There's an elegant simplicity in older games because the devs focused more on the actual meat of the game rather than the bells and whistles. There are still a few modern games that manage to do that, but even the "old-school revival" games are plagued with modern design gimmicks and feel derivative.

Comf

>>9077467
Feels

>>9077467
I’m extremely antisemetic

>>9077467
For me, not only are they way more fun, but there’s this “cool” factor that they had all the way up to the beginning of the seventh generation. I still get blown away by some of the pixel art and settings of earlier games, and it just seems to me as I play them that the teams making them had just as much fun as the people who would eventually play them.

>>9078681
endless sequels and convoluted storytelling is cancer. look at Doom Eternal's lore, it'sa bloated mess and the game plays little like the original if at all

>>9077467
Anyone who doesn't play retro games is missing out.
With thousands of games made across hundreds of systems for dozens of years, not matter what your tastes are it's guaranteed that there are piles of games out there waiting for you that you'll think are amazing.
There's more to it than that though. Old games, regardless of quality, have a history to them. I love history. I love reading about past events that shaped the world and looking at old photographs and paintings and thinking about how peoples lives used to be.
But with video game history, you don't just get to hear about it, you get to LIVE it. When I play Lunar Lander I'm having the same experience a kid in the eighties had when they played it. And if someone plays it a hundred years from now, they'll have the same experience as me.
When I read an old poem, I do my best to appreciate it, but separated from the original cultural context it was written in I often feel there's much I can't really understand. But every video game is its own little world, preserved forever for anyone who's curious enough to explore it.
There's something beautiful about that. That long after you and I are dead, Chun-li will still be kicking people in Third Strike, and that people will discover her and her game like I discovered it and like people before me did. It's our era's version of the oral tradition or the English canon. Humanity will be playing these games on other worlds lit by distant stars, and they'll still be just the way they are now. Something I've touched will be a little unchanging time capsule in a forgetful universe, and I get to be part of that story.

>>9078723

>>9078113
>Did you trigger a little bitch?
Sure looks like it

>>9077479
they're MORE fun

>>9077467
I'm not really nostalgic. I'm old enough and while computing and pre-internet era was fun and much better than now in my opinion...
I emulate old games because I have missed a lot of games and certain consoles etc and now is the perfect time to revisit those games because everything new is so standardized and shit.
Also emulation by itself is interesting because it's not about "gaming" but preservation. This is the most important thing to me.

>>9078887
>it's not about "gaming" but preservation. This is the most important thing to me.
Based

If you're into most genres they either peaked or have the widest variety of output during that time period. There's a lot to be said about old school aesthetics too, and how it was a different medium when it had more primitive tools. Modern AAA games also tend to have huge teams with high turnover rates that can barely put out a working game and follow whatever trend is popular instead of trying anything new, not to mention the monetization issues. Modern indie is a grab bag but even then most indie games just ape certain classic game elements without understanding what made them great. There are more reasons to play old games than to not play them.

Got tired of the complications of modern PC gaming. Hardware requirements, drivers, installation sizes, launchers, DRM, shoehorned online functions and multiplayer interaction, shut down servers, constantly keeping an eye on new releases, so on and so forth. With retro console games I just look at recommendations, pick a ROM or ISO to download and boot up a reliable emulator. It's stress free. Also recapturing some of my childhood PS1, PS2, GB and GBC nostalgia. But I mostly try to play games I've missed out on at the time.

>>9077467
Part is the simplicity and game length. I don't have the free time to sink all that time and learn complex shit. Easier when everything was paired down and straightforward.

>>9078730
Evolution games were bullshit because all monsters scaled with you.

>>9078493
I have played Elden Ring though on PC and I legit have no idea what you're talking about. Souls games in general have a bit of a wind up with their attacks if that's what you mean? It's totally on purpose though and has been there since Demons

>>9078794
>triggered
More like I have no fucking idea what you're trying to say there

Not just nostalgia.

I'm playing retro games I never played in my life.
The reason I think retro games are better than modern games is simple: They are actually games, and not real life simulators nor movies.

Most "AAA" modern games want 3D hyper-realism, with open world and RPG elements, and heavily story-driven games. Some of those sprinkle in a "mature/gritty" story, which is codeword for "boring".
Instead of every franchise having its own distinct visual and gameplay identity, now everything looks and plays the same. This is driven by the current trends, because gaming is now more mainstream, so it is being invaded largely by people who don't even like games. So they demand that games be more like things familiar to them, like real life or like movies.

Examples:
Instead of God of War being a linear hack-and-slash with specifically tailored experience where you do cool things and are rewarded for playing in a cool way, it now has a semi-open world with tons of RPG shit and a "mature" story. A lot of the time you spend on cutscenes and menus to adjust your build. Instead of having a camera that shows you all the action around you so you can play better, you have a camera fixated on Kratos' bald head because it's more "immersive" and more like real life that you cannot see what's behind you.
Instead of Street Fighter being a fighting game with a cool cartoony art style and each entry having a unique mechanic, now it is hyper-realistic with no artistic value, and an "open world", and possibly with RPG elements (customizable characters and movesets).

Going back to retro games, a lot of these weren't possible back then due to technology limitations. You couldn't put too many cutscenes, you couldn't do hyper-realism, you couldn't mo-cap actors' expressions to such a high degree. And the current trends didn't exist simply because gaming wasn't invaded by non-gamers.
Games were simply... games.

At some point they stopped making games that you can just sit down and play for 20 minutes and be done.

>>9079036
Older games didn't always have saves though. If you turned it off you had to start over. JRPGs had designated save spots so you had to get there or lose your progress.

>>9079036
They still make them expect they're all multiplayer focused games

Threads like these are funny because it really exposes how clueless and normie so many of the so called 'hardcore retro gamers' really are.

>>9079057
I hate those games. Once the online part of a game dies down or turns to shit (which it always does), you're left with a useless game. Once the servers shut down, online only games are virtual coasters.

>>9077467
Because they're fun and I like them. I get nostalgia from playing specific games on a CRT sometimes, but mostly I just play these kinds of games because I genuinely like them. I also enjoyed collecting hardware and games, but I'm pretty much done with that at this point.
I play a lot of video games every year, but often only one or two of them is a newly released game. I could probably just play games released from 1980 to 2010 for the rest of my life and stay entertained.

I don't care when a game was released. It just happens that those released in the last 10 years suck dick.

>>9079065
Explain.

>>9077467
My gaming in the early 00's consisted mostly on GBA games and arcade games on the mame emulator. Now if I play older games is mostly NES, PS1 and GameCube, so it's not nostalgia at all. Some retro games are good, and some modern games are also good (not including AAA g*mes), simple as.

>>9078998
Havent played on PC. Since the game is shit. But i can tell you on a PS5 there is like 300 - 500 ms input lag. Which makes the combat very clunky.

>>9078607
Street Fighter V uses the unreal 4 engine. It had 11 frames input lag initially. You played plenty of console games with input lag. But your zoomer brain lags so much you don't even notice.

>>9079618
What is there to explain. He said you are an idiot. And i agree with him on that.

>>9077467
I think it's a little bit of nostalgia but 90% modern games not catering to me anymore. The PS2 for example had such a wide range of titles of admittedly varying quality but always had something interesting. I can't say the same about most modern titles which really only consist of competitive multiplayer shooter or open world sandbox that may or may not have survival crafting. Keep in mind that we've had a lot of good independently developed stuff the last decade but the AAA sector just doesn't want to take the kind of risks that were taken in the 00's.

>>9077557
Older games are way more complex than modern games tf you talking about?

>>9077531
>I also prefer them because what you play is what you get, no chance of a future update completely changing everything, or you managing to complete it 100% only for DLC to be released
Oh, so much this. I never play "new" games, because I always wait at least for two years after the release. By the time I get to it, it is always "old" in the eyes of an average guy.
I just hate the endless DLCs and updates. I love my games content-complete. I dive in, I get 100%, I dive out. If the game was good, I wil take a week off riding off tge experience dealing with the heartache and possibly drinking. Then I'll repeat the experience.
I guess, that's something I've picked up in my youth. Never got used to endless multiplayer games, like WoW or something. Never got used to this modern scheme of releasing the game and then completing it on the fly either.
Back in the days you actually had to hire your beta testers, bitch. The only plus is that now we got a lot of indy studios, and those, ocassionally, release something really good.

>>9079026
>Most "AAA" modern games want 3D hyper-realism, with open world and RPG elements, and heavily story-driven games. Some of those sprinkle in a "mature/gritty" story, which is codeword for "boring".
What is with all the shit takes in this thread? Modern games either ape WOW/tf2s style or it's shitty PBR textures lazily slapped together that looks almost real but very jarring. The early-mid 00s is the closets we got to realism. They can't even touch up a 3d model without completely fucking it up and making it look somehow less real than something with 1/1000th the polygons and 1/8th texture resolution

>>9080290

I want to see where all these franchises came from and how they evolved into what I was familiar with. I want to understand the history of gaming. I wnat to experience stuff that I never got to. I had a PS1 as a kid. I didn't have MGS, Tomb Raider, Crash, RE, or FFVII. I want to see why they're considered the best.

“State of the Art” games are just that, a state of the current times. In 5 years that game will be outdated and forgotten. Everything that keeps pace with the current trends are just more sidecars on a passing train.
I wouldn’t call games an “art” though, but I wouldn’t call a gardening an art either. True masterpieces really elevate your respect for the game, the creators, and the moments you played it. Things like that are beyond definitions of retro or current.

>>9080284
I'm just like you in these regards. One more thing I didn't mention about 100% completion that turns me off from anything modern is that a lot of the time, even for video games where the focus is offline singleplayer, they have online multiplayer achievements/trophies, which not only makes me play a modality I dislike, but it's also a problem if you play something years after its release, because its online multiplayer might not even be available anymore, so 100% completion is impossible. Speaking of online invading the offline singleplayer, another trend I'm seeing become more common is when you need to be online just to play at all, even offline singleplayer... I grew up with Gran Turismo 2 and loved it, recently I gave a shot to Gran Turismo Sport and I had to be online to save my progress in the campaign, it seems Gran Turismo 7 went the same way and you can't even play properly without being online, so if the servers are down or you have no internet available for whatever reason... then tough luck, you can't play something you legally bought with your own money, that you own the physical disk of, it's a worrisome precedent.

>>9080290
>The early-mid 00s is the closets we got to realism
I don't care which is closer to realism. It's all garbage because all these games are choosing to restrict themselves to looking like real life instead of picking something from the ocean of art style and character design, and they all end up looking the same.

>>9080278
Not the anon you replied to, but I think it depends on the game, a lot of retro stuff is simple while a lot of new stuff is complex, perhaps he didn't mean to say that retro didn't have depth, it's just that modern games are a lot less straight forward and sometimes too big to the point they overstay their welcome.

>>9079054
Not in pokemon

>>9079054
Not in pokemon gba

>>9077467
They're fun and a lot of games, good and bad, have very strong authorial imprints of the tiny teams who used to make them. Also known as SOUL.

>>9079054
Indeed, though the thread is talking about why we play them today, and regardless of what people here think about them, save states are a thing and are often used so people can stop playing and come back to it later.

I really like meta threads like this because it means I can post on this board without actually having to discuss retro video games.

>>9080296
>my face is tired
facial animations peaked with LA Noire but Rockstar trademarked it so it's the only game like that. sad.
i'd rathe put up with uncanny valley than with Oblivion characters

>>9077467
If I see a movie in 1988 and its good, I rewatch it occasionally
If I read a book in 2002.andnit was good, I'll reread it occasionally
If I hear an album in 1997 and it's good, I'll listen again. Probably a lot
But if I play a good game in 1991, I'm supposed to complete it once and move on forever?

>>9078175
That's an awesome art. Hot-rods rule!
>>9080386
Gotta say, I tend to ignore achievements altogether. I do not use Steam or whatever else, so they usually don't even pop up at all, unless I play on XBox.
I do have another unhealthy tick though, it makes me waana own every item in the game. DLC, pre-order, weapons, cars, tiny cosmetics, everything - I just gotta have it even if I'll end up never using it (I usually just pick one and go with it through the whole game,saying "This is my rifle! There are many like it, but this one is mine!").
Sometimes I even want things that are normally unobtainable or even never intented to be used by the player. That's when I go modding. And it is so much eeasier to mod old games. They tend to store data in simple, usually decimal values. Like, your first armor starts with 1 and goes up to 64 or something, nothing tricky about it.
Modern games are full of hexadecimal IDs coded in the game somewhere. Your first armor goes with 5E0AFE33 and last armor will be 1B2C4193. It is complete nonsense and, obviously, much harder to mod. THere are many other nuances why modern games are usually harder to mod, but this is just one example which shows why I prefer older games.

>>9077467
have you seen the kids today dude? do you think some based boomer is making these new games? no, it's some 23 year old faggot who was raised on GMOs and microplastics and has pink hair with the sides shaved and problem glasses and weird pointy tits even though they have a dick and dress like a pantera fan. this is who's making your game. it is literally, physically impossible for truly goodz soulful games to be produced anymore. the people making them are young faggot retards with no talent and no passion and the culture and society we live in obstructs creativity and free thought. i dont play old games because i want to wank off the past, i play old games because there's nothing new that's as good.

>>9077467
Less complicated.

>>9077467
Two reasons:
1) I like getting into game serieses from the very beginning, so I play some retro games because they're predecessors of the modern ones.
2) I need something to play on Android. Most of the native games are either arcade time killers or dogshit, while retro ones are quality.

>>9077467
If a 10-20+ years old game still manages to make people talk about it in 2022, then it definitely has something remarkable about it, therefore I won't waste my time if I look at it myself.
Also, it's fun to make cheats for them to fix/implement something that people have been asking for ages but nobody could have done it before (or rather no one bothered).

>>9080627
Except that's wrong. Most games are stylized and focusing on readability. Fortnite, overwatch, league, dota, valorant, tw:wh3, etc. Even "realism" games look cartoony and stylized to a certain degree like CS:GO

>>9077467
In part it is a bit of nostalgia, but they are still enjoyable games that I have fortunately kept from those days. I mostly play them because I could not afford the newest stuff. Modern games lack a good price that fits my limited budget. The modern systems are too expensive and the games prices are high as well pricing me out. They tend to disguise the price like "free to stream" but my neighbor's internet is not that strong to support that much data being used and the price of the supporting services are not going down. Would love to play modern games as well as retro games, but wages just have not kept up.

>>9077479
This.

>>9077467
The simplicity. I do go to modern gaming if I want an in depth, detailed simulator or strategy game. But sometimes its better to not have to deal with launchers, DLC, logins, cutscenes, menus, other bullshit. Just put the cartridge in and jump over the goomba.

>>9077467
Older games have a pick up and play appeal which I greatly appreciate. They also have a clearer vision since they're made by such small teams. The modern games I play tend to mainly be retro-inspired/indie ones

>>9080834
I guess I've been playing a lot of retro PC games lately and their newer counter parts are significantly dumbed down. It's like modern games are a weird fusion of console and PC games but without the best of either.

>>9081380
Resident Evil
Sekiro
The Witcher
Soulsborne
Ghost of Tsushima
Starfield
Deathloop
The Outer Worlds
Half Life
Halo
Forza
God of War
DMC
Hell Blade
Doom
Death Stranding
Horizon
RDR
The Matrix Awakens
Cyber Punk
Far Cry
Returnal
Monster Hunter
GTA
Uncharted
TLOU
Street Fighter
Mortal Kombat
Pragmata

Yes, there are stylized games, but realism is the trend, and because this is what the "normies" want, this is what the devs will make.
All of these games have/had hype around them, winning awards or being highly anticipated. Rarely will you see the likes of Overwatch or BotW getting the same attention.
Street Fighter 4 and 5 were ignored outside the fighting game community, but show a hyper-realistic close up of Ryu as a teaser, and now SF is relevant.
I highly this ugly shit. You will almost never see this in retro games.

>>9081523
>It's like modern games are a weird fusion of console and PC games but without the best of either.
I've never heard this point before, but it sounds interesting, could you elaborate?

>>9083723
I barely play newer games so I'm going off the ones I have played and what I keep hearing.
Old school PC games had a ton of shit going on. FPS/RPG hybrids were already being done in games like System Shock, except you also had resource management and a stealth system ontop of that. If you didn't use the stealth system to sneak up on enemies to wrench them to conserve resources it didn't matter what your build was you would be screwed over later in the game, but your build was also fairly important because it dictated how you even played a game.
Old school console games were way simpler but as the game progressed built off of what was there and usually demanded the player master whats there before getting to the end. That's not to say they were all this simple that's just the norm and vice versa is true with some PC games.
I'd say both PC and console had open ended level design depending on the game but it was way more common on PC.

Every newer game I've played has like half-and-half of each. Either it's a console game that has PC mechanics to hold your hand and bloat the game or it's a PC game that's completely gutted. Bioshock is a good example of the latter. It's literally the same game as System Shock 2 except the resource management is non-existent. There's no skill system meaning any resource you can find you can use you aren't locked out. There's no inventory management so you can bring everything with you. Hacking a turret in Bioshock feels like flexing on the enemies where in System Shock it was a huge deal because now you just saved so much ammo. I almost never worried about what ammo I used on what enemy in Bioshock where as in System Shock it was a game changer because it meant less bullets wasted.

>>9081568
I don't even know half of those games but some of those are long standing series that were trying to be as realistic as they could be when they were originally released like Resident Evil, Doom, Monster Hunter, DMC and Far Cry. Even then some of those I don't really agree with being realistic style like Monster Hunter and DMC, they're more like anime but in whatever the latest lighting engine is.

Overall I see what you mean. I've just seen the ugly Blizzard imitation stylized graphics so many times it's burned in my head.

Gamers, I'm looking for a title but am not going to make a thread about it yet.
It's a PSX game, a third person shooter with tank controls, and could be described as having similar aesthetics to Sin and Punishment on the N64
There's mild exploration and platforming elements but it was mostly about clearing linear levels of enemies and fighting bosses
ring any bells?

>>9077467
They're free. If I had a job, I'd be playing PS5 games instead. I already played all I want to play of those old gens when they were new, but no income limits what I have to work with if I want new games to play, though since the Rona Bucks, I've mostly been buying PS3 games, but there are PS2 games in there as well.

>>9084278
Gungage?

>>9084327
wow. yes thank you

>>9077673
Old: Good
New: Bad
You like old games because they came out when you were a kid.

>>9084283
Lmao fucking loser.

>>9084358
Not who you replied to, but games today try to be more like movies and real-life simulators than games. Gameplay is sacrificed in the process.

>>9084414
Play different games.

>>9084485
Already playing retro

I play retro games because the gameplay, graphics, and music is generally better.

However, have you idiots talking about "Games today" tried not playing "triple A" movie game garbage? If you can't find good new games, it is because you aren't looking, or even trying.

>>9084485
That's exactly why some people are playing old games fucktard

>>9077568
Underrated reason.

I like the games, and some of them I never had the opportunity to play when they were new, and others have no modern equivalent, or the modern one is crap.

I didn't play Thief 1/2 growing up, but I enjoyed them a lot, so it's not purely nostalgia for me.

Newer games just don't look interesting to me; but, even though I brushed off nostalgia with regards to Thief, as an example, I do like the look of PS2-era games over a lot of newer stuff.

>>9084531
The problem is that it's a trend. These trends mean there will be LESS good games, and modern gamers are following these trends, meaning LESS exposure for good games. Many of our favorite series won't have a decent new entry for years to come due to these trends. Those are the actual issues.
And btw, I do have a few favorite games that came out recently, but that's the issue: "few".

I just prefer simple pick up and play games

>>9077467
I play both. I don't think that's ridiculous. I see sometimes people who think either new games have nothing of value, or that old games were all uniquely good. Really, there's a lot of middling content all the time and it's nice to be able to go back and just grab above average games across the ages and play them.

Though, it really is true that different genres have been more or less popular over time, and so if you like, say, platformers, then the late 80s and early 90s were a fruitful time.

>>9084639
I kind of hope mobile gaming keeps evolving and drawing more people and other gaming goes back to being the same set of weirdos it always was. I have no idea though.
I really do notice that I think gaming, as it was known, hasn't really gotten more popular as much as gaming has expanded it's definition further and further to include more people.

If that makes sense. I look at sales charts and see that mobile games are really the dominant growth market though and they really are different in some fundamental sense from non-mobile games.

>>9078037
Not OP, but it's distressing normalfags wont watch movies made before 2015 anymore, especially zoomers.
As for reading? Unless it some fetish garbage like 50 shades, people just don't read anymore.

>>9084524
Based.
>>9084559
Play some different new games sweet summerchild.

>>9078192
Jokes aside, I do miss Classic Game Room.

>>9084749
And here I am, translating obscure 80's trash named Galaxina from english onto my language.
I do not even know why I'm doing it.

>>9084751
>sweet summerchild
I know it's bait but this phrase makes me want to strangle someone.

>>9084751
Project less summerchild

>>9084639
Trend is that its easier for small studios to make great games than it has been for any time in ages. We will never be in the 90s golden age again, but there's way more great new games coming out now than at any point in the late 2000s or the early 2010s, when things were really dark.

>>9077467
I make no distinction to choose games, i can finish jagged alliance 2 and play MH Rise right after, to me it all belongs in the same big basket called VIDEO GAMES.

the artistic vision in older games is more appealing
the technical limitations don't bother me

>>9077467
Less focus on cinematic bullshit and no shitty monetization

>>9077673
99% of /vr/ was utter trash too, we just have the benefit of survivorship bias now. We have a good idea of the complete set of good retro games and can play them without sifting through garbage first.

As for me my preferences are definitely informed by the games I played as a kid. I like games that are like the ones I played back then, whether they're ones I played when they were new, ones from the era I never tried at the time and even "retro" games aping the style if they're actually good.

It's both. There's a massive amount made in the last 30 years that I haven't yet had the pleasure of playing. Long-term no-hassle accessibility in the modern era is a joke. Practically everything from older platforms is easy to access in one way or another. I'll probably play indie games forever after but I'm pretty comfy just checking out stuff I missed over the years.

>>9077834
Nah, after the Gamecube, GBA and PS2, everything was over.

>>9078607
Console games have always had lag. Are you on acid?

>>9077467
Since retro games had limitations on both hardware and storage capacity, most developers chose to focus on just basic goals. The challenges were straight forward so the player was able to focus on learning the mechanics and using that knowledge to progress.

Modern games have much more working room that some developers think padding their games out with gimmicks or filler makes it a better game or if they're just trying to make use of the extra capacity. Somehow, this manages to appeal to the casual crowd but not the challenge oriented gamer.

>>9085010
Games for people who don't like games.
I used to be against gatekeeping and thought "why wouldn't I want more people to play with?"

Play retro videogame:
>turn game on
>press start
>start playing
>make it a few levels in
>start getting my shit pushed in
>fight to the end or fail
Play modern videogame:
>launch game
>wait for game to load
>wait through unskippable opening video sequences
>wait for game to connect to online server
>wait for game to load online profile
>choose to continue
>wait for game to load saved game
>start playing
>cutscene
>press X to not die
>cutscene
>only have any challenge at the end of the game, if at all
>"you have disconnected from the server, ending game session"
Why the fuck does anyone play modern games?

>>9084863
>>9084860
based summerchild

>>9077467
The design of recent games really are not my thing.

A simple example is the difference between max payne 1&2 and max payne 3 in terms of controls. Mp1&2 are a lot more "gamey" but they give you a lot more freedom as to how you want to move.

>>9080209
>But your zoomer brain lags so much you don't even notice.
I'm in Generation Why. My Sega Genesis never lagged.

>>9084798
Don't waste your time on shitty books. If you must translate something, make sure that it is literature.

>>9085361
Galaxina is a B-movie... But on the other hand, some B-movies from the 80's and 90's are fucking miles above today's mainstream movies. You never know where you will find a hidden gem. And I have this weird rule for myself that I gotta have translation before actually watching the movie (because I know that if I'll watch it I won't have motivation to translate it, evne if I'll like it).
As for books - well, if I'll ever translate something in that area, I will start with my own stories, and I will have to translate them from my language on english. Can't see it happening any time soon.
Perhaps, one day I will get into translating games as well. I've been looking into Cosmic Fantasy Stories - it looks like the process is laid out in that case. All that is needed is some guy with tons of free time and nothing better to do...

>>9085376
Be sure to share them with https://366weirdmovies.com/ .

Test

>>9077467
Nostalgia AND something lacking in modern games

>>9077467
As a zoomer, I don't care about the retro aspect, I just like to play good games and it turns out that proportionally there are more good games in the past than in the present if only by virtue of the catalogue of retro games being humongous.

>>9085385
icles

>>9077467
>Is it just nostalgia?
Yes.
>Or is there something that is lacking in modern games?
Modern games don’t have member berries. We crave member berries. Games that came out when we were children are better than having to learn new games. Simple as.

Because I can still enjoy retro stuff, I don't mind newer games but they really need to capture my attention for me to stick with it, otherwise I drop them pretty quick.

sovl can’t be achieved with a board of directors and outsourcing

>>9085841
/board

>>9077467
is free

>>9085082
>turn game on
>press start
>start playing
so you only play atari 2600 games?

>>9086037
zoomer moment

>>9077467
I don't like new games. They're too different from what I grew up with. 1995-2010 is my sweet spot.

will we ever see that System Shock remake that got bought by the Chinese company?
seems stuck in limbo.

It's a mixed bag for me. There is the nostalgia I get from playing some older titles, but on the other side the games I play are way more fun than pretty much anything modern. In the last years retro vidya has become kind of an obcession to me, and the fact that the "industry" has gone to the total shitter makes a symbiotic relation of
>old good
>new bad

>>9085867
don't forget companies that sell expertise on human behavior in exchange for player data.
manufactured addiction, exploited OCDs, farming of customer focus to keep them from buying from the competition...
these guys are a law away from drug dealers.

Discovering things I didn't get a chance to play. When it comes to stuff like the PC Engine/TG-16, Atari Jaguar and 3DO, those were systems I desperately wanted as a kid but our family couldn't afford. I ended up completely falling in love with the PC Engine and bought a core system and a bunch of its accessories.
Newer games are just expensive so I don't play them as often, and find it hard to dedicate much time to them.
>>9084759
me too, anon.

>>9086152
Hello fellow Jag player!

>>9086148
I've been thinking about the predatory tactics companies use in modern gaming, including the mobile market and it makes me want to fucking puke. They'll get worse until they're forced to stop. Which won't happen anytime soon.

>>9086159
Sup. Have there been any new developments on Jag CD emulation or nah?

>>9086162
yeah it's given me trust issues. this combined with "metaverse" paints a sad picture of the future of these markets...

>>9086174
you mean on the Gamedrive? SainT will be back at it soon.

>>9086187
I was actually just talking about software emulation, but I may end up buying a physical Jaguar and gamedrive though.

>>9077467
Dumb question. Because I like video games. I play new ones too. Do you ask people why they read books that aren’t new releases or watch movies that aren’t actively being advertised?

They look cool and you can respect the old graphics and gameplay.
Pixle art on older games and crt looks awesome.
With shooters it seems more violent and fun with old games.
New games being too smooth and fluent makes it borring.

>>9081468
You shouldn't be alive right now.

>>9077467
>old games can still be as good or better than modern
>usually has aesthetic art style and music that will never not be enjoyable
>huge backlogs from multiple consoles to learn to love
>sometimes you want games to be simple and pure
Not every game has to be a hobby with hundreds of hours of tedious shit to do. Nowadays people expect each game to be your only source of entertainment, like it has to take up your entire life to be worthwhile. I just beat Klonoa for the first time in only a few hours and it was a better experience than some newer games that expect you to play for days. Actually it was a lot like my experience with Kirby Forgotten Land but even that game was padded for nerds.

>>9077467
> Why do you play retro games?

They dont have woke agenda

>>9085795
>something lacking in modern games
What?

>>9086530
Care to elaborate?

>>9086362
Care to elaborate?

>>9086530
>>9086634

Old videogames: fun and adventures.

Modern videogames: woke agenda.

>>9086690
Play different modern games. Not all are woke.

>>9086943
Not that anon, and you are right, but I just want to point out that it is kinda darn infuriating that you have to do a small research in order to understand if the game will try to go all political. I mean, most of the devs do not even mildly state that kind of stuff on the cover; you always have to read reviews, walkthroughs or whatever else in order see if it is in there or not.

>>9077467
many of them could only imagine to play because i was poor now i an buy them all

>>9086965
You have to do research for any purchase unless you're willing to gamble your money.

>>9087134
Somewhat true, yes. I do reasearch pretty much all of my games before actually playing them. However, I'm not buying games before I've actually tried them, like, period.
Also, in retro games I actually can go in blind from time to time, and I've only dropped several old gamees purely because I did not like the mechanics.
With modern games, tons of them were filtered out simply because of politics, and even then I've had to drop at least one because out of sudden the game started to tell me how difficult the life is for trannies and I know nothing about their hardships. Like, what the fuck.
So, by pure percentage, you can gamble on retro games and get a nice experience. With modern games there's a high chance you'll get a brainwasher.

The mental gymnastics in those threads is always amazing to read.
I play retro games because they're videogames, what more of a reason does one need?

>>9087460
>He plays video games

>>9077467
Modern games are so homogenized they're very rarely interesting to actually play. Even the visuals are boring in most games despite there being so much more power in current consoles/PC.

>>9077467
Retro fighting games are still the best fighting games. Playing fightcade everyday.

>>9081468

>>9077467
Only good modern games are open world, racing and

That's all I can think of... Oh ya some sports too

That's why I still go back and play past games

>>9077568
This
>no need to connect to online servers
>no subscriptions, game passes
>no ad banners for superfluous merch or worse, purchasing in-game resources/unlockables with real money, destroying all immersion
>no 50gb update everytime you boot it up
Game as a service crippled all of gaming.

>>9077467
>Is it just nostalgia?
Maybe for others but not for me, they're new games since I haven't played them. I'm also emulation only.
>is there something that is lacking in modern games?
Yeah, wasn't always like this. I found them fun, but now I can't stand them. Started playing and watching old shit when I lost interest in current year entertainment. Well not all, but only a few modern games can grab my attention.

>>9077479
/Thread

>>9089510
>open world
Mediocre at best. They never utilize their open world to the full potential.
This really baffles me as it should be obvious. Yet most of the missions in said "open world" games actually limit you to some confined zone. And as soon as you leave it - mission failed.
Said zone usually do not have even half of weapons, planes, cars or whatever else the game has to offer, so you are pretty much limited to one single approach to complete that mission. Unless you launch Cheat Engine or something, of course.

>>9085082
You forgot
> Install game
> Install updates
> Update console
> Update controller (xbox literally does this)
Every fucking game has an update every fucking time I play it. At least the switch lets you skip it but xbox forces you to go offline if you don't want to. Retro games are more often plug and play which is a huge reason I love them

>>9090213
PS5 and Switch have controller updates too.

>>9077467
I am not kidding you Source Engine just is to omuch for my potatoe so I can't play CS:GO, which means I have to play CS 1.6 instead.

>>9088794
>prob never played Tetsunoko VS Capcom yet

They're free and I can play them on nearly any gadget I own.
There's no filler, I can start one and be in the thick of the action immediately.
They're stylistically distinct. Every game and every platform has unique graphical and aural presentation which makes them memorable.
They're technically intriguing. I like to be impressed by a game overcoming its hardware constraints.

1. They're fun.
2. Nostalgia if they're games I've played in the past, and if they're games I want to revisit to complete.
3. There's a plenthora of old games I haven't tried due to not having the time/funds/being too young to play them back when they were brand new.
4. Cheap or even free most of the time.
5. Don't need a beast of a machine to run or emulate them.
6. I'm not getting nickel and dimed by publishers on DLCs/season passes/online services.
7. No surprise or day one, 50+ GB patches to download before launching game.
8. I can still launch and play these games if my Internet connection goes out suddenly.
9. Configuring the hardware to run games at their best is half the fun.
10. Modern conveniences that benefit old games, such as modern controllers, wrappers and shaders that can enhance the look of old games, connectivity such as playing modem games over a WiFi232.

Games are games, just like movies are movies and books are books. You wouldn't avoid watching a movie or reading a book just because they're old, so why do that with a game?

>>9086634
Stuff like pic related.

>>9077467
Although I was born in 02 my brother and my sister are respectively 10 and 12 years older than me so I consumed a lot of media from the 90's and the 00's. My brother used to play a lot of computer games and since I was a child I watched him play vidya. Here in Brazil the most popular console at the time was the PS2 so I've got to experience the ps2 and ps1 libraries easily. And in the top of that, I started emulating old vidya and I watched a lot of AVGN and other old school gaming Brazilian youtubers.
It's also impossible to ignore the fact that most AAA games released recently in the west suck balls, with a predatory business strategies, shallow gameplay and a mediocre pandering to NPC's Marvel ppl.

>>9077571
based

>>9077467
Retro vidya has good games and little to no politics. Modern games are tranny crap developed by slacktivist lefties who prioritise pushing their ideologies and politics over developing quality vidya with good gameplay, story, graphics, etc.

>>9090428
This.

>>9090470

Tons of reasons really. As a 97 baby I didn't get to experience my favorite games when they were new. I still feel nostalgia just from having fun with them as a kid/teen, finding new (old) consoles, and learning about how the medium came to be. Retro games are more challenging but usually simpler to pick up and play: no 500 hour long cutscenes, no "press x to win the game" and if you need a tutorial just RTFM. That simplicity's great since I don't have a lot of time for my hobbies anymore. They come fully packed without any DLC or always online crap sneaking up on you. Retro gaming's also really easy to set up whether it's through flashcarts, PCs, or modded consoles and in the end it saves a ton of money. Plus my PC is a shitbox I've had for 10 years and I couldn't justify upgrading it so running modern games is a bad idea.

>>9077467
Originality is lacking in modern games

Fun gameplay too

>>9077467
I play all games. Retro games just happen to fall under all games. Right now I'm waiting for Xenoblade 3 to leak, but earlier today I was playing Smash Ultimate and Streets of Rage 2 with my brother.

>>9084363
I literally get up every day, get something to eat, then do whatever I want the rest of the day since 2007. Enjoy wage slavery.

>>9090424
Penis, noooo. What is wrong with me that this image do this?

Captcha:AAY0RM

>>9077467
Nostalgia, pure fun, community.

>>9077467
just never stopped since they came out, don;t care much for modern games where you have to be always online and staring at black lesbians

Modern gaming is truly awful.

I’m not going to own a current gen console that has 1-3 games I want to play MAYBE, when I could play older gens and have dozens upon dozens of games to play.

PS1 and PS2 alone will keep you busy for half a lifetime and it doesnt have the garbage elements of modern gaming. So if you don’t care about graphics then you’re in for a treat.

>>9077467
Nostalgia? I'd say I play more than 90% of the so-called "retro" games for the first time when I was 25 or older. I played earthbound the for first time aged 28 lmfao

>>9094408
But I do care about graphics. That's why I fucking despise realism in modern games and love retro aesthetics.

>>9084358
>You like old games because they came out when you were a kid.
Yes. I was poor and could only fantasize while I looked through gaming magazines at the library. New games don't interest me at all. There hasn't been anything good since 2007, in gaming or anything else.

>>9077467
>Is it just nostalgia? Or is there something that is lacking in modern games?
both
>>9077479
and this

I lost interest in consoles after the PS2 era.

>>9096293
So just sticking to PC?

>>9096302
I barely play anything nowadays.

>>9096308
Do you want to?

>>9096420
That's the thing, I want to and don't want to simultaneously.

>>9096425
Why? Not enough time?

>>9096431
That and no motivation to actually play.

>>9096442
Maybe you could pick up something that you could play at your own pace. Visual novels like Ace Attorney or RPGs like Pokemon. Games where you could save anywhere and don't require much effort to get back into if you've left them for a while de to lack of motivation.

>>9096454
I have no interest in VNs or RPGs.

>>9096473
What are you into?

>>9096482
Sports games, racing games, adventure games. I even bought a load of new games and I haven't played any of them.

modern games are not games, they are normie cancer made by happy merchants

>>9096489
Try using howlongtobeat.com to see how much of a commitment each game is. Maybe that'll make it less daunting.

>>9096502
That won't help. I bought them for the sake of having them to play yet I have no desire to play any of them.

>>9077467
They're better

>>9096505
retard

>>9077467
I enjoy pressing buttons and having the game respond 1-3 frames later and playing the entire thing without ever being prompted to engage with some online shit or install an update or buy an expansion. The game what it is. The end.

>>9096741
You don't think I know that already? Tit.

i don't, i only shitpost about filters with that donkey kong looking good image.

>>9086332
>>9088985
That is why I am putting so much effort into building a time machine to take me back. Every time I make some progress, something disastrous happens and prevents its completion. Car issues wiped out my savings and the rising inflation to incoming recession has robbed me of the chance and keeps me stuck in this timeline.

>>9084749
>Unless it some fetish garbage like 50 shades, people just don't read anymore.
Untrue, actually. Paperback printing is going gangbusters again.

>>9084975
Yeah, i hear you. Humanity has explored if not exhausted the novel as a medium, we're coming to understand film pretty well, but video games are another medium again. While it's possible to do things like make people read chunks of text in film, it's done so carefully. Every single AAA game just throws FMV/scripted scenes and events in there without considering if it's the best way to get the player invested. I wonder if we're going to look back on this and cringe worse than we did with FMV CD games like Night Trap and the PC-Engine port of It Came From the Desert. Those were quirky, at least, not just corporate pap.

>>9097717
>even the universe hates me
So it's unanimous

>>9097717
Nobody fucking cares

>>9077467
I just like them.

>>9077467
Modern games take too long to get going and by the time all the mechanics finally start to mesh well with the level design they're over. Sick of everything having to be 30+ hours with 25 hours being bloat to appease retards who think because they beat the game it's now never worth playing again.

>>9086359
modern games are insecure. they're never sure if "modern gamer" will enjoy them so they pad them out with a bunch of nonsense and hope something sticks.

>>9077467
Its not nostalgia because most the system/games I play I never owned or are before my time, I dislike most modern games because they always arrive with gamebreaking bugs, crashes performance issues etc it feels like a chore to try play them so I just stopped. the only games I still play when they come out are pokemon. Also old games usually have nice aesthetics and art styles the majority of newer stuff is all just trying to look as realistic as possible. Devs also used to care more and you can notice when playing the games isntead of playing something that got shat out to sell you dlc and other bullshit. I also dont really get excited for any newer games most of them dont look fun, i dont see the point in playing them when theres thousands of older titles I have never looked at

Because original games aren't made anymore literally every shooter that comes out is just a copy of some other title, all recent shooters are just clones of tf2 or counter strike game modes

>>9090213
>At least the switch lets you skip it
switch forces joycon updates

>>9096489
>I even bought a load of new games and I haven't played any of them.
thats the problem get one at a time kek

>>9097717
>Car issues wiped out my savings
Kek the fuck are your savings you should never spend more than like 1.5k on a car mine costs me 1200 and ive had it for 8 years

>>9098002
Nah, it isn't. I don't even want to play any of the games I got years ago.

>>9078697
This annoys me about FF7R. Everyone liked the original even with its poor graphics and balancing issues. Instead of correcting those things, we get
>released in parts over multiple years
>press x fast to win
>hallway simulator
>DLC
>will span consoles so you have to upgrade to play the next release
When they could have just remade the original with improved graphics, balancing, and adding towns/content to have something new. It made me just want to play the old one.

>>9077467
1. story-tellling and world maps in JRPGs is generailly a lot better.
2. stylization.
3. nostalgia to some degree
4. creativity. Play the original Tomb Raider games, then play the new ones. Graphics aside you cannot honestly say the new ones are better.

>>9077467
I like horror and play horror games almost exclusively. The golden age of horror games ended close to twenty years ago- but there are still loads of games from that era I haven't played yet and they hold a lot more interest for me than contemporary (and highly marketable) horror titles.

>>9077467
I don't have a problem with modern games in general nor think retro games are better. I guess I just don't set any boundaries regarding what era a game came from and I like discovering new (old) stuff. I can understand why people don't feel the same (no actually I don't) but I'm lucky to have a more open mind regarding this, especially considering I was born in the late 90s. I can have as much fun with something like Wizardry as I had with RDR2. And not every non-retro title is a big budget open world type of game.
I also never got the habit of playing online multiplayer stuff, and that's mostly the bulk of the popular titles nowadays.
I also don't have a problem with "movie games" on itself because I never thought a medium should be limited to a set of standards, as long as it has a good story (and unfortunately that's not always the case) regardless if it doesn't meet the criteria of whatever Wikipedia or dictionaries define as a video game.

I don't have a problem with modern games in general nor think retro games are better. I guess I just don't set any boundaries regarding what era a game came from and I like discovering new (old) stuff. I can understand why people don't feel the same (no actually I don't) but I'm lucky to have a more open mind regarding this, especially considering I was born in the late 90s. I can have as much fun with something like Wizardry as I had with RDR2. And not every non-retro title is a big budget open world type of game.
I also never got the habit of playing online multiplayer stuff, and that's mostly the bulk of the popular titles nowadays.
I also don't have a problem with "movie games" on itself because I never thought a medium should be limited to a set of standards, as long as it has a good story (and unfortunately that's not always the case) regardless if it doesn't meet the criteria of whatever Wikipedia or dictionaries define as a video game. And all the ones I've seen or played at the very least require player input to progress, which I'd say is the bare minimum to call something a game, regardless of quality.

tl;dr I like both retro games and modern games

>>9098472
>And all the ones I've seen or played at the very least require player input to progress, which I'd say is the bare minimum to call something a game, regardless of quality.
Games are getting worse because of you.

>>9077467
Life became comfy financial-wise and now I have the money to explore old games. Also modern games are filled with politics, even indie ones that try to remake or pay homage to classic titles

>>9097717
based, this system is immune from spectre/meltdown/retbleed

>>9097803
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>>9098003
That's why I'm glad you do. Wages have failed to keep up and it letting people slip through the cracks with ever growing wealth inequality as time moved on. There is a bit of joy and expertise craft in some of those old games that are still around today, but there is a sense it is diminishing. I still like games of today as I did of yesteryear, but in terms of quantity, I have not lost passion for the games, the games may have lost their passion for me.

>>9100169
That is one of my major stumbling blocks to completing the retro Win7 time machine, aside from figuring out how to inject nvme drivers for storage, since I don't intend for the time machine to be internet capable I've been trying to research in avoiding those mitigations for added performance.

>>9101212
I don't even see the point in owning a gaming pc anymore. When the market broke for pc parts I just decided to downgrade and collect the profit. Modern games just totally fail to make me happy. And it really isn't a nostalgia thing.

Because the gaming industry has morphed into an ultra-profit driven scheme worth billions of dollars. It's about online hype-culture, trend chasing, advertising, monopolizing technology, intellectual property law, licensing opportunities, and rampant career opportunism for Twitter hacks, basically anything and everything ancillary to what made games novel and exciting at a certain point in time. Is there some romanticization of the past going on? Of course. However, retro games were looked at as a weird, niche interest for computer programmers and obsessive geeks. The insular nature of the hobby led to increased experimentation and well crafted experiences pointing towards a greater potential of the medium.

Focus testing and hype culture destroyed a lot of this because games were sanitized and lost much of their originality. Instead of being excited by new features, there are bullet point expectations that need to be fulfilled so the producers can enter into wide a market as possible. It's essentially the falling rate of profit in action, games need to make more money to cover their absurd development and marketing costs and this becomes harder unless they implement crappy crunch time conditions, or implement penny pinching bullshit.

>>9101219
based as hell. you can run any modern game worth playing on hardware from 5 years ago, and if something new comes out?
play it on a console, PC's are a fucking disaster these days and the new consoles are finally up to the task for the price.
I have an RTX 2070s and the most intense thing I do on my PC is emulate MK8 on netplay

>>9101212
Jesus Christ fuck off with the avatarfagging.