/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9084978
seems fair to me if you can't avoid a rocket

>>9084978
this is the doom equivalent of your weapons bouncing off walls in the souls games while the enemies do not

You gotta learn to avoid the projectiles ya jadrool

Unironically brilliant because you can register taking damage faster in your brain from the red tint on the screen more than looking at the HP value which is more abstract.

>>9084978
>not wearing shades 24/7

>>9084978
what if jannies banned clearly shitpost topic posting motherfuckers instead of acting like the thought-police and banning people for posting things they dont agree with?

what then? it would be 4chan again (almost)

Anyone who posts about how bad they think Doom gameplay is would have to be younger than 4chan itself

>>9084978
>put a giant red screen that blinds him for a solid 3 seconds, making the damaged player even more vulnerable and defenseless?

>tell me you've never been shot without telling me you've never been shot

>>9086140
>tell me you've never been shot without telling me you've never been shot
this tiktok shit should be bannable

>Get hit
>Your health level drops

carmack is a HACK

>demons have pain state
>doomguy has pain state
Quit being a bitch and don't get hit.

>>9086252
Demons also have an iq of 5 and are in great number, while doomguy is just one. Should you have brain damage and somehow multiply your doomguy to even it out?
Retard

>>9086742
Mate sorry to break the news but if you can't dodge a rocket coming right at you then your IQ must not be much higher than that of a demon.

>>9086745
Muscle memory= high iq
unironically retarded and completly missed the point

>zoom to the zoom zoom
Stick to CoD and shut the fuck up then. If you're not fishing for (You)s I don't know what else to tell ya

>>9086778
Games like Blood and duke nukem don't have to rely on cheap mechanics. Saying "lol zoomer XD" isnt an argument. Thinking every game from the 90s is exactly like this just reveals how much of an underage faggot you are.

>>9084978
Sounds like a great idea, I bet it'll make NEETs on an anime forum mald in 30 years

>>9086753
>see the rocket coming at you
>gosh I know I should move to the left due to my IQ being higher than the average person, but my muscle memory is just not up to a scratch to push a move button fast enough so I can avoid it
Anon, you are retarded and shite at videogames.

>>9086816
If it was so easy to avoid rockets, the cyberdemon wouldn't be one of the main bosses of the game
If it was so easy to avoid rockets, the cyberdemon would be infamous for being the easiest enemy in the game, if not in all of gaming
Besides, while it is easy to avoid 1 rocket coming from one direction, it definitely isn't easy to avoid 10 rockets coming from 10 different directions, like in Plutonia and fan made maps.
Furthermore, I could 100% eat your ass in quake 1v1. Criticizing a game mechanic doesn't equal being bad at it.

>>9086890
>b-b-b-but
Cyberdemon rockets are easy to avoid, that's why they've put Lost Souls on the arena with him in the first game and gave you a big open space so you won't feel overwhelmed regardless
>b-b-but...
Nobody is saying that Cyberdemon is hard either, that's exactly why they put a bunch of them together when they are making
>Plutonia and fan made maps
and put a bunch of shit in a room with them to make it even harder
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but...
"Yeah, avoiding one Goomba is easy, but what if there was a map where there were 100 Goombas and they would come at you from 10 different directions?"
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but multiplayer?????
had a great kek about that one, thanks for that

>>9085108
Sound cues work even faster. There's no good reason to obscure the screen for that.

>>9087031
you said nothing. kys. I won't waste my time with you.

I have a suggestion, don’t play on Nightmare, it’s a joke difficulty.

>>9086890
>I could 100% eat your ass in quake 1v1
hahahahaha

>>9087107
Want to 1v1?

>>9087110
yeah what game

>>9086890
The virgin cope
>>9087031
The chad reply

>>9087031
>that's why they've put Lost Souls on the arena with him in the first game and gave you a big open space so you won't feel overwhelmed regardless
they put enemies in every boss battle. That is nothing new.
>that's exactly why they put a bunch of them together when they are making
And it becomes a shitshow of unfair red screen
>ah, avoiding one Goomba is easy, but what if there was a map where there were 100 Goombas and they would come at you from 10 different directions?"
Goomba and cyberdemons aren't the same.
>had a great kek about that one, thanks for that
Want to 1v1?

>>9087112
Blood

>>9084978
>punish the player for playing poorly
>reward the player for playing well
As it should go

>>9087138
Losing health should be the punishment.

>>9087210
Why don't you just fucking cope? Nobody else has complained about this but you, countless people have made it through Final Doom on UV but you can't deal with a tiny inconvenience like slightly reduced vision?

>>9087327
>Noooo you can't make a unique and new criticism to the game, only normie takes allowed ok???????

>>9087327
I'm not OP.

>>9087380
Unique doesn't equal good.

>>9087403
Doesn't matter.

>>9085108
Reminds me that Halo 2's hud was brilliant because the shield meter is above your radar, and most players will pay attention to at least one of those; in Halo 2 you will see both

My only issue with Doom and FPSs in general is head bobbing. I find it completely unnecessary, but at least it can be turned off easily.

>>9084978

>>9087514
Some people find it nausea inducing, so I guess it's nice that GzDoom lets you adjust viewbob and weaponbob, including to zero. Does any other port of Doom do that?

>>9086786
The fuck are you talking about? Have you played Blood recently? It's Hitscan: The game.

>>9087883
100% fair. Hitscan isn't a bad thing when you have competent devs and very overpowered weapons( especially the shotgun and the tnt)

>>9087478
>nobody else has complained about this
>that's not true
>doesn't matter
lol

>>9086742
>Demons also have an iq of 5 and are in great number, while doomguy is just one
If they're so dumb why are you eating rockets? Whiny bitch.

>>9088152
A toddler with a rocket launcher still dangerous
Your post shows the average iq of this board.

>>9088283
>can't beat a 3 year old in deathmatch
This is a problem with you, not the game.

>>9084978
OP you sound like a pussy. I bet if I grabbed your ass you wouldn't do anything about it.

>>9088378
The level of retardation, oh god.

>>9088398
I would show you my bussy and you would fuck me hard with the big greasy cock you have.

>>9088431
stop posting

>>9088560
So you are backing off now? Come here and let me suck you dry

>>9084998
this

>>9084978
t. Never played Breakdown.

>>9084978
That was actually a big help when I was playing through TNT on my friend's computer which didn't have any sound at all.
Obscuring the player's sight is a great way to awaken their survival instincts because it's about the most important of the senses.

>>9084978
Jealous of John Carmack the thread

>>9084978
getting flashbanged by a line of powerups is worse

>>9084978
just don't get hit bro, works for me

>>9086890
I can barely even do low tier slaughtermaps to completion and battling multiple Cyberdemons simultaneously is fucking easy. Clear the cyberdemons in GO 2 It with only your rocket launcher. Or better yet do it with only a shotgun, not even the SSG. If you go in flying with the BFG you'll nuke the fuck out of them at lightning speed. I make it a habit to clear GO 2 It every few months, and each cyberdemon fight is easy, barring only the one in the narrow cramped hallway.

Clear E2 M8 with just the pistol, max ammo allowed. Clear it with Shotgun, then chaingchanging. Clear maps that have more than one cyberdemon. Without BFG the Spider mastermind us infinitely harder than the cyberdemon because it's hitscan auto shotgun "super chaingun".

Cyberdemon is always easy.

>>9087031
>>9087113
samefag

>>9084978
I've seen tons of people getting filtered by Doom 3's screen shaking, but bitching about red screen tint is something else.
Also >>9085108 is right, the timing of red screen is perfectly calculated. Unnoticable when you make tiny mistakes like eating imp's fireball, more prevalent for serious cases like point-blank shotgun blast. Half-second bright red is only for real big fuckups (cyber rocket).

>>9087048
>OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW
>*dies*

>>9086786
They are even CHEAPER, please kys, duke's bosses are cheap cheeseable shit, enemies are mostly hi damage hitscanners because of their clunky ai, nothing even comes close to the revenant's wonderful rockets

>>9086753
Intelligence is defined as the ability to adapt to a situation. You failed that.

>>9084978
What if you changed your life and stopped being a waste of a human being who made faggot threads?

>>9086753
Uhh yes sure bro. Here's a thought why don't you play on "I'm too young to die" difficulty next time. That way a high IQ player such as yourself will have plenty of time to weigh your options about what to do when a rocket comes flying at your face.

>>9084978
It would increase the excitement and encourage you to not get hit. Especially if it only happened on particularly brutal high-damage attacks. Well done, John&John.

>>9093463
Cyberdemon was definitely not used in any particularly difficult manner in any of the original iD maps, but I think he has his utility if you think about what he can. I've played maps where multiple of them stalk you through a narrow labyrinth, and it's sweaty as FUCK, because you have so little room to dodge if you get in their line of fire.
Then there's that one map in Doom 64 which is a huge set of stairs in like the shape of an 8, and you've got this Cyberdemon chasing you, and what makes that level bust my ass is that every couple other steps teleports the bastard around effectively randoly so he can basically be anywhere at any moment.