/vr/ - Retro Games

It's...okay.

Well you liked Earthbound. Why not?

The first mother game uh... I wouldn't recommend it. It's basically Earthbound but worse. Maybe even too similar.

Mother 3 is a fucking masterpiece though, play it asap.

Mother 3 is a much better game.

Mother 1 is primitive as heck. Think of it as a a slightly prettier Dragon Quest.

Mother 3, on the other hand, is most definitely a masterpiece in both gameplay and storytelling. You won't be dissapointed.

>>908383
Mother 3 is linear and preachy, Mother 1 is the worst JRPG experience I ever had in my entire life. Both fall far below Earthbound.

>>908441
>Mother 3, on the other hand, is most definitely a masterpiece in both gameplay and storytelling.
Yeah, a linear droll with hippie-type "tv is evil, money is evil" splattered all over the script sure is a masterpiece.

Mother 3 is best described as A Beatles Album: The Game. If you're the kind of simpleton to take this sort of thing seriously, go for it.

I'd play Mother 1 up to the Duncan Factory at least. If you're still enjoying yourself after that dungeon then you can enjoy the rest of Mother 1.

>>908448
That is the best way to describe mother 3 I have ever heard. Really, it's more of a progressive's wet dream than an intellectual appeal like the second was. The real problem comes from the fact that most every loose end is tied up and the symbolism was sorely lacking.

>>908448
>>908471
Fuck your intellectual masturbatory complains, mother 3 was amazing.

And of course I made a thread without realizing there was an Earthbound thread already made, right there. I'll just paste my comment and delete it.

Alright, so I'm playing Zero and I'm infuriated by this game.

>insane amount of grinding
>inventory system that barely gives you information about the items you get, your PSI powers and such
>that enemy encounter ratio
>those bullshit enemies, like the Truck and the exploding oaks

Also I'm pretty sure I fucked up somehow, or was I supossed to get Sabe after all the Magicant shit, which by the way ended up in me getting to the normal world through the dungeon with the unfought (at least by me) dragon too soon? At fucking level 1 no less, with my Ninten being level 16. The hospital bills are ruining me while trying to train the fucker.

And yet I cannot help but appreciate the touches of humor and the unique world.

Mother is far too simplistic. The music is great, the story is alright but the premise is a bit too similar to Earthbound. Bit too grindy, far too many random encounters, and very very basic.

Play it if you're a fan of the original FF/DQ games. If you really want to play it and find it to hard, there is a patch that makes it less grindy and infuriating, but overall I'd say you're not missing out by not playing it.

>>908530
You didn't do anything out of order. He's supposed to be really underleveled. If I remember right he does level up faster than Ninten, but he's always going to a weak character when he's not flinging super bombs around.

>>908530
best to use an emulator and to use frame skipping to quicken level grinding and traveling.its the only way to enjoy this good game.

>>908383

if you're gonna play mother 3 just remember about the musical rhythm combo system (tab the button along to the beat to rack up extra hits)

the game doesn't even mention you can do it and I've known people who have played the whole game without even knowing about it

Also when the screen turns black at the end of the game the game isn't over. I've known people who've turned the game off after that and didn't see the full ending

>>908547
>>908540
>>908530
There's an EB hack in the works to remake Mother 1 in its entirety. http://earthboundcentral.com/?p=10933

>>908590
>the game doesn't even mention you can do it

Except it does...

>>908596
no it doesn't
the manual doesn't count

>>909328
At the graveyard it does.

I did a screen shot run of it for a forum years back.

>>909328
>the manual doesn't count
Nigga what? People like you are why I have to put up with the bullshit Sphere Grid and Weapon Customization tutorials in Final Fantasy X, even though they're fucking obvious.

>>908441
>a masterpiece in both gameplay

The gameplay was total Drag-on Quest on NES tier shit

>>909328
I'm sorry, but a manual is part of the game.
Or are you just that retarded?

>>909351
>Drag-on

I just started a Mother 3 playthrough. I tried playing through Earthbound a while ago, but I didn't really like it. I quit around Twoson.

Anyways, holy shit, this game is great. Aesthetics are fantastic, specifically the stunningly well-made music. I'm not absolutely fond of the artstyle, personally, but the art is tied together well. Gameplay is standard RPG fare; I'd probably like it more if I could get a handle on combos. The story is great, though the anti-consumerist BS is heavy-handed and doesn't really add to the experience so much as detract from it.

On chapter 5 right now.

>>908465
This. You have to go so far before you decide to quit. Personally, I like the damn game. I don't see the hate.

>>909429
>mother 3 music
>good

it was crap quality since its GBA and some do really sound horrible , like the save game song

i really wish the OST was remade though, i don't like many mother 3 themes but the few good ones are really beautiful

>>908471
taking videogames seriously

>>909680
oops i was replying to
>>908448

>>908471

>intellectual appeal like the second was

People actually believe this? Is this some sort of joke?

>>908465

>mfw I just reached the Duncan Factory

I've been grinding to make my Sabe reach level 15, not giving up now just for some measly PK Beams and confusing layouts.

>>908530
>>insane amount of grinding
>>inventory system that barely gives you information about the items you get, your PSI powers and such
>>that enemy encounter ratio
>>those bullshit enemies, like the Truck and the exploding oaks

you just described every NES RPG ever, what the hell were you expecting?

>>909398
maybe it counts if you speak japanese

>>908383
I recently finished Mother and am now playing Earthbound for the first time.

If you have already beaten Earthbound I would say no. I tend to grind a lot in RPGs but Mother was pretty ridiculous with random encounters and leveling requirements

>>909345
>>909398
the manual is in japanese you fools

>>909345
hah, when I was a kid I made it all the way to the air dragon on the al bhed ship without levelling once, because I had no idea how the sphere grid works. Needless to say, the game became laughably easy when I invested those 60 or so levels. Still it was dumb on my part.

Does anyone have a link to the complete 240 page Mother 3 fan handbook?

Does anyone know any games that someone would enjoy after playing Earthbound, I was thinking Chrono Trigger since I still havent beaten it, would that be a good idea ?

>>911236
you can try contact for the weirdness, I've been playing denpa men lately, but that's for 3ds plays like dragon quest, which mother is similar to anyway.

>>911236
Startropics is kinda earthbound-esque as far as setting and mood.

>>911260
MAH NIGGA