/vr/ - Retro Games

Yep. You nailed it. Well done.

Guy's just been chilling out in Antarctica building mechs and robots.

>>904827
>Guy's just been chilling out in Antarctica building mechs and robots.

Could the Führer be any more awesome?

Ghadius was a pretty cool villain. The boss battle had great variety, although it is sadly so easy.

I know he's not the best written villain in RPG history (such are Final Fantasy villains mirite), but you gotta admire how much he enjoys being a massive cunt.

>>904827
He looks so much better with the sunglasses on.

What a cheeky little cunt.

Gary Oak has gotten the best of me a few times.

Ur-Quan

Kane's pretty awesome. A visionary and madman.

I know many people don't like KH but Xemnas is douche and really russled my jimmies

This guy.

>>905167
how i hate this damn guy always brings up this non retro stuff everytime he cans, the other day he was posting some FFXII stuff, i have nothing against the games but he knows what he's doing very well

>>905205
OH sorry this is my very first time on this board
how about this guy?

>>905049
He's by far the best example of a "watch the world burn" villain.

And he won.

Came out in April of 2000 but fuck you it's retro.
Yuna from Breath of Fire IV.

>>905297
>Singing and Dancing
I was laughing a bunch at that section.

>>905109
my nigga

this mofo

fuckin' wolf

I liked the Master from Fallout, because he was rational.

couldn't find a better image

>>905085

gary if from the anime

you mean Green/Blue

>>905625

you fucked up

old Waltie is awesome too!

How about villains that aren't just cardboard-cutout mustache-twiddlers? I found Suikoden 1 more compelling than 2 in part because Luca Blight was such an unbelievable cartoon. How about the Gargoyles in Ultima 6, or Batlin in Ultima 7? WRT Kefka, part of what I think is great about him as a villain was how clownish he seems early on, which makes the following events much more shocking. I read that he wasn't as much like that in the original Japanese script, so that's kind of interesting.

>>905270
>>905049
>he's by far the best example of watch the world burn villain
and he's a terrible example of that.
>he won
Except he was defeated and the world was literally restored to balance. You can even see people rebuilding at the end and cheering, versus lamenting in agony as their heroes failed to deliver them.

Final Fantasy VII's original ending, at least believed by sakaguchi till the Advent Children bullshit was that the -planet- won, over riding both humanity and sephiroth/jenova.

>>905382
Also a better villain than Kefka.
>>905201
Again.
>>904827
Same.
>>904689
Best.

As far as that whole "watching the world burn thing" as much as I love TDK, the way I view people accepting Kefka as the best villain of retro gaming is like a pseudo film critic saying "da jokah" was the greatest antagonist in movie history, ever. Kefka is the go to "popular" choice. Even Ghaleon (pic related) Sega CD or PS1 has far more depth and appeal, but alas
>popularity

>>906245
>Gargoyles in Ultima 6
They could have been interesting if they did more than occupy the shrines and eat all the horses. The confrontation in the finale was resolved too quickly.
The shadow lords or fellowship could be felt throughout Britannia.

This game has a lot of antagonists I like, actually. But this guy's an excellent example of a "regular guy". He couldn't do anything special, other than hate on everyone "beneath" him, and that's what made him such a dick.

>>906245
>the less believable the more compelling
what?
seriously... what?

>>906245
do you have a widescreen version of that wallpaper?

>>906245
>Luca was so unbelievable!
>BUT KEFKA, LET ME DEEPTHROAT THAT CLOWN COCK OF A GOD, TRUE DEPTH AND COMPLETELY BELIEVABLE
I hate people like you so very much.

It's pretty obvious he is the most evil entity in the world of Zelda, just powerless.

>>906361
what? he explicitly said that he liked both BECAUSE they were unbelievable.
Read entire posts before freaking out next time please

>>905382

Daily reminder that Yuna got away with it.

If nothing else, gotta respect Kefka for calling out rpgs for being a self help book after a power of hope and friendship speech.

Sadly damn near 20 years later jrpgs ARE STILL DOING IT.

>>906438
>He says he liked both, you idiot!
No, you dumb shit, re-read his fucking post.
>I found Suikoden 1 more compelling than 2 in part because Luca Blight was such an unbelievable cartoon.
>Suikoden 1 more compelling
>Implying Luca was in Suikoden 1
>"Kefka, ..great about him as a villain
>not knowing how to read

>>906471
>He called out rpgs
No, he didn't. The self help book line was just the translator's quirp
>villains insulting friendship and hope
Nothing fucking remotely new about this concept in JRPGs. This didn't happen in the Lufia series, it didn't happen in Suikoden, it didn't happen in Grandia or Grandia 2, it didn't happen in BoF IV or V or Dragon Quarter, it didn't happen in Xenogears of Final Fantasy Tactics, it didn't happen in Valkyrie Profile or Tactics Ogre, it didn't happen in phantasy star IV or even Chrono Cross. Where are these games that "THE CHAMPION OF FLOWERY FRIENDSHIP AND HOPE OVERCOMING ALL ODDS" which Final Fantasy VI -doesn't do at all-?
>sadly jrpgs are STILL DOING IT
Final Fantasy VI was not innovative in any fucking way for this concept. How the fuck did Terra and Celes and the gang beat Kefka? What innovative way did they trump the final boss that hadn't been done in previous Final Fantasies? In fact, the very ending is based on friendship and comradery and "not giving up", so I don't know where the fuck you got this idea that Final Fantasy VI is some magical antithesis to JRPG tropes.

(Insert Isaac Hayes music here)

>>906245
Luca isn't even remotely unbelievable, even by reality standards. He was traumatized as a kid to the point of becoming a psychopath, but his royal blood meant that he got away with nearly everything demented he did for fear of the King's retribution.

As relentless and cruel as the acts committed may be, he has a solid reasoning behind his actions. He watched his mother get raped by men who were hired by the country that he so despised, so these were not completely random acts of murder.

I would never argue that he was a complex character, but to call him a cartoon is pretty silly.

Necrosaro from Dragon Warrior/Quest IV. He was incredibly fleshed out with his backstory and motives for a NES villain, even better than most SNES and PSX villains.

And he actually is the final boss

>>904689
I fucking hate this douchebag Toyotomi in Ayumi's route of YU-NO.
>makes the workers operate in area where workers are struck by lightning
>gets the entire town to blame Ayumi after one of the lightning strikes
>acts nice to her in order to get into her pants
>treats Takuya like a child
>hires Yakuza to attack Ayumi and steal important documents to sell to a competing company
>has her so wrapped around his thumb that he not only molests her at work but also NTRs her in the Takuya's own house while kicking said MC out
>drives Ayumi to suicide after he spills the beans to her in the bad ending
What makes his actions even more rageworthy is how much of a nimrod Takuya is in this route when he says shit like "HURR THIS GUY'S DEFINITELY SUSPICIOUS EVEN THOUGH HE OBVIOUSLY IS DOING THIS SHIT TO YOU."

Ryuuzouji, rather the impostor posing as Ryuuzouji is a pretty evil enough guy who kills his mother, rapes Mitsuki, rapes Eriko in the bad end, AND kills Ayumi in the stupid final epilogue. But for me, Toyotomi hits where it really hurts while making you feel like you can't do shit about it as a player until the end.

>>907802
I liked his remake name, Psaro the Manslayer.

>>907849
I hated it. It's sounds too Rurouni Kenshin-ish. I see this guy every time I hear that name.

Necrosaro was a clever way of bypassing NoA's censorship of death and is closer to his Japanese name, Death Pisaro (デスピサロ).

For a series with such cookie cookie bad guys, I'm surprised Nintendo got away with this nignog.

Steals away the protagonist's wife, bangs her, murders the protagonist and half his friends, then rules as a emperor for at least a decade, bringing great prosperity to the world and uniting them as one.

Granted, he got played by some shitty cartoon villain cult who actually set him up with his half-sister, then let his empire go to shit after possessing his son with an ancient dark dragon god. Then he gets offed by the son of the protagonist who he murdered.

Then we realize that he set up his own death intentionally, letting a magical legendary weapon fall into the hero's hands. We're not even allowed to truly hate him, because they play him up as some unwilling pawn of a greater (and boring) evil.

>>906349
...Are you serious? Make your desktop background colour black then apply the wallpaper centred, you won't be able to tell where the wallpaper ends because it's all bloody black!

Does this guy count? Because you sure start to hate him after awhile.

>>906275
Kefka is clearly the best villain just for how much he made you feel like you had to type all that shit just to prove how fucking hipster you are about videogames.

Best motive ever.

>>908089
>hipster
calling out faggots for shit taste has nothing to do with hipsters. In fact, deepthroating kefka is a hipster trait, but I wouldn't dare question an expert such as yourself on how best to take a hot dicking down a windpipe.
>>908092
My nigger.

>>908075
and evil otto will be small as fuck... damn you are stupid

>>907767
exactly. As to how that guy remotely found Luca to be
>mustache twirly
but Kefka not is beyond me.
>Kefka's motive
I'M CUHRAZY BECAUSE SUPER SOLDIER SERUM WENT BAD LOL DESTROY DA WORLD

>Luca's motive
the crimes of war make him return the favor.
mustache twirl

Hi.

>>908103
I think kefka sums up pretty well the whole "if you mess with nature and shit, you're gonna get catastrophe'd" FF moral.

I feel it is only right to add him to the mix. Though he is the reason i needed new Nes Paddle`s....

>>908085
Yea i would agree with you there...

>>908127
Fuck yeah, Mother Brain.

My favorite thing about MB is the implication that all the life on Zebes is hostile because she psychically manipulates it to hate intruders.

My personal fanon about Mother Brain is that she wasn't even interested in trying again to weaponize metroids during the events of Super Metroid. She was just trying to lure Samus in to have close, personal vengeance for what happened to her in their first encounter. Of course, she had a backup plan in case she failed to turn Samus into dust: blow up the whole Goddamned planet with Samus in the deepest, most secure section of their base, assuming she'd not be able to escape again. Of course, MB never told the Space Pirates that she had set up such a powerful explosive.

This asshole. Because he was completely convinced he was doing the right thing.

>>908190
When you look at it, Krelian didn't murder millions in his quest to "create God", he tried to run the world as peacefully as possible.
Chances are, if you removed the Solaris puppeteers from the government below, even more wars would be instigated and almost certainly more death.

Granted, his initial solution to it all is pretty bonkers, but I much prefer him to the majority of villains.

Goes from a fairly calm and collected threat as a high-ranking military officer into a crazy and desperate rival as time goes on. Kinda like Seifer in FFVIII if he didn't roll over and let you curbstomp him every battle.

Not saying Ramsus was hard, but the plot actually set him up as a better nemesis, I think.

>>906275
Well he did obliterate all magic. Gotta give him credit there. My vote goes for Luca Blight though.

>>909205
No, anon, YOU obliterated all magic. And then anon was a pantywaist clown.

>>908092

Banging valkyrie pussy? Works for me!

>>907839
>tfw the only opportunity you could actually beat the shit out of him is in the Bad Ending.

>>906245
Luc in Suikoden 3 > Ol' Blightly. not 'cause he's evil but 'cause he just so existential and dreamy... i would fuck him both ways if i had b-genitals like lady gaga!!!

>>905201
Zio began my unhealthy obsession with pauldrons.

Psi Shield

The best silent antagonist of all times.

>>906309

Algus was a cunt. I wish you didn't have to save him from those thieves. GG no RE

>>909965
Luc wasn't even existential.
He wanted to blow up the world because he saw a future that involved a blown up world.
One of the dumbest motives in JRPG villain history.

Play Tactics Ogre: knights of lodis and then Tactics Ogre: LUTC for PSP.

Watching the protagonist turn into an antagonist is fantastic, considering how loose the moral line is in both.

>>907802
>thumbnail looks like an overenthusiastic woman in an apron

>>908190
Where did this pic come from? At that rez?

>>911516
>that functional, realistic but stylish armor
Why can't JRPGs all do this? There is no need for pizza cutters and belts.

>>905489
Now you're talking my language

Something about incredibly powerful, driven wizards who's actions are all but incomprehensible to mere mortals like myself just really hit the spot in terms of villainy.

>>904689
I... well no..?
Yes...

OP just killed his own thread when there's nothing to top Luca Blight.

>>911519
Google

>>910159

I agree. That piano was such a dick in Super Mario 64.

>>911526
It's a fairly reasonable politics-driven story (for the most part) so any other kind of armor design would be inappropriate.

Wacky designs are good if they fit the overall setting, which in the case, many JRPGs are.

>>910159
Came into the thread to post this.

AW SHIT IT'S COMING AT US

REPPUKEN!

>>916046

GENOCIDE CUTTAH!

Seriously speaking, the only thing these two guys(and hell, ANY final boss from SNK games) were best at was being cheap as fuck and causing untold levels of rage. Seriously, fuck 'em all.

>>915347
awsome fight.

i really panicked a little bit while he was getting bigger and bigger. wasn't able to hit him anymore

>>905489
My favorite. God damn pompous asshole. Was just dying to whip his ass so bad. Actually great villain you love to hate.
>>916058
Fuck this motherfucker.