/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
See picture for details
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129989

400 MINUTES OF /vr/
Idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/400minvr

VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ (Latest)

=== NEWS ===
[07-01] Sonic Mayhem Is teasing a Quake 2 Announcement
https://twitter.com/quakecomposer/status/1542567262338527232

[06-30] vkquake 1.20.0 released
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.20.0

[06-27] GZDoom 4.8.1 is out, reintroducing the console scaling feature and fixing some bugs
https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/releases/latest

[06-27] Nugget-Doom released, adding a bunch of QoL/casual features on top of Woof! 10.0.3
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/latest

[06-26] Demon Throne 3.0 is out
https://www.moddb.com/games/wgrealms-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VevjVqsgBII

[06-24] Semi-public release for Unreal 227j patch
https://www.oldunreal.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=10395

[06-24] TrenchBroom 2022.1 released
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2022.1

[06-21] Anon shares a Plutonia WAD
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129897

[06-20] Hands of Necromancy released on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1898610

[06-18] Woof! 10.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/post/2509207

[06-16] Altars of Madness released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129616

[06-15] Shamus Young passed away from cardiac arrest
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129781

[06-11] The Force Engine 1.0 beta is almost done with hardware rendering
https://twitter.com/DF21net/status/1535642950939574277

[06-11] Pico Doom updated to 1.5
https://youtu.be/WORdFS8nU9k

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

First.

Forgive me doom. for i am once more playing hexen the way n64 wanted.
by the way i wish someone had modded the PS1 cutscenes back to PC as a addon, but adding MP4 or MKV support is too difficult for graf.

What is the best source port for quake?

>>9055457
Depends on what you want.
>just a good sourceport that will run everything
Quakespasm
>the same but you can set it up to look oldschool
Ironwail
>fancy lighting and graphical effects
Darkplaces

>>9055463
Huh? Ironwail is a superset of Quakespasm and much faster to boot, if you can run it you always should (the meme oldschool effects are optional and not even enabled by default). In terms of mod compatibility it's identical to Quakespasm.
vkQuake also stems from Quakespasm and has support for some advanced mod features (custom HUDs and particles), otherwise very close (filters textures by default which is a sin though). It's my default engine to play mods/maps, for the HUDs and particles (and the performance - it's also a lot faster than Quakespasm).
Darkplaces is kinda abandoned since 2014 (dev trooned out - literally), many new mods including Arcane Dimensions just won't work on it anymore. If you need a "kitchen sink" engine (disregarding all taste), FTEQW is essentially your only option.
The "KEX engine" Steam rerelease port is kind of broken - worse compatibility than Quakespasm, trouble with framerates over 60, not that fast. Not really interesting in my opinion. It does have some fancy shadow effects, but nothing major. It also has steamworks multiplayer and a horde mode if you're into that (Quakespasm and derivatives can play the horde maps to some extent).
And then there are specialty engines (Mark V, JoeQuake which is mostly used by speedtrannies) and multiplayer (quakeworld-based) engines.

>>9055501
quake has shitty filtering because no one ever bothered to add da better option for it
so is all bilinear or trilinear that doesn't work on higher res

>>9055453
Is that so?

>>9055505
You can bruteforce the filtering using supersampling. Combined with nearest filtering it looks quite good.

>>9055508
Now how long until someone does it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAV0bhqwSJo

>>9055515
Yamagi added a upscale option for it that looks nice and doesn't overstay its welcome that much.
i just forgot the line under q2config for it.

There's the weekend events here for Doom and Serious Sam but is it possible to have events for HD?

>>9055581
>and Serious Sam
Blessed "Serious Business Saturdays" already getting noticed.
That said, like those events, if you want them started you'll hafta take the first steps yourself. I dunno' if it's technically possible to run HD multiplayer, but if so, "is it possible to have events for X?" isn't the correct question, so much as asking for a show of hands or something to gauge interest.

>>9055581
Events here get little players as is, I'd imagine trying to get even 1 other person to go through the horrid process of setting up GZD multiplayer along with hideous destructor and any potential addons would be substantially harder

>>9055408
UPDATE
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2022/06/30/join-the-quake-4-xbox-insider-preview/
Quake IV also hinted to have a Remaster too

Stroggbros, we are coming home!

Another month, another /vr/mondo post. If you have no idea what this is, it's a year long project I'm trying out with basically no rules. Make anything and submit it at any time.

The /vr/ Mondo Project is a rip-off of the Doomworld Mega Project series. The purpose of the project to encourage creativity and bolster /vr/ as a mapping and modding community.
RULES:
- Submit as times as you would like by the end of 2022. Updates are allowed.
- Any kind of playable custom content for any DOOM IWAD is considered a valid submission. Maps, gameplay mods, etc.
- Include the phrase "/vr/ Mondo Project" with your submission so that I can find them all.

The submissions will be compiled into a zip with each submission given its own folder. Please include a txt with some information about how to play your submission and credits for any resources used.
I will be reposting this at the start of each new month. Please do not add this project to the news post.

>>9055581
HD?

What caused the recent spike in interest for HD? Did some e-celeb play it?

Another post about 94 protons.
Should I look at another textures or is brown fine?

My whole set of ideas was enough for like 2 rooms, but when I'll be done with them, they'll be fun rooms.

>>9055687
It's a good mod.

>>9055698
Brown is love. Brown is sex.

>>9055684
Hideous Destructor, aka "Fuck you it's STALKER time" for DOOM. It's basically a TC that takes refuge in realistic audacity. You are not Doomguy, you are one of those marine corpses he finds before it's a corpse. You're slowed down to human norms, can easily die in one shotgun blast and have to deal with wounds in a realistic manner, manage your supplies at a level /k/ommandos only enjoy. Oh and you're still fighting the legions of hell, and they know new tricks. The only mercy is that they have to deal with the same wound system you do. So disemboweling a baron of hell with a rocket grenade is gonna royally fuck him up.

It's building a following as a co-op mod since thats easily the best way to play it. Solo is insanely fucking hard for many reasons. Only play if you're a masochist as it will stomp your dick until you learn things.

>>9055698
I think those white bricks contrast a bit too much. And maybe get some grey/brown metal in there as supports instead of more brown brick.

>>9055708
Brown is SHIT.

>>9055581
Can't hurt to try. It'll be a pain in the ass to get a more sizeable modlist synced, so just to test the waters we'll start small. I'm hosting a game on GZDoom 4.8.1 for four people with these files, in this order:
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/j-l/kuchitsu
https://codeberg.org/mc776/hideousdestructor/archive/main.zip
The address to connect to is 100.10.1.125.
If you've never done GZDoom multiplayer before, start by forwarding port 5029 in your router, then either use a launcher like ZDL or the -join command line argument to connect. Set your loadout by starting a singleplayer game before connecting.
I'll leave the game up until it's full enough to start, unless we spend an especially long time at 3/4, then I'll rehost for three.

>>9055760
>setup right before shift starts
fuck, well when I get back I’ll see how this went over

>>9055771
I'll be here all night. I don't exactly expect it to take off instantly.

>>9048601
if you're still here, latest build of gzdoom on drd fixed the a_playsoundex issue.

Speaking of weekly events, Serious Business Saturday will not be happening tomorrow. I'm going to be too busy all day saturday. I'll repost this tomorrow whenever I can.

>>9055737
>Only play if you're a masochist as it will stomp your dick until you learn things.

The best way to jump in is Naturist so you have to beat up a zombie to take his gun.

Sewer mapfag here, I mapped myself into a corner and I don't know how to continue here. Ran out of ideas.

>>9055836
room with a big "turbine" of sorts to process the sewage

>>9055665
Any decent Quake IV ports? I imagine the original still runs kinda OK (I have some memories of having to adjust picmic manually because it autodetects toaster settings), but it was locked at 60fps.
Thinking about it, Quake IV may benefit from a tasteful remaster. Some of the textures were extraordinarily shitty even for the time, id Tech 4 was too much for poor Raven (R.I.P.) to handle.

>>9055752
Maybe. I want this area to contrast but there's always something to repaint.

>>9055501
>dev trooned out - literally
Can I get some details or TL;DR on that?
>>9055665
>>9055856
Uh-h-h... Technically, we can't talk about that game here as it isn't retro. But we have talk about Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, who is also in Xbox Insider Preview.
That's not a sign of a re-release like Quake or classic DOOM titles got in recent years. They're just preparing those two for Game Pass.

>>9055861
Quake 4 came out in 2005, it's allowed now.

>>9055863
Mods here became more strict with this shit and here's what it says on the matter:
>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted). The Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and Sony PlayStation 2 will now be considered "retro".
The game in question is Xbox 360 launch title, so it's not allowed.

>>9055872
Oh, whoops, thought it was for PC first.

>>9055872
you are incredibly retarded when the game came to PC first and it was discussed here in the past and the janitors were ok because it was a PC game, tourist-kun.

>>9055856
Someone was porting Quake 4 into Dhewm 3 fork
https://github.com/jmarshall23/Quake4Doom

it works but is janky.

Is there a simplistic way when making a map to check what custom textures I've used and save them into the .wad file? I have been using textures from a variety of texture wads and I want to send my map to a friend for playtesting. It's going to be autistic to do this manually. I've done it before and I'm wondering if maybe I'm a retard and there's a better way.

>>9055905
SLADE can delete unused textures. Not sure if it can somehow import used ones. But you can import all, then remove unused.

>>9055508
Is raze better than the other build sourceports? asking for a friend.

>>9055408
DBP49 is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130049

Thankfully this one wasn't made by a dementia induced weirdo

>>9055515
how u volumetric fog tho

What happened to that anon making wiki pages for the /vr/ megawads? Last I remember he wanted to make HFFM and 300 Minutes pages and it looks like that hasn't happened.

Oh shit...
That means I can join DBP50 now, right?
Way-go, brah-brah!

>>9055861
I don't know what details you want.
1. Last release is build 2014-05-13
2. Original author - find the difference:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200115163640/https://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/
https://web.archive.org/web/20200130123352/https://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/
3. Current maintainer:
https://github.com/Cloudwalk9
https://steamcommunity.com/id/cptdavid
Of course none of this means anything really, but the fact is you're currently going to have a bad time running modern mods on it, until they bother to shit up a release.

>>9055956

God dammit niggertits I swear I clicked the fucking post number.
>>9055940
Nice, this also means I can start looking at DBP#50 now, too, right? Fukken aces.
>Emerald City
Blessed lunchlunch

>>9055956
>need hd mod map vr
true

>>9055956
>help nukem

>>9055939
Nah. It feels really weird IMO, it's like playing a facsimile of Build games within a GZDoom wrapper. I like GZDoom but playing Build games using GZDoom's rendering is just extremely odd.

Personally my go-to sourceports for the Build holy trinity are:
>NBlood
>eduke32
>VoidSW

>>9055956
>need hd mod map /vr/
>brutal room
>perfectly fucked
>grenade throne

>>9055997
That looks really cool.

>>9055940
Never mind his poor taste in movies and explosive behavior, which was most surely ironic, that was just millennial having fun.

You better answer me this anon: 3rd and 7th maps were made by teen who writes grammatically poor Sonic x Doomguy fanfics in pastime, can you prove yourself better? I found them much more exciting and intricate than 40oz' recent style of railroaded languid experience.

>>9056027
>Spoiler
I'm getting tired of these small time maps too. I want my UAC Ultra 2 already

>>9055940
Looks cool as heck.
Also
>-REDACTED
Lmao.

>>9056038
Brings out question of why he still hasn't put Ultra or Mutiny resources for month's project. More than decade has passed since making Ultra, is it him being cautious of losing creative steam or people's negative reaction?

>>9056059
That's hilarious. Looks like "DBP48 doesn't exist" is going to be a recurring series gag like Postal 3.

Thoughts on Ashes 2063? I love pre-Bethesda Fallout, Mad Max and STALKER but the idea of a Doom TC that combines all of them seems like a mess.

>>9056089
It does not combine anything its is own thing. Just with some inspirations.

Its a legit full game with great levels, story and action. And free.

>>9056093
Cool, is there any reason to download the Standalone package over just loading the .pk3s on the latest GZDoom? Does it just not work with 4.8.x or non-Freedoom assets?

Why exactly is MAP08 considered to be so good? Is it not just a shitty gimmick map with half of the rooms not even being necessary to beat it? Does being gimmicky alone justify it?

HAPPY CANADA DAY, FRAGGOTS, IT'S TIME FOR FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT! For this session, we'll be revisiting Vex ZDaemon. You know what to do
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

>>9056089
>Thoughts on Ashes 2063?
It's good.

>>9056068
Dude was almost instantly and simultaneously tackled by the vultures from DW cabal before his release thread's been shortly deleted, subsequent reaction of his is no less overblown than of mocking masses. Nearly looks like a plain malice pertaining forum communities.

>>9056101
There is a standalone package now? I guess its the same.

I would recommend Alien Eradication, also an amazing campaign with some really neat level design.

Those Alien trilogy sprites and atmosphere are great.

>>9056126
Are you going to ignore the fact that the OP also tried to stir up shit by linking past DBP37 drama threads? Maybe the initial response wasn't in good faith, but OP was no better.
Of course, this conversation is meaningless without proof, it's just "he said" stuff.

>>9055737
That sounds badass

>>9055818
this, trial by fire baby

HD would make for a great standalone game honestly , but keep the supernatural elements and monsters.


It would probably make the most perfect Delta Green game ever and make sandy happy.

>>9056148
>Of course, this conversation is meaningless without proof, it's just "he said" stuff.
Amen, better get back to something meaningful.

>>9056059
These look like maps to play GMOTA on.

>>9056089
As someone who also loves pre-Bethesda Fallout, it's awesome. The HUD is dope.

>>9056175
This is an HD mod idea I've been toying with for a time. I don't have a good idea of what makes a good Doom level let alone a good HD one but I've still been messing with it. I would definitely add moments like where you'd be rewarded for destroying the environment, kind of like Diabplus Ex but less inadvertently/unintentionally.

HD guns ordered by how fun they are to shoot (not necessarily by usefulness), descending order from funnest to least funnest.

SMG (auto)
Hunter
Brontornis
Vulcanette
BFG
Thunder Buster
Rocket launcher
Slayer
ZM66
Revolver
Grenade launcher
Liberator
Boss rifle
Pistol

>>9056218
Auto-pistol is more fun than the SMG, and a custom chamber boss should be up there with the Hunter. As far as baseline stock weapons, Thunder Buster is way too low.

I should make a Boss rifle loadout. I haven't used it much but I like bolt-actions.

>>9056251
Make sure it's custom chamber unless you want to clean it every 10 shots only for it to jam on you anyway.

>>9056258
>find boss in field
>already have custom chamber, just stripping it for ammo
>unload the magazine
>pull the bolt to empty the chamber
>jams

>>9056273
>find boss
>pull the bolt to check if it's custom chamber
>jams
I guess not.
Custom chambers cycle faster, for anyone who doesn't know.

>>9056258
Yeah, I saw the setting in the manual. Bullet drop compensation is a bit confusing. I tested on the range and leaving it at 300 or setting it to 0 didn't seem to change anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDfJu27Ctp4

>>9056278
Bullet drop compensation only really matters at extreme ranges (try placing shots on the far wall of the range with different settings and compare them) I prefer zero, with front reticle, then I just use the rangefinder and the notches on the scope to know where I need to aim.

>>9051720
Uh, sorry for replying late. I can get the megawads I want to play working and its pretty vanilla. When I want more and I decide what that means and find an incompatibility issue I guess I'll dive deeper but for now it just works. "it" being Gzdoom 2.8.1 I guess the exe just says zdoom.

Map32 of 400 minutes of /vr/. Probably my favorite map of the wad.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1ViJfXONWi8

>>9056285
Do you bother with the auto reloader at all? I'm noticing 7.76 clips aren't too rare when looting.

>>9056308
With the Boss you're basically never going to need it. Unless you've utterly destroyed your item pools with a million mods and Ugly as Sin scarcity, it's not even going to be possible for you to shoot more rounds than you find.

>>9056308
Nah, 7.76 isn't as rare as its reputation would lead you to believe, especially if you're not using addon weapons and bloating your ammo pool. Plus the Boss enforces trigger discipline compared to the Liberator, which I think is why the "7.76 is rare" meme got so popular, too many people going full retard with bullets that one-shot most things anyway.

>>9056312
That's about what I figured. I don't even have Scarcity turned on.

Does anyone know the website which hosted a mod that made doom/doom 2 just harder in general? I believe a major feature was that enemies had much better pathfinding, and it may have also had things like different attack patterns for enemies.

>>9056336
Babel?
https://babel-mod.neocities.org/

>>9056338
Maybe? I swear I recall improved monster AI, in regards to pathfinding, was specifically mentioned on the site...

>>9056218
For me it's

Hunter (full auto)
Pistol (both types)
Hunter (pump)
Hunter (slamfire)
Slayer
Brontoris
Vulcanette
SMG (single shot)
Revolver
Hunter (Semi)
Liberator
Boss Rifle
ZM66
Grenade Launcher
Rocket Launcher
Thunder Buster
BFG

>>9056218

Thunderbuster
Rocket Launcher
Vulc (Full auto BRRRRT)
BFG
Bronto
Slayer
Hunter
Revolver
Grenade Launcher
SMG
Pistol
Lib
Boss
ZM66

>>9056336
Sounds like Babel to me, but you'll only see this general talking about it most of the time

>>9055408
https://github.com/DreamyCecil/SamExePatch

>>9056089
It's great and Afterglow even better, one of the best mods ever.

>>9055406
Doom 64 for GameBoy Advance

If you want to try:
https://pastebin.com/mbLgCxsm

Most levels work but some are broken, I've included a save file with some early levels to jump over broken ones.
I might look into fixing the few broken levels.

>>9056572
gay

>>9055408
>[07-01] Sonic Mayhem Is teasing a Quake 2 Announcement
he posted in youtube he is releasing a vinyl

>>9055665
I hope it comes with an expansion, it's the only id game without one

>>9055760
Finally got 3/4 here now. If anyone else wants to get in, now's the time.

>>9056615
it's a raven game

>>9056612
he said on twitter that August has another tease too.
Reminder that SIN remastered is also a quake 2 engine game, so workin on the original is needed too.

>>9056623
Aw shit, Hdest main updated since you posted that, I assumed it was already done.

>>9056626
Nah, I closed it and reopened it when I saw the update since I had no players waiting at that time.

>>9056624
how does this stops id from commissioning an expansion to other studio?

>>9056628
ACK!

>>9056638
It might be having an issue because the game was open for so long. I'll try rebooting the game, so try and rejoin quickly.

>>9056641
This kind of thing really isn't conducive to being organized through an imageboard, but I'm still willing to try.

>>9056629
just pointing out that it's not "the only" if you're gonna count non-id-made non-id-published games.
personally I think re-releases are a scam, same as sequels and addons made by people unrelated to the original. but Q4 is shit anyway, so whatever.
also putting rumor of a teaser of an announcement in the newspost is a new low.

>>9055760
Aw I JUST saw this now. Is it already too late?

>>9055408
vkquake 1.20.1 released
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.20.1
>Fix a bug that could cause random lockups with 1.20.0
>Fix screenshot crash
>Fix corruption if new vkquake.pak is missing or old one is still in place
>Fix crash on Linux distributions with low stack size (e.g. musl based)

>For instance, if you know you will always prefer reliability over damage per shot, you can add bos customchamber to this string

Wait, so using the custom chamber means less damage? Not that this means I'm not still going to do it, just need clarification.

Also I just used the reloader for giggles and holy shit that's impractical. Cute, but impractical. Would be cuter and maybe worth using if it were a tiny Kustam that vomited bullets. Is there any difference between normal and recast rounds?

>>9056742
You could just make a sprite replacement for the reloader, it'd be pretty trivial. If memory serves right, recast rounds have less velocity and penetration.

Tarns is streaming 512 Linedefs of /vr/
https://www.twitch.tv/tarnsmandw

>>9056694
Technically the custom chamber causes bullet velocity to drop somewhat, but it's still 7.76. It's still going to oneshot everything man-sized pretty much. It's around the same level of performance as a normal Liberator if anything. Jam-prone Bosses tend to do better after penetrating a wall or a shield in comparison, but both will still kill a man wearing green after doing that anyway.

>>9056742
Recast rounds tend to jam the boss a bit more. Not sure if there's any reliability issues with using recasts with the liberator. Attempting to recast reused rounds tends to fail more often because the brass ends up brittle and frail due to all the abuse. I guess it helps to curb the whole "turning 4.26 into infinite 7.76" strategy.

GGs boys, no party wipes, no desyncs, and a pretty good connection for four anons from anywhere. I'll be happy to host again for you guys any time.

Things I learned today:
The new GZDoom version displays ENDOOM in fullscreen now instead of in a window
The new Hideous Destructor gets rid of spiritual armor and the reminder of how much blood loss you need to die
Doomguy is a lot shorter than I realized
co-op is fun

Good game, lads. I don't play enough multiplayer to flex there as hard as I do in SP, aim lag is a bitch, but it was fun.

>>9056821
>climbs up to a window and then rollspins through to get to the other side
Man, that'll never stop being cool

>>9055956
>cyberdemon disable idgames
>retard fury

Player, buddy, have a look at this video for future reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSssmjAE7xI
You gotta at least know how to fix yourself when you're fucked up.

>>9056834
it was funny watching his big ass march through hallways while not noticing or being affected by it

>>9056843
My favorite was him not realizing how to climb a ladder while huge.

>>9056853
>pimp slapping an arch vile to death
I imagine there was alot more hunting and potshots involved but damn if that ain't a way to finish the fucker off.

>>9056854
I zerked out of boredom and happened upon him, and had the resources and lack of enemies to just chase him around and beat him to death, he was a lot smaller than I was expecting and didn't do much besides trying to not get fisted in the face

>>9056854
>I imagine there was alot more hunting and potshots involved
Nah, we played latest main, viles don't play hide and seek anymore.

>>9055984
I'm still around, haven't edited anything at the wiki recently, been busy with work and other Doom related stuff but yeah, I'm still planning on adding pages for the other projects.

>>9056873
It's all good, whenever you have time, we appreciate it.

I know you were struggling but I hope you had a good time, Player.

ok fuck you guys, now I want to try out HD

>>9056894
If he stuck it out and didn't rage quit he probably did. Also thats DERP abuse you asshole, I don't care if its satanic revival needs or not.

>>9056905
All I can say is go into it expecting to suck and die a lot if you don't watch Knox's HD crash course vid. Oh and be ready to rebind everything because you are gonna need a bunch more keybinds. You will know you got the hang of it when E1M1 doesn't murder you constantly!

I should really make more multiplayer-centric loadouts so I'm not playing catchup in terms of gear next time.

>>9056910
Any particular addon's worth checking out? I heard it's compatible with nashgore and I already use nashgore pretty extensively on GZDoom. Kegan's weaponset looks cool as well.

>>9056916
Play stock HD first to get used to it, then check out Ugly as Sin for some more QoL features (lights, laser sights, looting) and peppergrinder if you think the default arsenal has holes and want to get into weapon addons.

>>9056923
Good call, I guess I'll start grinding out the IWADs before I do anything crazy

>>9056743
>>9056802
Got it, thanks.

>>9056910
>Oh and be ready to rebind everything because you are gonna need a bunch more keybinds.

Yeah no kidding. I don't think anything I've ever played has had me use almost my entire keyboard before. Even the numpad.

>>9056929
Know that a lot of maps in the main IWADs are not quite that well suited for the mod, either due to seemingly impossible yet quite duable monster closets or just issues with the terrain. Consider trying out marswar.wad or Eviltech.wad if things aren't going to well.
For the most part, early on Doom 2 is a lot easier than Episode 1, and it's not because the super shotgun is available, both for loadout starts and for Naturist runs.

>>9056251
The boss may be liberator but worse but it's also pump action shotgun but better. Loose 7.76 rounds load 3 at a time way faster than shells, no side saddle micromanaging nonsense, no panic switching to a weapon marines aren't immune to

>>9056957
I wonder how broken a Semi-only BR with no detachable mag and with little to no reliability issues would be. Kinda like an SKS but in 7.76.

I recently finished Marathon (Total Carnage) and I'm halfway through Marathon 2.
Not sure if this is the best difficulty to play it on because I'm kinda tired of spongy enemies and grenade spam, but I'm commited to it for this first playthrough.
I really, really like Marathon 2's gameplay, holy fuck is it an improvement over 1, but I do miss Marathon's environments, even if I like the new ones.
The story is kinda dissappointingly simple, but I heard Infinity really makes up for it. I kinda wish Durandal was focused less on the Pfhor and more on escaping the universe, like in the first game.
Still, all weapons are amazing so I can't complain.

>>9056983
Infinity sounds like exactly what you're looking for, so make sure to continue.

>>9056794
>missed it
>no vod
I imagine twitch is still processing it? Or am I shit out of luck?

>>9057000
Huh, that's the second time this happened. Last week's VOD got deleted seemingly manually, and this one, I'm not really sure, but it's probably the same case.
TARNS? I KNOW YOU LURK HERE YOU CALIFORNIAN BASTARD, WHAT'S GOING ON?

Is Hell on Earth the official sub-title of Doom II (i.e., Doom II: Hell on Earth) or something that came from an excerpt of a manual/guide/fandom?

>>9057025
From the back of the retail box.

>>9057031
Is that gradient-fill WordArt at the top?

8 vertex community project when

>>9057118
When you decide to host it.

How do ladders in HD work?

I just tried hanging a ladder on a 128u high platform (from the bottom) and constantly told me that I can't hang the ladder there.
Then I tried while jumping and it worked.
However, in the code it seems like the maximum ladder height far exceeds 128u.
What is going on there?

>>9056572
>Most levels work but some are broken, I've included a save file with some early levels to jump over broken ones.
>I might look into fixing the few broken levels.
Fixed it, played half thru but got tired, had to cut out level 5 right now, rest is there.

New upload
https://pastebin.com/Fzu6PLqC

Set gamma one notch to the right if you want a brownish filter to have a more similar hue to the N64 version.
Slso up, down, up, down, left, right, left, right is godmode + ammo and weapons, do it twice to turn godmode off again but keep ammo and weapons.

>>9057141
They're like rope ladders. To hook them into place you have to be pretty close to the anchor point, but they unfold their length all the way down. You can even see the extra length built up at the bottom.

>>9056983
Having played all the three games I'd say I actually enjoyed Marathon 1's level design the most. Marathon 2 has varied colorful levels, but they're all ugly, and I'm not a fan of the underwater sections. Infinity has some of the most impressive and best looking maps in the entire series though, especially the first and the last level. And it's mostly dark space ships so if you liked Marathon 1 you'll enjoy the levels here more. I also recommend to try out some fanmade campaigns, because just like when it comes to Doom, the custom content nowadays is even better than the original stuff, Marathon Phoenix is one I can recommend.

>>9057148
NOBODY FUCKING CARES stop posting this gay nintendo shit in our thread

>>9057183
>REEE don't discuss Doom ports in the Doom thread

>>9057141
Ladders are amazing if you need to go down a tall structure safely. They don't work at all if you're at the bottom unless its a height you can already just jump and climb over. As the other anon said, think of it as a rope that won't snap and provides some level of stable support for mid-climb combat. You can only place it on ledges but it goes waaaay far down to account for even the most egregious examples of deadly pitfalls. It sometimes feels a bit short though, but thats when you know the map is a bit excessive with verticality. If such is the case, there's no issue with using cheats to get past the obstacle.

The Jetpack is there for that sort of situation where you need to go up. Sadly its cumbersome nature, massive weight and hungry cell consumption also make it unviable to just be lugging it around everywhere you go.

>>9056646
Q4 is great
It also was actually supposed to get an expansion (developed by hipnotic or whatever they called themselves at that point), but it was canceled because of poor sales. A real pity, I wish ID went with it anyway.

>>9057242
>ID
it's id

>>9057250
IDENTIFICATION GAMES
:)

>>9056834
Damn I never played HD so I'd play just like that, unfazed and dying to everything
>That mannequin
What wad is that?

>>9055665
>Q2’s 25th anniversary this year
>Q4 remaster announced
monkeypaw’d

>Game is perfectly fine but has that one shitty mission you have to suffer through to finish it
What's her name? I'd say Halo CE and the Library, and probably even worse, RTCW and that forest stealth mission.

>>9057270
I always called them that. Being an ESL, I never noticed.

>>9057345
The Factory

>>9057345
Sewer levels.
I. Hate. Sewer levels.
Every game has a sewer level and it is always the worst. I blame Randy Pitchford, he made maps for Duke Nukem and they aren't very good. Greasy like that guy from Trailer Park Boys! Randy Bobandy. All he wants is money and he ruined the Duke Nukem franchise because of it.

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO POST THAT SHIT.

>>9057141
>>9057232
I have definitely used ladders to get to keys and supercharges on high ledges. Turning the camera straight up makes the ladder look for ledges above and the reach is decently higher than just holding space bar while unarmed

>>9057345
Any escort mission

>>9057413
>>9057345
Nearly anything with squadmates/escorts who cause a game over on death.

>>9057386
Continuing working on my HDest funhouse map.

So far I have
>Demon Hunter (works kinda like Chicken Hunter)
>Whack-a-Chaingunner (he shoots back btw)
>Super Shot Gauntlet (SSG)
This game places you in the center in a cage, with Zombiemen spawning every two seconds in a spot somewhere around you. It's a test of reaction time.
It was originally devised to be a revolver game, but I found the revolver doesn't reliably kill even the regular undead homeboys.

>>9057386
94P map progress report
I'll admit it, I got a little burnt-out on 512 Lines (that'll happen when you make as many maps as I did), but after a bit of downtime, I've made some good progress on my 94P submission. Still needs some detailing, encounter designing, and a couple progression quirks worked-out, but I'm pretty proud of it overall. (That will probably change when I get to the finalizing/balancing pass.)

>>9057332
quake 2 will be remastered as well

Is there a way to hide the PC's dialogue in strife? I mean those choices that you get, marked with numbers. Or is there some place where I can find the clean character portraits?

>>9057552
>some place where I can find the clean character portraits?
Open up strife.wad with slade3 wad editor, that's where you should find them. Select appropriate color palette and use context menu option 'Export PNG'.

>>9056960
I’ve wanted an Obrez Boss pistol for the longest time, I’m surprised it’s not a Peppergrinder thing

>>9057419
sounds cool, looking forward to playing it

what's a good retro fps for someone that doesn't like retro fps?

>>9057619
Jedi Knight and MotS I guess?

>>9057619
CnC Renegade

>>9057559
Damn, that was a lot of graphics.
This worked, thank you.

>>9057332
>>9057526
There would be no Quake 4 re-release, like was mentioned before. They're just preparing it and original Enemy Territory for PC Game Pass.
Quake 2 & 3 on there as well, but didn't get re-release treatment (yet).

Is there a way in HDest to spawn something through console with the same specs as specified in the loadout? E.g. if I want a shotgun with a different choke but 7.

>>9055809
Hey look it's tomorrow already.
No Serious Business Saturday today, sorry everyone.

>>9056103
What wad.

>>9057698

>>9055687
It's always been varying degrees of popular in /doom/, with a few regulars seeming to play it. Someone asked about it a while back and started playing, I assume that some of the interest you see is that guy being hyped because he really likes it.

>>9057690
Yeah, the hd_give command lets you do that. You enter the same stuff as in the loadout.

>>9057386
Making a zeppelin in Quake because I hate myself. Probably need to adjust some proportions and make a better hull texture before I get into the meat of it.

>>9057698
>>9057713
>fucked up my post
Anyway I wanted to post a crying meme, hope the SBS returns next week. What are we playing btw? More custom maps?

>>9057709
Sounds like Tricks and Traps from Doom 2. A weird map I’ve grown to appreciate.

>>9057720
It'll be more custom maps for sure, there's a whole bunch out there with co-op support.

ASO3000 has fucking decimated my morale. This star room is such fucking bullshit.
>I think it's too easy now.
Fuck you.

>>9056154
It's really cool, but an acquired taste and not for everyone, however it's crack for the right kind of person. It's been frequently said that there really isn't many games like it (tacticool SWAT4/Arma gameplay experience but with magic, supernatural monsters, and abstract level design), which I think is why it has such an enduring presence.
If I were to compare it to the ever popular Brutal Doom / Project Brutality mods, I would say those lean more towards style over substance, while Hideous Destructor is a lot more substance over style, in that animations, sound design, and effects being somewhat plain and understated, with some of the original graphics being, ah, of modest quality (thus many mods for that), with shitloads of depth, complexity, and granularity to the gameplay.

Speaking of e-celebs, it's kind of a wonder that a dude like SsethTzeentach hasn't gotten his grubby African Warlord hands on HD by now, because the mod is pretty Rogue-ish, and he seems to love that.

>>9057749
setting up multi for HD is kind of a pain in the ass THOUGH

>>9056103
I'm not a huge fan of Tricks and Traps, but having "unnecessary" rooms to explore is cool

>>9057719
>Making a zeppelin in Quake

>>9057716
thanks m8

Anyone managed to download Tarnsman's stream of 2048 units?

>>9057749
This might be considered annoying, but I find that it turns Doom into an immersive sim that’s more detailed and nuanced than most actual immersive sims. I want to look into maps specifically designed for it.

>>9057791
>2048 units
you mean 512 lines? Or that old ass stream from 2 years ago? 2048 units one was terrible, he didn't pistolstart and couldn't even say 4chan or /vr/ out loud or in the title of stream and was a general bitch.

>>9057731
If we somehow run out of custom maps, we could also try Serious Sam 2

>>9055406
>OP
Roasterock's reaction will always be legendary for me.

>>9057798
It pretty much is an immersive sim, but an immersive sim for a setting like Doom, which is a unique thing indeed. I can't think of any maps made for it in mind off the top of my head, but there's a few I think.

>>9057809
Wasn't he fairly positive to it? He said the quality wasn't even at all times, but that's how it can be with a community project like that, and that it was overall decent.
I think that sums up 2048 Units Of /vr/ well, a little bit rough around the edges, but as a whole it was decent, particularly given how green many of us were.

>>9057719
I seriously hope there's a fight inside the balloon and if you use explosives it blows up

>>9057872
Him and/or Max mention every time they stream one of our projects that it's impressive we can get something together (mostly) within the confines of an anonymous imageboard.

>>9057739
What agitates you most, the vile or the boners? Share your suffering, please, for it delights me.

After finding out some time ago that Matt accounts for speed of sounds when something explodes far away, I also just now noticed that my heartbeat makes the scope jump on the boss rifle.
Now I wonder when we will get a prone position.

>>9057845
Is that grass to the right the healer’s stalks?

>>9057719
Use some custom monsters please. Too many good map ideas are ruined by only using the stock Quake bestiary.

>>9057798
I don't see how saying that is annoying, other than the term "immersive sim" itself. That's part of why I like HD so much too. It takes everything about Doom's setting, from the obvious stuff like enemies and weapons to the smaller, mundane, or more forgettable things like the stimpacks and NVG and fleshes them out as much as it can. Everything has multiple functions and almost all of it interacts and overlaps with each other in some way.

If you're looking for maps, https://dastrukar.gitlab.io/hddons-list/#maps
is a good place to start. It's got just about all of them, and I think the mod itself still has a list of recommended wads on the git.

>>9057876
There will be, I just haven't figured out how to best use the space.
>use explosives it blows up
Yes.
>>9057919
Don't worry, plenty of violent rumbling is involved...

Is the steam version of DOOM 64 good?

>>9057930
Yes.

>>9057929
>Don't worry, plenty of violent rumbling is involved...
Great to hear. I was going to mention how I like the additions in VR and Alkaline, but not all of AD’s or that one set of realistic and huge levels.

>>9057930
Yeah but no matter what I do I still get less input lag using EX. Also: Be sure to delete the videos in the folder.

I'm having issues with Violent Rumble in Ironwail.
For some reason, if I press the alternate fire key, it will keep firing indefinitely, even if you switch weapons, as soon as you switch it back, it will pick up where it left off.
I'm using the 1.00 release as pak0, and the pak1 found in the MEGA, have I installed it wrong by any chance?

>>9057883
>vile
>boners
Your disingenuousness may seem cute to you, but it's just a transparent nuisance.
Upload a demo; I'd like to see how you deal with the RNG fiesta that you unsubtly failed to mention in your post.

How many maps have been submitted for 94p?

>>9057941
You may need to update your quake.rc file or otherwise manually rebind to match pic related. Secondary fire now has a toggle alias.

>>9057930
It's just newer version of Doom64 EX with extra episode, but freelook and jumping removed.

>>9057938
>Also: Be sure to delete the videos in the folder.
Or he could just put "-skipmovies" in the launch options. But yeah I guess deleting them is a good idea if he really wants those 39 megabytes back.

>>9057798
It’s not designed for it, but I played through 5to2.wad with it, a fairly long single map that’s based on the Midwich school from Silent Hill. Was a good time, horror-themed levels suit the slow pace of HD really well in my experience, but I don’t know of too many.

>>9057938
why?

>>9057812

Since the thread still has the HDest bug, I'll ask: Does the latest version change how aiming works? It feels a lot looser, like the sights refuse to stay anywhere near where you're actually aiming unless you're completely still. It's made it a lot harder to stop and go while picking things off quickly, because I have to wait noticeably longer until everything's lined up.

>>9058026
>why?
Why should you delete the videos? So you don’t have keep having to skip them, you could also just do what >>9057973 suggested.
Or, why am I still getting more input lag than the EX version? Dunno.

>>9058038
Not sure if the latest changed how aiming works, but i've been playing the garret/footsteps and bobbing mod and a good way to mitigate sway is to walk slowly by tapping, going prone immediatly or to brace something nearby like a corner or ledge.
Hold Zoom or Use if you're having problems being precise after stopping, that lowers your sensitivity enough that you can pincussion pixels from very far away while in a stable location. Use is a bit more loose than Zoom in that regard so its kinda useful on the move as well, it also forces bracing if its just far away enough to not stick automatically but close enough that it should.

>>9058038
He's been expanding on the physical presence of your guns. Pistols now point faster than your body can turn, and long arms lag behind (zerk inverts this logic). It's taken some adjustment but I haven't found it particularly debilitating. Mostly just a bit harder to track moving targets at range.

>>9057872
As a general lurker and subpar doom player I think 2048 units was the /vr/ wad I liked the most, I don't know, gameplaywise new wads are superior in terms of encounters and gameplay ideas but 2048 units was very fresh and creative, the maps were very unique compared to each other, I can't really point my finger to why I remember it like that, maybe because /vr/ mappers were at a stage where they were good enough to make good maps but also still enough inexperienced to be very experimental with the designs instead of having a particular workflow? I don't know. The map locations were very unique too.

By the way whoever made that map on 512 where there is a romero head next to the red key and in the very end you need to go back to the map being repopulated with monsters to open two red key doors (Hit Play Half Cocked), congratulations, I loved it.

Recommend me some soothing comfy wad. Picture unrelated.

>>9057938
If you're using vsync, input lag can usually be solved in most places by limiting your framerate to something below what your monitor supports. For example, my "75 Hz" monitor has an actual refresh rate of 74.968 Hz, and I limit to 74.9 fps. This may cause a missed frame every 15 seconds, but I don't really notice unless I'm looking for it, and the decreased latency is very noticeable.
The real solution is using a variable refresh monitor, and setting it a few integers under the limit. Or disabling vsync

>>9058136
Glad you liked it.

>>9058156
Vsync’s off. I might look into forcing it to “shut up” through the nvidia control panel. I’m also fine with just sticking to EX but I want to try the new episode.

>>9056572
>>9057148
>doom 64 on something that doesn't even do 3d

>>9058175
I want you to hang around

>>9057781
If four of us from wherever the fuck can organize a Hideous session on here with no other communication channels, you sure as hell can organize a game with your group through a chat client of your choice.
Honestly, I'm still amazed that it worked as well as it did.

>>9057798
Immersive sims are not meant as actual simulations. More as hitman play as you like type games.

Thief was not simulating sprained ankles when falling from heights.

>>9058242
Cool post but that has nothing to do with anything, so what are you doing?

>>9058262
HD is not an immersive sim like Arx fatalis or system shock.

Its more of a tactical shooter.

>>9058263
>HD is not an immersive sim like Arx fatalis or system shock.
Grand insight since it is, in fact, different. Thanks for more cool posts.

>>9057880
Boy, is it.

>>9058136
Limited (yet not constrictive) map size I guess forces the mapper to really think about what he wants to put in and how to make the best of it. There was ample time to work on the levels so it's not like it was speedmapping either.
Glad you had fun.

>>9058269
Well since immersive sims tag is already a bit flimsy, but shit like cruelty squad is more of an immersive sim.

I know what you mean by saying it is a bit more imsim than most imsims, it has inventory and tries to simulate shit, but then again other games have inventory and simaulate hunger or heat but are not really in the genre like Deus Ex.

I guess those games needs another genre name but hey.


If somebody did delta green HD, with big open ended maps with multiple playstyles then yes it would probably be the best im sim ever.

>>9055698
Brown is nice, I'll suggest using wood or metal pillars to break up the bricks tho

>>9056868
wait, viles are changed now?

>>9058293
Yeah, they're a lot more like vanilla archviles now. They have actual health and shields like every other monster, are stupid fast, resurrect enemies in one try unlike healer imps or frag, and their attack is pretty disruptive to your movement, since it lifts you up in the air which can mean death when you have to actually dodge stuff while they're doing it. They still have the cool death animation though.

>>9058280
>Well since immersive sims tag is already a bit flimsy, but shit like cruelty squad is more of an immersive sim.
Not only are you saying dumbshit, you're bringing not-retro nonsense into here. What a waste.

>>9058298
They can teleport around locally, too, especially when their shield is low. If you get a bronto shot off on one, you fucking deserve the oneshot.

>>9058302
What do you mean?

>>9058298
Aw man. No longer is it a fucking nightmareish half-ghost thing that slowly creeps up to you through the walls while making noises and resurrects things in a radius? I actually kinda liked that it was a thing you couldn't bruteforce with enough firepower and it needed to feel actual pain instead. Made them incredibly scary to fight and thus fun.

>>9058298
I think it'd be cool if a vile had a 50/50 chance on spawn to be either the disappearing spookvile or the new rapevile.

>>9058318
Old viles were tedious to deal with on any map with more than one, the new ones are much more of an active threat with their faster flames.
They still have powerful resurrections and a posthumous curse, which I feel keeps enough of their identity while making them actually worth engaging with instead of avoiding entirely.

>>9057958
5 lmao

>>9058302
Huh?

>>9058341
They were indeed a tedious mess to deal with specially in maps with lots of corpses to resurrect. In even older versions they were even scarier when you had them resurrect a marine corpse, which were incredibly tanky and often had a GL Rifle instead of some shotgun or SMG which they'd use it to immediatly gib you.
However they had this sort of unnatural charm to them, like the mere presence of a vile in the map was a dreadful thing that'd be gnawing at the back of your mind either trying to escape it and any corpses nearby once it saw you or pinpointing its location by its sounds while hunting it down.
I don't think i've ever played any horror game that had an enemy that was as fucking scary as the old hd archvile and that made it genuinely special. Like, it almost feels a bit sad that they're being phased out for the sake of a more grounded threat.

>>9056853

>>9055997
whoa, thats one of the most aesthetically pleasing doom maps Ive ever seen. Can you please tell me what wad it is in?

>>9058415
Oh, are we doing these now?

>>9058415
Needs to be a .gif instead with the vile slowly fading away after getting knocked the fuck out

>>9057386
Since I probably won't have time (and then no drive anymore) to continue working on this, here's the current version of "Happiness & Delection". Map name is "FUNHOUSE".
This map was made specifically for use with HDest. Tested with the latest build from somewhen last week.
>>9057605

There's currently four games. Difficulty from lowest to highest are
>Demon Hunter
>Boom Balloon
>Whack-a-Chaingunner
>Super Shot Gauntler

https://litter.catbox.moe/3a3kgd.wad

neat

>>9058428
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2664/db-project-50-emerald-city
I believe the link in the OP of this Doomerboards thread has the map.

>>9058478
>You do not have permission to access this thread
aaa

>>9058490
It's the current WIP Doomer Boards Project, just wait until it releases at the end of the month, you spaz.

>>9058449
Really fun anon!

Super Shot Gauntlet was my fav one and you should flesh it out first, give more ammo to the surviving player and make enemies gradually more stronger and make them appear faster, i also noticed how the there is a short delay between the teleport effect and the zombieman teleporting to the room to give the player some time to react, a really nice touch

Monster hunter also was good and i would love to see it fleshed out a bit more

Boom balloon seems is most promising one out of all them, you should add more flying monsters that are flying towards you, the farther away they are when you kill them the more points you get or something like that

I didint really like Whack-a-Chaingunner if you would add like a firing range where the chaingunners move on the conveyor belts or something THAT would make it more interesting

Overall i really like the concept and i would love to see more of this i really hope you will find some time to work on this because i really like it, just want to let you know that there is someone out there that enjoys your creation (because its good)

My score:

Demon Hunter - 716

Boom Balloon - 90

Whack-a-Chaingunner - 116

Super Shot Gauntler - 135

>>9058490
Just make an account. That's all it takes to view the Doomer Boards Project threads, if I'm not mistaken.

Map33 of 400 minutes of /vr/
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ne0EBou0ZZU

Hey! After playing through so much Doom I finally want to dive into Build Engine games. I've read the guide you beautiful anons made for Duke via eDuke, but I was wondering: is there any other pro's to using Build GDX compared to eDuke for a low end laptop or is eDuke the way to go for all build engine games?

>>9058502
Wow that was quick, thanks for playing.

Whack-a-Chaingunner was originally devised as some actual whackamole-y game where they appear from the ground. I didn't want to use conveyors, as it would then just be like demon hunter.
The biggest problem here is how limited ACS is - boom balloon is already made to "work" with some really hacky brute programming. Maybe in the future I might try to get into ZS for level alteration.

>>9058586
Eduke has support for Duke3D and Ion Fury. For the rest you can choose either BuildGDX or Raze.

>>9058586
Honestly I have been loving raze. It just works and has some nice features.

>>9057619
Half Life

>>9057949
>>9057883
Hey, I wasn't fucking around motherfucker. I wanna see whatever strategy I'm apparently failing to employ to consistently avoid getting shredded by the Shotgunners while also getting them to actually infight with the Archvile. Again, I mean consistently, because watching the Archvile running around in the center of the room making it undodgeable is one thing, but going from 100 to 0 in two second flat a third of the time is intensely frustrating, and it seems to happen exclusively when certain Shotgunners decide that they don't want to move a certain way or shoot at a specific moment.

Anybody ever get motion sickness when playing Quake?

>>9058794
no, but try it with "cl_rollangle 0", "cl_bob 0" and a high host_maxfps with no vsync

>>9058586
Personally I find BuildGDX ugly as fuck, it doesn't have the same SW rendering aesthetic that I fondly remember from the build trio. VoidSW and NBlood are the only non-official sourceports I've found that look "correct" to me. Duke has a bunch of alternatives like eduke32 and rednukem.

>>9055408
Update for my 94 Protons map.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mo785zaqjesjx9/A2RobExspiravitOppidumV2.wad?dl=0

-Modified the red and yellow key fights
-Archies should be resurrecting the turret revs properly now
-Difficulties implemented

>>9056794
He's back at it. The issue with VODs disappearing is unknown, maybe some fuckery with Twitch's defaults. Hope it gets fixed because it's 6 am here.

>>9057526
>>9057332
We already got Quake 2 RTX. Do we need more?

>>9058926
It's not fixed, sorry.

So there I am, looting corpses before moving on to the next room, when out pops an impractically large MRE box. I pick it up, and I can no longer move. I scroll through my inventory and use the box. "An Entire Grand Piano...".

I'd like to say I made Crash eat the whole thing, but that would have taken forever. I settled for 5%.

All the remaking, enhancing and rehashing of Quake 2 won't ever fix that it is the weakest Quake game. Quake 4 and QC don't count.

>>9059132
The weakest Quake game is still better than almost all modern FPS games

>>9059152
I'm sad now, because you're correct.

>>9059120
>"An Entire Grand Piano..."
Alright, let's get this out onto a tray.

>>9055408
Unless anyone wants to make last minute fixes or adjustments, I'm about to send 512 Linedefs of /vr/ to Idgames.

>>9059157
>quiet "nice" muffled by a cataclysmic *CLONK*

>>9058182
>something that doesn't even do 3d
>Game Boy Advance.
lol wut
>>9058302
LMFAO

>>9056572
I thought this was a port of Doom 64 itself, but it's instead the demake megawad, making this Doom 64 for Doom 2 For Gameboy Advance. This is some real meta shit.

>>9059120
Just smile while you chew, it's funnier that way.

lets stop the trend of putting multiple archviles in a room full of hitscanners

>>9059191
>*clonk*
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?!

>>9059271
that just makes me want to do it more...!

>>9057872
>>9057880
Yeah, they do, and I respect them. Its just the first stream they did about our project they seemed a bit nervous how it would be seen, atleat that's my theory

>>9057908
kek

>>9057876
>>9057929
>and if you use explosives it blows up
What? Demons and outer gods never heard of helium?

MAN, I REALLY GOTTA DUMP ASS

>>9057930
>>9057973
>>9058156
I just got the GOG one, is that one okay?

>>9059325
It would surprise me if the GOG and Steam versions weren't basically identical, minus perhaps the Bethesda account cross-promo shit.

>>9058141
Pirate DOOM is my go-to comfy WAD. In fact I challenge anyone to find anything comfier

>>9059320
A zeppeling made of demon flesh. It may be able to absorb gunfire to some extent because it regenerates, but some explosives would certainly pop it. Sounds like a rad place for a level with a boss fight.

>>9059157
I might have to replace the sprite for the Berserk packs in my WAD with packs of Lucky Strikes now.

>>9059349
That's disgusting! Who would want to eat something like that?

>>9059191
I might have to replace the sprite for the Berserk packs in my WAD with packs of Lucky Strikes now.
>>9059351
*teleports behind u*

>>9059354
I like eating the whole pack of cigarettes every time I find them. It upsets my co-op buddy

>>9059340
Scythe 2

>>9059358
>when you trade the food in your MREs for all the cigarettes

>>9059358
>eats cigarettes
>somehow isn't man enough to down a Newswell Bakery Creampie

>>9059373
I'll eat it if you drink the charmalane lemonade or the shark testosterone water.

>>9059376
Any time, dude. Do you have any idea where natural taurine comes from?

>>9058768
Just grab the plasma and blast away lmao

>>9059191
>>9059157
"Hmm. You know, that's not very enjoyable."

>>9059340
Playing Jenesis always makes me remember those fond memories of a more fun, simpler time back when skulltag was still alive and brimming with activity, doom mods were all sorts of wacky shenanigans and new full megawads were coming out like hotcakes. It'll always have a warm place in my heart because of how many times I've gone through it in coop with all sorts of weaponsets.

>>9059358
>>9059373
I've been eating every weird one I find including the drywall.

>>9059405
That reminds me.
When is seasoning packet getting updated so that the crayons actually keep forever, as they claim?

what happened to that judge dredd project?
i also realized a good way to make dredd sprites is to use the strige protag because of the pistol (make it the lawgiver) and the exposed mouth under the helmet

>>9058175
Strife's dialogue system was almost good
We would probably have dozens of cool gzdoom mods with interesting writing by now if only you wouldn't be able to "thanks bye" out at any point in a conversation

>>9059497
Judge Doom never dies.

I had to take a break though for reasons, but have been getting back into mapping to improve my skills, though I realized that what makes an engaging Doom map doesn't necessarily translate to Meg-1.
Also, there is still a bit to do concerning enemies, since as several people have pointed out there's too many hitscanners with too little of a wind-up time.
Trying to replay the Bullet Train recently I got my ass kicked profoundly despite knowing the perfect strategy.
The lawgiver is considered finished though, at least sprite-wise. Of course there will be some code optimizations in the future, especially considering the controls, but the gun is the one thing I would consider *almost* feature-complete.

>>9059536
wasn't there a dredd fps?
will that be used as inspiration for your project?

>>9059537
Yeah, Dredd vs. Death, early 00s jank, but fun.

But no, Judge Doom is just a fanfic with a (so far) more "everyday slice-of-life" approach. Although I used some of the skies and Dredd one-liners.
Here's the thread: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=72460

>>9057250
eye-dee software

>>9059003

Upon legendsworld lies Doom 4 leak Doom 3 final.
4 walking sim glitchless 3 only 1/3 extra difficult then, codifies the end of id software no conditional.
4 concerns walk that just might end up badly unnatural actually if one mingles which seems unwise here.
Do not relate to anything else what so ever.
Notification, never mind at all.

>>9059651

>>9058141
Golden Souls 1

>>9059651
>Upon legendsworld lies Doom 4 leak Doom 3 final.
Source?
>4 walking sim glitchless 3 only 1/3 extra difficult then, codifies the end of id software no conditional.
id was over after Quake 3 desu.
>4 concerns walk that just might end up badly unnatural actually if one mingles which seems unwise here.
Pretty unwise here, yeah.
>Do not relate to anything else what so ever.
I usually don't.
>Notification, never mind at all.
If you say so, chief.

>>9059651
I was wondering if you’d ever come back

>>9055406
I feel like I'm going fucking insane recently
Can you faggots confirm that Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal play like average-at-best console shooters and have none of the intensity and grit of the original games
Everyone praises the hell out of these fucking games yet I get bored to fucking death whenever I attempt to get through them, even multiple hours in

>>9059728
I like them but they're just a different game compared to classic Doom. So I can see why someone would hate one while liking the other one.

>>9059728
Yes you are not wrong. Doom 2016 has some exploration, but then it has those silly dmc arenas.
I honestly had more fun playing Rage 2 or Prey, Prey at least being some nice SS type exploration.

They are praised in contrast to decades now of linear brown shooter.

That said, they are okay games.I would much prefer if they made a modern build like game or Hexen with that engine.

>>9059760
>they are okay games
Exactly, they are not terrible, but felt just so fucking bland to play through and the much-mentioned gore fell completely fucking flat for me, felt almost like a Disney version of Doom
Glad I'm not alone in this

>>9059728
no

>>9059765
They are fine, I also dislike how you are locked into the silly gore kills instead of moving around and the weapon impacts feel a bit weak but they are decent games.

As for being disney you should expect everything triple A to be corporate safe for the next decades.

>>9059773
>>9059765
someone will think you're hyperboling but even in interviews, hugo refers to doom as "violence for the family, we don't allow swearing" and if that mobile game is anything to go by, they admittedly made doom safer
which is probably why people claim that 2016 had the better tone
though 2016 still felt bland and tame, while at least 3 had earnest and more interesting designs for a horror game
2016 had "grounded" designs that felt more alien than demons and eternal just ramped up the fantasy/sci-fi elements to be more over the top
the fact that they came up with urdak and immora officially renders doom as the opposite of when a jrpg references some real cultural characters that you ended up searching on google to see it being real

og doom is cartoony but it was still the kind of game involved in controversies and tackled on taboo topics at the time
this makes the potential for a quake reboot somewhat worrying, because of it's associations with hp lovecraft and nine inch nails

>>9059728
>I feel like I'm going fucking insane recently
Me too. I thought there was no more "off-topic games" discussions here. So 7+ generation & current retro titles are still allowed here in some capacity, good to know.
>>9059830
>this makes the potential for a quake reboot somewhat worrying, because of it's associations with hp lovecraft and nine inch nails
Quake might have a chance with Roundhouse Studios, who I always viewed as the closest candidate to take on a project like that since Wolfenstein is reaching the finish lane & DOOM is much more ironic, so id is more likely to focus on it entirely.

BrutalBond "dev" here. Almost ready to release a tech demo of this shit. Had a situation where all of my zscript classes got deleted but resolved it.

The one thing I want to get working is drinkable martinis. These are not pickups. They are static objects that the player can press use on and drink, and a sound effect will play, the sprite will switch and eventually I want to make some drunk mechanics where your aim swirls around a bit.
I know how to do this with ACS and triggers but I want to include all of this code with the class itself so I'd like to keep it in the Zscript file.
I figured I'd use this as a superclass since it seems to do exactly what I want it to
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:SwitchableDecoration

It's not fucking working. I press use and nothing happens. Is there any reason why this wouldn't work in Zscript? Is there a better way to achieve this? Is there a way to define custom states in Zscript and activate them when the player presses use? I guess I'm also assuming that you 'activate' and 'deactivate' items in hexen by pressing use. Is that a correct assumption?




class Martini: SwitchableDecoration
{
Default
{
+SOLID
Height 4;
radius 2;
Xscale 0.40;
Yscale 0.40;
}
States
{

Spawn:
MART A 1;
Loop;
Active:
MART A 1;
Loop;
Inactive:
MART B 1;
MART B -1;
Stop;
}
}


>>9059964
>code tags don't work
Megaghey

https://pastebin.com/GY5aZDBK

>>9059964
Lol I love Goldeneye Doom

>>9059857
>Me too. I thought there was no more "off-topic games" discussions here.
Modern id reboots seem somewhat of an exception. It’s discussion surrounding the newer 90s inspired shooters that usually gets stomped out, thankfully.
>>9059830
Did Hugey ever mention why they reduced the violence on the player? I was hoping for me player deaths, those were fun in 2016.

>>9059964
Seems like your Martini is missing some important information.
Read the article on the wiki on SwitchableDecoration again and check this out:

class cabbage : SwitchableDecoration
{
Default
{
YScale 0.415;
XScale 0.5;
Height 10;
Radius 10;
Activation THINGSPEC_Deactivate;
+BUMPSPECIAL;
+SOLID;
}

States
{
Spawn:
Active:
CABB A -1;
Stop;
Inactive:
CABB B 1 A_NoBlocking();
CABB B -1;
Stop;
}
}


It's just a head of cabbage that can be trampled which I made for Summer Fun. I also have a patch of tall grass that can be flattened that works the same way. The most important things are the flags that set the special (in your case probably +USESPECIAL or something) and the "Activation" property.

>>9059994
The coof fucked over a bunch of big studios, id included. I assumed the lack of unique deaths was a time constraint and considered unimportant.

>>9059830
>and nine inch nails
funny you mention that because Trent got off all the drugs, hit the gym, got a petite asian wife, and has several film scores under his belt. The music has evolved but it's still got that unmistakable grit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SBNCYkSceU

>>9059412
It's on the list. The list is extremely long and I can't say when exactly the big man will be getting around to even starting on it, but it'll happen eventually.

>>9058469
MEAT

Was having fun with this mission pack until these showed up.

>>9060280
wobble wobble wobble, you're dead

>>9060280
Wait until they start spawning behind you.

>>9060009
thanks bruv. That's what it was missing.
https://files.catbox.moe/q58poa.mp4

Just need to fix the martini colors so it looks like an olive and not a glob of seamen, add druk effects (the song won't play until you have drank at least 3 martinis), and i'll publish it to mod db.
>>9060124
This is completely off topic but there is no way Trent DIDN'T do all the synths and sound effects on Pantera's great southern trendkill. That album has his fingerprints all over it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X5iHWpb5uI

>>9060371
>119MB .mp4 for two minutes of footage
Jesus Christ Anon, please compress your shit. Some people are, not by any fault of their own, currently not equipped with a fast connection.
Resize and re-encode please.
https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter

That said, you're welcome. For making the martini translucent, you can use truecolor png with transparency. Also, since you only have one frame anyway, consider using a frame duration of -1 and Stop instead of Loop.
Maybe someone who knows more about the engine might contradict me, but I'll expect it to use less resources that way.

DSDA is ditching ENDOOM/ENDBOOM screens for good, Charlie, if you're here, do you plan on retaining that in From Doom With Love?

>>9059003
>calling RTX a remaster
how to spot the nvidia brainlet.

>>9060413
what a bunch of blithering idiots.
even GZD supports it.

>>9059728
Doom 4 is decent (and I really didn't expect even that), but lacks a lot of the finer details which makes Classic Doom much more stimulating and engaging.

There isn't anything in Doom 4 which is comparable to Final Doom, which in many places is downright brilliant in encounter design. I haven't played Doom 5 yet, but I'll hazard a guess that they didn't learm to craft more riveting combat engagements.

>>9059830
Doom 3 designs sucked ass, take off the older = better glasses. Nobody wants to see a grey undercooked meatball of a Cacodemon.

>>9059830
>potential Quake reboot
If it doesn't feature H.P Lovecraft's cat, we riot!

>>9060465
I don't like Doom 3's designs as much as Classic or 64's, but they have their own charm, to me anyway. I like them a lot better than many nuDoom designs, which are mostly too chitinous.

>>9060465
the main complaints i see are
>they redesigns iconic demons into something else
and
>they're too gray alien-esque
but a lot of the designs seem more "talkative"
like "tv mouth demon" or "transparent skin revenant"
for better or worse, they sell the idea of hell being a fucked up dimension better than making everything too "familiar", which is why 2016 feels more limited
even eternal strived for some variety
if most d3 redesigns were seperate entities from doom's iconic designs, most people would probably be a bit more acceptable to them

>>9060483
I think doom 3 looked enemies looked impressive as shit back in the day.

>>9060413
And they cleaned up the posts too? What kind of passed exchange one should imagine so they wouldn't appear as tight-ass quivering wussies

>>9060483
Doom 3 enemies looked great at that time.
i still remember the hype at planet doom at that time

>>9060462
My problem is that the combination of dashing and double jumping nullifies the challenge behind the original games. You don't really get boxed in by hell knights or pinkies or anything like that. You can just double jump to higher areas and basically cheese those enemies, as they have to waste time doing a long animation of jumping up and down platforms. And the dashing makes it easier to dodge projectiles.

Ultimately though, it's the lack of enemy count. If I recall correctly, there is a 12 enemy limit in Doom 4, and probably not that higher in 5. All of these things pretty much forced the developers to make Painkiller style arenas, as there was no way to design an encounter around player limitations.

Centroids are a bunch of assholes

>>9060453
yeah because GZDoom is unironically the best sourceport if you don't give a shit about speedrunning or TAS autism

Over the weekend I have been trying out HD Peppergrinder, but I don't really feel it.
The oddball has a cool concept (I think there was a similar gun in a DUMP guns project some years ago) and since the C96 is one of my favorite guns ever I can't just not use it anymore, but apart from that the only gun *I* really found fun is the MASER. There's just something about incinerating those monsters.
But everything else is not that exciting imo.

>>9060489
They did. I didn't like the transparent skin on the revenants though. Just seemed liked it was trying to answer a question that no one asked.
>how do they move without msucles???
who gives a shit

>>9060542
You talking about the Tesla Rifle from DUMP 3? Because yeah, I can see it. As for the rest of the Peppergrinder, it's mostly a low key personal arsenal for the author and a few friends, I should know, I'm one of those.
If you haven't already, I suggest trying out the Otis at least because it kills the shit out of things real good.

>>9060541
or stability or decent multiplayer

>>9060280
These guys never bothered me because I always check my six and learned to listen after their murmuring noise.

>>9060559
I don't think I've ever had GZDoom crash on me. Though, I've had sourceports like Woof crash my video drivers before but that might just be a driver issue.

>>9060559
>multiplayer
Fair, but does DSDA even have multiplayer?

>stability
The rare times I have a crash it's an error on the content author's end.

>>9060558
>Tesla Rifle
It was lighting up progressively, right? But my memory is not that good, it had a bazillion guns.

But ok, thanks for the explanation, with how it was discussed here I thought it was a big thing. I tried every single gun out and I am usually a big revolver fan, but something about the revolvers in HD is kinda eh. The standard HD revolver too. I feel they should feel more satisfying. A revolver I really liked was that recent sa revolver from realm667. I would love to make it into a HD gun, but everytime I look into the HD code, I understand it less.

>>9060585
That's the one. That felt like a fucking eternity ago now, my art skills have improved since then.
I actually really enjoy the granular nature of the revolvers in HD, with how you need to manually load each round in one by one, and you can fiddle with the hammer too, that split second delay of the trigger pull can make all the difference in a fight. I also don't blame you for not wanting to bother with HD's code, I certainly don't.

>>9060541
That's not the point. Removing ENDOOM support is retarded as it doesn't affect anything, not even speedrunning, and it can always just be put behind a turn-on toggle if people are complaining.
Even GZD, the port most well known for axing support of features and compatibility because the maintainer is an autistic retard puppeteered by trannies, hasn't even done that. If anything they've enhanced it by making it display on fullscreen on game exit as an option. Its just baffling. A lot of custom mapsets use ENDOOM screens for pretty ASCII graphics and credits which is just a nice touch to check out after playing them.

>>9060596
reloading can be fun and using the hammer to line up a shot feels rewarding but it also just feels like you're holding back your firepower. A .355 round will really wind a marine or caco and has a good chance of stopping him from shooting you but a burst of 3-4 full auto ZM bullets will just kill him, and you have 40+ more in the magazine

>>9060573
>>9060575
GZD used to consistently crash on me on release 4.2.4 for virtually no reason after 10 minutes of play. In pure vanilla with no mods. It doesn't do it on newer versions but that was still pretty annoying for a while.

>>9060596
this reminds me
what happened to that system shock doom anon?

>>9060604
The point is just stop using autism ports and use the best ones. DSDA has so many features missing compared to PrBoom that it's not worth using. Come home white man.

>doom, doom 2, final doom, master levels, sigil and the other romero maps, nrftl, console exclusive levels, the lost episodes of doom, perdition's gate, hell to pay
what's next?

>>9060608
With the regular .355 revolver, choosing to carry it is mostly going to be out of curiosity, wanting to flex, or just enjoying the act of slamming a silver bullet into a well greased chamber. After all, it's still just a sidearm.
Same thing with the Oddball, some people just really enjoy blowing their load all over the place after cranking one out really fast, or having to pump it in a corner before exposing themselves.

>>9060413
>>9060453
Well, from my ape brain understanding he consistently enhances the port with innovative features since its inception, most of impressive ones are skeletal frame of basic and provided as is... still, I'll give him that. Isn't the only demo compatible port of Hexen and Heretic with high resolution? Pioneer for MBF21 too.

>>9060585
The thing about revolvers is the misconception that they'd be doing enough damage to oneshot weaker things. The HD revolver is more of an utility "fuck this shield and the monster wearing it" sort of backup weapon with a quirky reload mechanism, making it feel underwhelming vs regular opponets but still having a small niche as a better shieldbuster and bleeding tool than 9mm with the caveats of weighting a lot more than a pistol and slower reloading. It usually kills imps in 3 shots which is nice. It having a different ammo pool to 9mm also makes it pair well with a mainline 9mm weapon like an SMG or HLAR as opposed to having two weapons cannibalizing eachother's ammo pool on an emergency.
The .44 revolver in peppergrinder kinda fills that role of a 5-shot 1hko on humanoids a bit more and does not feel underwhelming at all unless you face an armoured opponent. Too bad ammo for it is rather rare. Hell, have you tried the plasma pistol? Its a one shot gun (or two shot with the custom chamber) that melts virtually anything short of an HK.

>>9060630
>it's ok when anybody but Graf does it

>>9060616
I'm not using DSDA or Woof yet. Not sure what's all the rage about them other than MBF21? I still use PrBoom when I want to play pure vanilla.

>>9060648
Nope. He's just as retarded as graf for removing features that don't even affect performance.

>>9060649
DSDA is PrBoom+ with easier demo recording/TAS features.
Woof is technically MBF with a PrBoom+ facelift, but a Crispy Doom aesthetic.

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME!! Tonight we're playing through Neodoom. Password is "ragecage". Let's discover the power of the ZDoom engine circa 2006 together.
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

Noob question here, how do I use the autoload folders in most doom sourceports?

For example, if I have the spritefix dehacked and the colored blood dehacked, do I just shove them both into "doom-all" and it works perfectly fine? What about megawads with custom palettes? Do I have to remove the spritefix dehacked from the folder?

i need some half life forums active like doomworld

>>9060690
your best take is moddb with xaser and xash3d

>>9060649
>PrBoom
>pure vanilla
lmao

>>9060648
>Woof is technically MBF with a PrBoom+ facelift, but a Crispy Doom aesthetic.
Fresh code base too, it's PrBoom alternative which wasn't tossed over multiple maintainers for decades
>Team TNT>Rob and the team>Budko>Graf>Fabian>Kraflab
In its case I imagine something harmless as ENDOOM support isn't as aneurysm threatening, but who knows?