/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
See picture for details
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
>>9010641 Beta as of 6-15: https://files.catbox.moe/0nx13f.zip

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
400 MINUTES OF /vr/
Idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/400minvr

VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ (Latest)

=== NEWS ===
[06-18] Woof! 10.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/post/2509207

[06-16] Altars of Madness released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129616

[06-15] Shamus Young passed away from cardiac arrest
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129781

[06-11] The Force Engine 1.0 beta is almost done with hardware rendering
https://twitter.com/DF21net/status/1535642950939574277

[06-11] Pico Doom updated to 1.5
https://youtu.be/WORdFS8nU9k

[06-10] Duke Nukem movie in the works
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/duke-nukem-movie-1235162997

[06-09] SLOOTER is now in early access
https://buxomdev.itch.io/slooter

[06-08] La Tailor Girl updates to 1.83
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1221327#p1221327

[06-07] GZDoom 4.8.0 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75532

[06-06] Turok 2+ mod released, extensive revamp for Turok 2
https://youtu.be/snx0QopGr-8

[06-04] Quakewulf releases a map for Quake 2
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/back4good.zip

[06-03] RAMP 2022 announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129564

[06-03] Action Quake is now free on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1978800/AQtion/

[06-02] JPCP2 has been announced
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm40533066

[05-30] 400 Minutes of /vr/ is on idgames

[05-28] Pandemonia 2.2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60984

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

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>>9025639
94 Protons Of /vr/ - The Anchor Post
See pic in news post for rules.

MegaUpload: https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA
>Proton Pack 1.4 (main assets)
>PROTDECO10 (patch for testing your levels in GzDoom)
>94SplatDefault, 94SplatNC-HUD (Updated)
>A collection of MIDIs for mappers to use (please stake a claim on a MIDI you've settled on so that we don't get doubles)
If the assets update, I'll reply to this post stating so.

Slots:
>E1 Boss Level, x2 Paratamizers as a finale: Unclaimed
>E2 Boss Level, potentially a revamped Icon Of Sin fight with new graphics and him being able to attack, but other suggestions are open: Unclaimed
>Hunted clone: Unclaimed
>Hunted clone 2, if it's different enough from the first one: Unclaimed
>Optional Dead Simple clone: Unclaimed
>Large city battle level akin to Odyssey Of Noises: Unclaimed

Minimum Goal: 15 Maps Total
Current Submissions: 4 Maps
Submissions In Progress: 5?

To Do:
>% doesn't load
>touch up Status Bar
>M_DOOM
>Interpics (optionally one per episode)
>E2 Boss
>E3 Boss
>Chainsaw
>Fist
>Shotgun (done, just needs converting to MBF21)
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma
>BFG9000

Reply to this post with submissions or questions.
Please repost this at the start of new threads, adding up the submission number or version numbers.

>>9025652
>Nice imps

>>9024410
Bumping this again, the patch in question works just fine in bot matches, but my viewmodel gets right in my face during online matches (pic related). As far as I know, none of the servers I joined to test the patch have any kind of mods or mutators that would affect the viewmodels themselves, nor do I know if the patch in of itself is causing it somehow. And yes, I know I'm playing at a really high FOV.


Here's the patch in question just in case: https://github.com/alexstrout/foxWSFix-UT99

Duke Nukem 3D in 1996 just made Doom obsolete, and became a better game in every relevant aspect of gaming. Yea, no infighting. Infight my ass.

Duke >Doom

why in the god damn world is meta doom`s ssg hook so hideously ugly? i mean, a brutal doom fork did it better. how did they fuck it up so bad?

>>9025685
>pumps 10 doom mods in the time it takes you to fight duke tools
nothing personel

Threadly reminder that Thy Flesh Consumed is the worst Doom episode

>>9025769
Git gud.

>>9025685
Duke's gunplay was worse than Doom.

>>9025789
I don't fully agree, better pistol, better shotgun, about comparable rocket launcher and chaingun, devastator slightly edges out plasma rifle.
Doom does have the berserk fist, the super shotgun, and BFG, though.

>>9025718
Doom is for plebejans and virgins, like Super Mario.
Duke is for chads, like Sonic.

>>9025786
The hard levels are the best ones in the episode though

>>9025652
>decorate master
>simple part hard
>dumb graf

>Crash drop zerk
Never. kill uwu

>>9025769
>McGee/Romero levels
>bad

>>9025769
E4M1-2 and 6 are some of the only stock levels I care to go back to

I'm trying to play the beta on UV but I just suck at Doom
How do I stop sucking at Doom? Even vanilla Doom 2 filters me at UV, and I save at the beginning of every level to prevent pistol start.
Anything over HMP is just not fun for me, I need to savescum.

>>9025857

don't stop moving?

>>9025857
You'll probably get a lot of "just play more", which I definitely recommend, but here's some general tips I've picked up in the past couple months since joining these threads:
>Pay attention to enemy placement, and use enemies to block each others' shots
>Practice timing enemies' attacks with things like Berserk punching Hell Knights and dodging Revenenant balls so you get their timings/movements down instinctively
>Remember that Blue Armor blocks more damage than Green Armor, so only pick-up Green Armor once your Blue Armor has run-out or if you're in danger
>Look up damage values for weapons and enemies, you don't need to memorize the numbers, but get a feeling for which weapons deal damage close to certain enemies' health (for example, how many Shotgun shots vs Chaingun bullets it takes to kill a Lost Souls vs Revenant)
>Also, look up enemy pain stun chances, as this will help you figure-out which weapons to switch to against which enemies in tight quarters (for example, if you know there's a close-quarters fight with an Archvile, Revenant, etc., save your Plasma Gun for that encounter because of the high damage and rate of fire)
There's lots more to offer, but I'm in the middle of something and just wanted to drop what I thought might help, from one relative-newcomer to another.

Also, unrelated, but Shittlecock is a better map than any one of Helter Smelter, Maybe You Dance, or Flynn Taggart Dies In Magma. I wish you had just gone anonymous, Black Crime Rates.
:'(

>>9025857
If you are having too much difficulty with vanilla Doom on UV, then perhaps you haven't been challenging yourself enough in other games. My brother spent all his life playing only easy difficulties in every game, and he can't even play Doom on HMP.

>>9025637
WHY DO I LIKE DOOM 2 BUT HATE DOOM 2016
WHY DO I LIKE ION FURY, BLOOD WOLF3D AND DUKE BUT HATE NUWOLF
WHY DO NEW GAMES SUCK
I DIDNT EVEN GROW UP WITH THESE WHY ARE THEY SO GOOD

>>9025895
>muh wrong generation
i guess this is the right board for it. still, kys asap.

>>9025895
I hated Doom 2016 because they just turned Doom into Painkiller, and instead of going fast all the time you only go fast in short spurts. NuWolf sucked because while the setting is cool as fuck, it's just bland Call of Duty gameplay.

Ion Fury is a new game though, so I don't know what you're talking about.

>>9025818
Decorate Master sounds like a monster that fires projectiles that are lines of Decorate at you.

>>9025895
i don't mind those games except for maybe wolfenstein tnc because it was lame
at least the old ones never left and are still getting content
it's like fans owned them for a while

>>9025953
>it's like fans owned them for a while
To me it's one of the main reasons old games will be better, usually they are simple enough anyone can romhack them or make custom content for it that would be on par or even better than the original game. To do so for most of modern games it would require huge studios or great amount of effort to make something good. Of course it doesn't apply to all modern games since some of them are very moddable too, like Minecraft.

>>9025932
And those lines are the actual projectile's lines.

>>9025803
Thanks for the tips anon
Can't the name be edited to say "Crime Rates"?
>>9025889
It seems to me that first person shooters are just more masochistic than other genres and the fans that make mods want it even harder. I have been playing FPS's since the 90's, I finished many, always play on 2nd hardest difficulty and just don't see a way out of saving every 5 minutes or so.
Maybe it's like the other anon said, you need to get the rhythm of everything right to a instinctive level then it all starts to make sense.
Sometimes I dance all round groups of imps and pinkies like a ballet, punching them to death without taking a single hit, other times seems like I get destroyed without scoring a single jab.
Also too many fucking traps on every mod

>>9025639
OPTIONAL update for 512 Lines' Slivovitz Liver Massacre:
>defused the Star Room. I think it's too easy now, so if lead doesn't think it's too hard as it lead, ignore this update.

https://files.catbox.moe/nkvs4b.wad

>>9025819
They’re some of McGee’s worst, though.

>>9025916
Since nuDoom 2 and its DLC, I’ve come to appreciate 2016’s early attempt at non-linear level design. The rest of it and 99% of its sequel do not get as open-ended or loopy as those few early 2016 levels, even when its real basic shit like choosing which gorenest you want to be locked up with. Could never finish the neoWolf games, beat Ion Fury about three times.

>>9025663
Say, do I need to use attached midis?

Shit auger zenith with Freedom enemies is great.

But the sprites seem to be confused while in the shooting sprite. Is there any work around?

>>9025639
Hands of Necromancy released on Steam.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1898610/Hands_of_Necromancy

>>9025857
Just play it like any other modern first person shooter. It makes it easier. I don't even play with the auto aim on. Try out some user made stuff from the 90s. Often times a lot of those tend to be easier than the doom games themselves. It can help build up the skill.

Also, general advice.
Use shotgun on imps and anything larger.
If you tap fire the chaingun, it always shoots center so you can use it to snipe but it's preferable to keep it to zombies, imps if shell ammo is low, or when you're getting swarmed. For when it comes to being swarmed the plasma gun and bfg9000 are better. Rocket launcher on things bigger than pinkies, but not on cybers. They're immune to splash damage. Better to use the plasma gun or bfg9000 if you can get in close since the spreading splash damage from the bfg is relative to the player instead of the actual ball. You have to face the enemies, and be within range, for the bfg9000 to spread.

Double barrel shotgun is a straight upgrade over the shotgun but it's still better to use the single shotty when dealing with imps and zombies unless they're blobbed up. Then the double barrel is better. Also, if you ever hit a pinkie with a double barrel and want to conserve ammo, switch to the pistol or chain gun. They hardly ever survive one shot but if they do they have like 20 hp left. If you can count on the fly you can conserve ammo pretty far. Don't forget that the monsters will fight one another if they hit each other in cross fire. Sometimes, one of the best ways to get through something is to simply show yourself, let them crossfire, and then hide until they stop shooting at each other.

>>9026148
Seeing a lot of necromancer themed stuff lately. Even mods.
Maybe we are getting closer to a perfect necromancer game one day.

Arcanum is right humans really are necromancers.

>>9026127
Are you running it with D37_AlternateBlaster.wad? There are some edited zombie shooting frames in there.
If that is the case, stop loading that wad alongside A:Z, or open it in slade and delete everything except the DSPISTOL sound lump.

Is it just me or is the 3rd episode of blade of agony not that great?

>>9026173
Ah yes that makes sense even If I never edited doom stuff. Honestly I looks pretty easy to edit stuff in doom.

>>9026148
Well this is no Hedon in terms of scope but it certainly looks interesting. Thanks.

>>9025637
>doom
more like dumb LMFAO

>>9026060
No, those are optional.

Is eternity good for mapping? I love the almost seamless portals but it doesn't have much else that MBF21 or gzdoom can't do.

>>9026175
Third episodes seem kind of cursed.
>>9026162
>imps surviving shotgun blasts
This tilts me so I prefer chaingunning them if they’re alone.

>>9026195
It's over guys, delete the wads, erase the idgames, stop 94 Protons development, Doom is over.

>>9025895
i like all of them except Ion Fury lol

>>9025663
>>9026217
Well, I guess I'm just gonna have to burn this new version of Watered Down asap. Put it on a flash drive and throw it into the pyre. Sorry guys, you heard the man. Here, have a copy so you can burn it too
It just fixes a bunch of texture alignment problems (hopefully), replaces some textures, and makes the exit teleporters more faithful to the example ones in protest.wad. Also switches the death and regular exit around.
https://files.catbox.moe/9nglzf.wad

>>9025637
I cleared the Warpspasm mod and am intrigued about how in the penultimate level, there seems to be some strange mechanic in regards to how some enemy waves just won't spawn if you aren't looking in the correct direction for them to ambush you

>>9025803
That's not an inaccurate comparison. Just like Mario, Doom is still going strong to this day. Just like Sonic, Duke had a good trilogy of games and everything that came after was complete mediocrity and the series became a laughing stock and shell of its former self.

>>9026278
I wonder if Duke would’ve been the best FPS that year if it weren’t for Quake, and even then the basegames for them both are pretty close. Only other ones I remember coming out that year were Descent 2 and Skynet.

>>9026195
Duke bros we just keep winning

Question from someone who doesn't really understand how source ports and shit work: If a game like Selaco or Supplice is on GZDoom, does that mean it's essentially a big Doom mod?

>>9026317
Usually, but Selaco specifically has its own custom GZdoom build.

>>9026317
gzdoom is just the engine, its like saying any unreal engine game is a UT4 clone

>>9026317
Is Trepang2 an Unreal Tournament mod because it runs on Unreal Engine? Exactly.

>>9024657
>Are there any suggestions you would make to the map order? I would particularly like to know how to make the early game more fun.
No clear ideas. It's tough to think about because there are many dark uac-ultra-textured techbase maps that are thematically cohesive with each other but pretty much nothing else is. So while there probably shouldn't be too many of them in a row, picking anything from the rest to sprinkle between them feels out of place and arbitrary. In any case I think the first few maps should leave a less claustrophobic first impression. iron512 could go lower for that purpose without departing from the theme. Difficulty- and simplicity-wise 511 lines of horror could perhaps go lower. Touchplate trouble should go somewhere higher.

>>9026317
If you put in the effort, I'd imagine you could make it work.

>>9026317
I say it depends on effort. Selaco plays and feels like something new where the difference is larger than going from doom to heretic. Or even larger than ashes which is already incredible.

>>9025637
You're fucking obnoxious when do you shutup with these threads?

We get it you hate our childhoods because we had freedom back then and you don't want to give it back to us unless it's through some dumb ass video game

Fuck you too shit for brains

Is blade of agony worth playing

I absolutely love the Oddball. 10/10 weapon. Love making Jackboots wander around bleeding to death so I can run up and smack 'em.

>magnolia
>hmp is identical to uv
>you have to prove to ribbiks, personally, you can beat hmp before he sends you the proper wad, or more likely he's shitposting
>apparently it's just to filter out people whining that UV is too hard because they're retards who dove into a ribbiks wad
kind of massively homosexual not gonna lie
also it's mostly puzzle shit and pacifist fights from the looks of it

does rekkr on steam come with the wad itself? would rather play it in an oldschool port if possible.

>>9026371
>abloo bloo bloo
Making faggots like you cry is proof that he's incredibly based

>>9026378
how else would it come? unless he switched engines somehow or it was a .pk3 for whatever reason

>>9026378
Yes, but IIRC it doesn't work as an IWAD in oldschool ports, you'll need to load it on top of Ultimate Doom.

>>9026365
It absolutely juices Babuins too.

>>9026380
not sure how that's crying but alright, don't think ribbiks particularly needs a defense force either with how popular he is but you do you

Impressive amount of not caring

>>9026148
I'm getting some witchaven vibes from the crunchy weapon and enemy spritework

>>9026148
Oh hey, some /vr/gins worked on this. Nice.

>>9025902
>you are a bad person because you do not like new thing
you're on the wrong board for that attitude

>>9026395
Revenants have terrible posture, so their head sticks out well in front of their actual hitbox when viewed at an angle.

Thoughts?

>>9026323
Pretty sure it's just extra shit in it's GZDoom pk3.

>>9026416
I always knew they were nerds

>>9025637
Is that mod real? Is it an actual kart mod?

>>9026434
It's Doomware, the kart segments are just simple mini-games. SRB2 Kart as far as I know is the only complete Doom kart mod.

>>9026436
It's the only one that has escaped the curse.

There's still no completed space pirate mod.

>>9026436
SRB2 Kart is fun. A shame the development for version 2.0 looks to be going in the direction of unfun feature bloat.

>>9026416
your posture would be shit too if you had two bigass rocket launchers bolted onto your shoulders
and no muscles or flesh to support them

>>9026419
Not really retro or fits into this thread, but it's pretty good. I just wish Postal 4 was as good as this.

>>9026416
>in front
Their head also sticks about the entire-fucking-thing above their hitbox.
Niggas hittin they heads on doorways like Stormtroopers SMFH this ain't even Dark Forces!!!

Map20 of 400 minutes of /vr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noG5CJl95f4

>>9026524
>Not really retro or fits into this thread,
Is it not a Postal 2 (2003) expansion? It’s not a 90s FPS but may be retro.

>>9026543
Yeah, it's retro now. We always had little tidbits of postal 2 discussion before the rule change anyway, it was "honorary retro" along with Serious Sam.

>>9026537
In vanilla, sure.
Revenants are scaled closer to human skeleton size in HD.

Does Powerslave have any good mods?

>>9026552
>scaling Revs down fixes the height overhang, but not depth
Didn't even realize HiDes "fixed" the height either DESU, just thought Revs got shrunk like those lil bitty pinkies (I don't know shit about HiDes)

>>9026565
There are full sized pinkies, too.
Someday I'll finish this.

>>9026392
I've been making good use of it for that.

>>9026565
The clone-stamped face on the kid with the blue shirt in that pic is incredibly cursed.

>>9026602
>:^|

I'm the anon that's bad at Doom, just finished map 02 of the 512 beta and man, it's so fucking hard, you guys are getting masochistic, wtf. Had lots of fun with 2048 and HFFM but 512 is throwing archviles at me like Plutonia throws revenants what's up with that? saved the level 6 times to beat it.

99% of my hdest deaths are a regular imp fireball that brings me from 100 to 0 while I'm spamming a 180 degree turn keybind and chugging a blue potion and on top of a water floor texture

>>9026554
The Build one?
There are a handful of graphics mods for buildgdx/raze and a mini-episode: Return to Ruins.

For the rerelease, nothing substantial yet.

>>9026614
>masochistic
A sadist is the one who gives, the masochist is the one who receives.
512 Linedefs' map order admittedly needs some work though, have you played 400 minutes?
>>9026624
Are you crouching? A regular imp fireball shouldn't do that. but a big homing ball or full mage volley might.

>>9026624
Hellbound's been fucking my shit up with those close quarters hellknight fights

>>9026635
Believe you me, I am doing every animal mascot from early 2000s fire PSAs proud, and I know about the attack that floats up in the air and the one that shoots a tight shotgun blast of 5, a regular fireball does it often enough

And I still don't know whether green armor is fire resistant or highly flammable, I have seen youtube comments in poor english saying both

>>9026651
Hohoho, this fucking room.
>>9026652
Green armor is supposed to absorb some of the fire so you can take it off and it will burn separately from you, but IIRC Matt broke it at some point.

>>9025675
Bumping this once more cus fuck it

>>9026614
Map order isn't finalized, feel free to skip maps if they bust your asshole open. Some of the maps after 02 are easier, and some of the 20's are easier than some of the 00's.
Try MAP21. :^)

>>9025889
Is there an Evil Dead TCM or wad? Seems like an idea someone would have tried to execute already.

>>9026624
Normal imp fireballs don't apply that much heat, don't worry about putting yourself out. If you get hit by enough that you'd be set on fire, you're probably dead from the raw damage anyway. Blues also don't do anything to help your short-term survivability, pop a stim instead.

>>9026736
Like, back in 1996. It's fun.

Yeah, I still like playing on I’m Too Young To Die, what of it?

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/90464-how-to-get-rid-of-mappers-block/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/90469-how-to-make-maps-people-will-want-to-play/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/91288-how-to-be-a-good-playtester/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93901-five-steps-on-how-to-start-a-map/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/95391-how-to-plan-a-map-on-paper/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93969-how-to-make-a-puzzle/
Thoughts?

>>9026747
Explorer more than fighter

>>9026752
HOOOOOOOOLY SHIT I'm not reading that.
But 40oz was a pretty good mapper at the time so if you're getting into mapping then these are definitely worth a read, there's bound to be good advice here.

>>9026265
it is a thing you can do with triggers, but I don't remember that in Warpspasm. if you mean the level on your screenshot, there's a spot where you pass under an arch but enemies only appear with a delay, so it looks as if you've triggered something without progressing further.
you can always extract the entities and look at how it's done.

>>9026772
>But 40oz was a pretty good mapper at the time
Ego sure got the best of him.

>>9026020
I'm the same way with fighting games. Despite all the hours I've put in, I still have trouble executing a simple fireball when playing against human opponents. I just get so worked up and I'm a fucking butterfingers I guess. I gave up on it.

>>9026395
What addon are you using that adds the laser targetting?

>>9026948
That's the laser/light module from Ugly as Sin.

>>9026949
I see, thanks. I haven't been using that mod much, I must have missed that option. One thing I've always wondered about Ugly as Sin, does anyone know what enabling Advanced AI changes?

>>9026961
A lot of the AI changes broke from a revamp in HD itself, so they're disabled.

>>9026961
The only functioning parts of it left give lights/lasers to zombies and robots, and negatively affect enemy aggression and accuracy when they're at low health.

>>9025663

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jogf6w1fne4riwh/A2RobExspiravitOppidum.wad?dl=0

Map name is "Exspiravit Oppidum"
Midi is "Rushing Headlong" by Jeremy Doyle

>>9026419
I enjoyed it, especially the special pigeon mission.

>>9026989
THEY AIN'T GOT NO BUDGET FOR PIGEON MISSIONS, YOU FUCKIN' KIDDIN' ME?!

more like dinnerdinner lol

Shitwads?

>>9026419
Still haven't played it. Postal 2 was one of my favorite games back when it first came out. I think I saw someone on g4 shitting on it and so I convinced my grandmother to buy it for me and I played it on her bottom tier consumer pc which was still the best one that I had access to. I play through it every few years and then after apocalypse weekend came out I play through that too, but since Paradise Lost came out I'm too burned out to play through it after AW but my autism won't let me start PL out of sequence.

>>9027062
https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/

>>9026743
But no one else has attempted it since? Just seems like a logical theme for any Doom fan to want grafted onto Doom, especially considering how deep some modders have gone on completely different settings combined with Doom. I suppose an Evil Dead FPS might be better suited on Build though.

That ED mod easy to google or hidden away on some old forum? Maybe I have to say some fancy words in a special order to get it?

So I decided to put loki1999 down for some time. I'll return to it later. However, I decided to pick up the 512vr beta just to give the entire wad file a run through with my mod. As always I'm aiming for 15ish minute marks per recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBvtDxNQizM

>>9027072
https://rentry.org/8ca3061522e0

>>9026747
You do what you want anon. I feel a little better about mostly playing on Hurt Me Plenty now though.

ok so

>>9027102
"That's for what you did to 9!"

>>9027102
>>9027112

>>9027112
Brilliant

>>>/wsg/4585076
Let's see if I can cross-board link properly this time

>>9027076
Continuing but I decided I wanted to listen to the Quake 2 OST. It goes good with every fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4K4SI-pW40

>>9026341
Wow that was fucking easy Lol

>>9027136
Wicked sick.

>>9027132
My continuation of 512vr beta. After dying to the sludge I learned how to use the sludge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1f3ENgPYyk

>>9027136
It's good to see you.

>>9027076
>>9027132
>>9027175
Never mind the jumping/crouching/filtering, what the fuck even is this bloated disaster of a gameplay mod?

>>9027237
Makes doom fun

if your map disables jumping but forces me to cross a doable but just wide enough to be annoying gap to access an area that I have to visit multiple times I'm fucking stealing something out of your house.

>>9027267
This is why I love my rpg mod. I have the tools to overcome obstacles.

>>9027175
>cheating to enter the map with all keys beforehand
>visibly lost and just clicking whatever
What the hell is this?

>>9027294
You're just jealous

>>9027294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4BrWctogJo
It's just stuff I have collected from prior maps. Plus, playing maps freely makes for unpredictable gameplay. I like being able to keep everything through new games.

Lots of setusercvar. I was thinking of having like an infinite loop script that checks inventory and writes everything to variables periodically but I chose to only have it do that on special scripts and in dialogues. Might just make a key bind to write to variable when I feel like quitting to start a new game but haven't activated the script lines instead of consulting the bank or jumping into a random map to activate the script. Though I will be farming for invulnerability spheres to complete this map set. It is quite difficult.

is it a pain in the ass to host a dedicated server for either UT99 or Quake 3 on a modern PC running Debian Linux? Apologies if this is really entry level. I've never run a server for a game.

>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129861-2mappers2guns-an-anarchy-community-project-experiment/
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129874-2mappers2guns-anarchy-community-project-corrected-disclaimer-relaunch-edition/

I didn't expect tranny mods to let it run for long but they shut it down even faster than I expected.

>>9027306
>>9027386
You’re kind of ruining the underpinning of how the map functions properly (for things like monster closets, proper sequencing etc). It’s kind of bizarre that someone would want to approach maps like that.

>>9027395
>Doomworld clearly establishes they will not allow WADs that say faggot or nigger
>Project OP says it will probably say faggot
>Thread gets locked
Wow... shocking...

>>9027416
I think it's better to just leave him to play with his toys.

>>9027136
Long time no see. P copl. Does it zigzag against barriers til it works it's way around, or is it mostly just bee-lining it for the player?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqy2kTBT4as
I like the randomness of it all. I played doom the way you're supposed to for so long that eventually I could just kind of auto-pilot it. This mod gives me a sense of progression and can legit give me a rise when the action picks up. I'm just filling a void the gaming industry failed to capitalize on.

I think I'm doing pretty well for my first plays outside of that one map I did the other day where it had no textures. I did better second time around but I still had to use an invulnerability sphere for it.

>>9027436
mostly bee lining, technically the collision should cause it to slide against walls, which seems to work, but the collion is a little janky, and it could still easily get stuck.

I did some inventory management between recordings on this one since organizing inventory isn't action. I spend more time lost than anything but at least I was able to grow some of my ammo stores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN3bHIcqDYQ

>>9027591
Just more 512vr. I repeat that same map from before in this one fully clothed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0DPH5SSvac

>>9027601
The farming episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRq1JKosKiE

>>9027420
>Project OP says it will probably say faggot
Nah he didnt, he just said not to take anything too seriously, and even the hypothetical scenario already made Mike and the rest cry
Are there any good wads similar to this where everyone edits a single map?

>In the Euclidean case, equality occurs only if the triangle has a 180° angle and two 0° angles, making the three vertices collinear,
Use this for mapping

>>9027751
>boring equilateral triangles
No thanks.

>>9025685
Thank you for your opinion sir.
Have a good day.

>>9027663
There was Doom -1, but that went beyond one map. https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128549-doom-1-negative-one-beyond-the-experiment-release-thread/

>>9027267
lmao just tweak the MAPINFO lump

>>9027237
let people enjoy things

>>9027909
He didn't tell him not to enjoy it. He was just asking what the fuck is it, which is a pretty good question. You can call something shitty but still let people enjoy it.

>>9027909
I never told him not to play it, and I still haven't gotten an answer.

>>9027130
Well I cross-posted correctly, but I forgot to link the fucking (WIP) map.
------------------------
camp_wip2.wad
https://mega.nz/file/4p0FyDAK#E6aclNz_4HmDSIzLFzbyiy-kUoZRv67rSGXPBHmQwUQ
Format: MBF21
Tested in Woof! (9.0.0) and DSDA-Doom (0.24.3)
------------------------
There's still a lot of detailing to do, and the encounters need more balancing, but I wanted to put it in somebody else's hands to get feedback (at least one anon showed interest in comparing this version vs the old one.)

>>9027017
Come on, Vince. It's for the kids.

doom running on a lego brick
https://80.lv/articles/engineer-got-doom-working-on-a-lego-brick/

>>9027136
totally forgot about this

Why can you kill cyberdemons in 8 headshots with the rocket launcher? Who thought this was a good idea?

>>9028051
Ask Mark.

What did it mean by this?

>>9028075
>that last image
Extra marinara, in my doom?
More likely than you think.

>>9026614
Playing through 512 beta, maps 3 and 4 felt much better, didn't feel like I was being trolled time after time, managed to power my way through on UV without savescumming and even got a little too cocky until a rude revenant killed me at the end of 4 (100% my fault for being caught by surprise)
The end of map 3 is fucky though, both the HOM once you look behind after the final elevator goes down, and the way it is built, I ran to the stones in the middle of the lava but I was supposed to wait for the elevator to go up then jump to the platform instead?
Anyway I'm much happier and more interested in playing the rest of the wad now

>>9028108
>managed to power my way through on UV
Why don't you people just play on hmp?
Skill levels are not implemented for nothing.

>>9028110
It can be a lottery whether the author has implemented difficulty settings in some maps, I remember 400 mins map01 didn't have any differences, at least in the RC phase.

>>9028121
Don't we always specify to implement skill levels?
In any case, playing above one's skill and then complaining it's too hard is dumb. See also: that one recent fag whining about that one Ribbicks wad.

>>9028129
That's right, but even then the lower skill levels rarely get tested so the difficulty can be often uneven or not as well balanced. Funny you mention Ribbiks, because I really like his approach to difficulty settings, where the medium difficulty actually feels like an average wad on UV and hard is really hard.

I posted about feedback on the map order yesterday, but Windows ate my graphics card so I'm gonna fail you there, my captain. Gomen'nasai.
>>9028129
I don't think he was just complaining that the map was hard. I think he was complaining that MAP02 was so hard for its slot (its the hardest of the first 6 maps IMO). It's one thing to drop down to HMP in, like, the last half or 1/3 of maps. But if people drop down at MAP02 (or just plain get filtered), then it might screw with their expectations of the following maps.
You could just as easily say "skip maps if they're too hard", but considering the megaWAD format, there are preconceptions people have about how it should progress—like getting progressively harder as it goes, rather than being a straight-up roller coaster.
(Also, some mappers might get butthurt that their maps are behind the "filter", which is fair considering they can't FORCE players to skip the hard maps and give theirs a try.)

>>9028163
>I think he was complaining that MAP02 was so hard for its slot
Yes, and that is fair. I was taking offense at "powering through UV", and sorry guy I quoted if I am now homing in on you, but I don't understand why people try to "power through" if it's not fun for them.
I played through Ad Mortem on hmp and still got my ass kicked often enough, so I wouldn't try to "power through" on UV because I wouldn't find it fun.

>>9028129
Difficulty is not the same as skill level. Map 2 on HMP is harder than maps 3 and 4 on UV.
I had so much fun at maps 3 and 4 on UV, I don't really feel like I should be playing the entire wad on HMP or lower because of one map. And I almost gave up. I know beating the odds is a great feeling and git gud is a genuine passion for some but difficulty should scale. If I'm already having fun with a wad I'm more likely to invest time and effort into overcoming difficulty on later maps.

>>9028075
>entire fucking rock concert at the back off the knee

>>9028075
Fucking kek
Keep going for the other eps

>>9028186
Well, if I'm gonna fag-about as Devil's Advocate, I might as well point out that "powering through" is something you'd do if you're looking to improve, too. It's hard to practice a difficult game, and get better at it, without getting invested enough that your frustrations boil-over. So I think it's more like powering-through a tough workout more than powering-through, say, a prison sentence.
However, you probably already have an idea of why people might hate the idea of a good workout, so consider that as part of my analogy well. Your ideas of pacing yourself on difficulty aren't wrong, but I feel like you dismiss how uninformed and uninvested most people are in anything besides soda pop entertainment—possibly for good reason, if their lives outside of vidya are stressful enough already.

>>9028249
Absolutely true what you say, but in that case I won't complain about it (to other people).

Is there a way to make one line trigger two things at once in boom/mbf21? The left linedef in the screenshot teleports the player and the right one just a pixel before triggers an event to happen. I want to make sure that the player cant somehow trigger the first one, back away and not teleport to the room where it takes place - is putting them one unit apart enough?

If anyone's getting filtered it would be me by the fucking stealth marines with shields and zms
why do they also have shields too matt, they were already stupid difficult in older versions and now have a shield buffer too whyyyyyy

>>9028265
Put second linedef on teleport exit?
t. never made a doom map

>>9028265
You can split a linedef and put two different specials there, but that of course warrants making the corridor tight enough so the player will pass both in any case. But yeah, putting them one unit apart should work if you tick the pass use flag.

>>9028265
It would be hard to exploit for sure. I think linedefs can overlap but you'll need to untoggle merge geometry first. Or split into segments shorter than 32 units.

Found a very nice Quake 2 map with higher res textures for its time
it goes by the name of hercules drive

>>9028304

>>9028308

>>9028075
That's Adrian Carmacks's hairy leg. Don't ask me how I know this, I'm Doom buff.

>>9028274
>>9028284
>>9028286
Thanks anons, I'll either leave it like it is or split into two and make a tight corridor

>>9028318
also the maps are DM friendly

>>9028308
Evening skyboxes like that are the coziest

>>9028262
You've got a stronger will that me, I bitch about hard shit all the time. I'll deadass call a good encounter SHIT until I actually figure-out what the designer was going for (usually crowd control, I'm so god damn bad at crowd control). But I also appreciate that it's faggy whining and little else; it's venting, so if you call it out as that, then you're completely justified (altho bitching about specifics can be a subtle plea for help.)
I think I'm just excusing my own behavior at this point. Sorry for the rant.

>accidentally replace my entire zscript file with a single character I was searching for
>don’t catch it until the auto backup is gone
>didn’t manually backup my pk3 file like a fucking idiot
>have to rewrite all my classes

Just a reminder. Don’t be an idiot like me. Keep multiple backups of whatever you are working on in separate folders, don’t put all your classes in one file. Better yet use version control. Just don’t be like me

>>9028339
My fucking condolences.

>>9028323
WHAT THE FUCK
the minute I posted it the first setup stopped working, splitting it equally in a tight corridor doesnt work either. Fucking weird, the first idae worked for atelast 5 times I tested and now it doesnt

>>9028269
You're still on a very outdated version if they have either of those things. They're just cloaked shotgunners now, no shield or insane HP or hitbox phasing.

Got a batch file generating the ISOs from 512 Linedefs. If anyone has requests I'll crop and post 'em under a spoiler, but otherwise here's a link to the folder: https://mega.nz/folder/IxlQEJ6K#FPsjd0c9iBwA-dUrflUtlg
I'm adding them a couple at a time as the job runs, so it'll be a little bit before they're all in there (especially if my display/graphics driver eats itself alive again today.)

>>9028376
God damn me, I forgot to attach a pic: fan-favorite Touchplate Trouble.

>>9028369
>hitbox phasing
Somehow I missed whatever version was that. I did get to suffer in the one version where it legit had like 900hp back when damage values were much lower and it could shoot back even during hitstun and it also regenned health insanely quick too before (and technically everything above a shotgunguy also regenned health cause there was no bleeding from 9mm) so that was fun.
Cloaked shotgun with how they nerfed shotguns entirely vs the player due to green/blue armors work with just negating the blow is a bit too weak, but at least its a credible scary threat to get randomly oneshot when you don't have armor.
At least they don't take half a vulc on fuller auto to kill... and 9mm and shotshells are effective... but fuck me man.

>>9028325
>>9028318
>>9028308
>>9028304
Looks good

>>9028406
it was made with high end pc's using P3 at the time
it is at the super pack 2 at moddb

Are there any other sourceports that do software rendering with dithering like Doom Retro?

>>9028075
Looks like shit so it checks out.

Why is it called knee deep in the dead when it's not really revealed til much later(and never really officially) that Doomguy even has knees?

>>9028526
Why is it called Doom when you clearly have all the tools needed to survive and beat the game?

>>9028559
To be fair you don't know that the game is beatable til you beat it, and I'm sure there are several people who never beat it and/or beat it in the highest difficulty. So many people actually were doomed.

>>9028559
It's "doom" as a verb. You're not doomed, you're the one doing the dooming (hence Flynn's iconic catchphrase, "It's doomin' time.")

>>9026326
lol wut

>>9028564
Who's Flynn?

30 yo boomer here who never played any Doom games before. I get 3 months of Gamepass, so, the Xbox store version is OK to play or there is some kind of censorship or something like that?

I want to play vanilla only.

>>9028634
“Flynn Taggart” is what he gets named in the old novels.

>>9028676
It should be the same other than changed medikit sprites and censored swastikas in the secret Wolf3D levels.

>>9028683
Thanks, I was trying to think of a clever joke but yeah that's it. I like misnaming B.J. as Flynn, as a joke.

>>9028704
I keep remembering it as “McTaggart” for some reason.

>>9028683
Which are about as hilariously bad as the Planescape Torment one that decides to give the Nameless One a name.

>>9028773
>give the Nameless One a name

>>9028773
Was it really a name or an alias? Nameless One had a go-to alias in game, Adan or something.

>>9028698
Not a big deal. Thanks.

>>9028698
>censored swastikas
Devs are saying those weren't nazis

>>9028526
Why wouldn't he have knees?

>>9028683
Who's he? Doomguy? I thought Doomguy was named Stan in the first 3 games.

>>9028838
stan is from doom 2 rpg
flynn is from the novels that decided demons were aliens all along

>>9028838
Doom guy is the player. Always has been. Some players project their alter egos too much

>>9028853
So is Flynn Doomguy from the 2005 movie? Is Doom 2 RPG Doomguy not the same as Doom 1 RPG Doomguy?

>>9025637
>>9025639
UPDATED
512 lines of VR: 511 lines of Horror
Changed a whole bunch of things over the last week with regard to some feedback. A small number of tweaks to balance and some aesthetic changes mainly, but still not that different.
https://files.catbox.moe/gcva4v.wad

Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong.

>>9028879
But it's not one campaign
It's three.

>>9028879
>Only 32 maps

>>9028884
If you can't select from one of three episodes at the start, it's 32.

>>9028879
But you're right, the best wads are 10-20 maps long.

>>9028874
no, the movie doomguy is some dude name grim or something played by karl urban
d1rpg has the name "blazkowicz the third" but not sure about it having the same guy as d2rpg's stan
>>9028879
>>9028887
what is the longest doom mapset?
like as a continuous thing beyond the regular 30 map number, without counting secret levels

>>9028853
>book: Demons? No, aliens
>movie: Demons? No, aliens
For why, what’s wrong with them just being demons?

>>9028938
Not counting my mod I think I saw one back in the day that had 100 maps and they were all connected to a nice hub but you had to beat prior maps to unlock access to the next sets. I forget what it was called though.

>>9028938
>what is the longest doom mapset?
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/0-9/100kmaps

>>9028962
i'm not even sure if it was either the reactions from the public over religious stuff (like the novel writers being a mormon? need correction on that one; at least sandy himself didn't mind) or the notion that id themselves don't care about story in games at that time
i also heard that the novel writer once worked on star trek and tried to be creative with the little material, since not even final doom was out at that point
yet the astronaut and jungle covers look like they could fit the fd episodes
at least with the 2005 movie, you could blame it on some demon redesigns, even though the classic archvile was meant to look like an hr giger tribute

>>9028973
>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/0-9/100kmaps
I don't believe it

>>9028973
It's a jokewad. They all look like this.

Do good Brutal Doom variants even exist? The main one everyone shills like Project Brutality just looks like a bloated mess.

>>9027895
I originally only downloaded SLADE to do exactly this to every wad I play.

>>9028989
let's see
>burl tumd
>johnny
>that one vanilla bd thing
>the diet/cut down project that even showed off how bad the code was

>>9028989
Go into slade and enable the hardest difficulty and then play it like that. It's so much more fun.

>>9028995
I mean project brutality. Enable the hardest difficulty for that one.

>>9028996
PB's difficulty doesn't really make-or-break the mod for me. It's just ugly to look at and play. Ugly sprites, ugly animations, ugly gameplay, menu bloat... It's just unplayable.

>>9028989
I like the mod that cuts out the monsters and just leaves the weapons.

>>9028838
Doomguy is William Joseph Blazkowicz III.

>>9029003
If that's what you think about PB, then no, no good variants exist.

>>9029023
I mean, PB has an excessive amount of animation interpolation, motion blur, and retarded looking sprites. Whoever their sprite artist is just loves putting a thick black outline around everything and it looks out of place. Say what you want about regular ole BD and all of the sprites SgtMark blatantly ripped off, but they all look really good and aesthetically cohesive. PB just has too many cooks in the kitchen.

Is it true that Duke map editor is almost impossible to work with? I've been spitballing ideas for my own Duke maps that I'd want to eventually make into a full map pack and a mod.

>>9028989
>Do good Brutal Doom variants even exist?
For the kind of experience BD is looking to provide, I haven’t found anything more satisfying or refined than Babel or Dakka and I find even BD to be bloated and weird. Hideous Destructor, Combined Arms, GMOTA, and Treasure Tech are when I want something crazy.

>>9028938
Star Wars: Chibi Rebellion has 87 maps.

>>9028989
make your own
here's mine https://files.catbox.moe/hbp58w.7z

>>9029068
I've seen people make some neat stuff with it, all things considered.

Worst case scenario, people have made some pretty clever tricks in GZDoom to simulate Build engine tricks, and DN3Doom is a fantastic recreation.

>>9028897
Be the change

>>9028879
>Single-map wad
I'm not going to play your mapping experiment.
>32-map wad
Too long, won't play it. Respect your players' time.
>10-20-map wad
if you can't even commit to a full megawad length, I can't be expected to commit to playing it.
>Gameplay changes
I'm here to play Doom, not your flashy Cawwadoody bullshit
>Vanilla
Get with the times you purest sperg
>UDMF
Tryhard.

>>9029068
iirc it's just a *slightly* spruced up version of the same tools they used to make the game back in the day. Very dated, very keyboard driven.

>>9029076
Dakka is great but I don't really see it comparable to what BD is trying to do. Dakka is more like a power fantasy mod for clearing out difficult wads

>>9029106
A Boom megawad bigger than 20 maps and smaller than 32 is the perfect formula then.

>>9029010
Not canon. Doesn't matter who wrote it. I remember the 90s and that wasn't even an idea.

>>9029106
Saves is how you respect your own time though...

>>9029129
I couple it with monster packs but most of the time it’s Babel with a side of Babel anyways.

>>9029129
Dakka's somewhat overpowered but still vanilla-ish, compared to something like Pillowblaster mods that are basically just "I win" mods.

>>9029010
i think doomguy ever being related to bj stops being a thing the minute wolfenstein is rebooted with an entirely differently timeline while new doom wants to be connected to classic doom
even the cancelled keen game wouldn't make sense because that would instead create 2 keens, if you acknowledge bj's original wife and son in the strategy guide for wolf 3d
>>9029153
all i know is that bj being related to keen was in some strategy guide but doomguy and bj specifically was from some 2000's phone games that are also almost lost media
the "idverse" gets more convoluted by the minute
partially because most of this material is either so obscure or at least overlooked

>>9029185
Just because it's not pants on head overpowered doesn't mean it's vanilla(-ish).

>>9029106
>>9029130
it is. I appreciate mbf21 and upcoming comp levels, I respect megawads and single maps. Hell, I can even see pros of UDMF - but you cant go wrong with a medium length boom wad

>>9026190
the less akin to hedon, the better the game

>>9029249
Yeah it looks more simple. But Hedon looks gay, cant have it all it seems.

>>9029068
I've seen people doing amazing stuff with the editor, it just take some time to get used to it

>>9028782
>>9028773
kek

>>9029185
It's vanilla-ish in the sense that it only replaces and makes the base Doom 2 arsenal stronger, but at the end of the day it's really no different than stuff like Russian Overkill, especially with how OP the rocket launcher and BFG are. Again, it's still a great mod and I love how tight and focused it is compared to other OP easy mode mods, but it's still very overpowered.

>>9026384
>>9026378
Or Freedoom.
It's a .iwad, just change the extension to .wad and load it after doom.wad.

>>9029209
It follows most of the weapons of vanilla, aside from the scrappers.

It's not fists, trained otter, attack seagull, low yield nuclear launcher, ark of the covenant..

Map21 of 400 minutes of /vr/. One of my favorite levels in the wad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTHOElXZPcs

Quick question.

It's been a long time since I've played around with Doom wads and gameplay overhauls, so I was feeling nostalgic and wanted to get back into playing some megawads. But whenever I quit Doom 2 I keep getting the annoying "Thanks for purchasing" splash screen, which I don't remember getting back when I was modded Doom 2. Is there anyway to get rid of this shit or is the wad I'm using just a bad dump?

>>9029338
forgot pic related

>>9029338
Most ports should have an option to remove it. PrBoom+ or DSDA Doom has it off by default for once.

>>9029353
Thanks, I guess back when I was using GZDoom the option was disabled by default, it must've changed in the past few years. Guess it's time to go option dumpster diving.

>>9029359
Graf my ahve dicked with it, or if you used that vanilla experience mod I think it turns it on.

>>9029106
I know these are hypothetical responses but I got mad reading this.

>>9029303
By that logic, Combined_Arms is vanilla-ish.

>>9029418
>"Why are the oranges blue?"

Is there any possible way I can get rid of the shitty chinaman enemies from wanton destruction and just play it with the stock shadow warrior baddies?

>>9029445
More 512vr beta:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olX6B1imRBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyUhffX_W9g

I have more recordings but I hit the daily limit on YT. I didn't do my normal save and quit since I actually wanted to play doom for a hour so the episodes just cut off suddenly but do leave off where the last began. I'm going to go play more 512vr later tonight but will probably upload more videos tomorrow

>>9029445
Don't mind me I just clicked on your reply because I was being lazy again

>>9029418
I need an edit of this with chex warrior
>>9029445
The oranges aren't blue. Your eyes are.

>>9029306
:3

ayy lmao
fuck this level

>>9027581
Still cool to see something moving around the geometry.

>>9029491
I'm going to take this opportunity to say that I despise the blurry text on Eviternity's STBAR.

Post good STBARs.

>>9029551

>>9029106
Then there's only one ultimate solution.

>9 maps. 8 normal, 1 secret
The perfect formula. A tried and true strategy that has worked every single time. The platonic ideal of campaign length.

>>9029560
>Then there's only one ultimate solution
Calm down Mein Fuhrer, not in public.

Anyone play that wolf mod where you play as an escaped pow in a concentration camp? It was kinda neat. Only so much you can do with Wolfenstein tho.

>>9029553
how much ammo is δδτϿϩ

>HD
>health stuck at red, super slow, can't stop shaking
>no patchable wounds from medkit, nothing detectable from the trauma kit
>stimpacks don't help
I didn't realize you can run into this sort of dead end, do I seriously need to find a soulsphere or blue pot?

>>9029619
Supernatural damage will eventually need supernatural healing. Balefire and sometimes Pinky bites can cause aggravated damage that can't be healed by conventional means. Try and catch it when it caps you at yellow next time.

>>9029619
How are your burns and blood loss looking? Aggravated damage exists but unless you somehow overdosed on zerk and didn't collapse into jelly, you're probably not going to be suffering from that much of it.

>>9029625
>>9029624
>realized burn management
Oh there we go, back in yellow at 60-79% face

>>9029470
>suddenly your eyes turn completely blue and grow two, smaller eyes

>>9029634
Oh it was burns, yeah that makes more sense. You don't usually accrue much aggro unless you're playing a full megawad and catching several balefire balls every map. (which I guess if you were the anon playing Hellbound it would be possible)

>>9029614
88.

>>9029641
It's embarrassing because I remember reading that part of the manual before starting this playthrough, it slipped my mind entirely and wasn't relevant until now.
>You don't usually accrue much aggro unless you're playing a full megawad and catching several balefire balls every map.
Thankfully, every balefire hit so far has managed to kill me so I may be able to rule that out also yes

>>9029418
Sorta with the base weapon set and decreasing with each subsequent set?

We're in the home stretch for 512 Lines now. Still open to replacing the title and intermission midis.

>>9029689
I can usually shake off 1 HK bale-ball and survive (with +30-40% burns) but I mainlined blues and quicksaved like a motherfucker when i played Hellbound. One of these days I'll go back to it with my current experience and try to play as much of it as I can saveless.

>>9029474
what mod???

>>9028559
More like why is it called Doom when the soundtrack is Thrash?

>>9029726
I got into it awhile ago, gave up, and am back at it. It really suits HD.

>>9029717
Alright yeah, fair enough.

>>9029689
>>9029726
A single balefire tends to do between 25 to 50% burns per hit, even with green armor. It gets somewhat more manageable with a radsuit but it's still disgusting strong. Possibly the nastiest thing you could get hit by that doesn't immediatly kill you, outside of perhaps, getting bit by a NP or getting buckshotted without armor. Two in a row is guaranteed death. After a balefire, it's completely normal to empty 1 or 1 and a half medkits worth of sutures to restore yourself to full. Aggravated damage from balefire is also more common than just Imp fireballs as it also tends to have a poisonous element to it that pierces whatever defenses you got thanks to the fire and seeps into your system.
On that note. Do NOT play around in nukage without a suit. It'll do more aggravated damage compared to lava's heavy burns.

>>9030037
20 damage hurtfloors are the fucking worst in HD. Fuck 20s. All my squadmates hate 20s.

>>9030037
>Do NOT play around in nukage without a suit. It'll do more aggravated damage compared to lava's heavy burns.
Does HD check the texture for this? Or does it use just consider certain floor damage amounts nukage and others lava?

>>9030047
HD checks textures for deciding when tiles are "water" or "vines" (in the case of plutonia, yes it checks for final doom textures too) and actually lets you remove being "on fire" faster if you shake yourself ontop of it. Technically nukage also helps with removing fire but it's not viable at all and you'll likely die faster instead. It wouldn't suprise me if it checks for both.
20 damage hurtfloors tend to set you on fire though, regardless if it's got lava on it as a texture or not. If the floor isn't a damage floor, it won't apply whatever nasty effect the texture is supposed to do to you and may actually be used as a water tile for the purposes of extinguishing yourself, see nukage tiles on the secret of AV MAP01.

Obviously custom textures don't matter in this.

>>9030056
I knew HD checked textures for liquids for the sake of extinguishing, I just assumed damaging floors were were done more or less the same as vanilla, like crushers.

>>9030041
20s 2 shot me in my rpg mod at 100hp without armor. So even with the suit it's a risky proposition.

>>9030068
Matt likes to put attention to detail. I'm just not sure if it's all documented properly or if all edge cases are accounted for. I could be wrong for all I know and it only checks things as vanilla does.

>>9025639
Stankonia - a complevel 9 Plutonia minisode

I made some Plutonia maps. Then my friends made some Plutonia maps. Now we have a cl9 Plutonia minisode spanning 4 maps plus 2 bonus maps. I'll release this formally on Doomworld tomorrow, you boys get first dibs.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/727328864489046110/989012122186960998/STANKONIA_RC2.wad

>>9030083
>minisode
More like minichode lol

Blood VN when?

hey fagits, we're playing GMOTA and we got room for one more anon. feel free to join /vr/troopers on zandybam

>>9025639
>>9029724
Update for 512 Linedefs of /vr/:
Touchplate Trouble (v6) [CL9] by donk_konk
https://files.catbox.moe/366yh7.zip
MIDI: Sand Canyon 3 from Kirby's Dream Land 3
Tested with DSDA-Doom v0.24.3
Added more ammo and moved around some enemies. I hope this is the final update.

>>9028676
current official versions replace the red cross on medikits with a green symbol and remove swastika/nazi stuff
just play it on PC anyways, download the doom 1 & 2 wads from OP and download the chocolate doom sourceport (totally vanilla)

>>9029068
The Duke community programmers' idea of improving the editor is adding more keyboard shortcuts every year. No menus, no context-sensitive inputs, no mouse, just key combinations. Theyve gotten to the point of using fucking ";" as a modifier like shift. So pretty much anything you can do in Ultimate Doom Builder or Trenchbroom will take 5 or 10 times as long in Mapster32. But its not impossible, people make big cool maps.

I heard Carmack wished he released the Doom source code under a BSD license instead.

YEET

>>9030090

>>9028879
Disagree, the only way a megawad can feel too long with 32 maps is if we're talking about some slaughterfest-y map or anything made by ribbiks since that dude loves to make humongously amazing maps but they are so humongous so the next logical choice is adding a shitstorm of enemies and each map takes like 30 minutes at minimum to beat (after spending 10 hours getting all of the hair in your body plucked one by one for each death).

Call it a stretch but playing co-op and beating a megawad in like 2 hours doesn't feel that long and people probably have energy to play another round (gotta love zandybam coop servers that load up hyperwads that contain multiple campaigns)

Kinda hate MAP03 of 512vr.

>>9030141
>>9030090

>>9030141
>>9030148
It doesn't know who caleb is.

>>9030168
Nobody knows who caleb is.

>>9030097
thanks for playan

>>9030097
>>9030209
How'd it go? Any major issues or glitches?

>>9030226
i got really tired of fighting bonerlords 9 maps in
we played 400minvr btw

>>9030230
Any reason why? I'd assume it's due to their self revive thing

>>9030232
they're way tankier than they look. I know I can put down an archie in 3 SSG blasts but it takes more than that with doomslayer's legally distinct gun. this is fine and all, but it gets annoying when they come in groups. i guess it's on the mapper's end

>>9027136
looking good dude

>>9030236
Ah then that's cus of the fucked up HP values of the latest public. Well that's fine. I've readjusted everything for the coming update.

>>9029724
Was MAP03 finally updated? The ending room really needs to be changed.

>>9030245
Um, no, not as I can see. Hopefully Zipon shows up to change it accordingly.

how big is your doom folder

>>9030262

Mine used to be 40 gigs until my hard drive died.

Why is everyone on Doomworld such a passive-aggressive cuck? I swear to god, these fucking losers would've all been eaten alive in the 2000s. Mental illness is rampant in that shithole.

With that Unreal Championship 2 code leak, is it possible that the leaked code can be used to decompile other Unreal Engine 2/2.5 games?
I am really hoping for a fanmade modernised source port collection of the pre-Conviction Splinter Cell games, with all the versions combined to make the ultimate versions on PC and homebrew devices.

>>9030440
All the Splinter Cell games pre-Conviction were running on Unreal Engine 2, even Double Agent HD, Essentials on PSP and Splinter Cell 3DS.

>>9030445
Splinter Cell 1 and Pandora Tomorrow were on Unreal Engine 2.
Chaos Theory, both versions of Double Agent, and Essentials were on Unreal Engine 2.5.
Conviction and Blackout were on a modified version of Unreal Engine 2.5 called LEAD Engine.

>>9026824
Its the place in this level with the RedArmour that spawns a crapload of Vorelings from the death-trap teleporter "meat-hole"
If you'd look at their spawning spot instead of the window to the abyss outside, the ambush party fails to appear - as long as you walk along that path backwards

sandy bobandy

>>9029491
Quake 2 textures?

just don't get hit, bro

ayy lmao

TNT MAP09 UV-Pacifist TAS by ClumsyDoomer, 2019

>>9030535
>>9030538
I see this and all I can hear in my head is this on repeat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni26LQOUc3Q

HROT's episode 2 is now complete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkp7rxMxSoU

I'm getting these fucked up super shotgun animations using vsmooth and smoothed monsters together, and it's driving me crazy. Does anyone know how to try to fix it?

>want to make a custom skillmenu
>all the niggers around the internet say to look in gzdoom menudef for reference
>find this shit
for fuck`s sake i`m about to hurl. can anyone pretty please direct me where the menu is actually laid out?

>>9029932
It's not, it's more groove metal.

>>9030146
The room at the end being so fucky kinda ruins the whole thing for me DESU.

>>9029463
Well I was finally able to upload more videos to YT and I will be uploading more later on after I finish looting map21 of 512vr and farm for more invulnerability spheres because if the final maps are going to be like map21 I'm going to need the invulnerability spheres to finish it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Iat5VLu7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QbQtdwmKLk

>>9030760
>if the final maps are going to be like map21 I'm going to need the invulnerability spheres to finish it all
LunchLunch's maps are too powerful for you, traveler. MAP21 is almost certainly the hardest.

>>9030792
Map21 is certainly hard and I was confused upon entering it as well. I'm still going to farm a few doom 2 maps for invul spheres just in case...

>>9029068
how did they do ion fury?

>>9030659
I usually find skill stuff in mapinfo.

>>9030869
Painfully, even with their skill and experience dealing with build. It’s biggest issues are likely the result of said engine limitations.

>>9030148
surprisingly the AI knows who sotha sil is, and most art is him from ESO with the Bishonen looks that makes Mephala wet the floor

Does anyone know any strictly ammo Sprite replacement mods? Google isn't turning anything up. My problem being gz doom is rendering certain ammo sprites very small to the point they cannot be seen ingame.


PB ammo sprites are correct size while vanilla ammo sprites are small.

>>9030760
Since when can you hold onto a invulnerability sphere? Some mod?

>>9030917
PB probably uses texture scaling or something like that. It's rerarded voodoo.

>>9030726
I just ran out of ammo by that point. Not sure if I NEED the secrets (imo you shouldn't), but I missed one of those I think. Had to sprint past the last two hell knights. The tight collision in the shotgunner and chaingunners areas makes them hard to see, but they can shoot you from over ledges. It's not that big of a deal on the first room, and you can sprint into the teleporter in the 2nd I assume, but only if you know it's there. There were a few places in the map that felt trial and error to me.

I liked the cacodemon run a fair bit except the end result is 3-4 chaingunners pummeling you with no cover.
Might be more fun to make that happen after a drop down or point of no return. Where you HAVE to do the run. Then end up in a room that better compliments the cacos, not a death trap. I dunno, maybe it's just not for me.

>>9030949
>There were a few places in the map that felt trial and error to me.
Ya that's my problem with the ending. Actually, every magma floor is a pretty gay death pit unless you don't trigger the floor raising too many times THEN fall in the last room.
Speaking of which, the demon head walls in that room are floor-raising or lowering switches without tags. Just a fun observation from checking it out in UDB.

>>9030983
>every magma floor
Correction, there's the one next to a secret. I don't wanna be hyperbolic here, gomen gomen.

>>9030919
Yea, it's just a mod I stitched together. I wanted there to be a sense of progression and persistency so I made a basic rpg mod so I itemized everything. Normally I play doom a lot slower paced but remembering I have a recording going on makes me want to speed up. Otherwise there would be a lot more inventory management and studying the automap lol

Oh god, while the stars are aligned and both my Internet and display adapters are both working, I'm gonna' link my MBF21 map again since I've spent the last couple days finishing it (it's still "WIP" in the fact that it's the first map in a planned Episode, but it's pretty much done as a single map... The secret exit could use some more detailing too tho... Aaaagh...)
https://mega.nz/folder/F8dBHJLY#kP82jqwp5bgWfvjVvDOSTQ
Also, I'll link the old version for anyone who wants to compare the two: https://mega.nz/folder/t0thRJwT#bCLKFkWHAxTNedvbuOVsHg

>>9025663
Proton Pack updated to Version 1.6
>Shotgun implemented
>Chaingun animation fixed
>percent character now in status bar
>PSX style FireBlu substitute added, as wall and flat

>>9026259
Thank you!

>>9026976
Sweet, I'll give that a look.

>>9031058
shotgun is pretty sweet, only complaint is the value of armor seems to be to large for the box now

>>9031064
I think the numbers are too big for the status bar, they don't quite fit right.

>>9025663
>>9031058
>>PSX style FireBlu substitute added, as wall and flat
It's not the real thing, but it'll have to do.
Update for Bloody Pulp
https://files.catbox.moe/tcdkcp.7z

How did 400mins of /vr/ get released within a couple weeks and 512 lines is taking months?

>>9031098
Was a lot easier to organize, back then.
Perhaps more active mappers too but don't count me on that.

>>9031098
Same lead, everyone gets burned out eventually.
Also, the maps are there, it's the auxiliaries that are lacking.

>>9031114
>Also, the maps are there, it's the auxiliaries that are lacking.
What is still missing?

>>9030760
So I did another hour the same way as the last 4. Currently uploading the 14th episode. On episode 15 though I'm going to have to trim the beginning of the map because I went over the 15 minute mark for just over two minutes. Either way this is a farming episode where I go through doom 2 maps 10, 16, and 18 to farm invuls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLaKdoMzmiI

>>9031137
We're actually all good on that front. The HELP screen is still unreplaced if anyone wants to fill that in but it's not necessary. I also got MIDIs to replace the placeholders. Right now I'm rearranging the maps.

>>9031137
see
>>9029724

New 15 minutes long Golden Souls 3 presentation tomorrow, 23 June 2022 at 8 PM CET / 2 PM EST

I'll be doing a recap of the game's concept, explain a few things and also show some cool new stuff, don't miss out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfVpFL56hGs

>>9031098
>time between start and idgames release of 400 minutes: 1 month
>time between start of 512 lines and now: 1 month
Hold on to your horses, unless the final release of 512 Linedefs comes out in the next month, both wads are looking to share a similar development time.

>>9031161
>Doom 3
>The Golden Souls
The 3 should be gold colored.

>>9031161
Maybe I'll actually finish playing 2 before 3 is out.

>>9025637
R8 my (blind run) chaingun gameplay.

>>9031161
lets heckin gooooo

>>9031161
Are we getting release this year?

>>9025637
Trying to make a prison escape map for the first level of my mod and it's kicking my ass. Anyone know of some good maps that I could look at for inspiration?

>>9031185
What exactly is your problem?

>>9031189
The layout.