/vr/ - Retro Games

It was the beginning of the end, worse gameplay for the shake of graphics and cutscenes. Yes, this generation produced the most popular installments of long-standing sagas like Mario, Zelda, or final fantasy, but not the best ones. Anything and everything you hate about modern gaming can be traced back to this period.

I think n64 is the best because its the only one i owned.
Also i didnt pick it out myself. I was a child.
Im not sure what is the best now. Because i only played shmups and light gun games on saturn.
And i dont get into ps1 that much. But its pretty solid.

>>9022709
>3D platformers like Burning Rangers
Can that mess even be considered a 3D platformer?

I don't really like games with 3D graphics DESU

>>9022774
It's 3D and a platformer, so yes.

>>9022808
Viewed as a 3D platformer it's probably one of the worst ever made. Bug! and Croc are better as a 3D platformer.

Only the PS1 was good
>b-but muh favorit conso-
Don't ever bother, I'm out. See you in the next thread fags

Yeah it was great, N64 had much more than Mario and Zelda, too. Probably my most played stuff on it was Wave Race 64, F-Zero X and Goemon's Great Adventure. Oh and Pokemon League Puzzle, holy shit that one's good.
I probably prefer Saturn+N64 combo over the PS1. PS1 has a lot of good games but I realize my favorites of that gen are mostly N64 and Saturn.
Ghost in the Shell PS1 is very underrated though.

>>9022735
Loved my PSX and still return to it today but you're 100% correct. In many ways, we left 2D too soon and what a great loss to gaming that's been. Fifth gen is also when big publishers raped all the independent dev shops, team sizes got completely out of control, normalfags poured into the hobby, and said publishers changed the direction of games to suit a growing non-gamer audience.

>>9022709
I wish I had a Saturn. I also wish I knew the Saturn existed at the time. Maybe then I would have asked for that one.

PlayStation was good, but I basically really used it for FF, 1v1 fighters, demo discs, and sports games. Triple Play Baseball was fantastic and using CodeBreaker (basically another type of GameShark) for FF8 was definitely a fun experience after playing it so much. I had the most games for this one in comparison to the N64 though.

N64 was my main console even though I had more on the PlayStation. Mario 64, Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart 64, Goldeneye, Diddy Kong Racing, MK4 (the ending cutscenes made this game, trust me), NFL Blitz, Warzone and No Mercy, Mario Party 1 and 2, Bomberman 64 and Hero, and a few others. I still play a lot of these games even today. It was easily my most played console of this generation. It's just a shame that this was the the following gen wasn't as good to me. Not counting the Dreamcast, without SSX Tricky and 3, THPS 3, Burnout 3, Ninja Gaiden, DMC, SCII (GCN for Link), Viewtiful Joe, RE4 and GTA SA, I honestly wouldn't care much about gen 6 at all. Then the only console I genuinely loved playing in gen 7 surprisingly ended up being the Wii.

>>9022709
N64 had 20 FPS Zelda and 30 FPS mario

Literally nothing else lol

>>9022982
Never heard of Smash, the cultural phenomenon, yuropoor?

Let's be real, it was just PS1 and Mario 64 and Zelda

>>9022982
People didn't talk about FPSs back then, that's a modern console war ammo thing shitposters from /v/ use. Back then it was more like "the console that my parents could afford are COOL, the console your parents could afford are GAY".
Idorts always win, as always.

It honestly blew my mind when I found out PS1 had 2000 games or whatever and N64 had like 300
And I come from a Gamefaqs background, and over at Gamefaqs they idolize Nintendo. It kinda warped my view of it and goes to show how strong the power of a brand can be

>>9022709
>just elaborate "mario, zelda, the list goes on" post
go back

>>9023006
people having n64 rent free are cute to me, let them be.

>>9023002
they ran a recent poll showing how many were indoctrinated by Nintendo early on.

>>9023010
Oh no, imagine the tragedy of being "indoctrinated" by Nintendo by having been born earlier to witness the NES boom.
Should've waited a few more years to be born so they could have PS1 as their first system. Buncha boomers.

>>9023010
holy shit

>>9023014
sega and atari are on that poll, friend

>>9023010
>second highest is Atari
Imagine being 50+ years old on Gamefaqs.

>>9023002
The thing is that numbers alone aren't everything. Out of those 2000 or whatever titles there are for PS1, a lot are ports, shovelware or, if you're including jp-exclusives, there's a lot of "hidden gems" that are mostly text-based, like VNs, adventure games and the like. Not bad stuff if you ask me but barely contenders for "greatest games ever".
In terms of VIP games, N64 and PS1 have probably about the same amount.
It has nothing to do with brand recognition, in fact, people were very eager to hit on Nintendo every chance they got. There were a lot of articles about how the N64 was "failing" early on, despite games like SM64 getting great scores across all boards.
Then OOT came out and cemented the system as a VIP of the 5th gen.
And then it's not even just Mario and Zelda, lots of people enjoyed other games on N64, like the FPS, racing games, wrestling games... I get it, it's funny to paint the N64 as "mario, zelda, list goes on..." and it's curious to see how with a smaller library than the other 2, it still managed a position in the podium. But when it comes to actual good games, there's always 30 or so REALLY good ones per system, then the rest vary from decent to bad. N64 had some real stinkers but not as many as PS1 or Saturn had.
The same thing happens with NES and Master System. (although MS has some shitty arcade ports made by Sega themselves instead of original titles, Nintendo did a better 1st party work on N64)

>>9023024
Atari is too old.
Sega got more famous with the Mega Drive, Master System wasn't popular.
NES was a cultural phenomenon. If you got a NES back in the 80s, it didn't mean you were a "nintendo fanboy", it just meant you got the system that was en vogue at the time.
Are you gonna hate on the console that had Castlevania, Mega Man, Contra, etc?

>>9023035
actually it's funnier to laugh at the flop 64 and watch deluded nintoddlers with stockholm syndrome write essays defending it

>>9023010
The fact that Atari is (a distant) second and SEGA is suspect to me. What are the demographics here and was this a gamefaqs only poll? If this was a site wide gamefaqs only poll, it tells me that the average Gamefaqs user
is likely older than I thought. I'm talking mid/late 30s to 40s.

>>9022825
Nah, the move set alone is some of the best in the genre, easily outpacing Mario and his underutilized hop, skips and dives.

>>9023042
>the move set alone is some of the best in the genre
This is a new level of delusion.

>>9023039
yeah just like segautists when they try to defend the saturn or when they make their what-if threars.

>>9023037
Anon NES people would be 40 now.
"Atari is too old" lmao

>>9023040
It says nothing about demographics. If anything it says the opposite of what you're claiming. If they are that old the Sega and Atari votes should be higher.
It's not about the age, it's about it being a haven of Nintendo cultists

>>9023070
?

>>9023054
>or when they make their what-if threars.
those are actually made by nintendo fans

>>9023039
I was an idort but ok
>>9023054
chances are he's a sony fanboy. there's a reason sony fanboys always get voted first as the most annoying fanbase.

>>9023076
?

>>9023025
for how many votes that has I only ran into 3 or 4 50-year olds and I spent 10 years on that site

>>9023073
No, it says they are older. Probably mid 30s and 40s. Obviously it says Gamefaqs is a spot where the majority of those who took the poll grew up more with Nintendo than the others, but whether you like it or not, nobody in their 20s is going to say they had the Atari 2600 as their first console. You need to take in the whole poll and make inferences on that. The fact that both SEGA and to a slightly greater extent Atari cracked double digits and Sony's playstation, the most popular console for two full generations, barely got over 5%, needs to be pointed out. That's why you need more than what you posted to make any type of actual claim other than "most people who still frequent Gamefaqs and took their poll grew up more with Nintendo, then Atari, then SEGA". Going into the "why" makes me think exactly that the demographic of Gamefaq user is older since none of the other data makes me believe this is from a younger, more modern generation.

I’ve never seen a Saturn in person, most of the people I knew owned an N64 or a PSX

>>9023103
well yea it skews 30s (not 40s). It's fucking gamefaqs. but that's fucking obvious. if you thought zoomers were using gamefaqs you're dumb.
there's no other demographic info you can get from that, only that they are overwhelmingly nintendo-raised

>>9023138
people in their mid 30s claiming an atari was their first system are fucking lying. even 40 is pushing it

>>9023151
Some people are poor. Some people lie
I was born in 92 and my first system was the Spectrum and then the Megadrive. I was playing Megadrive from 98 to 2000-ish
Then my dad bought me a PS2. Imagine the boner

>>9023165
>I was playing Megadrive from 98 to 2000-ish
holy based

>>9023138
But you said where I was going wasn't didn't say anything about demographics. Also the mid 30s-40 age group accounts for 64% of the people who took part in this poll (of which not everyone even took part in for your big poll since this both taken on a different day and is less than the total of the first one you posted).

Try making a poll that isn't as general because the poll you showed only shows that, again, the majority of people who go to gamefaqs and took the poll had a Nintendo console as their first console. Maybe try some that say "What is your view of the [insert company] " and do that for each of the companies and compare from there if you want to get a better idea of a consensus for bias. I'm not saying the people who for some reason still use Gamefaqs forums don't have a favorable view of Nintendo moreso than the others, but your poll is useless if the goal is to call Gamefaqs a "Nintendo haven" as you call it.

>>9023191
first off, it wasn't me who said that. second, you clearly know nothing about gamefaqs if you think those polls are made by me. third, anyone who has spent a good time knows how much of a bias that site has for Nintendo. I don't need to prove that to you

>>9023191
first off, it wasn't me who said that. second, you clearly know nothing about gamefaqs if you think those polls are made by me. third, anyone who has spent a good time on there knows how much of a bias that site has for Nintendo. I don't need to prove that to you

>>9023206
I was going based on how you used the poll to illustrate it being a "haven of Nintendo cultists" based in your post here >>9023073 based on the poll you posted here >>9023010 where the claim is about Nintendo indoctrination. Even if you're right (and you likely are) about Gamefaqs users (just like the Neogaf types), this poll by itself isn't enough to make the claim. If you had results about favorably it would have been better. Just pointing that out.

>>9023232
Sorry, meant for >>9023207

>>9023232
why are you claiming that I'm all those people? I just told you I'm not. also why are you obssessed with proof about Gamefaqs being what it is? no one cares if you believe it or not. The people who know, know. That's all that matters

captcha: TANKR

>>9023265
Nah, it's just data and correctly reading and inferring the data from polls in general. I'd do this even if it weren't Gamefaqs or pertaining to Nintendo too. Oh well. Have a good one anyway anon.

>>9023292
the data just magnifies something people already knew to be true for years

>>9022776
based

>>9022709
>The twilight of 2D being the focus of games
Nope. ps1 and n64 focus was strictly 3D. Even the bulk of saturn games were 3D.

I would've been shocked if Gamefaqs weren't full of Nintendrones. Sure it's always had a wide reach and some support for other languages but at the end of the day it's an English-language site, the venn circles of Americans and Nintendo cultists form an almost perfect overlap.

https://vocaroo.com/ficl4O040If

>>9023010
>>9023025
Lots of young children in the 90s had leftovers from the 80s, not to mention NES and Atari games are so dead fucking simple that a 3 to 5 year old could figure them out.

Smash is truly the most Nintendo game

Ps had Tekken 3 and (a very bad port of) alpha 3

Saturn had VF 2 and (a stunning port of ) alpha 3

N64 had smash

That is the 5th console generation

PC and arcade also had great games during that generation

>>9022776
>2D

>>9022776
Yeah, I mainly was into PC games during the time the 5th gen consoles were active (and SNES for the first half of the gen). Lots of great looking, interesting 2d PC games during the era.