/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9005742
japs can't into engrish well enough to steal any more pkd stories

>>9005742
>starts from now
dropped, any translation where the tr*nslator does retarded shit like this for phrases like 今から/今日から/etc is automatically trash to me. this isn't even the worst shitty translator tier way of doing it either, but it's still cringe.

>>9005751
>hmmm never heard of a translation before

>>9005742
Honestly fuck sequels

>>9005936
>Being this pedantic over a connective

>>9005951
Minor "mistakes" (not necessarily incorrect) like this herald far bigger issues to come. Therefore it is my prerogative to be pedantic.

>>9005936
It was made by hues in 2003 and is as bad as it sounds

>>9005978
>wojak posting

>>9005979
>>9005742
Which version is this? Looks crummy compared to Sega CD.

>>9006024
MSX2 port

>>9005742
>act 3 sucks dick
I see people say this a lot but I don't understand why. The story feels incomplete without it and I don't really get what's so bad about it to begin with. Although my memories of Snatcher are pretty foggy

>>9005742
I'm tired of redditors pretending that this game is good

I was expecting to be blown away by the music from what everybody was saying but so far I'm kind of underwhelmed. Are there better tracks further into the game? I'm playing the Sega CD version but the music honestly sounds like the genesis could produce that by itself.

>>9008103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpOwyvD2ecg
This is the only song I remember from the entire game but it's honestly so good that I don't care

>>9008083
It ties up loose ends and is better than having no ending, but it's decidedly inferior.

-The reveal of A Certain Person's parentage is awful. Why would you kill someone off (and milk it for tragedy, having failed to build any audience investment in the character) and THEN try to make it important in the aftermath? Shockingly bad, unimpactful, and the biggest misstep of the VN, IMO.

-Deducing the location of the Snatcher hideout in a five minute conversation out if nowhere is limp AF. It should feel like a climactic reversal that's satisfying, hard-won, and exciting. Instead it feels like "Oh, yeah, cool. Let's go get 'em. I guess."

-One of the most enjoyable parts of Snatcher was piecing clues together yourself. Part 3 just throws answers at you, so there's no sense of satisfaction/vindication as you steadily unravel things.

-One of Snatcher's biggest strengths is how well it pulls you into Neo Kobe. Part 3 takes place in an underground bunker whose design I barely remember, and which introduces only one new character (who is very lame).

-Characters you are expecting to see go somewhere (e.g., Mika) don't. It's just very dissapointing.

>>9008115
Yeah, that's the standout. "Pleasure of Tension" and "Stairway to Hell" are the only other ones I'd go back to. That said, other tracks work in the VN fine. They're just not worth listening to outside it.

>>9008083
It feels rushed and an afterthought compared to the rest of the game, otherwise I agree with you, it provides a conclusion where there otherwise wouldn't be one. Can't imagine how pissed Japanese players were when the game ended on a cliffhanger in the MSX2 and PC-88 versions with no conclusion to speak of until the PC Engine CD version.

>>9008089
this
games without an official localization that aren't shit can be counted with one hand

>>9008315
It has an official localization, retard

>>9008083
>The story feels incomplete
Nah, it ends this game's story but leaves some plotlines open for a possible sequel (with other Snatchers still alive, Gillian's memory, etc.)

>>9008397
dayum, didn't know kojima was this much of a graphoman

>>9005751
to be fair kojima ripped off ridley scott more than he did dick, and there's a good chance he hasn't read the book or any book for that matter

>>9008314
Most Japanese players back then thought that the ending to the PC-8801/MSX2 version was a cliffhanger for a sequel and I've seen a lot of criticism towards Act 3 from Japanese oldfags (including Hideki Kamiya) who actually played the original versions back in the day. Even Kojima himself acknowledged criticism of Act 3 in a magazine article.
https://shmuplations.com/snatcher/

>>9008419
Kojima is actually quite a bookworm if you actually follow his Twitter account and he has acknowledged William Gibson and other authors in the past. In fact, the subtitle for the PC Engine version of Snatcher (CD-ROMantic) came from Neuromancer.

>>9008442
Also, keep in mind that the canceled sequel to the PC-8801/MSX2 version was supposed to be a much longer and complex story than what Act 3 ended up being, which was just a cliff notes of that canned project.

>>9005936
Do t care, didn’t ask you.

>>9008089
I’m tired of you.

>>9008115
>>9008103
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Ja-GyfO8Whs&listen=1

>>9008419
that's what i'm saying tho, there's no more snatcher games because there was (at the time) only one blade runner film

>>9008548
Snatcher's story is nothing like Blade Runner aside from the whole "detective hunting robots" angle. Most of its similarities are more visual.

>>9008447
I want that Gibson prequel voice drama to be made into a game but a sequel could be nice, too.
To be honest, I haven't played Snatcher in literally two and a half decades, longer than many of you cunts have even been alive, so if I played it now, it may be like the first time all over again.

>>9008442
Interesting to hear that Kamiya was a fan and didn't like act 3. I guess now that I think about it a sequel would've been way better than a third act retroactively added to the game, but I'll take act 3 over nothing at all

>>9008289
I just discovered Act 3 existed in this thread and now I'm disappointed in it. What a roller coaster.

>>9010718
>Even though the PC-8801 version of Snatcher is unfinished, the ending, which stirs up an image that foreshadows a grand-scale drama that lies ahead is amazing. On other hand, I looked down on Act 3, where all you do is push buttons and watch things unfold passively, as a creatively useless addition. Because of that, I recommended everyone to experience the PC-8801 or MSX2 version.

>>9010731
Wait so where the fuck does the non Sega CD version end? I only recently got around to playing it on Sega CD, loved it, I didn't really mind act 3, I just fucking wish there was more to it!

>>9010823
I played the SegaCD version, I don't remember a VN at the end of it.

>spent half a decade developing artificial skin and simping over a frozen woman
>and your father managed to make the skin in a month

>>9010823
>Wait so where the fuck does the non Sega CD version end?
Where Act 2 ends.
The non-CD versions even had a different ending song which goes unused in the later versions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxN66UFat4E

>he's the big boss
>turns out to be the final boss
He did it again