/vr/ - Retro Games

what game is that OP?

I really enjoyed Slayer and Deathkeep on 3DO.
Also Anvil of Dawn is great. Order of the Griffon on TG16/PC-Engine also good.

>>9002339
Wizardry VII
>>9002345
It's Lands of Lore 1.

>>9002339
Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei 1&2
Shining the Holy Ark & Shining in the Darkness
Is Orcs and Elves on the NDS worth playing through?

>>9002339
Phantasy Star 2 ikuto

>>9002339
>game has randomized dungeons
>get stuck playing that one game forever

>>9002339
rec me my first dungeon crawler

>>9002919
Etrain Odyssey 4 is THE baby's first blobber. If you hate jarpigs Legend of Grimrock is a pretty good intro too but alot of people get triggered by square-dancing.

If you want to become an autism lord and start from the beginning Ultima/Wizardry 1 are surprisingly accessible for games from over 40 years ago

>>9002339
Crawl through this dungeon in Princess Tomato and finger the boss, if you dare.

>>9002339
shin megami tensei 1 & 2

>>9002720
>Is Orcs and Elves on the NDS worth playing through?
I enjoyed playing through it a couple of times.
>>9002958
>blobber
Stop using that stupidly inane modern term.

>>9002339
Wizardry Empire(https://www.romhacking.net/translations/2316/))
Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday
Rance IV
>>9002720
It's a fun little real time crawl, worth a playthrough, a shame the Doom and Wolf crawlers were never ported to anything and are stuck in mobile game hell.

>>9002720
>Shining the Holy Ark
Patrician taste, anon.

does Autumnwood count?
Its got more of a smooth movement crawl instead of grid movement

>>9003942
Might & Magic 6-7-8 and Wizardry 8 have smooth movement and nobody is gonna argue against them.

>>9003938
what am i in for

>>9002857
>lost in-between dimensions.

I had a Lands of Lore 2 dream this morning that there was a secret that let you climb onto the tree canopy of the Huline Jungle. It was a big jumping puzzle with narrow branches criss-crossing, and if you fell off you landed back on the lower level and had to get all the way back up. I found a magic item called 'Eagle's Beak' and when I equipped it, hostile flying eagle-monster enemies began appearing from underneath and swooping at me. Intense shit.

>>9004007
Theres some dungeon crawlers that have a strong focus on character building, games that you can pull out spreadsheets and take hours minmaxing your characters to wreck shit, and then theres other dungeon crawlers that have a very linear leveling progression, but are tightly designed and you arent meant to put a ton of mental thought into it.

Shining the Holy Ark is in the 2nd camp, you shouldn't expect the game to be really hardcore in terms of building and difficulty, but the game has a very strong personality, some really cool gimmicks, memorable music, a great aesthetic, just expect about 30-40hours of a fun time and then dropping it for good.

Crawl through the forums

>>9002339
Ambermoon
Ishar 1-3
Bloodwych

>>9004608
>Shining the Holy Ark
That game looks absolutely awful in terms of graphics and style. You say it's ok to play?

>>9004608
What are some good games in the first camp?

Any games like this with hentai?

>>9002339
>Reatreat

>>9002339
Wizardry 4, do it now

>>9005558
Wizardry 6-8

Favorites you shouldn't miss OP:

Stonekeep
Might and Magic 3-8
Daggerfall

>>9005651
Rance

>>9005392
I think it looks good

>>9002339
smt strange journey

I like grailquest but it is not a video game
Bloodsword is supposedly also good

angband

>>9002720
Played thru Orcs and Elves several times, good game. Sequel only came out on phones, nowhere near as good.

>>9002339
Obitus.

Been trying to remember the name of some weird adventure/action/rpg game. It was kind of Daggerfall-ish/Hexeny, not a TES game or doom engine though. Was pretty janky, not a very well-known title AFIAK, but I think it may have had rudimentary multiplayer which made it interesting. I think it had some kind of weird sine wave based spellcasting meter too, though I might be confusing that with yet another game.

Is there any dudgeon crawler in space? or at least with ayy lmao enemies/characters in the game? would love to play something like that.

>>9002720
>>9003938
>Shining the Holy Ark & Shining in the Darkness
Based. Those two are my favorite dungeon crawlers.

>>9002339
Dungeon of Death (1994). I played the shit outta this game on my 386 and then completely forgot its name and couldn't find it again for like twenty years; just randomly stumbled upon the shareware CD it came on yesterday.

>>9007990
>obitus
sucks (at least on snes it does)

>>9005651

>>9007007
This. Rance series is a classic. Also Dungeons & Dolls by the same devs.

There are lots of mediocre dungeon crawlers on PC-98 that use anime titties as a selling point. Of those, Raidy got an English release of its remake.

>>9010042
Closest thing I can think of is Phantasy Star 1. It doesn't quite meet those criteria but you do hop between three planets in a star system and dungeon crawl on them.

>>9011164
Thank you, it will have to scratch the itch for now, maybe it's a call for me to make one, put gray aliens everywhere, pyramids in space, crazy things everywhere and the biggest party of weirdos to safe the milky-way.

>>9010042
Might and Magic

>>9010042
Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday.
Maybe not technically a dungeon crawler because of the perspective, but there are lots of aliens, guns, planets, and spaceship battles. Be warned it's full of jank, but it has its charms.

>>9002339
Wizardry 5.
I'm also playing through a Wizardry: The Five Ordeals player-made campaign; Ancient Tower of Eleia or some shit. Pretty good. I had to autistically climb five floors blind because a plot item in my inventory converted the entire labyrinth into a dark area.

>>9005651
many. on windows xp you could try words worth. the game crashes with the english patch for me though.

>>9005392
it's a fun game and it looks pretty good

>>9010042
Xenomorph.

>>9002345
That Deathkeep game is not bad, wasn't aware of there being AD&D games on 3DO. First level is a bit tough right off the bat with slippery ice floors and some liquid that drains your health quickly on the sides of those ice floors. Once you get the boots it's fine.

>>9010042
Might & Magic IV and V aka Xeen

>>9002339
Evolution on the Dreamcast.

>>9010042
Developed by Rockstar Vienna

hello mty friends i am playing shining the holy ark and loving it - i have a question. I am in the first town and exploring the forst of confusion. I grinded a bit for coins so i could buy all the new armor and weapons for my party at the town. i did not not mind doing this. but as i explore deeper into the forest and it's cave, i have literally fouind every single piece of gear that i have bought from the town. is this a repeating thing? should i just head into the dungeons and they will always have literally the entire new sets ofg gear for team? sorry for retard ebnglish i always play my sega satujrn drunk

>>9011859
>pyramids in space
Just like that, I now really want to play your game.

>>9002339

>>9002339
> I will crawl through every dungeon in existence

Daggerfall

>>9008925
anyone know this

>>9008925
>>9015904
blake stone aliens of gold or blake stone planet strike?

>>9002339
Real Time vs Turn Based dungeon crawlers?

Which is better and why?

Please advise.

>>9008925
ahh I found it.. it was Amulets & Armor
came out after Quake so it got dunked on for its release

>>9002339
My virgin hole

>>9016196
Oh, it uses level titles. More games need this. It may be mostly functionless but it means more than just a number, dunnit.

>>9012917
This threads about dungeon crawlers, not jrpgs

>>9016142
>Real Time vs Turn Based dungeon crawlers?
I choose Turn Based.
>Which is better and why?
If you want my opinion in this then i would say turn based is better simply because it supports the "roleplay element" more than real time combat, and i think it's easier to flush out the combat this way especially if you have 6 or 8 party members in battle at the same time.

>>9016142
I think Ultima Underworld is the perfect dungeon crawler, but if it's party based TB is better.

What is it about first-person grid-based RPGs that are so appealing when non-grid-based environments have the capacity to be so much more varied and interesting?

>>9017875
They're easier to make, easier to map if there's no automapper, and easier to run.

is daggerfall worth playing after the more recent elder scrolls?
is ultima underworld complicated for a casual?
any dungeon crawler where the inventory isn't too tedious?
what's the best party based dungeon crawler?

>>9017938
Ultima Underworld isn't too complicated and the dungeons aren't a clusterfuck like Daggerfall since they're all handmade Just have to get used to the WASDZXC movement and you never want to use the look, speak, interact modes when there's a generic mode that lets you do all of that based on context. If you want a casual dungeon crawler, try Might and Magic 6.

>>9016338
the game seems to run on the doom engine, and that engine have quirks like that, every level must be named.

>>9017938
>is daggerfall worth playing after the more recent elder scrolls?
aside from Morrowind, what's so good about the recent elder scrolls?
Daggerfall have a fantastic character creator but the problem with the game is that it's all about procedural generation, 2000+ random dungeons, you may like it and you may hate it.

>>9017961
I'm trying ultima underworld, seems like a nice game but the view distance ruins my eyes. isn't there a hack for this?

>>9019085
i like both morrowind and skyrim but if daggerfall adds nothing to these experiences i'd rather not play it. i just like these 90s 3d graphics

why does the game force me to load a save after i sleep in ultima underworld?

>>9002339
>I will crawl through every dungeon in existence and you can do nothing to stop me!
I can make a dungeon so big you can't crawl out of it.

>>9020382
Other than the Cosmic Forge utility for Wizardrys 6, 7 and 8, is there a software to make one for fun, playable that is? Is there a humorous challenging /vr/ dungeon to play?

>>9010042
the original system shock

>>9019085
Nah, by 'level titles' I meant that the player in that video wasn't just a 'level 2 paladin' but a 'Squire'. It's an old D&D thing got got phased out but had charm. I am surprised to see a 90's game use the idea.

>>9021151
I heard it has aged very poorly. how poorly is it?

>>9002339
Ride the turtle

>>9021735
it aged like a fine wine, i only ever play with the original controls

>>9002857
>needing more than one game

>>9021758
based

Azovstal dungeons [Spoiler] sorry, play might and magic actually [/Spoiler]

ah, damn

How is Captive?

>>9005651
Bunny black

shining the holy ark + wizardry 8

>>9022558
boring

well don't play the unity version of ultima underworld, my save got corrupted i lost everything fuck these guys

>>9022920
The unity version isn't even close to being a reimplementation, you were playing a neutered version that didn't even have basic AI ownership implemented.

>>9021735
If you're familiar with other FPS RPGs of the era you can handle it fine, but to steal a joke from Mandalore "it's like playing a graphing calculator" sometimes

>>9022986
It's not an RPG.

What is the actual best intro to dungeon crawlers?

>>9023063
Personally I think Might and Magic 6 and Diablo 1 are solid entry points. Ultima Underworld requires a lot more thinking than either of those two games.

>>9007880
>roguelike ascii game

>>9005651
Chaos Angels started the monster-girls in dungeons genre that continued to modern times with things like Moero Chronicle and Dungeon Travelers

>>9002339
what are great modern dungeon crawlers that i should play? games like Aeon of Sands: The Trail but good, or maybe that game is good?

>>9024820
>or maybe that game is good
It's not /vr/ but I loved it, jank and all. Mechanistically simple with lots of squaredance combat but the atmosphere and mystique/adventure-sense are unparalleled for the genre

>>9019235
>i like both morrowind and skyrim but if daggerfall adds nothing to these experiences i'd rather not play it. i just like these 90s 3d graphics
as i said the character creator is great and you might stick around for the character development, and since you love dungeon crawlers you might like the game more so than other people, just use the Unity version and turn off the meme graphics mod.

>>9024820
Elminage Gothic? sorry but i can't help you much in this topic.

>>9022929
i don't really know what you mean but i'm trying to play the gog version now and it looks bad, controls poorly and sounds horrible.

i want to go back to the unity version but has anyone managed to beat it without save corruption? i think it was tied to an inventory glitch when some stones just disappeared.

>>9002339
Grimoire

>>9024820
Operencia
Legend of Grimrock 1&2
Legends of Amberland
The Bard's Tale Trilogy
Might and Magic X

>>9010042

Hey you!
Don't go crawlin in my dungeon!

I won't permit it

>>9010042
Not /vr/ and might not be exactly what you are looking for, but I often play this roguelike named "Sword of the Stars: The Pit".
It takes place in a big 40 floor dungeon in another planet and the vast majority of the enemies are alien lifeforms or mechas. Several of the playable characters are aliens, like this tentacle dolphin.

>>9003810
My parents made me feel like a fag for renting this. Upon watching me play they reacted with "that's all you do?" Fuck you, you fucking philistines.

>>9025213
based.

>>9025374
>My parents made me feel like a fag for renting this. Upon watching me play they reacted with "that's all you do?"
my parents used to do this even when playing normal games, c'mon it couldn't all be that bad right?