/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
See picture for details
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
Beta When It's Done(tm)

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
400 MINUTES OF /vr/
Idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/400minvr

VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ (Latest)

=== NEWS ===
[06-11] The Force Engine 1.0 beta is almost done with hardware rendering
https://twitter.com/DF21net/status/1535642950939574277

[06-11] Pico Doom updated to 1.5
https://youtu.be/WORdFS8nU9k

[06-10] Duke Nukem movie in the works
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/duke-nukem-movie-1235162997

[06-09] SLOOTER is now in early access
https://buxomdev.itch.io/slooter

[06-08] La Tailor Girl updates to 1.83
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1221327#p1221327

[06-07] GZDoom 4.8.0 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75532

[06-06] Turok 2+ mod released, extensive revamp for Turok 2
https://youtu.be/snx0QopGr-8

[06-04] Quakewulf releases a map for Quake 2
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/back4good.zip

[06-03] RAMP 2022 announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129564

[06-03] Action Quake is now free on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1978800/AQtion/

[06-02] JPCP2 has been announced
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm40533066

[05-30] 400 Minutes of /vr/ is on idgames

[05-28] Pandemonia 2.2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60984

[05-26] Halo Doom: Evolved season 2 released officially
https://youtu.be/-sXI0uBU-qQ

[05-26] Ante Mortem episode 1 released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129400

[05-19] Anon shares his MBF21 map
https://mega.nz/file/1pVgibhT#nWJi3R78FvZXgw8JCO_JJNJoKXuTAWOiUeUAQVmPNow

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=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
See picture for details
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
Beta When It's Done(tm)

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
400 MINUTES OF /vr/
Idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/400minvr

VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ (Latest)

=== NEWS ===
[06-11] The Force Engine 1.0 beta is almost done with hardware rendering
https://twitter.com/DF21net/status/1535642950939574277

[06-11] Pico Doom updated to 1.5
https://youtu.be/WORdFS8nU9k

[06-10] Duke Nukem movie in the works
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/duke-nukem-movie-1235162997

[06-09] SLOOTER is now in early access
https://buxomdev.itch.io/slooter

[06-08] La Tailor Girl updates to 1.83
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1221327#p1221327

[06-07] GZDoom 4.8.0 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75532

[06-06] Turok 2+ mod released, extensive revamp for Turok 2
https://youtu.be/snx0QopGr-8

[06-04] Quakewulf releases a map for Quake 2
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/back4good.zip

[06-03] RAMP 2022 announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129564

[06-03] Action Quake is now free on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1978800/AQtion/

[06-02] JPCP2 has been announced
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm40533066

[05-30] 400 Minutes of /vr/ is on idgames

[05-28] Pandemonia 2.2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60984

[05-26] Halo Doom: Evolved season 2 released officially
https://youtu.be/-sXI0uBU-qQ

[05-26] Ante Mortem episode 1 released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129400

[05-19] Anon shares his MBF21 map
https://mega.nz/file/1pVgibhT#nWJi3R78FvZXgw8JCO_JJNJoKXuTAWOiUeUAQVmPNow

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>>9002019
>>9002028
Well, guess I was tempting fate...

Status update:
>19/28 maps fully completed, with another 3 just needing difficulties implemented

Of the remaining six maps:
>One is nearly built (screenshot in the last thread)
>One is being worked on
>Three are in early drafting
>One has no progress yet

It will be out this year, but possibly late this year. /vr/ will get the first release.

>>9002045
Is this an update for Temporal Tantrum?

>>9002112
Yes.

holy shit anons i`m a modder now

>>9002429

>>9000947
>It's been lavishly praised around here a few times and the improvements were seldom specified, so people generated their own expectations.

Yeah, I suppose it's understandable to a degree. It's a lot better than the base game imho still, the added enemy types, better levels and better mix ups (like addition of bike / hoverboat levels) make it much more fun.

>>9000958
>better autoaim
>using autoaim
shiggy diggy

>>9000997
>make the revolver do more damage
It's fine. Revolver is great for sniping, it's better than the DOOM pistol that's for sure and it one shots mosquitos etc.

>>9000970
>RR dynamite
Yeah it kinda sucks but since it's also used for the dynamite crossbow you're probably never ever tossing dynamite after you get the crossbow.
Besides the only real usage for it is to blow up those big alien cunts to prevent them from rising up from the grave (for the most part).

>>9002472
>It's fine.
I disagree. It follows that stupid mindset of "Make your starting weapon so bad it makes the other guns look better in comparison." But takes it to whole new levels of terrible. Duke, Blood, and Shadow Warrior kicked that trend to the curb, and have a better arsenal for it.
All they had to do was make the revolver do more damage, and have you carry less ammo, and it'd be a great starting weapon. For fuck's sake the manual says it fires .454 Casull and yet in some ways it feels WORSE than Doom's pistol to use.

That's just inexcusable.

>>9002481
based. fucking hate it when starting guns are just crutches until you find something better.
tbqh that`s why i don`t play high noon drifter anymore. i love the ability to fan the revolver, but holy shit it takes the entire clip to down a single mook. infinite ammo doesn`t make it worth it in the slightest, especially since there`s the whip.

>>9002481
>pic

Is it bad that 'casual' came to mind on first glance which I assume that bullet is anything but

>>9002481
The revolver does plenty of damage, aim for the head.

>>9002507
It absolutely does not take the whole thing. To kill a pinky if you hit every shot, maybe, but it shouldn't take more than three or four to kill anything weaker than that. Also, fanning is stupidly inaccurate and if you're taking the whole cylinder to kill an imp, you're probably missing most of them.

The Thunderhawk is another weird case in terms of the cartridges it's said to fire vs. the damage it actually does. It's a .500 magnum.

>>9002472
Funny enough, I find RR’s revolver tolerable with autoaim on. It and to different degrees Shadow Warrior are the only build games where I feel the aim assist benefits the shooting.

>>9002574
>Shadow Warrior
Funny how turning off autoaim makes hornets much more dangerous.

>>9002019
>Doom

>>9002507
Wierdly, I thought the HND revolver is actually really useful. It's just powerful enough to carry you through most low-tier enemies, and combined with judicious use of the whip, is a reasonable tactic against mid-tier enemies if you want to save ammo.

Continued working on my Holodeck map.
I am trying to come up with combat scenarios to practice, and apart from revenant punchout and cyberdemon two-shot dance I couldn't think of anything else you can practice "in a vacuum" so to say.
Does anybody have any other ideas?

>>9002661
>Computer.
>Construct an 8-unit wide pillar in the middle of the room.
>Now put an Arch-viles on both ends of the room.
>Disable safety protocols.

>>9002661
Pinky punching, mancubi projectile dodging, maybe some shit like chainsaw etiquette with a bunch of imps.

>>9002661
>>9002681
>>9002691
Archvile flame dodging with small sector cover, Pain Elemental abortion, various large horde strats (Rev homer dodging movements, infighting, etc)

>>9002681
>Computer.
>Place a rocket launcher, a backpack, and 10 boxes of rockets in front of me.
>Place 8 pain elements at the cardinal and ordinal ends of the holodeck.
>Disable safety protocols, and lock the doors.

>>9002715
>Archvile flame dodging with small sector cover
This, you could potentially have different difficulties with thinner width pop up cover sectors to really make people learn how much cover you do or don't need.

>>9002481
>>9002507
I generally don't like 'starting weapons' they are weak and unsatisfying and only used for a few levels before you have enough ammo for the actually fun guns so you never have to use it again
blood did it right with the flame pistol and its technically not even the first weapon you get

I hope it's ok if I retexture and finish an old map to be a 94 Protons submission, the gameplay is close to Plutonia anyway with some TNT influences too.

>>9002846
an old unreleased map*

>>9002681
One asshole is already kicking my ass with that setup. The sliding stop constantly fucks my shit up.

>>9002846
If you make it fit, go ahead.

>>9003017
lol, glad to help ;]

What a jolly fellow

>>9003054

>>9002721
This is already horrible with just 4 PEs, especially without infinite height and LS limit.

>>9003248
>>9002691
Also, I seem to have missed your post.
What exactly is about Pinky punching to be practiced separately?

And how would you go about Mac projectile dodging? Something like gangbang from two sides on a small platform in the middle?

>>9002580
Aim assist or no, there's no escape from their silliness

RE: >>8991090, it's probably fixed. A new version of DOOM 64 CE came out today, and it's bundled with the Windows version of GZDoom 4.8.0 so it presumably works with the Linux version as well.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ce/downloads/doom-64-ce-320-full-version

>>9003251
Yeah, dodging Manc fireballs on a small platform could work. Especially if you only give the player a Shotgun or Chaingun to deal with the Manc(s) so the fight is more protracted.
Mancs are also good at causing infighting, both because of their errant fireballs and because they're fat fuckers who block other monsters' shots, so there's another idea seed.

>>9003248
I actually didn't expect you to put that idea in. It was mostly a shitpost.
Although it would be some excellent rocket launcher discipline training.

Anyone has this wad?
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/117797

>>9003295
Eh, I think it's good to know your way around PEs with the RL.
I like to put these kinds of things into my maps just to fuck with trigger-happy players a bit.

>>9003347
Genuinely based. Redead-ITA's 512 Lines map is short, but there's a Rocket Launcher ambush that caught me relaxin', so I'll vouch that it's good training.
Also God bless you for biting the bullet and doing a Holodeck map. I saw the texture in the UAC Ultra texture pack and thought about it too, altho your use (for a training map) is much more noble.

>>9003363
>I saw the texture in the UAC Ultra texture pack
Actually these holodeck textures are self-made.
I started this thing some years ago when fucking around with ACS and I thought a holodeck map would be cool to practice level alteration and all of that, so I have been coming back to it on and off.

>>9003251
>What exactly is about Pinky punching to be practiced separately?
Learning how to fight 10-15 of them at once with only your fist without getting hit. Dodging their bite between punches.

>>9003376
I would also like see some chainsaw training like >>9002691 said.
One room with a horde of pinkies, another with a handful of revenants, another with lost souls, another with pain elementals, etc.

>>9003370
>ACS
>level alteration and all of that
Oo~ so, could you actually do the difficulty-based Arch-vile pillar size like that other anon suggested? I don't know shit about ACS, but the thought of a single room actually changing based on scripting gives the Holodeck idea even more fidelity (also kudos on making original assets)

>>9003386
Technically? I know Xaser did a map that built itself like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42JurZY_CK4

>>9003404
Oh man, I forgot about this map. I learned about it a while ago before I really knew anything about the Doom editing community.
>Xaser
Yeah okay now that makes a lot more sense.

>>9003267
>yfw you see the fucking bee after you pull the trigger

>>9003386
>I don't know shit about ACS, but the thought of a single room actually changing based on scripting gives the Holodeck idea even more fidelity (also kudos on making original assets)
Yeah, this concept is far from original. I think some test maps exist like that.

>>9003284
Confirmed it works.

The installer is a batch file for Windows, but Wine will run it if you install Wine Mono first.

>>9003425
>this concept is far from original
Well duh it's a Star Trek Holodeck of course.
But that idea probably predates Star Trek anyway. It's how you actually implement the concept that matters.

Is there an archive of Not Blood builds?
New one doesn't work with neural upscaling

>>9003284
>>9003510
>tried it for the first time
>that soulful hud
>that atmospheric as fuck lighting
>improved but still authentic sounds, sprites, animations, gore effects
What the fuck. No, seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?
I tried smooth doom, vsmooth, smoothed and god knows what smooth else, tried vanilla-like weapon mods like dead marine, tried shitty default lights in gzdoom, tried bunch of gore mods like nash, bolognese, boiled, et cetera, et cetera. Every time I uninstalled everything after 10 minutes at most.
And then you just drop this mod here that don't even has a page on doomwiki and it has everything I ever wanted from a-bit-more-than-vanilla mod. What kind of sorcery is that. Were consoles versions of Doom really THAT good?

>playing Auger Zenith
>map 17
Holy shit, now I understand how Mt Pain feels when he describes how a map made him shit and cum. All this attention to detail, open exploration with many secrets and perfectly balanced combat. How the fuck did SuperCupcakeTactics do it? I refuse to believe he could make all of his contributions to Auger Zenith in a month.

is there a way to remove random damage calculation from custom attacks in doom?

>>9003638
Yes.

>>9003386
>>9003370
Do something like the 2048 units map 20 archie fight, with difficulty changing pillar size and frequency
I also had idea where pillars would randomly raise from all over the arena in random sequence so you would have to run from one end to other to shield yourself

>>9003682
thanks

>>9003576
I was gonna say "he's been mapping for 7 years by that point, of course he'd be good." But I went back and played his first map, and it's pretty fucking fun too. It would have slotted right into 400mins with some of the better maps there.

>>9003702
But in all seriousness, anon, ask less dumb questions that can't be answered by a second of googling and give a bit more information of what your problem is.

>>9003724
i`ve been looking for a way that would work for a fastprojectile for about the whole evening now and my head is starting to lose shape from all the banging against the keyboard

>>9003740
I am still not quite sure what you want to do. Can you post your code snippet?

>>9003740
Damage (expression)
For a projectile defines the damage it inflicts upon impact. The formula is random(1,8) * damage, or random(1,4) * damage if the STRIFEDAMAGE flag is set.
This also defines the damage for actors which attack like the Lost Soul. The formula for this is random(1,8) * damage.
damage is also used to define how many bullets are fired by the generic hitscan attack function A_BulletAttack.
Custom damage formulas can be specified by enclosing the value completely within parenthesis. For example: damage (random(4,8) * 5 + 6). This bypasses the normal calculation and does the exact damage resulting from the custom formula. Also, ACS_ExecuteWithResult and user variables can be used as part of the damage expression; this allows for more sophisticated damage calculations to be performed. The damage formula is evaluated at the moment the actor causes damage (e.g. projectile/hitscan impact).
Default is 0.

Using Zdoom wiki.

>>9003807
i have a fastprojectile projectile, that i`ve set to do 40 damage. i know that doom will take this 40 damage and do its random 1-3 multiplication fuckery, and i don`t want that to happen. how do i make it not happen?
>>9003809
i have in fact read this bit and put my 40 in parenthesis, but aforementioned (40) still oneshots pinkies for some reason, and i can`t quite put my finger on why.

>>9003835
>i have in fact read this bit and put my 40 in parenthesis, but aforementioned (40) still oneshots pinkies for some reason, and i can`t quite put my finger on why.
Are you by chance shooting more than one projectile at once? Is it a ripper? How fast is it anyway?

>>9003835
Post the DECORATE code

>Windows only
>Windows only
>Windows only
I will play them on Linux anyway.

>>9003840
>>9003851
here`s the projectile itself. i`ve checked and i`m only throwing only one of them at a time, using a_fireprojectile with slight spawn height adjustment. i am doing it from an overlay though, if that matters.

>>9003876
What do those hitconnect inventories do?

>>9003876
Since you're using ZScript, have you tried DamageFunction (40) instead?

>>9003876
Also, just thinking, what does happen around the a_fireprojectile?

>>9003904
THAT works, thank you!! guess i shoulda combed through the property list better. still no idea why regular damage didn`t though, but fuck it.
>>9003885
jump to punch connect animation. pls ignore the bullshit, i`m still figuring it out.
>>9003908
just raising the spawn height by 20 units.

>>9003926
Glad it works now.
But since you're on ZScript, you can go by easier with variables n shit instead of fucking around with a million custominventories like a caveman.

>>9003937
yeah true, thanks. haven`t really tried dealing with variables yet, i just got this trick from demonsteele lol.

>>9003945
It's how things were done in ye olden days (or if you're some kind of masochist making a Zandro compatible mod).

>>9003948
i guess so. i`ll stick to gzd though, thank you. don`t really see it being coop-compatible anyway, sorry i suppose lol.

System Shock remake by Nightdive revealed

>>9003993
Most likely.

>>9003993
>>9004001
As in it just happened. Demo available now, apparently.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/482400/System_Shock/

>>9003386
Even VooDoo should be able to do this.

>>9004008
Didn't it had a demo already?

>>9003993
I am disappoint. I was waiting Turok 3 or Quake 2.

did you know that doomguy was based on WH40k space marines?

>>9004048
Did you know I fucked your dad in the ass?

>>9004032
VooDoo dolls don't work according to difficulty if I remember correctly, they all spawn on all diffs. Might depend on source port tho, or I could just deadass be wrong.

>>9004076
VooDoo Dolls don't, but stuff like trees, torches, pillars, they all do.

>>9004076
You could still do something like a bunch of gates that symbolize the difficulties.
Like, go left for the noobie encounter, right for UV encounter, independently of the difficulty chosen in the menu.

>>9004076
>>9004081
This is correct, voodoo dolls can be blocked by decorations or redirected with different teleport destinations.

>>9004081
Damn, you can tell I'm still a greenhorn because I forget shit like "trees trigger linedefs". Even shit like barrels under crushers hitting barrels over triggers should work, altho I still don't remember if props and monsters trigger the same linedefs (I know projectiles and propes can trigger certain ones, but not exactly which ones.)

>>9004038
Haven't clocked any links, but yeah, system shock was already being remade... what's everyone talking bout.

>>9004094
Game doesn't really differentiates monsters and decorations, so decorations on scrollers trigger what monsters trigger.

>dusk finally getting decent models
nice surprise

>>9004102
How do you know?

>>9004105
pc gaming show, they announced a hd update that adds remade models for enemies and weapons

>>9004110
Oh right I even forgot that shitfest is on.

>>9004102
Dusk? You mean Suspended In Dusk? Kind of weird for a vanilla mod made in 2005 to receive 3D models, especially long after the author's passing.

>>9004110
Shit they are showing gloomwood I guess I should stop being bitter for a little bit.

>>9004102
Not retro but good

>>9003993
it had a kickstarter 6 years ago with estimated release date in 2017
>>9004102
is it getting the sdk promised in 2018 though?

As a heads up, we're going to be running a little test on SNS tonight. Also, vrsounds works today.

>>9004094
I'm positive trees and other props don't trip linedef actions. What I mean is a column blocking the VooDoo Doll from progressing on the conveyor at all on the difficulties where you don't want the action to work.

> no news of kingpin or sin
> no 3d realms

I guess early access gloomwood in august is nice. I dont know.

>>9004152
>Also, vrsounds works today.

>>9004181
Bummer

It took me getting to map 20 in tnt before I realised that I really really don't like any of the level design. Fuck me the maps drag on for absolutely forever.

>>9004194
They are fucked and honestly fuck them.

>>9004203
None at all? You didn't like Dead Zone or Stronghold?

>>9004203
There are a few standouts and I still enjoyed revisiting it, but I was surprised at now realizing how linear a lot of them were.

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I understand 94 protons doesn't have a set theme for each episode, do whatever?

>>9003937
so
is there a tutorial on how to use custom global boolean variables, that you can check and change at any time? is it even worth it compared to the monke methods?

>>9004215
Dead zone was pretty cool, I liked human bbq too. Its just central processing is tilting me really bad.

>>9004232
Not strictly, but I figured E1 would feature some jungle outdoors, some temples, etc, with E2 adding more techbase stuff, and a bit of hell, and then E3 going particularly hell, I'd want to save the green marble and green stone bricks to E3, not featuring that elsewhere.

It's not that rigid though.

>>9004242
>central processing
Understandable, it and the map after it can be really exhausting and they're back to back

>>9004150
Middle right has Doom 64 vibes.

>>9003937
>>9003945
update: fuck variables

I guess that's what talking to Scott Miller does to you.
https://twitter.com/GetGianni/status/1535517950886744072

>>9004212
Okay, Scott.

>>9004293
>IM the only one whos allowed to be puke spookem!
you hypocritical old fuck, you just voiced an entire postal game! quit harassing people!

>>9004293
why is jon st. john such a petty bitch

>>9004293
>JSJ tells him he doesn't care as long as it isn't political
>guy does several trans rights videos with the duke voice along with fundraiser videos, somehow failing to see how doing so could be concieved as political
>"wHy iS hE bEiNg SuCh aN aSsHoLe GuIsE"

>>9004293
jesus, I am not reading all that shit

>>9004293
>>9004352
>>9004401
>>9004410
Not Retro

>>9004475
Based.

>>9004475
Blessed.

>>9004467
TLDR:
>Gianni and JSJ were cool at first, JSJ told him to not do anything political with Duke
>He respects that wish until he decides that trans shit isn't political so he does it anyway.
>JSJ probably didn't like this, but also knew that causing a stink over it would get him cancelled to hell
>JSJ starts being a bit of a passive aggressive bitch about it ever since, without any direct clarification.

>>9004194
It is because even if I kinda hate shelly. The game is nice and build is pretty and I would like a not gay sequel one day. Not gonna happen at this rate. It was but a quick summer dream.

>>9004212
Yea that's fine. They don't have much else I'm interested in. I'm pleased with what I got, and it's ironic how two of the best "new retro shooters" - this and Overload - got fairly fucked.

>>9004181
so no aftershock?

>>9004553
correct

>>9004181
Everything under the 3DR banner has been in development hell ever since Willits bought them.

>>9004554

>>9004557
>Willits bought them.

What?

>>9004559
>sadcac
>>9004572
yeah he's currently taking a break from raping them while he works on Space Marine 2

>skimming through PC Gaming Show
>get to the Space Marine 2 discussion
>two devs show up, one of them being none other than Tim Willits
>host asks him some shit about how doomguy compares to a space marine
>he responds by saying that doomguy was directly inspired by 40k
Has anyone from id ever said anything of this sort? Timmy Wimmy is the last person of the original team whose word I'd believe.

>>9004582
>RoboCop's smile in the second panel

>>9004585
wh40k invented the concept of space marines so obviously doomguy was inspired by it.
But seriously Tim is full of shit. id guys have said doom is a mix of evil dead and aliens countless times never wh40k

>>9004585
Even if 40k was already kinda well know alongside Dredd and such I call that bullshit marketing talk.
Military john space marine exists way before 40k.


Motherfucker why is he fucking 3drealms? What the fuck is his problem.

>>9004585
Of course not. He's full of shit as usual.

>>9004596
>>9004602
>>9004603
I figured. If he said it because he sincerely believes it and not because he's lying through his teeth for marketing, he probably thinks that GW invented the concept of a spacefaring soldier so anyone else doing it is "inspired" by them.

>>9004614
I love 40k but 40k invented nothing, and its on its way to became starcraft and gay.
It's a mish mash setting like other fantasy settings, it stole copiously from dune, famous other si fi stuff mashed it together and called it a day.

It would be slightly more genuine if he was making a starship troopers game instead and said the same thing.

Hope you lads had fun.

>>9004229
I joined too late. I wish you kept it up for those who wouldn't mind playing more.

>>9004626
I know I sure did. See you guys next week!

>>9004626
GGs

>>9004572
Willits left id for Sabre, then Sabre bought 3D Realms about a year ago.

>>9004626
ffs i'm covered by a talk bubble

>>9004638
Lmao sorry buddy, didn't mean to cuck you like that

>>9004641
it looks like he's got lil chicken legs
haha

>>9004634
Kegan said I had to intentionally crash the server.
So I did.

>>9004637
Right during the pandemic. Jesus save us, this is why we cant have nice things.

Now I know it´s over.

>>9004648
absolute madman

Oh btw Anon Plays Shitwads debuted a year ago today.
Pour one out for our beloved cunt

>>9004585
That Caillou-Dr. Evil-Penguin-looking-ass motherfucker wasn't even there for the first game

>>9004557
As much as I despise Backstab Willits, 3D Realms was in deep trouble long before the acquisition.

>>9004229
>password
why

>>9004672
To prevent baka gaijin from joining.
FNF isn't going to be password protected but I'm considering keeping it for SNS.

>>9004660
F

>>9004675
don't

>>9004684
State your case.

>>9004675
Definitely keep it, as you said it keep it /vr/ and there was no trouble populating the server tonight.

>>9004038
Yeah, nothing new here.

>>9004691
>>9004675
Agreed

>>9004706
Unless the opposite side can come up with a convincing argument, I'm keeping the password system in place. I'll change it up every week and yes, I'll make it a connect password instead of a join password from this point onward.

>>9004212
The devs aren't 3DR.

Last update was in March:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/562860/view/3122689629911497250

>>9004716
actually a Q&A they did in early April

>>9004716
Man I really dislike how IF enemies sound and move, the sprites of them moving are just not very good, except for the flying ones or the mech.

>>9002019
what are some Good Beach Themed wads for Doom that has bright blue skies.

I already played DBP 27 already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAMHNy0SAw

>>9004730
Doom Vacation.

>>9004557

>>9004720
>OVURR HEERRRE
>HOSS TILES

Honestly, I don't mind, it's not as viscerally exciting as Blood's cultists but it isn't as shrill and retarded as Duke's busted-ass audio or as forgettable as Shadow Warrior's.

>>9004730
Ray Mohawk 1+2 I guess.

Also, what's with that request? Are you ordering a wad like you're ordering fast food or something?

>>9004745
*low muffled "fleshbag..." that you can't even hear over the ion bow charging up to one-shot you*

>>9002019
Quake is great. I play the enhanced edition, and although it has bugs as I can't update it (torrent version) i love the quality custom maps available. That's all I wanted to say

https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/blob/master/musics/d_e1m6.mid

How did this shitty song get approved, does freedoom have no quality control?

>>9004585
>Tim Willits telling fucking lies
Wow, stop the goddamn presses. The iD guys were always pretty open about the influences that made Doom, Dungeon's & Dragons, Evil Dead 2, Aliens, etc, etc. Of all the influences that have been talked about by the devs, Warhammer 40.000 has never been one of them, ever.

Now this renowned bullshitter and weasel who wasn't even there for the first game hatches this rotten egg? Pardon me for disregarding it as completely made up.

>>9004770
What in God's name ever game you the impression that FreeDoom had any sort of quality control?

>>9004745
I hate dukes audio
the octobrains make annoying noises, and the sounds in tubes of underwater just get fucked

>>9004780
I like some of the monsters like the hell knight and the caco, and most of the music is much better than what I posted.

>>9004745
Even the death animations of the grunts are kinda lame. They just fall forwards or backwards but not in a fun way like blood or SW enemies and I dont know why.

>>9004776
I wouldn't say 40k was nothing but yeah I agree. Again I would go more for starship troopers. Or other sci fi.

>>9004596
Starship Troopers did space marines way before that, and it's probably not the first either. The first space marine was probably conceived of when people realized that since we're shooting stuff up into space now, probably we would need armed forces to protect our interests from other people shooting stuff into space or/and hypothetical alien lifeforms looking to steal our chicks.
Hell, people were probably thinking about it around the time Jules Verne started writing about space travel.

Map12 of 400 minutes of /vr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UmVSbl-GKo

>>9004798
I like the variety of normal and headshot deaths, and like Blood it's a build game with actual gibs. The animations are otherwise fine and I have no clue where you're coming from, I'm glad you're with me in saying "I don't know why".

>>9004823
True its in the culture continuum, but I dont doubt the claims that they were thinking of Aliens, D&D and Evil dead.

Its pretty clear they were going for the sci fi fantasy in general no big inspirations, its a simple videogame. If nothing else romero was giving it the heavy metal satanic angle.

Doom Eternal is the one one could say its inspired by 40k, except even the warp in 40k is more hellish and satanic than the silly aliens form eternal.

>>9004835
Its just the regular death animations you see more. I like the gibs with the chain gun as well.
I just think regular ones could be better.

>>9004842
>Its just the regular death animations you see more.
I know what you meant, I think they're fine.

>>9004660
guess what, faggot? i'm dragging you back to where we all started

that's right, we're replaying touhou doom, except this time on lunatic, because we fucking hate ourselves
>https://youtu.be/F_tSjczXjlM

>>9004916
goat bleats
Welcome back, cunt.

>>9004916
Ah fuck I wanna watch. Can't get to a computer ATM.
Godspeed anon.

>>9004916
Oh.

Do you play games on the build engine like Duke Nukem and Blood with autoaim?

new to doom modding fag here. I see doom builder has 40 gorillion forks but which would be best for a new guy? Ultimate doom builder?

>>9004495
Eh, seems more like JSJ realized Gianni is making money off the impression and became jealous.
Even though he has a way better career even without Duke.

>>9004946
Usually. I grew up playing with keyboard only so it feels more natural than mouselook and vertical aiming.

>>9004954
Yes, UDB. Most up to date and most features

>>9004946
Duke, Blood, Ion Fury, all no
RR yes, SW usually

>>9004946
Sometimes I turn it on in Shadow Warrior, like when you're fighting those damn dirty hornets. And i left it on in Redneck Rampage because the hitboxes and spread can be kind of retarded without it. But usually it's off. Why have autoaim when you have free mouse aim since DOS?

>>9004954
>doom builder has 40 gorillion forks
That's your first mistake youngblood, might wanna get your eyes checked.

The currently supported DoomBuilder forks are DBX and UDB, you can pick either but my suggestion is UDB.

>>9004946
I use a trackball mouse and greatly reduce vertical sensitivity, so yes.

>>9004946
I disable autoaim for non-hitscan weapons.

>>9004946
I turn it on and off when needed, unless it's something like eduke or raze where it's hitscan only

>>9004995
thats just cheating

>>9004946
Duke and RR on, Blood and SW off

are there brootal dewm equivalents for the games on the build entgine?

>>9005061
There are numerous attempts with Duke, but given that the modding scene for build games is generally ass, you'll probably struggle to find anything satisfying.

I've been updating many of my files since they're outdated for the most part, and I've noticed Smooth Doom seems to have less features now.
What happened here?

I really miss those spinning keys. The monster variants and the Doom64 weapons were neat too.

>>9005061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5_BB_QdY-I

>>9005109
>7 minute video
>trailer

>>9004946
it's always off for me

Has anyone tried Forgive me Father and does it belong here? If so, how is it for Lovecraftian dooman?

>>9005118
not retro. We have enough people discussing non-retro shit here right now

>>9005119
My mistake. Carry along.

>>9004916
a brief summary of today's stream is
>anon is slightly better at doom
>with my wider perspective of and experience with doom, i can still say touhou doom is a bad wad
>a problem with porting touhou's projectiles is your character can only face one direction at a time
>especially if you need to shoot the boss
dunno if i'll go back to regularly streaming, but it's a possibility in the future
we'll see if i go back to regular streaming, it was good to see you all again

>>9005136
You don't have to just play shitwads, you know. We've got some content backed up, after all.

>>9005139
>Ad Mortem
>400 Minutes
>Soon to be 512 lines
gonna be a busy boy

>>9005136
GZDoom was a mistake.

>>9005165
wayment, you can sell fangames on steam?

>>9005245
It depends on the IP.

>>9004596
>wh40k invented the concept of space marines
Holy fuckin no.

>>9004946
I always play with it on because I'm usually finding the game completely broken without it
I cannot even think of a time where it's fine in any of the build engine games
you could probably play through blood with a gamepad using only buttons

>>9004675
>Don't put a password
>Why?
>...
Password stays on, boys.

Every so often it's nice to see the retro shooter community come together to agree that Tim Willits is a fucking retard.
A good mapper, time to time, tho.
Don't like to critique a fuckin retard without saying something nice.

Video games as means to get into bad blood. Overreaction notwithstanding, Irkalla MAP04 was actually pretty mean.

>>9005426
I love Hexen too but this guy is just retarded. I wouldn't mind some maps for Hexen with currently difficulty standards cause regular Hexen is just too easy and there's a lot of potential for fun hard combat with how varied the inventory is.

working on that new chainsaw replacement, this is gonna be fun

I just put GZDoom on my PC and I have Hexen, Doom, Doom 2, and Chex Quest installed. What other IWADS should I get?

>>9005482
Heretic is fun too, and the Final Doom wads if you don't have them yet

>>9005482
TNT, Plutonia, Hexdd, Strife1 (and Voices)

>>9004602
>Motherfucker why is he fucking 3drealms? What the fuck is his problem.
I don't trust Willits just as much as other anons, but do we actually have any proof that he's messing with 3DR?
>Aftershock & WRATH have the same issues because of tech shenanigans.
>Cultic with Core Decay are kind of more active.
>All of these games are developed not by Slipgate folks, except for WRATH I think. They're busy with Graven, RTS (should be shown this year), maybe new Painkiller, 2001 FPS thing and who knows what else.
>Kingpin, yeah. Also them, I believe. And Interplay, who are... Eh-h-h... SiN is mostly Nightdive and Rise of Triad re-release was fully "hijacked" by nu-Apogee.
The only public thing we have is Miller being a passive aggressive bitch, similarly to JSJ. Not to mention that he actually fucked them over. Allegedly.
>>9004961
Does he though? Nowadays, that is. I may be clueless, but I'm pretty sure he's just "Duke voice" and he was "meh" at being in World Tour. And I don't really care about Duke, but that was just sad.
>>9005118
It kind of belongs here, actually-ish. Some games are being discussed here regardless of the engine they've been made on, which is a reason for some anons to bitch about. Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal until someone spergs out completely. Otherwise we should just go all in and not talk about standalone games on GZDoom.

>>9004730
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94682

>>9004596
>Tim is full of shit.
Dude always has been.
>>9005265
Games Workshop have always basically taken shit from other IPs, especially with 40k where it's like Dune plus Starship Troopers plus a bunch of other crap.

Tim is doing the same retroactive bullshit that 40k fans are probably going to do when the most recent retelling of Dune gets to the god-emperor stuff.

>>9004623
It makes their decades old feud with Blizzard all the more funny since they both started copying from each other after a deal for Blizzard to make a Warhammer game fell through.

>>9005607
I fucking hate tim so much. so glad he left id, now I just wish he would leave the industry.

>>9004585
maybe new doom but old doom has so much documentation and shit, so doom should be known to not have inspiration by warhammer in general
"space marines" also probably existed before 40k but this is games workshop we're talking about, who built a franchise out of taking inspiration from various other media yet wants to act like they pioneered sci-fi/fantasy so hard, they even get fan projects and other companies in trouble for stupid copyright bullshit
all in all, tim caught lying again and unlike sandy petersen, he doesn't have the old man memory to justify it
also, even if doom is inspired by warhammer, it's mostly a "diet version" of it like any other moba or wrpg that took the same influence
at least blizzard started with a style that was charming at first

Where was the goldeneye remake?

>>9005245
>>9005165
touhou games can be sold because of zun's policies
though they may or may not be why some people get confused over touhou because they forget these are still fangames and not spin-offs that just happen to be from a different dev
>>9005475
how will it work?
this is a milestone in doom modding, holy fuck

>>9005695
you'll throw out the pearl, it smashes and a small Past Linked Arti hops out and proceeds to run around and stab shit for awhile, causing a ruckus and drawing aggro.

>>9005729
why is "uac 2" lawful evil?

>>9005749
Maybe because boxes are used so often as filler

>>9005505
>Otherwise we should just go all in and not talk about standalone games on GZDoom.
That sounds incredibly bitter.

>>9005753
>Maybe because boxes are used so often as filler
No, they're used as containers.

>>9005729
Goddamn telepathy, yesterday I thought about requesting this image

>>9004709
I think it should stay a join password. There's no reason to make it a connect password.

>>9005790
Making it a join password means people can join in, spectate, constantly ask for the password, and then that means one of two things will happen:

A) they keep asking until someone tells them to fuck off or they get bored and leave

or

B)Someone tells them to check the thread. This one can be a problem because it can potentially invite more people outside of /vr/ to here. Someone had argued that making the server password join only as some weird exclusivity thing but that's just gonna drive people to want to come here more and annoy us. You might as well cut the bullshit and just prevent people from joining if they don't know the password.

and as I said during the session earlier: I feel like it's kinda pulling the same shit as locking mods behind discord servers or some weird paywall, like you're advertising a thing exists but it's only for the super cool kids club.

>>9005801
>same shit as locking mods behind discord servers or some weird paywall, like you're advertising a thing exists but it's only for the super cool kids club.
Damn, didnt know there's stuff like that in the doom community. That is some next level faggotry
>>9005790
On the contrary, like the anon below said, there is no reason for it to be a join password instead of connect - why would you let people connect but not join? To watch us?

>>9005817
Actually, why is password necessary at all? I know for a fact none of you are capable of giving a good enough reason for that. I bet it's going to be something like "muh sekrit club" or somewhere along these lines.

>>9005817
>didnt know there's stuff like that in the doom community. That is some next level faggotry
There's some value to it if it's a test build located on a dedicated testing and feedback server, because that way you may hook people for feedback who would normally just download and leave, since they're already in the server they might as well say something. Doing it permanently is intensely homosexual, though.

>>9005829
That's what I would guess too. But ultimately I'm fine with a password if it means only /vr/ people join the /vr/ server. We didn't have any issues with populating the server earlier.
Now I've only joined for Sunday Night Shitshows so I'm not sure how much of a problem it is where a surplus of non-/vr/ users join.

>>9005109
already knew about this one
tried it out, but not that fun

What has even happened to provoke this autistic password discussion if there haven't been any issues before?

>>9005729
Where do the tek textures end up also?
on good spectrum?

>>9005109
Jesus christ this looks retarded.

>>9005829
If a password keeps shrieking faggots like you out, then I welcome it.

>>9005873
But... He's here in the thread. In fact if anything he might join just to spite YOU now.

>>9005874
He'd have to know and use the password though.

>>9005729
FIREBLU is a good texture and I will die on this hill

>>9005882
*ding* Sewer Count!

>>9005884
nice fucking model! *honk honk*

>>9005884
>>9005892
I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed in your stupid behavior.

>>9005749
probably because they can be a bit fucky to align properly

civvie fans are so annoying baka be original fagtards

>>9005829
>I know for a fact none of you are capable of giving a good enough reason for that
Nice bad faith, faggot. I'm with that other anon; you yourself may not get filtered, but prissy bitches like you getting turned away by the password is a demonstrably good idea. Thanks for proving the point.

>>9002019

>>9005971
atleast 5 duke-doomguy hybrids and ghost of ranger and doomguy tarbaby in top right

>>9005873
>>9005963
In other words, there's absolutely no reason for a password to be there. Thank you for proving that password is not needed.

>>9006028
You're really dense so here's a reason: the server is visible in Doomseeker, which means anyone who installed doomseeker can see it and join, even if he's outside of here. Satisfied faggot?

>>9005834
>Now I've only joined for Sunday Night Shitshows so I'm not sure how much of a problem it is where a surplus of non-/vr/ users join.
That never ever was a problem. Password requirement is completely pointless. There's a point in having a password if you're performing closed alpha/beta testing of a mod/map pack or if it's a dedicated competitive server like all those private CTF servers. Even then, only the former required a connect password while latter used and still uses join passwords. SNS is neither of those. FNF at least can use the dedicated competitive server argument for having a password.

>>9006056
That's not a viable reason. Again, "sekrit club" is not even remotely good argument. You need a much better argument than that.

>>9002019
Beat the Blood first time in my life. Did it on Fresh Supply with the Extra Crispy diffculty. I know this is a so-called "coop mode", but god damn that was pretty hard.
I have no idea how people did it back in 1997 on DOS version even in coop.
Underwater sections are pure cancer with close to zero hit detection and I did my best to avoid them as much as possible, even if that would cost me hp or jumpboots resource. Hitscanner enemies are all over the place, but unlike Doom or Duke Nukem, where you could easily kill them, they are something else - they can see you from behind, don't make any noise while idle, have pinpoint accuracy, hurt like hell and very fucking hard to kill, especially when they go prone. With any other enemy being easy to outmaneuver - these fuckers are basically pace-stoppers.
And this trend is felt all over the game: we run out of enemies? Just make more bullet-spongey version of the previous one! Or the more annoying like hands and spiders. And making levels pitch-black with almost no way to see what is ahead is just fucking mean. Also level design became more and more bland and weaker towards the end just like in original Doom. It felt like game designers run out of steam midway through. Boss fights are insanely gay too. On Extra Crispy they are even double the gay.
Fresh Supply don't fixing many levels bugs was a bummer too. Nightdive did one hell of a job with the Powerslave - but Fresh Supply is just meh. Well, I pirated it so no hard feelings there.
At least weapons are fine and dandy. Sound is nice too. CD-tracks are pretty atmospheric and reminded me of "Fueled by Hate" track from "Manhunt".
Outside of the atmosphere and some minor cool details Blood is kinda regular for it's kind. I understand why people love it so much, but PSX Doom and Doom64 did the same, but were left out of the focus.

>>9006060
>>9006065
I personally don't give a shit whether there's a password or not, one reason I can think of is that I find smaller servers more fun. When there's a lot of people things just turn into a chaotic clusterfuck.

>>9006068
I agree about the spongy miniboss enemies, they're one of the worst things about Blood gameplay. I've never noticed any level being too dark though, but that definitely depends on monitor brightness settings and so on.

>>9006068
t. Filtered Slav

>>9006081
Now this is a point I can agree with. In this case it's understandable why a password would be a good idea.

>>9005729
You know whats chaotic evil? The gstone bricks with seams that dont line up to 8/16 units. So you have to manually enter precise sector heights if you want a window or anything else that matches the brick seams.

>>9006081
>one reason I can think of is that I find smaller servers more fun.
Ok I phrased that in a bad way, I meant the reason why I find smaller servers more fun, which could make using a password sensible, is that it could be a chaotic clusterfuck with many people.

>>9006105
most mappers in general suck ass at texture alignment and just let Doom Builder do it without actually taking the time to move pixels around. I can't stand it when I see a gray texture line not connect with another one.

>>9006094
No it isn't. If the amount of players is an issue, a limit can be set. This has nothing to do with a password.

>>9006109
>being this autistic about texture alignment
Maybe if you cared more about the gameplay and stopped staring at walls you'd get better at the game.

>>9006065
>That's not a viable reason. Again, "sekrit club" is not even remotely good argument
If you put something in quotations and misspell it doesn't refute that argument. Nobody's trying to make a club or a trannycord circlejerk here, it just makes sense that if we host a server for all anons who browse here its stupid that any random faggot that boots up doomseeker and wants to play doom will probably select our server because it has people in it - this only bloats the server like >>9006081 said, and bloats it with people who dont give a fuck where they play (cause they just want to play doom) and at that point it makes no sense to host SNS or FNF - if anyone can join then why dont we just all fuck off to a random existing public server?

>>9006115
Hey at least mappers who do texture alignment meticulously can be happy there's someone who appreciates that

>>9005913
Oh, hi cancermouse.

>>9006117
Because a random existing public server doesn't have neat stuff like vrsounds or even if it does it'll be limited? Besides, outsiders never ever were a problem and I highly doubt they will ever be. You are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

>>9006115
yeah okay let me just start mapping 1-color slaughtermaps with contrasting pallettes, look at how original I am! Cacoward material right here baby!

>>9006138
>a problem that doesn't exist.
Agreed, whether anon hosts a server with a password or not doesn't matter.

If you have an issue with it, you're better off hosting your own server for these threads instead of kvetching and shitting them up.

The thing that's worse than people not properly aligning their textures is not using TRIMS.
I FUCKING LOVE TRIMS!

>>9006138
>Besides, outsiders never ever were a problem and I highly doubt they will ever be. You are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
I guess you're right on that, Im not joining that often and there were maybe one or two occasions where some sperg arrived and had to be kicked, so not much - however, the password seems to be such an effortless way of prevention if a problem ever arises that I wouldn't mind if whoever's in charge of SNS/FNF decides we should have it

>>9006110
Why do you give a shit?

>>9006126
Cancermouse is unironically the only good CV-11 gag that's been beat into the dirt.
For now.

>>9006150
Not familiar with the lingo, what are trims?

>>9006068
>I have no idea how people did it back in 1997 on DOS version even in coop.
They could’ve just as easily regarded it like Doom’s “nightmare” difficulty and played on a setting they found more enjoyable.

>>9006194
Wall trims, special border textures used between different wall segments and doorways. Rule 2 of Romero's design rules.

>>9006150
>puts two different flats right next to each other without trims or height differences in your path

>>9006226

>>9006220
Any angle greater than maybe a 110 deg angle needs a border for sure, imo. Under that and you can get away without it, depending on what the textures are

>>9006150
>tfw can't into trimming
I wish I could convince somebody to just touch-up the detailing in one or two of my maps so I have an example to follow.
Damn, I hate being a pastiche autist.
>>9006220
Oh, I thought you meant "trims" like these.
Regardless, I'm trash at following Romero's rules for visuals anyway. Altho his ideas about gameplay and level layout are stellar; I'm sure I learned a lot about game design from him secondhand (for example, I wouldn't be surprised if Daisuke Amaya shared influences with Romero.)

>>9004585
>Timmy Wimmy is the last person of the original team whose word I'd believe.
He was only the "original team" in so far as he contributed two maps to Episode 4.

He's basically operating off stolen credit by implying he had any input or insight on Doom or Doom 2 beyond that.

>>9006231
If you are looking for feedback then here's what I have for that specific scene. It's mostly just adding some extra flair so these walls don't look extremely bland and have a chance to stand out. What you have on the far right is great, the left side just needs a bit more work.

>>9006220
You're describing support textures, not trims.
Trims are horizontal.

>>9006140
Oh it's the bitter Ribbiks' rape victim again.

>>9006253
fuck I've always called them trims

>>9006246
>dat red pen markup
My sincerest thanks fampai. I appreciate the approval of the detailing on the right—I've been fucking with it for 10 minutes, but hearing that it looks fine puts my mind at ease. I think I can move on to detailing the rest now.
I actually had another water window up high in the big "More detail here?" wall, but it felt super redundant with the other ones so close by, so I ripped it out. Maybe I'll add it back, or put some more piping in it instead of water.
Also, if you (or anyone else) feels like further critiquing, I'm having a problem visually with this "walkable vs non-walkable" height difference in my wall texture choice. I've thought about putting a rock pillar at the corner where the textures meet (like the one in the middle of the small waterfall in the background), but I worry it'll look awkward with how tall some of them would have to be.

>>9006270
I'm not really sure what you mean, but one thing that stands out to me is the texture used for the little "step-ups" in the grassy terrain. I think they should be the same dark brown rock texture you're using for the walls instead. Would add some more contrast to them and help show that the terrain has different heights.

>>9006295
>I think they should be the same dark brown rock texture you're using for the walls instead. Would add some more contrast to them and help show that the terrain has different heights.
Thanks again for the critique! That was actually how I was originally doing things, I tried differentiating the "step-ups" with a grassy texture to show what you could vs couldn't climb (ie. what was and wasn't a "hill"), but yeah it wasn't working.
>tfw anon literally catches me fakin' and tells me to just b myself

>>9005758
This entire thing is bitter, so that checks out.

>>9006270
>>9006295
>one thing that stands out to me is the texture used for the little "step-ups" in the grassy terrain

Try this

>>9006310
just doom yourself my man

playing through base doom II for the first time on UV, i don't like it as much as ultimate doom. Maybe I just suck at it.

>>9006313
The post you’re quoting or the one he’s quoting?

>>9006319
Bestiary is great, ssg is a good addition, but the levels aren’t as good and not nearly as colorful as Doom 1’s were.
That said, I’d rather replay a chunk of 2 rather than revisiting Thy Flesh Consumed.

>Day one billion of trying to make intermission screen that doesn't suck lmao.
I wish I learned how to draw.

>>9006326
Huh?

>>9006403

>>9006395
That'd be pretty neat for a mapset that had branching level paths.

>>9006414
It probably would be.

>>9006395
lmao at first I thought this was supposed to be a 512 lines intermission

>>9006426
Lucky you it wasn't.

>>9006414
Hell, I figured it was. There's at least two anons that've mentioned working on mapsets with that gimmick.

>>9006409
What does this gun shoot?

>>9006498
HUHs

Name a better wad than Plutonia at the time.
You can't.

>>9006565
You're right, there are some 90s wads that also have great maps, but Plutonia's biggest strength is that it has no bad maps, while most of 90's megawads are often very mixed. Could be the effect of the wad being done by only two guys who were already established as great mappers, so there was no chance of some random guy making another Habitat.

>>9006565
Memento Mori 2 is quite great. Nothing better or as influential as Plutonia at 1996 though.

>>9006585
Guy who made Habitat also made map01 of Icarus, but map01 of Icarus is actually great.

Tried the Selaco demo long enough to not be impressed, the reloads feel like they're missing frames and the AI sure isn't any kind of Fear "smart" AI like they've been hyping it up to be.

>>9006619
Its packed with detail and looks a lot like SS2 which I love. Feels fine to shot.

I just find what they are doing with logs and main character really trash.

But I will wait and see. The devs got really fucking pissed when I said to them it was another boring brunette\bootleg shelly. Very pissed.

>>9006627
I legitimately can't remember when was the last time I enjoyed reading notes in any game.

>>9006627
The detail's not bad, even if the kid's drawings at the start are full of GREETINGS FELLOW RETRO GAME APPRECIATOR shit, as well as references to crap like Hedon and Viscerafest.

Kind of gives me the impression that's what they care about most though, the appearances of stuff.

>>9006634
Good point.

There are some recent games that have good writing. But its very few and far between.

I do wonder if there either a shortage of writers and artists in the west or if its just that the worlds are not connecting enough.

>>9006635
I shows effort, its irrelevant if I personally like it. One has to be honest. I fucking hate with all my guts the futa hedon female fan art green orc faggotry that goes on there but I cant deny its a decent game. Just by the first few levels alone.

Although the appeal to recent boomer shit and youtubers does raise some concerns. But then again its their choice. The game itself is another matter.

>>9006640
>but I cant deny its a decent game. Just by the first few levels alone.
Hedon's got some really neat environmental design, it's just not really the best encounter design, or enemy design.

>>9006635
>as well as references to crap like Hedon and Viscerafest.
i always thought a problem with indie devs is when they get too close like that
i get you don't want to have mean competition or something, but it seems a bit forced and unneeded
if some other devs literally helped you get where you are, i can see something
otherwise, it feels too polite for its own good
the more this friendship club stuff is seen, the more it gives aspiring/potential devs fear that their project may never succeed because it's not part of some clique
>>9006640
and with youtubers, it's probably worse because being a youtuber or "personality" is not the same field as actually making the product
at the same time, it says something when they go for "boomers" like gmanlives and civvie, as opposed to the newly introduced personalities like midnight or mayo lol

>>9006635
Those drawings are made by backers, not by the devs.

>>9006664
I like the music as well, shame about everything else.

>>9006668
>paying for the right to make art assets
Jesus.

>>9006640
>I do wonder if there either a shortage of writers and artists in the west or if its just that the worlds are not connecting enough.
It's a shortage of ones who aren't either shit or trying to bootleg something more popular.

I was playing some Portal knockoff puzzle game the other day and shit rapidly descended to direct fucking Cthulhu references all over the walls and shit.

>>9006686
Indeed maybe its not artists and writers supporting the coders.

I think its a cultural problem, games need strong directors. Like Japs seem to do.

>>9006634
They used to be well written and interesting. Great world building shit like in Thief. Most recent games logs all feel like they're written by the same person, and that person is bland. DE:HR had some good ones, but still suffered from much of the same problems.
I liked Bioshocks as well, but you could just listen to those.

>>9006667
>the more this friendship club stuff is seen, the more it gives aspiring/potential devs fear that their project may never succeed because it's not part of some clique
That's an interesting thought. The whole "that's one doomed space marine" and jabs that other games did back in the 90s was friendly banter, but it was still competitive banter.
On the surface it seems like that antagonism might scare some less confident devs away. But I bet the opposite is true, like you said. If you feel alienated from the clique you probably don't feel like it's worth trying tonesge your way in. Even if you're confident in your abilities you feel it's a rigged game.
::thinkingemoji::

I kinda wish 4chan kept the dipshit emojis they had on April fool's

>>9006713
>tonesge
to wedge

>>9006634
Last for me was Gunpoint, which gets away with it because Tom Francis is good at writing stuff like that.

>>9006698
It seems like an afterthought these days, while also being treated like an obligatory feature.

SS1 treated it well because it was the only way they could pull off that sort of shit back then.

>>9006619
Finding flanks was fun, the typical "dodge/dash" movement mechanics complimented this better than I expected. Ran worse than Supplice but better than Age of Hell.
Okay/10, not hyped but might enjoy it if level and fights vary throughout, it will be in huge trouble if they don't.

>>9006698
>>9006634
Not retro obviously, but new Prey is probably the closest things nowadays to being as good as System Shock 2, would honestly recommend.

>>9005494
>>9005495
Ty

>>9006686
>I was playing some Portal knockoff puzzle game the other day and shit rapidly descended to direct fucking Cthulhu references all over the walls and shit.
Magrunner's good though.

>>9006619
i liked it alot (though i may need to play it again to get a better picture),though i also love FEAR and like the new boomershooters (not much that's nearly as good as something like AD or skillsaw,but i like them),so milage may vary.

>>9000695
I fixed the incompatibility problem by dumping the contents of Quoth PAKs into the Warpspasm mod folder, seems to work fine mostly - aside form replacing the original (Neharha) sword with the Quoth hammer, but at least the enemies have working models and sounds now
>BTW why does it seem that Quoth has duplicate sounds/graphics with the same name but different file sizes?

>>9006845
Says an awful lot that Portal knockoff and Cthulhu shit is all you need to know what it is though.

>>9006930
...or you could check the readme instead? you're supposed to put quoth and warp side by side and launch the game with "-quoth -game warp".
even if that's somehow not an option, you should rename the paks so that the ones from quoth come first and the ones from warpspasm second (because it adds some skins and you might get index out of range errors otherwise).
>Quoth has duplicate sounds/graphics
pak0 is the initial release, pak1 and pak2 are updates

>>9006931
Isn't that how most games are?
Doom is just "demons on mars", Quake is just "Doom with Cthulu shit", etc.

I thought that I would let you all know that for the past week, there's been an attempted DDOS attack on the server. It's already being mitigated so you guys don't have to worry, but it seems we've pissed somebody off.

>I'm not in danger, duke, I AM the danger! A guy opens the door and gets mauled by monsters, you think "That's one doomed space marine". I'm the one who dooms.

not /vr/ but I guess it's based on FEAR, but FWIW the second Trapang2 demo is out and it seems much improved. Gets a lot of basics down well better than Selaco
Camera sway during reloads and lads dropping armour plate during their ragdoll are kind of lame, but eh.

A lot less I-just-downloaded-UE than the first demo

>>9005136
The first episode is pretty shit because the levels have been mostly unchanged from a previous touhou wad by a different author who is bad at level design. The episodes after that are wholly original compared to the old touhou wad so they might be a bit better. You may need to bind the secondary mouse key and item keys to something comfortable because the new weapons and spell cards are what you will have for those episodes.

>>9006994
MM8BDM spergs jelly of their playerbase being stolen

>>9006994
The fuck? is this because of the pw?

Hunted it's an easy map.
Get over it.

>>9006994
>>9007112
They hate us cause they ain't us
Im guessing its probably some random troll thou, maybe even from here. SNS/FNF lives on!

>>9007112
I honestly don't get the deal with MM8BDM but I'm getting sick of those LMS servers being everywhere.

>>9007112
>>9007148
IDK if they're better or worse than that one server of furfags that got angry as fuck if you joined their GMOTA server.

>>9006994
Password guy mad that we keepin' the password.

>>9007119
>>9007160
The password was put in place just yesterday, so no. This has been going on for a week already. I'll say again it's not a big deal and I have it under control, but it is hilarious to me that somebody got offended enough to try and take down a fucking Doom server.

>>9007102
He's already played the WAD in its entirety except for the TLB. He's just doing it on Lunatic this time.

What's the quickest way to resize multiple images? I've been using GIMP and the workflow is just slow as fuck. I know I could dump them into a folder and create a python script to loop through them and run ffmpeg on them, but I have to open up my VM and move the files around. Makes sense when I have 40 images, but when I have 10 a lot of times I don't want to bother.

>>9007227
if I have a shitload of images I want to edit in sequence, I use Metamorphose to rename all of the images to something like "gun 01" and it goes in order. After the sprites are renamed if I just drop gun 01 into Aseprite, it asks me if I want to add everything else in the sequence to the project. Libresprite, which is a free offshot of Aseprite, should have the same feature.

Hell, if you don't want to bother with Metamorphose, you could dump all of the images into SLADE and mass rename them there, then extract them out again and go from there.

>>9007227
Setting up an action in Photoshop. It's easy to just record it, do it, and play it back.

Map13 of 400 minutes of /vr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfxKM4Pw-pc

>>9007227
Using Photoshop, you could load everything into a stack. Assuming they're all the same resolution and you want the same output, you can do that.

>>9007227
viewers like acdsee/faststone/irfan usually have a batch convert mode that allows resizing. gimp actually has several (bimp, script-fu, python), but I never bothered learning them. if it's a common task for you, just make a batch/python/shell script and reuse it when needed.

with imagemagick you can do something like:
>magick mogrify -alpha on -filter RobidouxSharp -distort resize 50%% "*.png"
to resize everything in place

>>9007263
This map was even more ammo-starving in the first couple versions (when it didn't have any secrets, or, like, just the Soulsphere behind the switch.) Still, I like it, even the "one-at-a-time" Arch-viles since you can choose how many to fight at once if you want a spicy marinara (and because it lulls you into a false sense of security before the actual double Arch-vile at the end.)

>>9007278
(double %% is win batch escaping)

>>9007263
Tarnsman had the same complaint you did about the Archviles. Double-Archvile fights are way more engaging. Which is why I'm loading up my 94p map with a bunch of them.

GZDOOM is not multithreaded right?

>>9007301
Nope.

>>9007295
Same. Just added in a double-archvile fight near the end of my map.
Gonna have an entire optional blu key area that has a secret for the death exit too.

>>9007301
Only on few features such as audio and some rendering. Everything else is single thread.

>>9007227
>I've been using GIMP and the workflow is just slow as fuck.
You have my sympathy, the last time I was forced to use that intentionally nonstandard pile of arse I had to set up afk scripts just to automate some of that shit.

>>9007245
>>9007264
is Photoshop easy to pirate? I flat out refuse to give Adobe one red cent of my money for their subscription garbage.

>>9007301
The way I've heard it, it's not even possible to multithread Doom's game logic. Either you completely break determinism (because the game won't yield the same results on different thread counts), or you keep all threads synced to one and end up with no actual benefit and the same single-thread bottleneck.

>>9007343
Very, just need to turn off your internet during installation and block the program from inbound/outbound connections.

>>9007227
https://github.com/over-engineer/Batch-Image-Resize

>>9007343
I'm using CS3 that some kid passed me on a flash drive way back in high school.

>>9007343
Some of the older ones are easier to pirate than the modern rent service bollocks stuff.

There was even a semi-hoax a long time ago about Photoshop CS2 being free because it was easy to pirate straight off Adobe's own servers at the time.

>>9007345
>because the game won't yield the same results on different thread counts
That sounds like something that could be band-aid fixed with a launch parameter to limit the thread count for multiplayer games / demo playback. I think it would be worth trying at least.

>>9007035
I can't comprehend why they would include bullet/pellet trails, excessive amount of strawberry jelly and gmod tier physics. It's not really appealing to me. The only thing so far they have over FEAR are the modern graphics.

>>9005894
oh
oh no

>>9006498
Huge Ugly Heads

>>9004041
Well the good news is that the team that's spinning it's wheels on the System Shock remake for years is separate from the team that does the ports and remasters. At least I think they are.

>>9006627
>The devs got really fucking pissed when I said to them it was another boring brunette\bootleg shelly. Very pissed.
I thought this was Shelly fanart when I first saw it.

>>9007467
even the armour looks the fucking same

>>9007345
GZDoom already breaks demos with every update, so I don't think that's a relevant consideration.

>>9007483
Nobody seriously doing demos uses GZDoom anyway.

>>9004916
Anon! You're alive! Good to have you back.

>>9004946
On because the aiming in Build games was designed with it in mind.

>>9007227
What map is that?

>>9007313
Fuck, that's pretty. I know the wait was long but these assets are nice to have around - will make 94p a little bit more duke3d like without straying from Plutonia territory too much

What's the better doom multiplayer source port for custom yet still somewhat vanilla deathmatches? QZandronum has features that allow for less lag to happen on maps and mods as well as built in support for quake movement for those into that, but Odamex has MBF21 support so it could support mods that aren't decorate yet still offer a different deathmatch experience.

>>9006931
I don't know that having an easily-describable identity is a bad thing.