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>>8994891
It's Soul Reaver for babies

Japanese-style hard work, determination and polish.
Also, Nintendo is spiritually protected and use some shinto magic in their games.

>>8994927
Soul Reaver? you mean the game eith the most generic, mundane enemies of all time, where you explore bothing but mud brown identical temple areas? yeah, i dont think so. Soul Reaver is for capeshit loving fags.

>>8994927
oot is definition of soul. Soul reaver gay fag soules. only people play soul reave have chain walets an listen to slipknot while hufing petrol

>>8994927
Yeah boss babies

>>8994935
lmao top kek, based ESL anon

>>8994934
>>8994935
>replying to falseflagging console warrior

>>8994930
>Also, Nintendo is spiritually protected and use some shinto magic in their games
This must be the magic I felt when playing it in 1999 when I was 12.

TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM
Ocarina of Time revolutionized the industry and was very innovative

-deku stick and arrows can be lit on fire to transfer it to burnable obstacles
-playable instrument allowed for a multitude of different castable spells.
-ztargeting that allows you to lock onto enemies and strafe them, recenter the camera, and peer around corners all without an additional analog stick.
-Navi is a interactive guidance system as a character.
-a rideable mount to get around the huge hubworld, teleportation between important locations, and shortcuts at various junctures.
-you could see locations far off in the distance like death mountain from hyrule field or kakariko village from death mountain and go there.
-face buttons you could reassign items to.
-the menu system is an intuitive cube you rotate to the information and your equipment is visibly attached and detached from your portrait.
-choreographed combat where when you see an enemy guarding it's blocking, and when it lowers its guard it's vulnerable.
-you automatically jump when walking off of ledges with momentum, drop and jump to grabs, all without the need for another button.
-the context sensitive action button literally everything uses, in OoT it told you simple words what would happen should you press it.
-attention to detail such as shadows that rotated around the character in relation to light sources, water that reflected objects, and rooms being blanketed in darkness when enemies sap light from the room to hurl as weapons.

it's literally and figuratively a conduit, a link to the past, through time, bridging our present time to when it revolutionized EVERYTHING, you can separate this hobby of playing video games into two time periods; BEFORE OCARINA OF TIME & AFTER OCARINA OF TIME, with this fucking masterpiece masterclass of innovative design paving the way forward

Pay your respects to a very impressive and technologically advanced game that set impossible standards

>>8994935
Extremely based

>>8995079
holy based
inb4 autistic console warry retards replying to this point-by-point only to fall flat on their retarded faces.

>>8995079
I'm not even a big Nintendo fan, but I love OoT and recognize its greatness. Don't know why retards on here cause such a ruckuss over this stuff.

>>8994935
>Soul reaver gay fag soules. only people play soul reave have chain walets an listen to slipknot while hufing petrol

>>8994934
>>8994935
>>8995084
>>8995130
seethe samefag

>>8994927
Soul Reaver was never good

>>8994891
Try again, in English this time.

>>8994891
You had to be there, so this filters 1/2 the board by default

>>8995079
I still think OoT had some of the best animations of the time. They still hold up, and are charming as fuck.

>>8995190
Since I like both OoT and SR (Yes, people are allowed to like more than one franchise), you can fuck right off with your bullshit.

>>8995134
just calling a based a based

>>8994891
American Nintendies be like:
>haha look at those europoors playing games at 50hz what a bunch of faggots
Whilst at the same time...
>OMG IS THAT SUM ZELDUH RUNNING AT 20FPS? GAME OF THE YEAR ALL YEARS!!

>>8995235
>You had to be there
pro tip, champ: if the game was good then, it's good now. s0i reaver might have been good when you were a retarded child but certainly not as a retarded adult.

>>8995253
are you from pooland or something? i don't get this america = nintendo meme

>>8995253
There's a pretty big difference between a normal speed 20fps and a slowed down 50fps.

>>8995284
In the case of the N64, North America was overwhelmingly where it was most popular and best selling.

>>8994891
ocarina of time has a fantastic combat system that's completely wasted on its piss easy gameplay. i don't know how people can call this a perfect 10 when there's literally no challenge at any stage of the game ever.

>>8995334
I never considered the Zelda franchise particularly challenging in the first place.

>>8995346
OG Zelda's combat is not easy.

>>8995349
I guess, but having played A Link to the Past and Link’s Awakening prior to OoT, it’s not like I was disappointed by the challenge level.

dead mans volley are the worst kinds of fights

>>8995334
because it would literally fall apart if you added anything else to it.

>>8995079
Before and after GTA III is more telling.

>>8994935
>t. Fred Durst.

>>8995079
>it’s fucking nothing.
Most obnoxious fan base ever.

OoT art design is some of the best in vidya that's for sure.

>>8994935
>only people play soul reave have chain walets an listen to slipknot while hufing petrol

>>8994927
Not even close

>>8995079
The targeting system was one of the biggest achievements IMO.
Games like dark souls are basically 1:1 with OOTs targeting system.
Other games did similar targeting at the time but not the sort of "character pivoting" approach, most just affected the camera exclusively.

>>8995334
The combat in all zeldas is mostly just a vehicle to advance to the next area. The games are much more adventure than action focused.
Not a single game in the franchise has deep combat, no not even zelda 2.

>>8995079

everything stated here is fact. People who hate on this game only do so because their favorite youtuber told them to.

Nothing can really overstate how well this game did everything. there is no artificial difficulty or where the fuck do i go moments. just a smooth sail to the finish.

the only reason people hate the water temple is because they grab the long shot then immediately turn around and leave. they never check for the temple of time block behind the chest. if it weren't for that no one would complain about that fucking level. everything else about it is easy and straight forward just like the rest of the game. swear i am sick of water temple bashing it is the most brain dead drone talking point

>>8997816
>there is no artificial difficulty or where the fuck do i go moments
that is something i've admired about Nintendo design is how well choreographed stuff is and you just have intuition on what comes next from start to finish, if someone gets stumped in OoT i cannot relate to that person

>>8997816
>just a smooth sail to the finish.
Sometimes not a good thing though, especially if it feels like the game plays itself.

>>8998107
Yeah maybe the game plays itself if you're watching a let's play on the internet. if you were actually playing it yourself you could neglect to use a shield the whole way thru (after the mirror shield is required,switch to hylian shield then get hit by a like like) and you can refuse to pick up heart containers after bosses. in a shittier game the health upgrades would be required, but OOT is so awesome it allows u to pick your own difficulty level

>>8998107
typical soulslike players, think unless you hook your nutsack up to a car battery while playing then you're not playing a game

Why do zoomers always try to disprove how good something was. You see it everywhere now.

>>8997816
The real issue with the water temple as proved by the 3ds version is that fumbling in the menu the whole time was clunky and annoying.
Iron boots being an equitable item fixes it instantly. Theres also brainlets who get filtered by central mechanic dungeons but I dont consider them real people.

>>8998327
Fox and the grapes situation.

>>8998342

no it's not that is more meme shit repeated by people over and over. OOT is not some budget fuckin PS1 game that has a 30 second load every time you open the menu. just calm down and sip a drink in between menus and it will not take long. i am being serious when i say people get stuck looking for a key and they quadruple check all the rooms and blame the temple for having to cycle thru the water.levels just to do so. if you have 100 people beat dark link and get the long shot i bet less than 10 of them would investigate the room after they get the long shot. Most folks just open the treasure and leave because they want to test it out in every other room. Meanwhile they are down a key and they are gonna check every other room believing their new item will get the key they need; not realizing the long shot room is the cause of all the grief

>>8998363
Thats cool if you believe that but discussion boards dont agree with you. The overwhelming opinion after the 3ds version came out was that it was fine now.

>>8998327
imagine missing out on something so monumental by just a few years, it can drive a lad mad lad mad

>>8998342
that wasn't really the issue, the N64 hardware hitched when opening and closing the menu which added more time to switching equipment than supposed to. you can really tell the difference with the PC port, where the menu instantly opens and closes without a hitch

>>8995349
It was simple, but had some difficult moments.
>>8995334
>ocarina of time has a fantastic combat system
Why are OoT fags so delusional?

Would you play a lewd romhack about a journey to get a gerudo wife?

>>8998409
i'm the furthest thing from an oot fag, but i'm not blind either. the potential to be something amazing is there it's just never used at all.

>>8998313
I've never played a souls game before

>>8994891
Ocaeina of Timr is indeed amazing.

>>8998471
No

>>8998396
The PC port is also just going to have the option to put anything on the item menu so itll be solved on both fronts.

water temple is the best dungeon you actually have to remember stuff. the rest are just a linear set of challenges

As a zoomer who loves Sekiro, I thank Nintendo for developing z-targetting.

20 FPS
No story
In 1998

Also in 98 games which are better and had a greater impact

Thief
Mgs
Grim fandago
Half life
Star craft
Fallout 2

>>8998327
They live in hell mode, which started in 2000
People like me enjoyed like 10 years of paradise 1990 to 2000

>>9000619
>20 FPS
>No story
And despite that, it's still better than every game you listed.

>>9000619
none of those games commanded the same prestige as Zelda did that year, people trying to undersell ZELDA of all things aren't considering how big consoles were throughout all those years versus personal computing

>>9000619

>>9000619
who the fuck plays video games for the story go read a book faggot

>>9000673
Redditors do

Suavemente

>>9000673
Intelligent people who want more from a game than *pew pew pew* and "TOUCHDOWN/GOAL!!!".

>>9000607
Based

>>9000673
based

>>8994891
how you has so bad grammar?

>>9000643
Consoles are still far more popular than PC gaming in all the countries that actually matter.

>>9000619
MGS is a movie game

>>8994891
Op pic rel is one of the best boss fights in the history of video games