/vr/ - Retro Games

Just get one of those chinese android devices instead. The PSP can't emulate SNES worth shit, nor N64 or anything later than that.
It's fine if you are on a tight budget and can get one out of a pawn shop for 20 bucks, but only because you don't have a choice.

get a 16-32gb memory stick
>>899419
i only had trouble with n64 not snes or nes
also, if you hook it up to a tv some games wont work because of the resolution settings(certain emulators)
isos and ps1 images work fine on a connected display though

>>899419
it emulates snes perfectly fine

>>899425
all of the emulators up to snes work on a connected display

>>899430
No... no it does not. Not in the slightest. It can barely do a dkc game without slowing down to unacceptable speeds. It emulates GBA better than it does snes.

You'd be better off getting a dedicated handheld with better specs. PSP came out in 04 and even though you can overclock it a little, and even though the slims have a tad extra ram, they're REALLY starting to show their age.

>>899430
No it doesn't. That's the biggest complaint with PSP, it emulates SNES like shit.

Get a PSP3000
If not possible, get a PSP1000
Not possible, get a PSPGO

Get a pro duo of at least 8gb
No need for screen protectors, just be careful.

What kind of game do you expect to play, OP?

>>899459
It emulates SNES pretty well.
Unless the game has one of those weird 3D technologies, then you'll have big big slowdowns.

>>899461
Tell that to every SNES game on my PSP running like shit, even on fast settings, and it being the most common complaint.

>>899462
>every snes game running like shit
Sorry bro, I have a PSP1000 that has even less ram than the others, and all games play fine, except for the ones I mentioned, with the 3D technology.
Your PSP is probably a brick painted black, which you believe could run games at some point.

>>899462
did you by chance change the cpu clock speed? mine runs them just fine on 333 mhz

>>899463
Not him but which snes emulator are you using?

>>899480
snes9x, the latest one

>>899463
tell me what magic emulator you're using, because the most common complaint is that a system as old as the snes runs like ass

>>899482
alright, I'm going to go find the latest snes9x and try a couple of games

Those of you saying that SNES games run like shit, do you have the frameskip set to zero? Try setting it to Auto, you'll have a much better experience.

Anyway, my two biggest complaints about the PSP are:

1. Dust gets underneath the screen
2. The joystick always ends up breaking--not just the knob, the actual stick ceases to function.

I'm on my second PSP now, and the joystick just broke a few days ago. There's a program called Joysens that you can use to deactivate the joystick, but I have never been able to get the stick working properly once it gets like this.

But yeah, the emulation is great. And it even runs PS1 games. With the right emulator and settings, even SNES games run fine, even at 222 mhz.

>>899484
What is the problem with the emulator? Graphics glitched, less than 30fps, what?

>>899494
Well, I got the psp on launch, so mine has around 8 years. Joystick works perfectly so far. And I played the shit out of all monster hunter games.

As for the dust, yeah. It's annoying as fuck.

>>899494
Didn't have any of those problems, and I have the 1004. But if there is a lot of dust, just remove a few screws and clean the screen.

>>899493
30fps by default is unacceptable, it's half the fucking frequency the snes runs by default. I'm beginning to think people who say snes emulation is great by any stretch on psp are people who haven't experienced it otherwise

>>899494
frameskip anything is unacceptable in 2013

>>899501
But is that the main issue with the emulation?
Most games run at 60fps for me, some of them run at 40fps at times, like world map on terranigma.

>>899460
Don't ever ever ever get a MS Pro Duo.
Get a microSD to Pro Duo adapter, they're around $5 on eBay and DX.com, and then you can buy one or two cheap 16 GB Class 2 or 4 microSD for the price of a 8 gig memory stick.

Make sure to get the latest NES emulator without rewind, because you'll want to play games full-speed clocked normally.

Avoid the 1000 model. I have one and the screen has terrible ghosting issues.

>>899506
sound emulation is poor at best, overall it just doesn't operate as smoothly as say, a modern cell phone. And forget any kind of vsynch on a psp, dear lord

>>899530
only a moron would get a 1000 when brand new better models can be had for chump change. The only reason I ever had one is that it was the only one available at launch

>>899548
Fuck you.

Okay, per a couple of anon's request in this thread, I have tried the newest snes 9x I could find, settings:

Game: DKC2
Settings:
Engine- fast (reccomended by emu for speed)
Video mode: Zoom fit ( I guess this is preference)
Smoothing- yes (doesn't tax the cpu)
speed limit switch- NO, it doesn't run fast enough as it is!
Frameskip is auto from a suggestion from someone in the thread, though it SHOULD BE 0
Vsynch- lolno
Sound is on, there is no excuse for an emulator in this day and age not to run fucking snes with at least low quality sound
Cpu speed is 333Mhz

findings:

The music is already laggy and I'm just on the title screen.. and it has this weird click every now and then
File select screen is worse, menu is laggy and the music sounds like someone is pulling it back with a rubber band
OH and it's not even rendering the icon to show my selection so I don't even know what I'm picking. Off to a great start. Not even in gameplay and it's already fucking up. Map screen however runs fine and I have no complaints.

Okay, gameplay: slightly sluggish, music and sound is... like a pitch too high or sharp.. it sounds weird to me. The lack of vsynch is very apparent and is almost painful to stare at a scrolling level due to how dis-synchronized it can get just running around where you very begin. Overall performance, like I stated earlier feels like someone is pulling everything back with an elastic band, sluggish and sedated.

I will say it's marginally better.. (cont)

PSP 2000 owner here. I think I'm gonna have to go with >>899419 Better, bigger screen, second analog, and N64/snes emulation. Plus the possibility of updates; I don't think any emulator other than Daedalus is still being developed.

>>899592
(cont.).. than the last time I tried it, but it's still just not good enough for me, maybe for other people who don't know any better and can only afford a cheap psp, but seriously people need to stop running to it as the end-all be-all portable emulation device when even cell phones are starting to rapidly out class it. Shame the vita isn't very hack-friendly, I'd bet that runs snes flawlessly... they should just let us have free reign with the vita by now, sony doesn't even seem to care about that turd anymore

>>899530
>owning a 1000

>>899430

People who say PSP is able to emulate SNES well don't know what they are talking about.

First off, the SNES9x version it uses is really ancient (1.39) and has really innaccurate emulation, especially when it comes to sound, because the PSP is nowhere near powerful enough to run modern SNES9x versions (1.5x). Even then, it still can't run even that ancient version full speed, so they resort to speedhacks. Unfortunately, most of those speedhacks are intrusive and introduce more bugs and glitches in addition to what SNES9x 1.39 already has. Some games still don't run full speed, so they use frameskipping to make it look full speed when it really isn't, and frameskipping is awful for motion quality because it introduces jitter.

PSP just doesn't have what it takes to emulate an SNES well, because a 333mhz MIPS CPU is really weak. You can do much better with some Android-based handheld device that has a much faster ARM CPU that will run a modern SNES9x version full speed.

If shitty sound emulation and graphics glitches with frameskipping is "perfectly fine" to you, then there's nothing more I can say.

>>899494

If it's not frameskip 0, it's not worth using.

Having to turn frameskip on means it isn't running full speed.

>>899460
>What kind of game do you expect to play, OP?
Well, I'm a little bit into Shmups and Action RPGs

So games like Pop N' Twinbee and the Parodius series I suppose

The PSP is fantastic for emulation. But it's a very complicated device with a very confusing homebrew library. Some builds of the SNES emulator snes9x support the Media Engine co-processor, and others don't. Anything with 3D will struggle. And the emulators often have bizarre default settings which require tweaking to get good performance.

>>899512
How about this?
http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-MicroSD-Reader-Writer-GFR204SD/dp/B0046TJG1U/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2ZA2Y8HR55Q3S&coliid=I34F4ONUTEJZYU

>>899736
IIRC, anything which relies on the Media Engine tends to be more unstable, and suffer issues related to the PSP's standby mode.

However, the speed gains are significant.

>>899415
If possible, get something from the GP2X series instead. They run most of the same emulators, but have much faster CPUs.

The only problems I've found so far are that they don't emulate PSX well, and that the Wiz's screen and battery are prone to randomly dying.

The PSP emulates the PS1 fantastically for the rather obvious reason that Sony coded the POPS emulation feature.

The PSP handles the GBC very well, and it also handles the NES and GBA decently, too. However, some GBA games do have framerate issues - if you hate frameskip, that'll be an issue.

Can the PSP emulate games? Yes. Can it emulate RAREWARE games? Erm... Sort of.

Rareware's stuff has always been harware intensive. The PSP may be able to handle plenty of SNES games at 60fps with little or no frameskipping, but I don't know whether any of Rare's games run at full speed on Snes9x Euphoria.

The PSP can emulate Turok 1 at 100% with sound, and Mario 64 at 100% without sound, IIRC. But stuff like Perfect Dark staggers along at 10fps until it crashes.

>>899801
>But stuff like Perfect Dark staggers along at 10fps until it crashes

Hmmmmmmm, interesting. I'll definitely be sure to take that into consideration. How well can it handle 32X, Sega CD, and Super FX games?

I know these are expensive but can anyone vouch for them?

>>899815
32x, no supported emulator.
Megadrive has emulator which has limited Sega CD support, IIRC.
SuperFX SNES games aren't supported, to my knowledge. Or if they are, they're very slow/unstable.

In some ways, the PSP hardware is similar to N64 hardware. It has a beefy main CPU and a weird-ass coprocessor which homebrew developers struggle to code effectively for.

The PSP has some great homebrew, but some ridiculous bugs have been left in major pieces of homebrew. PSPFiler crashes with some image files, as do other image viewers.

Snes9x Euphoria has issues with the home button if you load a game while in another game.

pspwrite will sometimes freeze or crash for no apparent reason.

As much as I love the PSP, there *are* superior devices in terms of hardware. You just lose out on the native PS1 support, PSP ports of Sega/Nintendo games, and the PSP's decent enough games library.

that the d-pad is terrible.

>>899839
Doesn't Picodrive have full sega CD emulation?

>>899415
>What do I need to know about the system?

http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/PSP

>How to install CFW on all models
http://wololo.net/cfw4dummies/

>List of emulators for the PSP by system
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Emulation_on_PSP
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_PSP_Emulators

>How to download and decrypt PSN PSP and PS1 games from Sony
http://www.pspiso.com/showthread.php?1066688

>Plugins for 6.xx CFW
http://wololo.net/talk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=7407

>Microsd to produo adapter
http://www.amazon.com/PhotoFast-CR-5400-MicroSD-Adapter-Dual/dp/B001I0T92Q

>people complaining that the psp can't emulate snes and n64 well
Why would you want to play those on a handheld? The psp is great for emulating handheld games, and there are consoles that are great for emulating console games so you can play them on a TV.

>>899415
You can emulate most of what you would want to and there are many good PSP games.

They are pretty cheap now. Worth getting.

>>899968
>There are many good PSP games
Any worth recommending? Because this is what I'm planning to get so far

>Twinbee Portable
>Parodius Portable
>Salamander Portable
>Gradius Collection
>Solider Collection
>Metal Slug XX
>Metal Slug Anthology
>Ultimate Ghost 'N Goblins
>Wipeout Pulse
>Power Stone Collection
>SNK Arcade Classics Volume 1
>Capcom Puzzle World
>Capcom Classics Collection Remixed
>Capcom Classics Collection Reloaded
>Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles
>Final Fantasy Tactics: The War Of The Lions
>Bust-A-Move Deluxe
>Space Invaders Extreme

>>900037
Final Fantasy VII: Crysis Core

Not retro but obligatory for final fantasy fans.

>>900082
Not really much of a Final Fantasy or vanilla RPG fan. Tactics was really the only one in the series that I liked

>>900037
If you're getting a psp, you gotta give monster hunter a try

>>899724
Then it is good for you. Genesis emulation is pretty good but I haven't been able to play Thunder Force IV/Lightening Force without it freezing on me, and Neo Geo emulation is fairly good as well.

The PSP can run ScummVM rather well. So all those old Lucasarts games - Sam and Max, the Dig, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Maniac Mansion - even stuff like Beneath a Steel Sky will run on it.

That said, ScummVM ports exist for android devices, too.

aside from the snes emulation, id get a psp3000, op.
they can run ps1 games, scumm, genesis, sega cd, nes, atari, cps1 and 2. plus if youve already hacked it to do that, it can also run psp games from the mem card in iso or cso form. meaning you dont have to pay for a game. mine is a silver psp2001 (i think that was 2001), i have about 250 pspgames and bout 60 ps1 games, and of corse the whole emulation library

>>900996
>aside from the snes emulation, id get a psp3000, op

Okay, because originally I was going to get a 1000 because I heard from /v/ I think that the later models were harder to put emulators on

>>901013
>I heard from /v/ I think that the later models were harder to put emulators on
That's not really true anymore. It used to be, though.

>>901013
Nope. The 3k is better in every way. Better screen, better buttons, and is slimmer and lighter, though that's probably a matter of taste.

>>901013
Is /v/ stuck in 2009? Christ.

>>904426
The PSP1000 is a bit more durable, and some people prefer the old screen over the 3000's.

keep in mind SNES emulation is nowhere near perfect. most games are unplayable due to the framerate. Dont let anyone try to convince you there is a good SNES emulator for the PSP... all of them are shit.

To lazy to look for the best one but i'll just leave this here.

>>904513
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sd+to+produo

My bad... But seriously check this shit out.

>>904490
Sad but true, it has all the controls but none of the emulation.

>>899917
I just played through Snatcher on my PSP1000 flawlessly. Not sure about other games yet, but I can't imagine it having many issues.

The sub-par SNES emulation is a bit annoying, but Considering I've personally already played most SNES gamesI care about, it's a moot point for me, at least.

I got my 1000 in december as a hand-me down for my birthday, and It's easily been my most used system since then.

PS1, PSP, GBA, NES, and Sega Genesis/CD emulation work flawlessly thus far. I've managed to play a few SNES games with limited problems.

The thing has been both a gift and a curse. On one hand, I'm getting to play a lot of older games I missed back in the day because I was a poorfuck, the curse is that my backlog has grown immensely over the last few months. I have like 15 games loaded onto my two memory sticks that I'm juggling between.

and godamn you XSeed for never translating the second and third Legends of Heroes games. Trails in the Sky was the best JRPG I've played in years.

It is perfect for porn.

>>904449
>some people prefer the old screen over the 3000's
I don't know why they would

>>906571
Because of the motion problems, mainly.

>>907286
I've heard people talk about this, but I've never noticed it.

>>907302
It's a personal thing. Some people see it, some don't. It's kinda like PAL 50Hz flicker.

>>899603
Well it can be cracked to run PSP homebrew, so all the PSP emulators are available for Vita. Once an exploit turns up for the Japanese store, I'll grab the emulators and see if they run better on Vita.

>>907339
>PSP emulators for Vita
I.........I'm sorry, what?

>>908537
Emulators coded for PSP can be run on Vita via the Vita's exploitable PSP emulator.

I own a PSP-GO and PSP-2000, seems like they run the same. I use the same game, same emulators, only thing really different is if you wanna hard-mod some games like Vice City Stories, you gotta use different scrips in notepad in the ROOT files of the psp

>>900037
some arent even remotely /vr/ but here we go

>Patapon series
Rhythm game in which you guide your army of Patapons into war. Button sequences determine what action they take. If it is your thing you will probably like it. It is EXTREMELY addictive. Only drawback is that it is pretty much impossible to play without sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp173Si-XZM

>Guilty Gear Accent Core Plus
>Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX
>The King of Fighters Orochi Saga
A few great fighting games if you are into them.

>Breath of Fire III
Version of the game, removes a few bugs.

>Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Why the fuck have I not played this yet? ONly avaiable through PSN though.

>Warriors Orochi
Hack 'n Slash with characters from Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors. The lack of voice acting in this version is actually a GOOD thing (you have no idea how bad the voices are until you hear them).

>Final Fantasy I-IV
You should probably consider those.

>Project Diva
Weaboo but I'll be damned if the songs aren't catchy.

That is it for now, other anons will probably have more suggestions.

D-Don't forget! SNES emulation on the PSP is shit! SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

>>899415
Not worth it. They suck.

>>899767

Which games have frameskip on the GBA? The only problems I've had with gPSP were related to Golden Sun and the horrid sound quality.

What is the latest and/or best GP2X or whatever handheld for emulation, or are they pretty much obsolete? I actually had a GP2X F200 a couple of years ago that I remember was pretty good for what it was (barring the use of AA batteries, anyway).

>>910180
There's the GCW-Zero, but there've been problems with that. They don't seem especially competent.

Many people tout JXD's machines but I'm not sold on those because Android.

There's also that one person on this board who's working working with Chinese manufacturers to make our dream handheld. Who knows where that will go.

>>899913
you can do a very simple hack to fix it, then it's pretty good.

>>909879
>Only available on PSN
Just hack your psp. You can rip any ps1 game and put it on there. Shit's amazing. I used to play Command and Conquer Red Alert all the fucking time on my psp.

>>909983
According to emulation coders, Golden Sun is "possibly the most horrifically coded GBA game in existence".

Which explains the slowdown and crashes on the PSP.

>>900037
Here's my pick of great PSP games:

Corpse Party.
Grant Theft Auto.
Silent Hill Shattered Memories
Persona 3 Portable.
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky.
Fate Extra
Valkyria Chronicles 2
Disgaea 1 and 2.
Peace Walker.
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Black Rock Shooter.