/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8986390
>Tried this game thinking it was a japanese videogame
damn, looks like retardanon really dodged a bullet

>>8986390
>>8986391
If you judge a game based on it's country of origin, you're a fucking idiot. Both east and west are capable of making gold as well as shit.

>>8986391
The cover artwork is very misleading. Could be considered as cultural appropriation these days.

>>8986391
lurk more newfag idiot

>>8986390
>horrible Rockstar game with butter gameplay
It's a Bungie game, Wee Todd!!!

>>8986397
Yeah except the west can't make the gameplay of Super Metroid, Street Fighter 3.3, Puyo Puyo, Metal Gear Solid, Persona 5, Alien Soldier, Dondonpachi, Monster Hunter, Final Fantasy VII, Kingdom Hearts, Okami or Dark Souls.

>>8986415
>Persona 5
>Kingdom Hearts
Kek

>>8986390
but totally spies was kino. one of the few pseudo-anime shows i've actually liked among with megas xlr.

>>8986390
>It's the videogame equivalent of Totally Spies.

Never ever...

>>8986390
There’s no time enough barely-disguised fetishes in Oni for it to be compared to Totally Spies.

>>8986415
>Persona 5
Literally the worst Persona game

>>8986662
Being a contrarian isn't a personality.

>>8986679
I'm not being one though. The writing and characters are nowhere near as good as any of the previous games, the social link gameplay is a detriment to the main story by being so disconnected from it (4 also had this problem, 3 is the only one that really got them right) and the dungeon crawling and combat being improved from the older ones isn't enough to put 5 above any of them. 3 and 4's gameplay isn't different enough to be significantly worse than 5's, and 1 and 2's poor dungeon design isn't a dealbreaker. If we're including Megami Tensei games outside of the Persona series there are even more of those that are better than P5 in terms of both gameplay and writing

>>8986475
>show about spies
>not a single 3d stealth/espionage game
huge missed opportunity

>>8986415
I don’t play any of those homo games

>>8986390
And here I was just yesterday, thinking that retards judging artwork based on its country of origin died out in 00's.

>>8986710
You're just setting yourself up for failure, anon.

>>8986390
>butter gameplay

wut

>>8986403
It's not. You can clearly tell it's western art because 99.9% of western artists are incapable of reproducing the anime style correctly. There's always something off about it.

>>8986918
go back to /ic/

>>8986919
Lol, you know it's true. Look at OP's pic. If you can't tell that's western art you're blind.

>>8986390
>weeb thinks shitty game is japanese
>wow its awesome pure soul!!
>weeb realizes shitty game isnt japanese
>wtf fucking janky piece of shit
Many such cases!

>>8986942
There was a disarm from behind? Neat! Stealth is really clunky in Oni, so it's no wonder you'd never see it during regular gameplay. Can you disarm people with rifles from behind too?

>>8986415
"Action RPGs" are trash.

LION AXE

>>8986390
Oni was fucking great, though. The only real problem is that they tried to make the levels be realistic buildings, which did not make it easy to find where you had to go; it's like you are in this gigantic open map trying to find the next objective. Allowed you to find a lot of neat secrets mind you.

That and they had to rush it out and axed the multiplayer. There are some mods which implement them, one of them is a gigantic nonstop brawler mode, it's fucking great.

>>8986918
Oni had an artist working for it who could mimic several other styles at will. It's why it ended up pretty good all things considered art wise, unlike other previous weeb games like Shogo or Shadow Fighter (Amiga).

>>8986942
>not doing the backbreaker

>>8986475
>picrel
Fuck you anon, I nearly spat out my drink laughing

>>8986390
My main grudge against this game is the fact that there's no revolver in it. I have a huge boner for revolvers and was very disappointed when I haven't found that thing that is drawn on the cover in the game itself.

>>8986959
>Can you disarm people with rifles from behind too?
Yeah. Don't have a webm at hand, but she grabs the rifle and yoinks the enemy into a small spin

Another fun thing is to use the cheat code to change your character, which also changes your animations and moveset

>>8986987
>>not doing the backbreaker
too plain, too easy

>>8986397
Cringe fencesitter take.

>>8987003
>I nearly spat out my drink laughing
No you didn't, you dumb redditor faggot.

>>8986390
Can a somewhat comparable or close-to-ideal experience be had with PCSX2 and res/overclock hacks? This game seems like it'll be one of those "by the time I'm done setting it up with a gamepad I'll be burnt out" deals on PC. What's wrong with the PS2 version, if anything?

>>8987084
framerate drops quite significantly from time to time. Also using guns can be a pain, because it has no aim assist whatsoever.

>>8987084
why not just play on PC with Keyboard and Mouse?

>>8987084
>setting it up with a gamepad
>on PC
ngmi

>>8986415
you're an idiot. the west has made some of the best games of all time, ones that prioritize gameplay and skill far more than anything made in the east. e.g. StarCraft, Quake 3, etc. japs have made some amazing games but they dont approach the best western offerings of the 90s and early 2000s.

>>8987097
>framerate
Sure I can emu-magic past that
>guns
Eh, wasn't gonna play this with kbm anyway. Just seems like, outside of shooting this game would suck that way.

I think I can only be convinced to play on PC if someone has some "justwerx with xinput + 16:9 bro" patch, which PCSX2 would do for me automagically.
>checks pcgamingwiki
>all these fixes but no xinput or controller support
into le trash with the PC version then

>>8987112
It's a 3rd person action game with melee combat as a focus. It's fucked to not play such a game on a gamepad.

>>8987126
kind of a shit take
game plays perfectly fine with KB+M

>>8987121
>RTS autism sims
I sleep.
>FPS
Yes that has been a burger specialty, won't deny that.

Outside of that and CRPGs westerners generally can't roll with Japs.

>>8987065
>fencesitter take to hate shitty and like good games games no matter which county made them
Retard.

>>8987128
I'm sure it's 'fine', but does it realllly seem like the tool for the job? Does it? I bet almost anything PS2 was the lead machine.

>shitting on the only good Bungie game ever made
Faggot.

This game still has some of that 90s Mac-jank on it in the UI, text, and HUD elements.

>>8986679
But he's right.

>>8987134
I stand corrected, it was ported. Still not playing a 3rd melee game on a keyboard, sorry! I know, I KNOW! Sorry.

>>8987141
It's okay with a controller, but some choices regarding the gamepad controls are pretty weird. On PC you double-tap W to srpint. On PS2 you still have either double-flick the analog stick, which feels awkward, or double-tap the d-pad, which would mean playing a game with a third person shooter-type camera and using a d-pad for movement. As you can guess, neither way feels all that great.

Otherwise it's standard Bungie fare. Jumping, crouching and attacking are bound to the shoulder buttons, while auxillary actions are on the face buttons. It gets the job done.

>>8987121
Still waiting the first good western fighting game, shoot'em up or Souls like lol. Even their platformers are always the usual "double jump to pass everything without any need of momentum" formula. And none of their 3rd person action game comes close to the super complex gameplay of any Monster Hunter. Western devs are so shit at making boss patterns it's hilarious.

>>8987409
Dude. Super complex gameplay and "souls-like" stuff are literally methods. Western devs just make their games good via different ways. Just because the eastern ways appeal to you more doesn't make the other games bad - they are just different, yet just as good.

>>8986390
Did Larry Bundy Jr. do the cover art or was that a different game?

>itt: sad bitter people
how about you enjoy some games instead?

>>8986390
>Tried this game thinking it was a japanese videogame.
With the box having a Rockstar logo? How dumb are you?

>>8986947
Who are you quoting? OP never said he enjoyed it at any point.

>>8987615
I think that's the point, it's bad because it's not nip.

>>8986959

>>8986390
>Rockstar game

>>8986942
>enemy just walk and turn around randomly and can't be predicted so the stealth gameplay is die and retry shit

Yeah you really wonder why Hideo Kojima would waste his time making tight gameplay and patterns in his stealth game when the average retard can't see the difference of quality with this western garbage

>>8987620
No he stated he didn't like it after he played it which is usual with western gameplay

>>8987985
>western
So, essentially because it's not nip.

does this game use tank controls?

>>8986959
>doesn't even know the basics
>tries to review it by saying it had clunky stealth
lol

>>8986918
>There's always something off about it.
It's the nose and the chin. They look less anime and more Aeon Flux.
Something is off about those lips as well.

>>8986390
>It's the videogame equivalent of Totally Spies.

What part of the game has fat fetish stuff?

>>8987980
that path and spot he pauses at is scripted
literally opposite of random

>>8986415
>>8986918
>>8987131
>>8987409
>>8987980
This is what weebs actually believe.

>>8986390
>It's the videogame equivalent of Totally Spies.
it's french and made by a fat coomer hack?

>>8986715
It's 2022, Thomas Assdump hasn't put any money on a Totally Spies and a Miraculous video game.
He's burning cash here.

>>8986415
amazing you boldly posted zoomer trash like Persona 5 and Dark Souls without the mention of BotW or Elden Ring

>>8986403
The artwork was by that fat ass Larry Bundy jr

>>8986415
Those are action games, rpgs, and strategy games. The "west" made all of that shit prior to the jap invasion.

>>8986390
>butter gameplay
Delicious gameplay?

>>8988747
Some retards painted before Leonardo da Vinci. Didn't make them good.

>>8988839
No, messy and unprecise. You punch around randomly expecting your hitbox will hit enemies hitbox who run around randomly. There isn't even a lock. The combat system is a joke and reflects the lack of work of lazy wester developers. Devil May Cry shits all over it.

>>8986770
you probably play dog shit like horizon or tlou or other PURE SOUL AND ART western garbage games like all the other faggots who took exception to that post are defending. someone who favours western aesthetic calling anything else homo is classic when westerners are literally the gayest and most motivated by homosexuality faggots ever, constantly shoehorning it into their media against the will and desire of everyone else.

>>8986961
that's just like, your opinion, man

>>8987121
>StarCraft, Quake 3

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, nigger. enjoy your grey, dull jaggies, shit soundtracks and boring as shit lore. gross your post made me want to vomit.

>japs have made some amazing games but they dont approach the best western offerings of the 90s and early 2000s.

lmfao

>>8988675
dark souls is seated well into millennial and gen x territory, zoomers are too young to have hopped aboard that train but i'll give you elden ring. for the record, botw is one of the best games of all time. inb4 some fag talks about how elder scrolls or some other gay euro or american shit is better, fuck outta here.

>>8986390

This playable with keyboard and mouse?

>>8987126
>>8987134
fucking what? It controls perfectly fine. How exactly do you imagine it to work better on a controller? It's a hybrid platformer / shooter / fighting game, you need a free motion camera to handle all that AT THE SAME TIME. It's not God Hand where you can't even move the camera or dodge/attack the same time since one is on the right face buttons and the other is on the right analog.

>>8989939
Yes. The game was designed for PC and keyboard + mouse controls.

>>8987528
yes it was this one
Hello you

>>8989618
angryweebnoises.jpg

>>8987121
FPS games are boring. Your shit country and shitty culture simply can't compete. Everything developed on the east turns out better.

>>8991503
seethe and cope

Oni is neat OP a faggot

>Rockstar
Based retard

lot of newfags itt
take a hint and lurk for at least 10 years

>>8991626
I agree, the game has its faults but the depth of its 3d combat was ambitious for the time. Neat look at where bungie came from aswell

>>8991626
>look at that glitch only trannies speedrunners use it means the game is deep

>>8986918
Why can Japan pull off cartoony western style but not the other way round?

>>8992673

>>8992698
Japanese people have extreme attention to detail and an insane work ethic to actualize those details. Their culture has been autistically obsessed with creating the perfect form for things for centuries. From sword fighting to cooking to animation: it's all about creating the perfect form with the perfect movement. The West doesn't have this culture.

>>8992734
Ah, the sweet taste of weeb tears.

>>8986390
I remember thinking that girl was hot as fuck back then

>>8986390
>Literally combines plot of Ghost in the Shell and Dominion Tank Police, both Masamune Shirow's works
>Made by Bungie at its pre-Halo prime

How can one person be so wrong?

>>8992746
She is.

>>8986397
Your post is irrelevant.
The west can make "good games". But it can't make good eastern-style "anime" games. That's the whole point. Oni and Shogo were utter trash desperately posturing to be something they could barely even comprehend. There's nothing more embarrassing than seeing a western game trying to model Tokyo and using basic bitch fucking japanese equivalent of Times New Roman.ttf to write "RAMEN" and "ANIME" down the side of skyscrapers like they have any sort of artistic connection to the culture whatsoever. It's pathetic.

>>8993310
> desperately posturing to be something they could barely even comprehend.
your perception of both games is warped by your extreme weabooness
neither of them are even trying to be "full japanese authentic anime"

nice Nokia get at least