/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
Submissions closed, beta inbound

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
400 MINUTES OF /vr/
Idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/400minvr

VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ (Latest)

=== NEWS ===
[06-06] Turok 2+ mod released, extensive revamp for Turok 2
https://youtu.be/snx0QopGr-8

[06-04] Quakewulf releases a map for Quake 2
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/back4good.zip

[06-03] RAMP 2022 announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129564

[06-03] Action Quake is now free on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1978800/AQtion/

[06-02] JPCP2 has been announced
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm40533066

[05-30] 400 Minutes of /vr/ is on idgames

[05-28] Pandemonia 2.2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60984

[05-26] Halo Doom: Evolved season 2 released officially
https://youtu.be/-sXI0uBU-qQ

[05-26] Ante Mortem episode 1 released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129400

[05-19] Anon shares his MBF21 map
https://mega.nz/file/1pVgibhT#nWJi3R78FvZXgw8JCO_JJNJoKXuTAWOiUeUAQVmPNow

[05-18] The Force Engine 0.9 released
https://theforceengine.github.io/downloads.html

[05-17] Cancelled 40k FPS game released
https://swordandtorchinn.blogspot.com/p/download-links.html

[05-16] TrenchBroom updated to 2022.1-RC1
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2022.1-RC1

[05-13] John Romero is publishing an autobiography.
https://romero.com/shop/p/doomguy

[05-09] DNF2001 leak is released
>>>/v/598471840 Duke is finally free!

[05-04] The Force Engine 0.9 release imminent
https://github.com/luciusDXL/TheForceEngine

[05-04] Fartyguns 1.0 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/poop-fartyguns

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

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>>8984325
>ancient deus worst eternity
lol

512 beta when???

>>8984237
Is it the same doom slayer in every game? even the rpgs?

is there a gzdoom equivalent for shadow warrior?

>>8984452
VoidSW, comes with EDuke. I haven't figured out how to run custom maps on it though.

>>8984452
Raze is in a way a direct equivalent to GZDoom, since it's even made by the same dev.

>>8984325
>>Quality “””build”””? Yeah, sure
Sassy world cloud not a fan of build games

>>8984472
Raze just makes it easy to launch the multitude of different sourceports for for each different build game

What's more "advanced" in terms of features, GZDoom or Eduke? Or something else? What's the most technically impressive source port of a primitive 3D engine?

>>8984494
GZDoom, Odamex and Eternity Engine are all beefy in different ways. I'd say Eternity is the most impressive from a gameplay perspective for how it handles room over room

reposting because last posts are often missed/forgotten
>>8983280
The team behind finishing the expansion is basically the EDuke32 team which is basically the Ion Fury team. So they were too busy with Ion Fury for a long time and now the Ion Fury expansion pack. IMO, they really should not hoard the expansion until they're done working on it.
However, the original build without any of their changes actually leaked and you can play it. The levels can all be played through and are actually pretty fun. They just lack a bit of final polish. Apparently Simply Silly hired some of more accomplished Build level designers rather than the chucklefucks that made Nuclear Winter.

>>8984325
>nowhere elemental encounters necessary dynamite
>release finally monster project
>wrong secret love made doom
>deathkings opinion

Here comes Deathking's big opinion!

Does Descent have a GZDoom equivalent?

>>8984538
>*ting ting ting*
>ahem
>ladies, gentlemen, the slaughtaurs steadily filling this venue far past safety standards and not stopping
>I think the bloodscourge FUCKING SUCKS

I love 3D bridges, I love seeing them and walking over them. Post maps or even megawads that make extensive use of 3D bridges.

>>8984336
>xenogears

>>8984325
>chicken bullshit planning
lmao

>>8984325

>>8984325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_v9bXwSM5g

>>8984325
>quality build yeah sure
>released better duke
>kegan underwater posting
>anyway chicken bullshit
>yes faggot feels
>ok bond read outside
>tried mostly aesthetic phase
>set course kino away faggots
>condescending documentation
>website half retarded
Blessed cloud.

>>8984624
>>kegan underwater posting

>>8984561
Barge In from 2048 units of /vr/
my upcoming map too I guess

>>8984561
Hell Revealed 2, or so I heard.

>>8984624
>set course kino away faggots
Anon plays shitwads returns to streaming when?
>ok bond read outside
lmao my 512 entry

http://www.doom2.net/single/weaponfaq.html

Is this an accurate page for weapon damage stats? Some of it lines up from what I’ve seen on the wiki and provides some interesting conclusions.
>At full ammo, the chaingun, rocket launcher, and plasma rifle will run out of ammo in less than a minute
>Not so for the shotguns: The regular shotgun guzzles down 58 shells over a minute, while the super shotty only uses 42/min
>This highlights how ammo efficient the shotguns are compared to the rest - also further highlights how much the super shotgun beats on the regular shotgun, especially when you compare their dps: 68 to 147
>Despite being less ammo efficient, the chaingun beats out the regular shotgun’s damage per second by 20 for a total of 88
>Super shotgun is basically the “middle of the road” weapon regarding dps
>Chaingun and chainsaw have give or take the same damage per second
>>8984624
>ion released; better duke

>>8984584
What good joke wads beside Mock2 are there? I remember Plutonia 7 giving me a good laugh, but that's it.

>>8984661
>>set course “kino away”, faggots!
Kind of hard to beat “hard fast faggot maps” but I’m still impressed with this one

>>8984679
TNT: Threevilution is a sequel to Plutonia 7, if you haven't played it yet.

guys kegan is fucking drowning

>>8984682
Seconding threevilution

>>8984674
>while the super shotty only uses 42/min
Nope. I’m a fucking idiot who forgets a super shotty “shot” uses two shells.

>>8984684
Drowning in pussy. Haha. No, but someone save him.

Been playing Irkalla and idk what to make of it, it's clever and the fights are fun but it's like something's wrong with every map I've played so far. The flow makes Sigil look breezy.

>>8984708
No, don't interfere.
This is a battle Kegan has to win on his own..

>>8984717
I found it fine for the most part. pretty hard and neat looking.
kinda disliked both maps by peerdolius, but not nearly as much as I disliked his stroggman's tundra map. other people seem to praise his maps though, so I figure it might be a me problem.

>>8984680
Sounds like /vr/ Pirate Doom. Butt Pirate Doom?

>>8984825
That’s a lot better than the “gay Space Balls” setting I was thinking of.

>>8984702
uses two, but gives as much pellets as if you shot three from regular shotgun, so if not used against single weak enemies SSG is actually more ammo efficient

>>8984543
D2x-xl

>>8984528
>The levels can all be played through and are actually pretty fun.
This is a lie. The levels are barren as all hell, the only good one I found before I quit from boredom was the city one with the movie theatre and hotel.

>>8984823
I love his maps, they're very Gazeboesque with a linear progression of combat setpieces of multivaried visual themes and they tend to go on for 20-30 minutes. I can see why someone else wouldn't like his style. What did you think of his A;Z map?

>>8984825
Butt Pirate Doom would be fun.

>>8984624
>>8984628
>>8984684
>>8984708
>>8984776
I have another uncomfortable dream with that fucking eel from SM64 and then I wake up to see this shit. Keep me the fuck out of the water, thank you very much.

>>8984905
What about pirate puzzle doom instead?

>>8984842
>so if not used against single weak enemies SSG is actually more ammo efficient
You got it, it’s still outdoing the single shotgun in this regard.
Seems like the only consistent perk to the regular shotgun is making pistol starts more interesting, or when I’d rather waste shells over bullets on someone out of reach.

>>8984912
And here I thought getting creeped out by that eel was a forced meme. What is it with Americans and swimming?

>>8984949
Jaws was popular here I guess. We’re also scared of clowns.

>>8984954
to be fair clowns were serial killers... but I don't think that's exactly enough reason to be scared of them anymore when our education system has more killers than organized crime

>>8984452
>>8984484
Raze is a amalgam of a bunch of source ports with a GzDoom Booty. It's fine for casually playing the base games and hit-or-miss for running mods/levels/addons.
Raze GL palette emulation is also pretty piss-poor leaves shit looking deepfried in places.

I'd recommend using the ports Raze is biting off of, for now. Maybe in the future Raze will become an advanced source port, but for now it's just very basic and easy way to play Build game's vanilla, and a hack to do much else.

>>8984954
Oh yeah, I never got why you guys had so much clown themed horror stuff. I guess depression era carnivals were really infamous? Circuses are pretty damn rare in the US of A from what I can tell, but this century old evil clown / freak show stuff keeps sending ripples all the way into the mainstream. You know, I'm not trying to shit on your culture, I'm just wondering. Things like ICP or King's "It" make no sense to me.

>>8984981
We have clowns at like every parade. Carnivals do still exist. Faires are common as fuck and feature clowns. Rodeos have clowns.
I'm not afraid of them tho. Or that eel for that matter. But I assume clowns are considered off putting because they paint their faces and that slides then into the uncanny valley for some people. And then they act silly which just reenforces that.
>>8984949
>What is it with Americans and swimming?
I have no idea what you mean. We swim just fine.

Why is swimming less a feature in modern shooters? I guess you don't really swim day to day irl, and it's not as satisfying to swim in a game as it is to run/jump...

>>8984879
>What did you think of his A;Z map?
I guess I didn't mind it, I vaguely remember the parking lot and the finale.
I think that Gazebo-ish arenas are fine, and I'm ok with lengthy stuff. my problems with the strogg map weren't even about encounters for the most part. just lots of empty corridors with slow-ass elevators, kind of pointlessly meandering progression, and enemy breadcrumbs that are hidden until you already turn the corner. and it looked like an uglier Insomnia for Q1 which is already an uglier Q2 which was ugly to begin with. also the midi was grating (despite all midis having the same author?). and I think it had a hurtfloor arena that I just waited out circlestrafing instead of engaging properly.
with his Irkalla maps, they don't even feel like maps but rather multiple maps (barely) stitched together. and in the unholy cathedral there's a section where I backtracked to get the secret, and then only found my way out on like fifth attempt, because places that seem nearby are actually connected with some roundabout paths through multiple floors. while the other map had really awkward cyberdemons - again I just left one wandering around, which I never do in other maps.

>>8984998
to be fair I cannot really think of any good sections of a shooter with swimming
but despite that it's kinda disappointing to never see them anymore same with all the cool weird gimmicks and guns
I miss that early 2000s/late 90s water look

>>8984981
>Oh yeah, I never got why you guys had so much clown themed horror stuff. I guess depression era carnivals were really infamous?
That and a guy named John Wayne Gacie killed lots of people dressed up as a clown awhile ago. Then just a few years back a bunch of shizchos dwent around acting spooky and weird dressed as clowns, real random shit. Can’t even begin to describe how stuff like ICP got big, but their fans have been nicer than I’d ever expect. It’s real nonsensical.
>You know, I'm not trying to shit on your culture, I'm just wondering.
Lol you are fine.

>>8984717
is the artist for the titlepic credited?

>>8985010
>to be fair I cannot really think of any good sections of a shooter with swimming
The sections in the first Serious Sam weren’t bad. That’s also all I can recall.
Shadows of the Empire had that giant sewer boss hidden under the surface, but it’s less of an “FPS” and more “action/adventure” though there is lots of shooting.

>>8985028
>The sections in the first Serious Sam weren’t bad. That’s also all I can recall.
I’m real dumb today, Duke 3D has some underwater shooting segments that were tolerable. All the build games do to some extent, though a cultist falling into the water in Blood is the worst.

>>8985010
Duke has a couple decent sections - of course, they're smoother since there's scuba gear
HL and Thief had a couple each also.

Are you people serious? Water levels in video games suck ass, or at the very least are a downgrade from normal play. I am scared of water though so maybe that's just me. Makes my lungs feel claustrophobic.

>>8985038
Dukes levels with water weren't that bad but they could have been well more treasure hunter-ish
diving for secrets and all that I could only imagine what a proper modern duke game would have looked like with actual fish and stuff

>>8985051
I'm sure you would love Marathon 2 heh

>>8985051
nightdive should remaster aquanox 1/2 and add limited oxygen supply

>>8985051
Water levels in games are good if the player speed isn't taken down to a snail's pace and if the movement mechanics are altered to make 3D movement not annoying, but the issue is that hardly any games do this

>>8985051
I sink like a stone for some reason, and even I'm not scared of water. I'm scared of heights, however.

>>8984912
Kegan's third weakness has been discovered
>Australians
>Bananas
>Water

>>8985086
>>8985063
>>8985051
I think this is why I find the water segments in Duke tolerable to enjoyable: They play similarly to how Duke controls with a jetpack, you’re just watching your O2 levels as opposed to fuel.

What the fuck is going on atm?
The last two threads have been a total mess.
Did some rabid sperg's ban expire or what?

Also, 512 beta when?

>>8985109
>Also, 512 beta when?
Soon.
Please consider my liberal use of that word.

>>8985114
>Please consider my liberal use of that word.
Come on now, think of others, like Chopblock.
94 Protons could already be done!

>>8985023
Yep, it's Wereknight

>>8985118
It unironically is.
He's just too busy flooding our sekrit club with unfunny garbage to actually start ir.

>>8985038
Thief is a bit different in that regard since it's more about exploration, which that game excels at.
Except in Thief 3, where you sink like a fucking stone. They shouldn't even have let you near the water, it's such a weird design choice to have it kill you instead of just roping it off.

Unreal does okay too since it's mostly about the exploration. There is a little bit of water combat, but it's not much. It's more like the water is a hazard than an environment you want to hang around in.

>>8984912
64 Eels of /vr/

>>8985131
Like the golden souls, only every star is an eel star and every map is a water map.

>>8985131
>>8985135

So far Scourge of Armagon has been a refreshing change of pace. After burning through Final Doom and the Master Levels I was afraid the Quake expansions were just going to be more of the same.

serious sam classic mapping project but every level has to include a water section in it

>>8983948
strictly speaking I think neither of them are Sneed or Chuck, it's gotta be the owner inside. but yeah, I've got the other farmer's model too, not rigged yet though.
the melting anim without adding the vanilla pile of gibs looked ugly, and I'm too lazy to do it properly. I'd rather clean up the pixels. also 256x256 seems too high-res? zandronum complained that something was wider than 160.

>>8985051
Yeah. Water, sewer and iceberg levels are the low points in almost every game they're in.

>>8985158
Plutonia managed to have an actually great sewer level, the one in Serious Sam TFE wasn't bad either. Ice levels are cool though.

>>8985149
The new content helps refresh things. I always wondered what Final Doom would've had as new weapons or enemies if they decided to add any.

>>8985169
>sewer
Is this a forced eceleb meme or are sewer levels really bad? I liked sewer areas in douk and Deus Ex 1, second level of doom 2 isnt bad either

>>8985156
I'm pretty sure the shorter one with white hair and green shirt is Al Sneed and the one you've pictured here is Charles "Chuck" Tamzarian, I think 256x256 should be perfect, zandronum auto-scales player sprites when it thinks they are too big but it also takes invisible pixels into account so I can just crop the unused space and it'll be fine, zandro will never break from oversized sprites so if u have any concerns just don't worry and I can sort it out for you

>>8985182
it's a forced eceleb meme. it's that one faggot who got butthurt over the tranny joke in that one duke game

>>8985169
Toxic Trace in Alien Vendetta as well. One of the best maps in a legendary wad.

>>8985169
>Ice levels are cool
heh

>>8985158
Sewer levels are universally great

>>8985128
>Except in Thief 3, where you sink like a fucking stone
there was a water jam/contest for T2 as a response, and Temple of Tides is the first FM I ever played.

>>8985182
Sewer levels are just a common trope, but there are two examples that stand out as being particularly bad. Dark Forces, and Redneck Rampage.
The recent highlighting of them is an eceleb thing, which is fine if it's kept to his local memery, but of course that's not going to happen. Not his fault.

>>8985197
>there was a water jam/contest for T2 as a response
Neat. Didn't know that. I don't play many FMs. Only played a few plus T2X which was cool, but main character was a retard and the plot was too dumb. Good production overall though, and the missions were a lot of fun.

>>8985201
What about Ion Fury?

>>8985197
There are some fan missions in Thief that are games into themselves. the level of mapping design is out of this world in some of them.

Kinda makes playing both campaigns quaint although i still love the original maps.

I dont know if some people would like this, its a weird dream of mine of picking up old games like Thief or HL and now that tools are restrictions are "over" remake the original maps but put a tons of new details and features without breaking the idea of the original levels too much.

>>8985206
I never really bothered to look to see if anyone remade the original thief in the dark mod
hell I wish there was any way to make thief look visually better
the low poly 3d models have not aged well for the type of game it is and adding unreal cartoon models would be gross

I feel like the only engine that could make it look good would be id tech

>>8984912
>>8984949
For me it was the eels in Majora's Mask.

>>8985205
I haven't gotten to a sewer level in that yet so I dunno.

>>8985213
No nobody did anon, never really gave a damn about the dark mod, its super jank. I am still waiting for the black parade however.

I think Thief aged well, its not a game that looks good on youtube its something that you have to play to get into it.

doom demons featured in this mario crossover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvIYZPHbPo
i remember this guy's stuff before he vanished
honestly, this is probably the first i've seen anything about doom lol
it's also brazilian
>>8985149
how many quake mods use stuff from the mission packs?

>>8985182
>>8985201
Sewer levels in 80s/90s games were heavily constricted and filled with obstacles and/or annoying enemies at odds with the rest of the game's design. It's more of a console gaming thing but they were definitely hated. If you're into platformers it doesn't even need explaining, that's where the meme was forged.

>>8985218
what a shame. oh well at least there's graphics mods to make them look like thief 2 or slightly better at least
original models are genuinely ps1 tier

>>8985205
They're fine and introduce the zombies. The "lowest point" for the game are the few levels before the hospital.

>>8985215
Fuck those things too.
Though I believe they're Snakes.

>>8985227
I will be fair there is a certain quake cool quality to them. I dont mind the slight more polys from Thief 2 but again its the sound that make them.

>>8985172
The Final Doomer weapons give us half of that, but it's missing unique monsters.
Zombies using a set's pistol, shotgun and chaingun replacements could be a start.

>>8985201
>The recent highlighting of them is an eceleb thing
Nope, it's always been a thing. People just out themselves when they act like this is some newly discovered phenominon.

all the TECHNOLOGY in this map was neat to see

>>8985250
fuck those rock tumblers

>blocks your path

>>8985257
>hits him with a beserk punch

>>8985257
>unblocks my path

>>8985267
>it does a low roll, only pissing him off. Then he proceeds to turn around and fire several shots, all of which are high rolls
There is no worse feeling in vanilla Doom than a low roll berserk punch.

>>8985268
>multiple chaingunners
>they're not lined up
Ouch. I'd rather have this or the plasma rifle out and then switch to the super if need be.

>>8985272
>hit imp
>imp immediately claws you back instead of collapsing into a pile of gibs
at least it keeps you on your toes

>>8985272
>3HKO an imp with berserked fists
>doesn't even gib
blue balls tier

>>8983242
This is pretty fun but don't forget the basics of map making, otherwise you'll end up like MAP28 of 400minvr

>>8985124
I like his "80's corporate-asshole-look"

>>8985315
Taking down pinkies in total of 5 hits is ineffable experience, berserk punches were never a viable tactic.

>>8985334
At least pinkies are big enough to block eachother and can be reliably held in place. I feel safe zerk punching much larger groups of pinkies than hell knights, for example.

>>8985320
That's weird, charcola's 2048 map had both amazing level design and an automap waifu
I have only seen screens of map28, maybe it has good gameplay atleast

>>8985362
the 2048 map was more inspired, didn't have the time limit and had multiple chances to get advice and revisions, so it came out better. 400min map was rushed and it shows.

Feels like I don't work fast or use many tricks so I always dont do well with a time limit.

what are some good doom megawads/slaughterfest maps

>>8985248
I literally said it was a trope. Things don't become tropes without being noticed. I said the recent wave of
>sewer map
Is due to eceleb memery.

>>8985329
>"TURN AROUND AND FACE ME, INSE-"
>gets blown away by landmines

>>8985410
The slaughterfest trilogy, slaughtermax, and Ad Mortem has a few good ones by your own anons.

>>8985189
The SEWER LEVELS BAD meme predates anyone knowing who the fuck Cripple11 even was, you had guys like Yahtzee making quips about that a decade ago.

>>8984823
>Цoй
>peerdolius
Heh.

>>8985434
Serious Sam 2 made a joke about it in 2001. It's an age old joke made by the genre itself.

>>8985442
I think it's unfair because I grew up with TMNT and The Real Ghostbusters, so I think you could make sewer levels which could be cool.

>>8984452
>>8984457
What is better? Shadow Warrior Classic Redux or Shadow Warrior + VoidSW?

>>8985447
Sewers' purpose lends well to idea of using them as a hub. I'm surprised by how few times I've seen them used that way.

damn it can't I even play my doom peacefully

>>8985449
I'd say VoidSW, there's the issue with invisible landmines in Classic Redux and I've also had problems with the mouselook feeling like shit in that port.

>>8985463
...what?

>>8985463
What did he mean by this?

>>8985449
I prefer VoidSW but it might not have widescreen sprites for the katana and other weapons. For SW I use Raze now.

>>8985457
Probably just linearly minded design. For that same reason, sewers just asceasily make a great narrative shorthand for getting from A to B on a one-way trip. But obviously, you're just gonna see a lot more of those one-way trips in the average game than any kind of hub.

Map08 of 400 minutes of /vr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfE2Mb-03ZU

>>8985480
Raze just implements VoidSW anyways

>>8984561
Caverns of darkness and Phobos anomaly reborn

>>8985498
Has anyone patched Caverns Of Darkness to MBF21 or ZDoom yet? It feels kind of wrong that it's basically obscure.

>>8985449
I have been using raze, honestly I have been loving it for the trio.
Classic redux the mouse is fucked for some reason.

Blood has individual better levels and great setting, but I think after playing this on raze I think I like SW more just for the fun guns, and great melee.
The only issue is that the rail gun is kinda wonky.

I love the enemy roster as well.

>>8985418
you seem confused, anon,
>sewer map
has always been a thing. But acting like a faggot about it is new.

What do you think Duke and Shelly's relationship is like?

>>8985607
Movie star and stalker

>>8985182
oblivion had some cancer sewer levels (areas, cells, whatever) and soggy dungeons in general
the sewers of 2fort haunt my dreams to this day and that's only like a quarter of a map

>>8985607
Explosive in a fun way, one likes bombs the other likes nukes

>>8985607

You mean the real bombshell right? Its like Max and Mona but hiding their emotions.

>>8985637
Honestly I don't even know what the original shelly was supposed to be like. All I know is the Ion Fury girl.

>>8985640
>Honestly I don't even know what the original shelly was supposed to be like.
Neither do most except some quotes from duke but still better than the Ion Fury one we got.

>>8985640
>>8965872
There were a lot of ideas for her. I can't say I'm disappointed with the one we got for Ion Fury but her Bombshell (2016) design was really dumb.

Does someone know how to save a net game on Zandronum or Odamex?

>>8984875
I disagree.

>>8985158
>iceberg
Blood though.

>>8985685
Ah, thanks. Was the original Duke Nukem Forever supposed to be her first appearance?

>>8985182
Not that they're always bad, just that they always show up, so it became a meme that when the developer has run out of ideas, they make a sewer map. Same deal for storage crates. https://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/39.html

>>8985706
I think that was the idea but don't quote me on it, it's just what I've glanced at the other thread.

>>8985578
Fair enough.

>>8985717
To be fair if you have your player moving through a real-ish environment it's pretty natural. You go "oh a church, red light district, maybe building tops... Underground... A sewer I guess, maybe train station".
I mean there's not much else underground. Caves.

>>8984384
No, Anon, You ARE the doomguys!

>>8985778
Are there any levels that take place in an underground military bunker?

>>8985815
E2M2

>>8985778
>I mean there's not much else underground.
Crypts/catacombs are cool, I think Paris has those. There's also lost/abandoned subterranean towns, like the one in I think Seattle.

>plain text manual for Hideous Destructor is 108kb
Is it really worth it?
Tried it a bit and it feels like a bunch of micromanagable mechanics added just for the sake of micromanaging these mechanics while the combat itself feels like western-style who-shot-first-wins with barely any depth. That's just my first impression, obviously I haven't seen shit yet, and judging from the manual size alone I haven't even scratched the surface. Also it feels like 99% of existing wads are just not working with this style of gameplay.

>>8984237
Update for 512 Linedefs of /vr/:
Touchplate Trouble (v3) [CL9] by donk_konk
https://files.catbox.moe/apeui7.zip
MIDI: Sand Canyon 3 from Kirby's Dream Land 3
Tested with DSDA-Doom v0.24.3

Added more health to the final room and made it inescapable once you activate the fight. I have no idea why I didn't think of being able to bail the room until now. Hopefully the final update, if they're still being accepted.

>>8985867
I'd say it's worth getting into, just not through UV when you're starting out. Most wads are very comfortable to get into with the spawns reduced through lower difficulties. There's lots of difficulty adjustments through the mod as well.

>>8985759
Do people find this kind of room interesting? Maybe its just my taste, but my eyes glaze over when playing in these kinds of shiny futuristic environments. No matter how much color you add, its still just a bunch of randomc omputer panels.

>>8985867
I'd say yes. But I speak with some bias because I've been playing it for a few years and acclimated to things and enjoy the way it sucks. Also there's a lot of nuance to combat when you're fighting the hellspawn. Furthermore if you're wanting a weapon with more depth, pick up the Thunderbuster and wield the power of the gods and probably kill yourself in the process.

Also while some encounters are gonna be REALLY fucking hard in HD, there's almost always a way out if you're clever: You can pick up a weapon like the Liberator and use the 7mil ammunition to shoot through thin walls and kill monsters inside closets before the trap springs, you can plant explosive traps with grenades and wires, or use IEDs to blow them up. Or deploy one of the automated gun turrets (Either the DERP which is a pistol on treads, or the HERP which is a more traditional machine gun turret). Beyond that, if the encounter is well and truly fucked, you can just choose to leave. Kick a door down, or blow it up and just leave the level.

>>8985884
Of course updates are still being accepted. It's just new map entries that aren't.
Actually, we do need a super secret level still.

>>8985905
This reminds me
I heard Eric streamed the rest of 400mins, but I only see up to MAP28 on his Twitch.

>>8985915
I haven't finished yet. I had shit to do over the weekend, I'll get back to it tomorrow.

>>8985917
Ahh, sumimasen. I thought Twitch said you'd streamed more recently, so I wanted to confirm. Seems I was mistaken! Gomen, gomen.

>>8985915
Sure, you have places like livestream.com, Youtube and Twitch.tv for streaming, but what about mirrativ, and Dlive and Vaughn.live as well?

>>8985896
>Do people find this kind of room interesting?
yeup

>>8985867
It's not for everyone, but for the right kind of person it's like cocaine. It's fairly punishing, with enemies capable of sneaky bullshit, but you as the player have your own sneaky bullshit.
There's a strong focus on realism, more than any other Doom mod, but it's not all dry and boring, you can get up to some pretty fucky shenanigans which are completely unrealistic, mainly, but not exclusively because of, magic.

>>8985896
That room in particular looks somewhat uninspired, but the textures are good and could be used for something nice.

>>8985896
My eyes always snap to realistic details when everything's so busy. It's kind of comfy when it clicks like that.
>the amber overlay on the plants, apparently a display case per the NOTICE sign
>the printer and monitor on the desk with a poster behind the chair
But yeah, only the left half of the image does that for ne.

>>8985948
The overall build coziness is great throughout.

>>8985952
>that fireplace
I love comfy aesthetics so god damn much.
I'll hafta put some kind of sitting area with a fireplace in my 94 Protons map.

>>8985934
Techbases really are the best, aren't they?

>>8985952
You're playing through too? I'm on my second go-around, feel like they nerfed it quite a bit, combat doesn't have as much bite. ||or maybe I have gotten better||

>>8985973
bro
are those
discord spoiler tags I see?

>>8985706
Yes. She was first seen in the 1998 trailer and was part of the story up until 3DR sold to Gearbox. She was even going to be playable for a small portion of the game.

>>8985976
||no||

>>8985994
THIS DUDE CAUGHT LACKIN'
LAUGH AT HIM

>>8985989
>up until 3DR sold to Gearbox
Maybe. It's possible her part was cut before that. The plot document is from July 1998 and in January 1999 Broussard made a tweet saying "Cutting is shipping".

>>8985994

>>8985973
The deacons (flying missile dudes) don't feel like they erase all my health as much, as well as realizing how much they get stunned with the bow. After getting used to the first few levels, it's otherwise been about as difficult as I remember MF being.

CHOPBLOCK GET BACK TO WORK YOU LAZY FUCK

>>8986035
ChopBlockem — Today at 9:54 PM
Anyway, it's real late and I've gotta sleep, I'll post it when I wake up.

>>8985607
Johnny Depp and Amber Heard

>>8986046
Rip in Peace

Why is Powerslave so expensive, usually the crooks don't give a fuck about FPS games

AAAH I FUCKING HATE THESE FAT CACODEMON CORPSES BLOCKING MY VIEW

>>8986119
green fireball suddenly emerges from one

HuauH

more like Engorged Cuckplant lmao

>>8986296
I don't get it

>>8985952
Is this a doom wad or no?

how would you rank the enemies for sniping purposes?

>>8986317
Hello I Rank.

Zombieman - 4 sniping purposes
Shotgun Gy - 5 Snipeing purpose
Imp guy - 3 Sniping purpose
Baron of Hellknight - 6 sniping purposes (like imp damage up)
cacodemon - 3 Sniping purpose
Revenant - 7 sniping purpose
Mencubus - 8 Sniping purpse
Cyberdemon - 9 sniping purposes.
Spinder manstermind- 10 Sniping purpose (8 if not)

I hope that helped

>>8986339
Are...are you gandob?

>>8986339
what about arachnotrons?

>>8984237
GZDoom 4.8.0 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75532

>>8986438
More like arachnotroon these days.

>>8986438
9 purpous

>>8986478
well, weapons in ad mortem seem to work now
was anything else broken?

>>8985230
Ion Fury could have used less tech labs and sewers and more cyberpunk cityscapes.

>>8986569
>fixed radius of BossBrain actor

Once again, public shaming gets shit done.

>Shadow Warrior is a sendup of Kung Fu flicks
>Duke is a Sendup of 80s Action
>Blood is a sendup of horror
>Ion Fury is a sendup of Cyberpunk
>Redneck Rampage is basically a Troma film
What other genres of B cinema should have a build engine game based on them?

>>8986593
Blaxploitation, buddy cop comedies.

>>8986593
Blaxploitation
Neil Breen films

>>8986610
>>8986615
>black dynamite but as a build shooter
actually too good for this world

>>8986624
Only if the protag can have a boomerang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdLq68m2G_o

>>8986627
>>8986624
Guys basically a Build Engine protag already.

Hi anons. I'm a recent Duke trier and I liked it quite a lot. So much so that I want to play it again with a mod or some added weapons or content or something so I tried the first popular thing I could find, which was Alien Armageddon. It sounded cool and seemed perfect since it adds a little bit of everything for replay value, but it just hasn't felt right. I don't hate it or think its total shit. It just doesn't feel right for some reason. Is there some other kind of mod for Duke that I might enjoy if Alien Armageddon isn't clicking with me? Or some other version Alien Armageddon that is tuned differently maybe?

>>8984235
>4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
>https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA
the dude updated Tomb Raider 1 and 4, but the readme has not been updated since Hitman update. So i take it its some sort of fixes and upgrades.

Thanks dude

I'm working on a 7-10 maps wad, 5 are already done. I need a bunch of different gimmicks for each map to keep up variety. Got any ideas?

>>8986615
>Neil Breen films
So, a hacker protagonist destroying the corrupt government?

>>8986593
Tremors and Eight Legged Freaks

>>8986002
We know she persisted up to and until the final 2007-2011 version when they replaced her with Captain Dylan. There are screenshots of her character model before she was taken out, see >>8985685

>>8986593
I might sound crazy but I can imagine King Ass Ripper as a protagonist in a Boogerman gross-out style Build game. Hell, some of his quotes sound like something Duke would say when killing enemies
>Dayum, sniff that raunchy one
>Hah haah, smells like rotten eggs and garbage
>Drench this baby in fucking mayonnaise yeaahhh

>>8984561
Dimension Of Boomed uses faux 3d structures everywhere.

>>8986593
Westerns. Okay, Outlaws was that pretty much, but we'd need a new take on that imo. Some cool gunslingin' action, apaches on the warpath, gunslinger duels, gangs, corrupt army, some sexy burlesque dancers and cowgirls, hangings etc.

What about Spy films? Maybe they're not always low budget but by god are there a lot of spy movies you could pay homage, take inspiration and refer to in form of easter eggs. A massive load of scenarios to play with and wouldn't need a Bond license either.

>>8986624
>blaxploitation done in [current year]
nah I'll pass personally

>>8986723
>What about Spy films?
Wouldn't that just be a sprite version of NOLF?

>>8985564
Graf made gzdoom port few years ago. Murdoch is porting it to Eternity atm. MBF21 woudn't work unless removing bunch of content.

>>8986705
>>8985685

Not sold on the Bombshell model but some of the concept arts, particularly the one right above the empty EDF suits, daymn!

>>8985607
I would like if it was like a "will they or won't they" kinda thing where they want each other but can't admit it so it's flirting back and forth but Shelly making fun of Duke when he tries something but then making some innuendo-laden jokes of her own etc etc. Then in the end, fireworks time baybee

I do wanna say I have an issue with a mindset I've seen from Civvie11 and some other people on the 'net, is this idea that somehow Duke Nukem Forever is "sexist and gross" and they try to explain that no no the OG Duke was respectful to the ladies or whatever and the sex in Forever is just grooooosss and to me that's imo historically revisionist fagshit, love it or hate it, Duke was always a horndog and whatever idea of "tasteful" people had in their head is warped. Of course it could be them saying it to pander to soiboi audience or something idk.

>>8986726
I didn't play NOLF
Also maybe less Austin Powers-y than NOLF was.
(But bring on the sex puns of AP tho')

>>8984235
Yesterday I played a few Hell themed maps from Obsidian. It's legitimately creepy. Something about playing on a map that no other human has ever been to and was created by an AI that doesn't care about your opinion really adds to the atmosphere.

#bring back sexy

SiN remaster when ?
Yes, I know it's coming, just wondering when the release is.

>>8986581
They should thank /vr/ for that
>>8986569
>weapons in ad mortem seem to work now
nice too

>>8986610
>>8986615
>>8986698
>>8986723
Prettt much all good ideas IMO. I especially would like a western one. Another thought would be a Zombies Ate My Neighbors remake. Could be fun co-op, plenty of enemies and weapons already designed, AND it'd be a fun iteration of a zombie themed shooting game without being generic as fuck. The arcade-ness of it would be perfect.

>>8985905

>>8986817
There's a TC of that, but Doom. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=52590

>>8986829
Neat. I had a feeling someone might have thought of it too. I'll check it out.

I'm gonna properly animate these tomorrow/today but I'm pretty excited for this.

>>8986928
Oh and holy water bottles leave broken glass behind now.

>>8986964
This mod looks amazing

>>8986964
Gib

so after a bunch of research i figured out how Duke Nukem 3D multiplayer would work if anyone is up for that sometime.

eDuke had an old multiplayer program that has forked into NetDuke32
>https://voidpoint.io/StrikerTheHedgefox/eduke32-csrefactor/-/releases/
and a make shift lobby esque program that works for a lot of old games is YANG
>https://yang-online.com/

also the curators of the mega.nz in the op aught add Duke.RTS since it's needed for multiplayer, it's included on the original disc like the .GRP is, that can be obtained here:
>https://archive.org/download/Duke_Nukem_3D_v1.3D_1996_3D_Realms/Duke%20Nukem%203D%20v1.3D%20%281996%29%283D%20Realms%29.iso/DN3DINST%2FDUKE.RTS


but yeah if anyone has been dying to play some dukematch (guilty) then we could get this going, it's not as popular as Doom is but it can still be quite fun!

>>8986971
I'm not sure how many people still play it, but I've been in the process of updating it for a few reasons. If you want you can play the older version here.

https://combine-kegan.itch.io/combined-arms-gaiden

I'm in the process of stripping out the overpowered movement tools, really that was a case of me making something I thought was cool without thinking too much about the serious problems that crop up with that.

>>8986981
Well you can see above that post I'm working on updating the Solar Pistol and making it a dual wield weapon. After that I still got to make the two new chainsaw slot weapons, actually implement the Space Hunter rifle, and some other bullshit under the hood.
Fuck and I forgot I plan on adding some customization options like pistol start stuff.

>>8986964
Will it be CA part 2 or just another update?

>>8986998
Nah, this is just an update to Combined_Arms Gaiden. This all started from people in the Pizza Tower server complaining about Arti being too OP due to his high spam weaponry and his map-breaking agility, and rather than just simply gutting the offending weapons I decided to make a whole new set, and then because I have a fucking problem I'm also overhauling the current set.

>>8984235
ok. since NightDive is gonna "remake"/steal code Unreal 1, is there a DOOM WAD that recreated all the Unreal 1 levels plus weapons?

>>8986593
Make a Starship Troopers Build Engine game.

>>8987008
Don't be retarded. Even the extremely advanced Doom source ports are unable to replicate all the features of an engine that advanced.

>>8987024
>replicate all the features of an engine that advanced.
i mean just copy the layout of the maps and imitate the weapons in Unreal1.

>>8987030
>replicate
yeah keyword RECREATE.

>>8986593
Shitty Star Wars ripoffs

>>8986593
Ryan's Babe adventure game

>>8984384

>>8987008
There’s only the weapon mods that I’m aware of, Doom Tournament for UT weapons and Doomreal for the original arsenal.

>>8987005
Can I request that webm of the weapon that spawns the cute little cultist and revenants that binkie around and generally cause a bunch of trouble? It cheers me up and I don't have a copy to look at.

>>8984651
>>8984660
>>8985498
>>8986718
Good recommendations, lots of great faux 3d structures everywhere!

>>8986659
I feel you, anon. I've been digging into Douk addons as of late and been a bit disappointed at the quality of level design in general.
Alien Armageddon, while an impressively ambitious and large project, seems to want to shoehorn a bunch of slapdash stuff, either visually or gameplay. All the sprites and custom graphics are clearly just resized jpegs of stuff searched up on Google, there is little to no refinement going on, almost all of them have horrible aliasing artifacts. It looks really poor and drags down the game visually.
The gameplay mods, while still kinda cool, feel like I'm stuck playing on some Zoomer's goofy GzDoom mod load order.
Enormous effort, but the lack of restraint in design is a drag.

>>8987023
There's Duke3d tc for that.

>>8985905
Are there wads which both are compliant with HD balance and don't skyrocket performance pressure because of HD itself? Framerate drops on me because of either lots of barrels\flaming corpses or during large spawns in trap arenas. As an example I have a notable problem with a level in Running Late 2 within a square grid area where you have to live through particularly large enemy spawn before level lets you out.
Also what is the site with daily map packs generated with OBLIGE?

>>8987254
>HD
>instantly think of HDoom
I hate Hideous destructor

>>8987259
Do you really play map packs with HDoom? It sounds like a weird flex to me. Why don't you play a proper porn game though? Maybe that gif was too much for you?

>>8985994
>>8986000
>getting called out this hard by trips
it`s over, anon

>>8987273
I mean what kind of sick freak would do that...

>is a 3-barreled fucking revolver
>just kinda goes pkew-pkew instead of dislocating your shoulder with a deafening bang
i`m being real rn, what in the actual life of fuck were they thinking?
also, has anyone that other top-down shooter about shelly, is it alright?

>>8987292
yeah the firing sound could be better but it is the future so maybe they've made advancements that reduce the overall recoil, allowing them to make a practical 3-barreled revolver that anyone like Shelly can use

>>8987292
I got bored of ion fury after a hour I'd rather just play SW or DN3D. got no idea about the top down shooter though

>>8987292
It's probably shooting small bullets.

>>8986478
>fixed radius of BossBrain actor
Lol

>>8987292
>also, has anyone that other top-down shooter about shelly, is it alright?
It’s one of those “okay for $5” games. You’ll get better gameplay from good Doom maps. I also like her with normal hair and not that sidecut meme.

>>8987321
in context, the sidecut makes sense because she now has a robot arm attached to her shoulder and you really don't want hair getting stuck in that
but I do agree that sidecuts suck

>>8987292
>Why aren't the weapons realistic
C'mon now.

The gun sound is great in my opinion, sounds like a stack of books.

>>8987306
.25 iirc.

>>8986964
Does the glass effect all monsters or are hooves and mechical legs not counted?

>>8987254
>coomer image attached to otherwise decent post
I fucking hate you so much. But I hate being alive even more. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckf ufckf ufckf ufkc fuck fuck fuckf ufck

>>8986984
Was duke Nukem all c2c, or were there dedicated servers?

>>8987372
It's a request first and foremost, hence I felt like putting a treat for readers. Being considerate is a bad thing now I guess. Were you really looking forward to a shitpost attached to a lewd picture? I think you better play some FPS to went off the steam. You sound like a HDGuy getting a hangover from a berserk pack.

>>8986593
Trashy Cannon Films sci fi like Nemesis or Omega Doom. Bonus points for getting Albert Pyun to come up with the premise.

>>8987475
>Omega Doom
I'm not familiar with this .wad

>>8987254
Peppergrinder is good fun if you want more weapons. I personally also never play HD without the sawed off slayer mod.

>>8987505
I know about additional guns. I even use DeusDoom or bullettime mod sometimes. I was asking about "level pack" wads.

Why does everyone put this monster in their WADs?

>>8987583
Genie demon give 3 wishes but not for free

>>8987583
fancy spritework and dehacked fuckery is done for them already and scythe is a classic series

>>8987583
The game needs a flying heavy hitter.

>>8986990
You can take the /v/tard out of /v/ but you can't take the /v/ out of a /v/tard.
The 4chan build is going nowhere.

>>8987583
It's cool.

>>8987583
It's been around forever and people know what it does, and it fills the role of being a high-tier flier

>>8987374
c2c? the original relied on dial up and direct modem connections, and one of the two possibly both latest versions have some rudimentary thing going on where matches are hosted to a lobby and vanish when they're joined or something, i'm not sure if those work if you pirate them though.

would anyone be interested in deathmatches of Doom 3? with the resurrection of evil expansion pack installed there's a supershotgun in the game, and multiplayer doesn't immediately breakdown with more than 4 players in a match the same way Doom 2 does.

>>8987739
I very vaguely remember the multiplayer being surprisingly competent. Are you CLOVR guy or someone else?

>>8987583
It's shit, isn't it? Skillsaw was right, Doom has too many high health monsters.

>>8987761
someone else, i haven't looked into clovr but from what i gather i can schedule matches for others to see on it?

>>8987763
>why can't my slaughtershit be even MORE slaughtery?

gimme 512 beta pretty pleeeeease

>>8987791
Working on it. Map order is going to be the hardest part, it's not as clear cut as 400 Minutes.

>>8987030
>replicate unreal with 3d floors and slopes
I mean, it's possible
it's also possible to grate your testicles and dip them in lemon

>tfw no .mdl gf

>>8984325
>website half retarded
rude

>>8987830
How do you determine map order? Just a general difficulty curve?

>>8987781
Clovr just runs games on a set schedule.

>>8987860
For 400 Minutes, it was generally sorted by difficulty, but not entirely. I also tried to put higher quality maps closer to the start to leave a good first impression. A2Rob's map was placed pretty early despite being fairly difficult. There were lots of gimmick maps, so for the third episode of the set, I made it so the order would alternate between a gimmicky map and a more traditional one. The traditional maps would serve as breathers before and after the wackier experimental maps. There were a few outliers, such as how Live Complex was placed in MAP09 because it's a Dead Simple clone in the wrong map slot, and also for meme value.
Seeing how nobody really complained about map order from the beta all the way to the final release, I'd say this approach works very well.

>>8986753
Fuck yeah, although by my estimates we will only have babes again in around 30 years.

>>8986779
Dont expect it nor kingpin or anything else, 3d realms is in the limbo before its either bought or dissolves.

>>8986593
>Ion Fury is a send up of Cyberpunk

Is it?

>>8986593
Sword and Sandal, Conan melee build game. Complete with see through breast cup princesses of mars.
If its as pretty as IF and has that great desert feel of Powerslave it would be amazing.
I said melee but it can have tons of ranged shit, something like Hedon but not gay.

I think a Arnie type parody of fantasy movies would write itself.

>>8987909
Build engine is pretty bad for melee though, I'm trying to picture how you'd go about modding it and I'm drawing blanks.

>>8987583
cause it's a cool monster and scythe is loved.

>>8985250
what's this?, I never played the expansions

>>8987941
Scourge of Armagon, first episode.

>>8987880
Hmm, that seems much tougher to set up than I thought, you have to test pretty much every map
My map "Last night I bonded[...]" is pretty gimmicky, so maybe that one for the secret slot after a death exit? Then again I hadn't tested the others so maybe there are better suited ones there

>>8987926
>>8987909
Sounds like “Rekkr for Build”.
Shadow Warrior gives me some hope that a mostly melee build game could work, then I harbor some doubts when I play Witchaven.
>>8987893
With IF I’m reminded more of that Transmetro/Dredd-style “shitty future”, not sure what to label it but I’m not offended with just filing it under “cyberpunk”.

>>8988010
>not sure what to label it
"Dystopian futuristic" is what I always heard it called before the "cyberpunk" became the pop culture catch-all for techno-chic.

>>8987173
Of course, anon

>>8987369
All monsters, seeing as Gaiden doesn't use custom monsters or anything. Really even with the hooves and mechanical legs, I picture it'd still hurt those guys seeing as that glass is coated with holy water.

Finally, I have a gridfilling path generated. Now I just need to make sure it's all connected. Pretty sure I already know how. If I'm right, I might have this project before the weekend is over.

>>8988015
Seems a pretty thin line all things considered, and I don’t know how much that new Cyberpunk game helped the situation.

>>8988092
Looking tight anon

Brutal Bond update
https://files.catbox.moe/yfu5n1.mp4

Got a shotgun into the game, shootable civillians and some scripted dialogue.

my goals today
-Finish the Courier level. Unlike the movie/game you'll battle it out with the guards on the staircase with a short barrelled FN FAL which will spit fucking fire and blow people into chunks.
-Make the shotgun not suck
-Turn the dialogue into cutscenes
-Make the guards neautral towards you until you shoot one of them or trigger their ire

Eventual goals
-Dialogue options: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=52710
-Mac 11, AK-74, 1911, Calico SMG, P90 will be added
-Better MP5 model
-Shootable corpses
-civillians that flail their arms around and scream while running in all different directions like in old PS1 games.
-Ski level

Why is Powersphere Quest so GODDAMN HARD?

>>8988092
I realized I can visual the pathing process, and fixed the last algorithm. Maybe change the first 2 more for collision detection, but that's for cleanup later if so.

There's no excuse for this kind of waiting. 94 Protons Of /vr/ is now go and we have the Beta assets ready (other weapon reskins will follow), read the 'pamphlet' for information.
The episodic themes aren't TOO rigid of a requirement, Plutonia itself kind of just did whatever, and levels are moved between with teleporters. It would be cool if you played around with the textures and props though.

There's slots to claim for the E1 boss level and E2 boss level, as well as for a Hunted tribute, optionally also second one. One big level per each episode, going before the boss level, would be good. Otherwise, levels can largely be kind of whatever.

The E1 boss level should feature some sort of arena battle where you fight two Paratamizers at once, and probably fighting a couple of normal Cyberdemons before that (perhaps base it on Cyberden). The Paratamizer can be used as a mini-boss in E2 and E3
The E2 boss level is open for discussion. I had the idea for an Icon Of Sin style level where you maybe destroy some 'phylacteries' or something, and the eyeless baphomet there also has eyebeams to shoot at you with, but perhaps something more interesting can be done.

https://files.catbox.moe/rdb26n.zip
The main file has the textures and all the code for running in DSDA, use that as the base. PROTDECO7 is the beta patch for running and testing levels in GzDoom, it currently covers everything implemented in the base.
It's running from June 7th to July 8th (take 4th of July off).

>>8988219
Heh.

>>8988219
>no fireblu
ONE. FUCKING. JOB.

>>8988219
Paging news post >>8984237
feg

>>8987292
>the virgin Loverboy
>vs
>the chad R&C Thunderhawk

>>8988219
2048x2048 is kinda small for a Plutonia map. Most seem to fit into ~ a 4000 x 4000 envelope, though they don't fill every nook and cranny obv.
Some are 3500 x 5000, or 4000 x 5000.

>>8988219
FUCK, we need to update the DeHacked one more time first.

>>8988306
Is it? Maybe I've just been going by bad memory then.

>>8988313
Are you for real right now

>>8988313
>Is it? Maybe I've just been going by bad memory then.
Generally. They're not huge, and I don't think any of them I've seen fit in a larger envelope than 5000x5000, so definitely don't make anything absurd. But yeah. If you made a 2048 map and filled it to the brim it would probably be around the same floor space as one of their 3000 x 4000 maps.
I didn't check the size of every map though, I just picked ~10 at random.

>>8988318
That's still 1/3rd of the set. I think 4096x4096 seems like a safe bet.

Easy game, boys. Just a few maps left now.

>>8988319
Yeh. A few are 3000 x 3000 though, so there are some small ones.
Anyway. Just a more general rule of "don't make any fuckhuge maps" would be fine. I mean it would be a good idea to exclude anything that doesn't make an attempt to be similar to plutonia, anyway.

>>8988317
Forgot a sound file.

>>8988334
I guess it can be crossed out.

>>8988325
Is that the 512 Linedefs of /vr/?

>>8988352
400 min

>>8988219
Title: Extremely Balanced And Incredibly Fair
Author: lunchlunch
MIDI: Cry of Desperation by Eris Falling
IWAD: Plutonia
https://doomshack.org/uploads/94Plunchlunch.wad
This was made back in like early March.

>>8988368
I thought this was supposed to be a Plutonia inspired wad, not a killer5 one.

>>8988375
This stopped being a plutonia wad long ago

>>8988214
That’s awesome, I like the third one (the ones that looks like it tries to avoid crossing existing paths before a certain limit) the best. It would be cool if you combined all three into a mixed bag option that could randomly choose one of the three methods to use for each pass maybe? Or basically make it use one method for a little while before switching to another at random.

>>8988219
Title: Bloody Pulp
Author: Sitri
MIDI: untitled (Will probably end up using another one later.)
IWAD: Plutonia
https://files.catbox.moe/i4aac2.7z
Made this in 2019 originally, reworked it a couple of months ago. Did some more with it over the past couple hours.

>>8988375
The opening and ending rooms have a Killer5 aesthetic, the rest is heavily Plutonia-inspired though. I studied/replayed some of my favorite Casali maps right before making it. I was still entrenched in 10x10's style though, so I can see why you'd think it looks a bit Zzul-ish, especially if one didn't get much further than the opening.
At any rate, I think this is a better/easier map than my 512L and 400M submissions, which didn't telegraph things well and probably required some preknowledge.
>>8988404
The only thing I think is too out of place is the DOOM64 noises

>>8988219
Alright, take two, with the missing sound effect.
Sorry for the delay, Windows 10 started acting up.

https://files.catbox.moe/vsl0mm.zip

>>8988368
Alright, I'll look it over.

>>8988450
I could remove those and leave those for the GzDoom patch I suppose.

>>8988460
Paging the news post a second time
>>8984237

>>8988219
Awww yiss
Gotta get my mapping move on then

>>8988461
I'm absent minded today.

>>8988462
Make sure to get: https://files.catbox.moe/vsl0mm.zip

>>8988219
>>8988427
https://files.catbox.moe/knfa85.wad
Attempt #2, I forgot to add a conveyor to a monster spawn.

>>8988219
>>8988427
https://files.catbox.moe/5250rd.7z
Attempt #2, I forgot to add a conveyor to a monster spawn.

Map09 of 400 minutes of /vr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVVu7XqbAPY

>>8988525
glad I'm not the only one stumped by that secret exit

>>8988460
So what source ports support mbf21?

>>8988571
DSDA-Doom, Woof, Odamex, and GZDoom as of its latest version.

>>8988571
DelphiDoom, Doom Retro, DSDA-Doom, Eternity Engine, From Doom With Love, GZDoom, Nugget Doom, Odamex, ReBoom Experimental, Woof!

>>8988571
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MBF21
Most noticeable are DSDA-Doom and now GZDoom.

>>8988368
Alright, that level kicked my ass, I like the ambushes and the traps, and it looks gorgeous. I'll have to give it a go in DSDA in a moment, though I expect I'll fare slightly worse there.

Railings in pic related aren't solid, not sure if that's intentional, so either they should be solid or they should be another midtexture.
If I were to suggest any gameplay changes maybe one or two more stimpaks, but I like that the level is hard, it could fit in the late game.

>>8987008
They wouldn't re-release original Unreal and I'll die on that hill. Epic just couldn't be bothered.
>>8987292
Bombshell? Haven't played it, but some reviews and gameplay footage suggest that the game could've been so much more. Turret section(s?) shows that they should've went for third-person view instead.
>>8987873
>Clovr shilling by other anons
Not the guy behind it, but thanks.
>>8987887
>3d realms is in the limbo before its either bought
They... were bought. Besides, SiN Reloaded is more of a Nightdive deal actually.
>>8988010
>Dredd-style
Reminds me of that anon who suggested that Shelly should've been more like Dredd.

>>8988219
https://files.catbox.moe/qwryn2.zip
Trimmed the Doom 64 sound effects from the DeHacked version, also the Decorate patch for GzDoom should run now.

>>8988624
Third time so I know what link to put in the next OP >>8984237
Have you considered using a mega?

>>8988460
Does the midi pack in the file imply that we can only use those midis?

Also the included folder of MIDI files are for anyone to use, just claim dibs on a file if you're gonna use it so that we don't get duplicates.

>>8988629
Maybe I should.

>>8988579
>>8988585
>>8988587
Thank you anons

>>8988614
>Epic just couldn't be bothered.
Epic are idiots who'd rather leave free money on the ground than put their back catalogue on EGS. Maybe they're afraid it'll reveal how shit their new stuff is.

>>8988632
>Maybe I should.
Yeah, but make it a Mega folder link that, so that when you update files inside you don't need to share a new link to each file every time (even just one .zip that contains everything would need a new link every update if it's a single file link and not the contents of a linked folder.)

I know you can search for stuff in Doom Builder, but how do you search in Slade's map editor? Like, highlight all rocket launchers, or all medikits, or all revenants, that kinda thing.

>>8988654
I was gonna say there shouldn't be any more small tweaking for now, but there may stuff I might miss as the DeHacked and Decorate stuff is updated in the future.
I'll aim at a better anchor post for the next thread.

I'll be honest I'm getting a little upset now.

EVERYTHING'S ARCHIE
ARCHIE'S HERE
ARCHIE'S HERE
ARCHIE TOO
ARCHIE'S HERE
HEY ARCHIE, WHERE ARE YOU?

Okay when the fuck is Ion Fury Aftershock coming out?

>Deadly Kiss will never come out.

>>8988879
No Wang

>>8988237
Ok hear me out:
What if...
firegrn?

>>8988219
Shit, the aesthetic looks nice from the screenshots alone. Is there a testmap where I can play around with the new enemies or something yet?

What's his catchphrase, /vr/?
>inb4 "Soon."

>>8988980
Patience is a virtue.

>>8988980
"We're in for some chop."

>>8988980
"It'll be out when it's out."

>>8988943
Ohh, Christmas theme

>>8988943
Merry Christmas

512 Linedefs of /vr/ beta inbound. I'm still sorting out the map order. After that I'll have to make CWILV lumps again. Hooray.

>>8988994
"And I'm not talking about my foreskin"

>>8989148
Keep your stick on the ice.

>>8989148
Looks like an infected rash.
Niceee

>>8989207
Keep your dick in a vice.

>>8988980
Has he got sideburns, or am I being fooled by aggressive shading?

>>8989313
Yeah, those are sideburns.
94 Guy is, like, totally hip, daddy-o.

>>8987224
Yep. That sums it up pretty well. I think I'd like it more if it was closer to vanilla. All the changes makes it feel like a different game which is good for some people, but not me.

Goodbye jetpack.
Hello extra gun

>>8988980
two more weeks

>>8989510
I think you should delay the holstering of one side's gun slightly, the same way you did with the draw. They look like they would clip through each other if they physically existed. Looking good otherwise.

>>8988318
What about Odyssey of Noises, map29? It seems like it's either pushing 5000x5000 or exceeding it.

I liked TNT for its tech style and have never touched Plutonia. 6 maps in and it's pretty fun so far although a bit too bland in textures. I hope it doesn't get too intricate in the end like Evilution. Yeah, commando bros and archies are present since the first map but it's still good for light hearted runs with RLA, RL monsters, lightRPG and zetashop. I can't imagine playing it with something more "demanding" like Brutal or Hideous Destructor though.

>>8988587
What about Odamex? It was one of the first ports to get full MBF21 support.

>>8988980
Fuck Carnevil("Carnevil" in Diablo font).

>>8989573
I actually fucked with the animation since posting this cus it was bugging me too.

/veer/, can anyone recommend any good weapon/gameplay mods? I love DooMRLA, Codename Demolitionist, and Gunslinger, but I kinda want something else that has a similar amount of gun, but not Russian Overkill OP.

(I wish Weasel made another Terrorists! style wad)

>>8989643
DAKKA.

http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/dakka?sort=M