/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8977843
Its shit

>>8977843
Sadly it's shit. And I'm not buying the console just to play JSRF and Ninja Gaiden Black, fuck that

>>8977875
>>8977903
Why is Xbox emulation talking so long to get reasonably playable? Does it have to fo with special Direct X API functions Microsoft put into the system's software that wasn't documented or some undocumented hardware or what? It can't be any CPU based apecs since we can emulate the CPU many times over in 2022 and PCSXw is reasoably accurate and Dolphin is fucking fantastic. However tbe Xbox is stuck in emulation purgatory.

>>8978019
I have no idea about the reasons, but I've freaked out when I've found out that savegames are tied to a motherfuckin' HDD, so if your XBox has to have an HDD replaced - you will have to re-bind all your savegames to a new one.
Not to a profile, not to a console, but to an HDD. What kind of a madman did it and why?
Also, the process of re-binding is quite a hackery. And I've thought moving games from profile to profile on 360 or PS3 was tedious.

>>8977843
Its developing with a few games being 100% playable. Biggest downside is the surprisingly steep system requirements to run it.

>>8977843
Xemu is doing really well, majority of the library is fully playable from beginning to end, with enhancements and little to no bugs.
https://xemu.app/#compatibility

It also supports things like multiple internal resolution rendering.
Still some games crash, like Unreal Championship 2, which is what I'm waiting for. But if the games you want to play are playable, it's a better experience than a real Xbox these days. Most people still seem to be stuck in like 2018 when this wasn't the case.

>>8978148
>>8978158
make up your mind

>>8978158
That's indeed one impressive list. I've never watched Xemu much, because I'm lucky enough to have a jailbroken 360, and so far haven't met a game that wouldn't run on it, but it's great to know I have an extra option just in case.

>>8978174
can a 360 play og xbox games without issues?

>>8978182
I've walked through Black without a hitch, Return To Castle Wolfenstein also worked nicely, Burnout 2 was flawless...
Forza Motorsport has a lot of sound issues and framerate noticeably drops on several turns on several tracks, but other than that it is very playable and very enjoyable, almost completed it.
MechWarriors and Unreal Championship 2 are waiting for their turn. I've heard that they work, yet I'm more interested if it is possible to install DLC for UC2. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure it is possible to do it, but I haven't looked into the issue just yet.
If you are really interested in performance, I have some videos of Black and Forza Motorsport.

>>8978281
*MechAssaults
quickfix

>>8978182
Some games it can't play but Xbox's in-house emulator is definitely better than any other ones.

>>8978132
You can use an Xbox memory card to transfer them to a different Xbox.

>>8978340
Yea, basically this, plus jailbroken 360's back in the day got leaked some dev files or something, which extended the list of supported games.

>>8978132
It's even worse because the Xbox is encrypted and you have to flash the firmware to be able to unlock it. If your console is the 1.6 model with the supposedly fixed clock capacitor (that you can't get rid of) you either have have a backup drive with a cloned filesystem or a modchip.

>>8978281
>>8978340
>>8978353
is there a compatibility list? can it play genma onimusha?

>>8977903
why not? theyre super cheap, easily modded, can output at decent resolution, they are great to own.

>>8978392
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_games_compatible_with_Xbox_360
Your game is included. There's also a video on YouTube confirming it. Sometimes you just gotta use the search engine, anon.
>>8978417
Super cheap is a relative term, I guess. I also struggle to buy a console just for two games.

>>8978462
cant you play games microsoft didint add if it is jailbroken?

>>8978470
As >>8978353 noted, there was some leak, yes. Still, even with that leak some games are not supported as far as I know.

>>8977843
Xemu is pretty damn good if you have a decent desktop processor.

>>8977843
So is it just better buy a 360 and softmod it somehow? What model do I need to look for? I want a black one

>>8978743
Xemu works. If you're gonna buy hardware to play original xbox games, why not buy an original xbox? It's probably much cheaper.

>>8978761
Depends on which games he wants to play, because potentially he can get both 360 and original in one package by buying 360.

>>8978773
t. microsoft salesman

>>8978773
360 isn't really worth it for original xbox support, even major titles like halo 1 and 2 have significant performance issues. It's nice they tried but the experience isn't great.

>>8978743
There are no X360 softmods. Only hardmods.
It's a pain compared to just getting a OG Xbox and a PS3 for those generations games.
Those are easily softmodabble.
You could just keep a legit X360 for the X360 exclusives (or get a newer console that runs those with the backwards compatibility).

>>8978817
I'm reading that you just need to mod the DVD drive so that you can plug it into your PC (SATA) and install custom firmware. Doesn't seem too painful but I'm not sure what Xbox revisions and firmware work yet (researching now...)

>>8978787
Hmm... never knew this. Still, I'm not sure if having a separate OG Xbox (which is huge) in addition to a 360 (which ramges from huge down to medium)

>>8978885
...is worth it (forgot to finish my sentence)

>>8978885
original xbox is cool and fun and interesting and a little mysterious (yet handsome) so go for it.

>>8978019
Lack of interest, I guess

>>8978132
Has to do with an EEPROM key or some shit. You can dump it as a just in case

>>8978417
>super cheap
Not in my country. Also I sold my 360 for like 50$ like a retard. My relatives gave it to me, I never played on it, only ever owned Playstations and Nintendo consoles and I genuinely didn't know 360 was backwards compatible with the OG Xbox. Now I feel stupid. I spent those 50$ on something stupid like cigs and coca-cola

>>8978383
Jesus, this sounds inhuman. I'm so glad they've eased up on the saves on 360. I wonder if somebody just came to reason or if there was some local outrage among XBox gamers.

>>8977843
Pretty good, you can do it on 360/XBO/XBSX and on PC via Xemu

>>8977843
Xemu is pretty damn good if you have a decent cpu. Most games I've tried worked without issues, though increasing the internal resolution of some games are quite taxing, like in Panzer Dragoon, but for the most part it's great. I like the minimalistic aproach of the emulator, just a couple of basic settings and done, you don't need to change anything.

>>8978019
tl;dr People assumed it would be easy. It was not. Queue decades of stalled progress.

>>8978417
>Super cheap, Easily modded
In what FUCKING way? (Pic not yet related, don't have a hernia.)

I picked one up cheap during my garagesaling days around ~2015-2016 and it's been an enormous pain in my cock ever since. See, disc drive wouldn't spin up, and even after hours and hours of 'how to softmod' searches on a dozen occasions over the years, every god damn result is
>Use the disc drive to start exploit game
>Use the disc drive to boot burned CFW loader
>Buy our modchip and bust out the soldering iron, lol!
>Also something about having to fucking hotswap the hard drive in the process, which is probably on its last legs, so go out and buy SATA adapters for IDE cabling and shell out for a 500gb+ hdd too :^)

No fucking way to mod it without the drive - and, oh, what do you know, there were multiple different models of them and most were infamous for dying over a decade ago. How about you buy another one instead? Oooh, but sorry - no combo of 'original xbox drive', 'OG 2001 xbox samsung dvd drive', 'not fucking 360 or xbox one drives you absolute fucking CRETINS' will actually find you ebay listings - and even if you DO find one, it'll cost you as much as a fucking system itself.

Which brings us back to that pic: I spent such an UNGODLY amount of time trying to work my way into the thing (including four separate instances of trying pot tweaks, before buying a potentiometer, doing it again with actual readings, and STILL failing to get a working drive) that I finally just said fuck it a few months back and bought myself out of the pain.

I'm actually reverse engineering/copying the thing's filesystem RN in prep for once again diving into my original system, now with a confirmed working drive to swap over, just to finally, god willing, get it modded too and be free of this albatross. Still, I've modded PSP, Wii, Vita, PS2, 3DS; literally nothing has been even 10% of the pain of OG xbox, and I fully expect it to be yet another nightmare in waiting.

Dunno, I have a real Xbox. Bought it pre-TSOP, flashed in the newest ind-BIOS for Dashloader (for XISO loading) and it works perfectly.

>>8978132

Just get an Action Replay.

>>8980009
Why not hardmod it then?
I mean, if it is even possible with original Boxes.

Who even cares?

>>8980036
How the hell does it help me in transfering savegames?
>>8979456
Yea, I believe I've dumped everything I've needed and acquired all the soft needed. Still, once it will come to it, I'm pretty sure there will be some unforseen complications.

>>8980009
Bro, you're a tard.

Solder like two lines. There, TSOP.

>>8980037
Yes, always was. You don't even need a modchip.

>>8980105
>Just solder it bro
Good suggestion, totally serviceable! Except, thing is: anything involving soldering immediately becomes neither cheap nor easy. Unlike softmods, It's always going to require the purchase of a wholeass workshop and the research/learning of a new technical skill; compare to PS2 modding, where buying a $10 exploit memory card and sticking an ethernet cable into the console's all you need to start playing backups, and the difference is night and day.

You wanna start soldering? Gotta buy ~$250 worth of mats across a decent iron, solder, wick, flux, wires, ect; that whole set I've ALSO spent years hemming and hawing over buying for the occasional dead wireless dongle or sketchy cap replacement, but every time another component to buy comes to light (last time around it was 'you have to buy a hot air station too?!?') and it once more becomes more of a PITA than I'm willing to deal with at the time. And that's discounting the modchip you have to buy for the specific mod as well; you can qualify all this with 'well, it's an easy SOLDER job...' all you want, and that can totally be true, but the mere fact that OG xboxes essentially have no readily available modding means other than fully busting the things open and going to town on the electronics themselves 100% places them firming in the modding 301 course tier. This isn't a 'why haven't you modded your 3DS' sort of deal; you actually need significant investment, and unlike its contemporary PS2 and Gamecube the modding process hasn't really gotten any more streamlined since its hayday back in the aughts.

>emulation is practically non-existent
>not that cheap
>hard to mod
>therefore even if you get it the games are expensive too
>biggest exclusives are stuck on this machine forever at this point
>backwards compatible games reportedly don't run that well on the X360
This console is fucking cursed, I'm telling you

>>8977843
Honestly? Sometimes it's shit and sometimes it isn't. It's worth it to youtube first or see for yourself these days. You may be surprised. Someone on here brought up this weirdo game Galleon made by one of the lead devs of Tomb Raider, and it worked fine in Xemu.

A lot of people will just generally tell you it's not even worth trying because Xemu is a pain in the ass to set up, and that's a huge filter. There are some pre-configured Xemu setups on archive.org. One other thing of note: Xemu's gay about what media it wants. It wants ISOs, but a certain type, I suppose. DO NOT DOWNLOAD FROM THE ISO COLLECTION ON ARCHIVE.ORG, THEY DO NOT WORK, download from the 'HDD ready" archive, then throw those files into an ISO using the c-xbox tool.

>>8980009
There's like 20 original Xboxes for sale between 10 and 30 eur here. All working and easily modded.

>>8980184
Literally using a 10€ wireless iron and did the job, didn't even buy extra flux or solder, shit came with the iron
You're a tard apparently

>>8980217
Did you even read the thread before posting?

>people are this /g/ illiterate here and brainwashed with eBay prices
Really? I thought it wasn't this bad but this is literally plebbit here.
No wonder I can ask hundreds of bucks from people for soldering a couple wires or flip locally bought consoles for 10x profits on eBay, people really are just idiots.

Between Xemu and a modded 360 I feel like I can at least limp through most hueg games without the hueg.

>>8980009
What the fuck are you smoking?
Also even modded 360's are the same price, another option to play OG Xbox games on too.

>>8980184
I understand your frustration, but you absolutely do not need to invest that much in soldering equipment. Especially if you're just doing one little job, you can get a cheap iron with solder and a stand for like $15 to $20 (there are dozens of these kits on amazon). And soldering is a skill you can learn in under half an hour.

>just solder bro'd my 360
>deathly afraid that if I move it any more than absolutely necessary it'll be undone
Some of those points were soooo fucking tiny and I don't trust the tard-job I did, haha

>>8980264
>>8980259
Honestly I think there might be a region discrepancy here; any functioning NTSC xbox goes for ~90-120 after shipping, and anything bought locally or on craigslist you're 90% of the time gonna get something broke. Makes something like >>8980009 make sense; base price + HDD + Custom shell makes the actual labor in cleaning, constructing, de-capping and provisioning a TB's worth of files only cost some $50. An hour or two's labor at a decent job, and more than comparable with how long you'd spend grabbing crap from Vimm's lair or scouring through torrents.

>>8980353
>ebay
No wonder.

>muh emulation
Just swap the hard drive and enjoy your 100% compatibility
>>8980009
>actually trying to buy consoles on fucking ebay
Lmfao you are retarded, I see them on fb marketplace for 30 bucks

>>8980353
No regional classifieds sites? What, really? Users are rated on those, you usually won't get trash from someone with 99% positive feedback and a account years old, even when the Xbox costs 30 bucks since they just want to get rid of it.

>>8980184
Your powerlessness is sickening.

>>8980353
But doing it yourself is half the fun and then you know it's done right. I could even use pre-modded consoles, at least not without checkup, imagine having a shit experience and not knowing about it, since someone else fucked up.

>all these people just saying to get the console
Not what he asked. I have a few other machines outside of my emulation box and I gotta say: if I can get away with it I'll want to emulate 99.999% of the time. It feels like such a concession to go over to some gay special machine for a single game.

>>8977843
Most of the non-licensed property heavy hitters are playable on the 306/One/Series.

>>8980184
>tard just realized what soldering is
welcome to game modding, that'll be $800~ in total equipment so you don't give yourself lung cancer like the retarded youtubers who solder with flux without a good fume extractor and no gloves

>>8980841
soldering a handful of through-hole caps isn't going to give you shit and can be done with anything with a hot enough tip and some solder

>>8980184
>normie gettin filtered
soldering is super easy to learn
you can get some kits for like $15

>>8978019
Because there is no unique library. Nobody wants to write a fully fledged emulator just to play conker live and reloaded.

So they did make some halfbaked ones that do run this game. There is no interest beyond that.

>>8982809
>Because there is no unique library.
There is, and it's a tremendous one not worth sleeping on. You can skip the gamecube, dreamcast even, but the Xbox? Nah. That's like not having any NES in your library. Tragic.

I like how half the thread is talking about how there's no emulators 'cause it's hard to do and it's taking forever and nobody wants an xbox emu anyway, and then the other half of the thread is like "wow xemu is great, I'm playing X and Y and Z in it right now!"
And somehow the first half just can't see the second half, like they're invisible.

>>8982810
The xbox is trash, literally has no real games and mostly normalfag trash, just like the 360

>>8982820
Xemu is not perfect, don't get me wrong, but it's definitely worth looking into. It's just, people won't because it's not a simple program to set up. I've explained prior how to get over that gap, anyway.

>>8982850
Low effort shitpost.

>>8978182
Halo 2 has this infuriating image retention problem during single player. And AFAIK certain environment sound effects in a lot of games don't work.

>>8982820
N64 emulation threads are like this, too, with people complaining about how N64 emulation sucks, as if they're stuck in 2012 when that was the case, completely ignoring the massive improvements made since. Not that it's perfect now, mind you, but it's still far better than it was a decade ago.

>>8982820
People are just stuck in the past, Xbox emulation exploded in the last 2-3 years.

>>8982860
Xemu definitely plays more than it doesn't now, so it's an actual option, yet people are like "there is no working emulator", which is the point of the post.

>>8983767
It's not just drag pokemon.gbc into it tier, though. You a few system files, not just one, and some of them are slightly elusive because muh cobbywrites. Then you have to perform a virtual soft mod, and then you have to feed it specific ISOs. It's filtering for sure, so it might as well not exist for many.

>>8982938
Phantom crash runs weird and half of your gameplay will be in slow motion

>>8982982
the n64 emulation sucks meme is funny because basically all games were playable on some version of an emulator but little things like the texture filtering being wrong or the noise transparency being an alpha transparency had some people treating the emulation like it was unplayable. It does matter to get that right in order to create the accurate and therefore best experience, but basically every game worked and was playable. Saturn's in a similar state now, games generally all work but the way the system actually performs many of its functions is not accurately recreated which can cause some oddities.

>>8977903
A used Xbox at Goodwill is like 40 dollars. That's the cost of 2 games last time I checked.

>>8977843
the only three or four games worth emulating seem to be running fine on my end

>>8978182
JSRF has massive slowdown on 360 in some levels, playable but annoying

>>8984080
>basically all games were playable on some version of an emulator
Eh, it was more complicated than that. Yes, almost all games were playable, especially if you stuck to the usual popular mainstays (Mario, Zelda... the list goes on), but it necessitated several emulators (sometimes needing an older version), a bunch of different plugins, and often fiddling with the settings and plugin combinations on top of that. None were Just Werks.

Just check out this site, which proudly advertised that almost all games were playable with the correct setup, and to its credit did its best to attempt to give the best possible combination of emulator, plugins and settings on a per-game basis, and even packaged everything into one download, but you cannot say this situation was at all user-friendly:

http://bhemuhelp.unaux.com/n64mgcl/N64ConfigList.html

Thankfully, we're well past this stage now. You download either Project64 or any flavor of Mupen64Plus, use ParaLLEl-RDP, and call it a day for the vast majority of games.

>>8984167
yeah, the game will drop from 60fps to 30 due to how its vsync works so it can feel extremely jarring when long stretches of play are at half rate. This isn't just for a few seconds, it's for entire levels.

>>8984039
It petty much is. Most ISOs online are already xisos and all you literally do is drag it onto the emulator to play, controller is auto mapped, there's no graphics settings that you need to tweak, just download a Xemu pack that already has BIOS and you're good to go.

>>8984039
>Then you have to perform a virtual soft mod
What? You literally can use a retail BIOS and don't have to mod anything, even empty HDD works.
Have you ever used it or did you use something else and are confusing it with it?

>>8978158
>Still some games crash, like Unreal Championship 2, which is what I'm waiting for.
Update, Unreal Championship 2 is fully playable now.

>>8984396

>>8978417
cool it with the cope will you

>>8984540
coping with what exactly? I own 2.

>>8980184
>>8980841
This. I'm just attempting to remove/replace the clock capacitors of my original Xbox, and I am still lacking the vent fan for fumes, helping hands, mats, wick, and solder to even get started. Hidden costs include a phone which can machine translate Chinese instructions. The NEET kids which live rent free in a basement even make lousy excuses like "a practice board is only $15" not knowing that is just over 2 hours of work for that $15USD which is to be discarded on a failed practice. The only logical explanation is some sort of kickback for funneling money into China. Rising inflation and spiking fuel prices has made it more difficult to get the necessary funding. It would be more cost effective to find someone that already has the equipment/skills to perform the operations, but they are all asking for some $60+k annual salary to be paid by individuals for a supposed singular "simple job".

>>8985173
Kek, for a second I thought you're serious.

>>8977843
Pray that there was a GC release

>>8985194
Why?

>>8985241
Because xemu doesn't exist!
Well okay, to be fair, Gamecube emulation is a better on compatibility, and has lower system requirements, but that's hardly a "pray" situation.

>>8985291
*a little better

>>8977843
Never ever, only us bros who actually bought one get to play these games. Cope.

>>8977843
I can play Genma Onimusha perfectly so I'm not complaining.

Okay so what you do is, you install Xenia and run OG xbox games through emulation. Here's hoping Don Mattrick sees this post and hires me.

>>8980369
>fb marketplace
I, too, enjoy paying for broken shit.

>>8982982
Same thing happens with Saturn emulation. It's pretty damn good now, but everyone is stuck in some tard void.

>>8983767
They mean "there is no working emulator for my 2015 laptop" which is true.

>>8984357
Hmm. Last I saw you had to run something like EvolutionX for Xemu to work. Perhaps this is no longer the case, or I was always under the wrong impression. Welp, did it anyway.

>>8987178
Runs fine on my 4core i5 ThinkPad from around 2015.

>>8987256
You can for fun install a full dashboard but it's not needed, just need the boot rom and BIOS and a empty hard drive image.

You can get everything you need from here for example:
https://archive.org/details/xemustarter

Just update the Xemu program itself by downloading it from Xemu website.
https://xemu.app/

There's also really good documentation if you want to do it yourself from zero:
https://xemu.app/docs/required-files/

And the emulator wikis all have the files available too:
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Emulator_files#Xbox

>>8987320
This is a lie.

>>8987340
I didn't say which games, did I? :^)
Plenty of simpler games run perfectly fine.

I would really enjoy to use Xemu to play Ninja Gaiden Black but there's this door in level 15 that crashes any time I try to open it. Guess I'll have to sink in the cash for an Xbox at some point

>>8987178
>They mean "there is no working emulator for my 2015 laptop" which is true.

Not true, I could run 2015-era macos on Virtualbox just fine a few years back, recently upgraded those all the way up to Catalina. I kind of have to do that to test various issues on our web app.

>>8987368
You sure it isn't fixed? It's not under the issues anymore.
https://xemu.app/titles/5443000d/#Ninja-Gaiden-Black

>>8987367
I'm going to brick in your fucking mouth.

>>8987379
>Not true, I could run 2015-era macos on Virtualbox just fine a few years back
And what in the 10 levels of go fuck yourself does that have to do with Xemu, you retarded faggot?

>>8987404
Yeah, I'm not sure what it is. I guess my computer isn't powerful enough? I followed all the directions properly, I'm using the most recent version of Xemu, and the most recent Vimm's Lair xiso. I've asked in multiple places and it seems like nobody can even figure out what the cause of the problem is.

This isn't too bad.Getting the isos to work is a pain in the ass tho.

>>8987506
Why? Don't you have Extract-XISO? You can literally convert normal RIPs to XISO format in seconds.

>>8987525
I believe it was a problem with the redump iso. I think they removed the padding or something and emulator didn't like it. I had to rebuild the xiso myself with some command line tool.
Got a link for that gui in your screenshot?

>>8987557
XISOs don't care about padding, one of the benefits is that you can just convert even folder dumps to XISO format and they don't waste space with padding. Plus you can modify the game files, mods, etc.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Extract-XISO
I'm sure you'll figure out the rest.

>>8987327
Thanks kind anon. I'll put you last in my kill list.

>>8987496
Do you have another machine, notebook to try it on?
If Xemu has savestates, you might want to ask anons to just open that door for you and make a savestate right after that.
Also, you might want to report it to the devs.

>>8987707
>Do you have another machine?
No, unfortunately
>If Xemu has savestates, you might want to ask anons to just open the door for you and make a savestate right after that
That could work, but in theory that would require them to have the same/ similar weapon upgrades, Scarabs, cash, Ninpo and ammo, and the problem is quite literally at the end of the second to last level in the game. Seems kinda unrealistic to me
>You might want to report it to the devs
That requires a shitcord account to do. They literally lock away the ability to make a report unless you're in their server. Fuck that

no suprise /vr/ is full of retards. Heres how to hack your og xbox
>buy a pre 1.6 model from a thrift store for 30 bucks (1.6 has bad video output and cant do 480p without some trickery). Just make sure to pull the clock capacitor off
>softmod with splinter cell and rockys soft mod tool
>make sure to rewrite your eeprom to null values
Now its time to hard mod
>solder 2 points on your mother board to flash the tsop
>download the latest ogxbox disc and burn it
>hook up a new hardrive with a sata adapter
>run the ogxbox disc and flash your tsop, install whatever dash you want (for me its xbmc for gamers)
> format your harddrive
Now you have a modded xbox and can easily ftp games to it
>download redump isos
>extract them with extract-xiso command line utilty
>ftp extracted files to your xbox
>xbmc for gamers downloads all cover art for you
its harder than hacking a wii or ps2 but its still piss easy

>>8987735
>at could work, but in theory that would require them to have the same/ similar weapon upgrades...
Dude. Just send them your savestate. And then grab theirs.

>>8987743
Oh shit you're right

>>8987748
I want to point out though, the "snapshots" as they're called, are directly saved to your HDI. I'm sure it's not a big deal but it's important to note

>>8987737
>1.6 has bad video output and cant do 480p without some trickery
1.6 the only model that can output RGB correctly and every single broken game has a 480p patch online, not to mention its the only model uneffected by the capacitor epidemic

>>8977843
What are some must-haves for this console, anyway?

>>8987776
>rgb correctly
not a big deal when you can use component cables. You also cant flash the tsop on a 1.6 so you'll need to rebuild the lpc and install a mod chip. Pre 1.6 is much simpler

>>8987802
Why would you use component?

>>8987802
>You also cant flash the tsop on a 1.6 so you'll need to rebuild the lpc and install a mod chip. Pre 1.6 is much simpler
I literally did the hard drive softmod on my 1.6.

>>8987735
>They literally lock away the ability to make a report unless you're in their server.
That's the retard filter, I'm assuming. They have an issue tracker on github, just try not to sound like an idiot when you file an issue, most projects will just close your report if you're like "Tis game si bugd becuz xemu is shit, it gaev me a errer that im not gunna copy, fix yuor shitty emulaotr yu corksuckers"

>>8987784
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Beyond Good & Evil
Breakdown
Burnout 3 Takedown
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
Chronicle of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
Fable
Forza Motorsport
Halo
Halo 2
Jade Empire
Mech Assault
Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction
Metal Wolf Chaos
Ninja Gaiden
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath
Otogi 2: Imorial Warriors
Panzar Dragoon Orta
Phantom Dust
Project Gotham Racing 2
Psychonauts
Rent-A-Hero No. 1
Steel Battalion
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory

>>8987973
>no gauntlet DL
>no timesplitters
come on

>>8987978
>no gauntlet DL

The PS2 version is better.

>>8987973
Kind of funny how many of those games are better on PC. I loved my xbox at the time, but it's one of the consoles I feel the least need to return to.

>>8987916
For the HD modes.

>>8987994
It's even worse for later xbox consoles. There are almost no xbox One exclusives worth playing. Everything is either multi-plat or also on PC.

>>8988001
I believe, that's why the scene doesn't bother jailbraking it. And, well, Micros themselves do not quite push for exclusives for One.
I'm pretty sure this' the last XBox gen we will see.

>>8988016
>I'm pretty sure this' the last XBox gen we will see.

I doubt it, they just bought Bethesda, Id, Obsidian and Activision-Blizzard. So now they own Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Starfield, Doom, Wolfenstien, World of Warcraft, Diablo etc. All of these new big games will be day one for the Game Pass. They want to create a netflix for games.

>>8987984
no it isnt you fucking retard. PS2 version is massively gimped and doesnt even have an item inventory for keeping things you pick up.

>>8987973
Too many multiplats, many of those are better on PS2 or PC.

>>8988032
Good point, but at the same time Netflix doesn't sell their own hardware. You just subscribe to them via PC.
I guess, we will rather see a fourth entry to the Steam/GOG/Epic Store line, no?

>>8988001
>>8988016
>>8988032
Xbox is a normie gaming PC, what about it? It doesn't need exclusives to have a place.

>>8988032
>>8988052
Game Pass works on PC too though, so it's more like a dedicated Netflix device plus a service for it and PCs

>>8987919
im not talking about softmods im talking about hard mods

>>8988051
>better on ps2
no way

>>8977843
It's gotten better, but you need a good PC to run it. I really want to play Gunvalkyrie but I don't have money to upgrade atm. It's not Dolphin level yet, its got a bit more to go to get to that level but around 2020/2021 Xemu started to really pick up in terms of performance. I'm convined the first posters haven't really followed it that well since 2019 and are just repeating what they remember years ago when it was actually shit.

>>8988079
Makes no difference if all you do is play RIPs anyways.

>>8988083
Eh, pretty sure Dark Alliance had better graphics on the PS2, thanks to it not taking advantage of any of the Xbox'es shader harder.
Anyways, all the multiplats with PC ports still play better on PC.

It just werks

>>8977843
Awesome

>>8988113
makes a big difference if your hdd dies and you need to replace it

>>8988320
Nope. You can just write a backup image to a new HDD. But just use a microSD or SATA SSD with adapter in the first place, won't even fail, plus takes less power, is quieter, produces less heat and gives a small performance boost for load times.

>>8988324
>You can just write a backup image to a new HDD
what if you dont have a backup image? You'll have to clone the whole drive which sucks if its a terabyte or larger. with a hardmodded xbox all you need to do is pop a new hdd in there and use an installer disc.
also lmaoing at using a microsd card in your xbox, and sdd is overkill

>>8987973
You're missing Phantom Crash which I am glad to see is perfect on Xemu

>>8988398
>what if you dont have a backup image?
Then you're kinda dum

>You'll have to clone the whole drive which sucks if its a terabyte or larger.
There's no need for it to even be one TB, the library worth playing isn't even half that size

>also lmaoing at using a microsd card in your xbox, and sdd is overkill
microSD is still faster and more reliable than any hard drive for sucha job
How is SSD overkill? It's the most reliable solution with the best performance, are you another idiot who thinks that thruput is more important than IOPS and seek?

>>8988398
>what if you dont have a backup image?
Then you're kinda dum

>You'll have to clone the whole drive which sucks if its a terabyte or larger.
There's no need for it to even be one TB, the library worth playing isn't even half that size

>also lmaoing at using a microsd card in your xbox, and sdd is overkill
microSD is still faster and more reliable than any hard drive for such a job
How is SSD overkill? It's the most reliable solution with the best performance, are you another idiot who thinks that throughput is the only benefit of SSDs?

>>8988398
>also lmaoing at using a microsd card in your xbox, and sdd is overkill
even a microsd cuts down on loading times a lot, morrowind went from 40 seconds to 30 seconds and that's a bitch game that have a lot of loading screens
but I have to agree with reliability being the main benefit

>>8977843
Hmm, Texas maybe?

>>8977843
Its shit.
Xemu runs like dog turds most of the time.
Cxbxr gets updates and performance is better but you'll need your roms in xbe. Format which is hard to find

>>8988584
>Xemu runs like dog turds most of the time.
Xemu has better compatibility and runs better on the same hardware, it's a lot more mature project even though being newer and using virtualisation.

>Cxbxr gets updates and performance is better but you'll need your roms in xbe. Format which is hard to find
You realize that xbe is literally just the Xbox binary format and you can just extract a XBox ISO file to get a folder and the xbe will be inside it that you can launch? Literally ANY dump will work, folder, ISO, xiso, etc.

>>8988607
All I can find online are iso formatted roms. Literally no xbe roms anywhere.

I've only been able to find x2 converters and both were shit.

I've got a beefy pc and xemu and cxbr and xemu is utter crap in comparison. Just claiming something runs isnt the same as it actually running properly

>>8988646
>All I can find online are iso formatted roms.
Anon, get WinRAR and extract the ISO, there, it's the xbe you wanted.

>I've got a beefy pc and xemu and cxbr and xemu is utter crap in comparison. Just claiming something runs isnt the same as it actually running properly
I do too, 5800X and 2080 Super, Xemu has better accuracy and performance. Cxbr-Reloaded isn't there yet and is falling behind fast.

>>8985185
but ... I am serious. I've already spent a large chunk of my savings on the few instruments and still don't have enough to get started, nevermind getting the technical knowledge and techniques. People have said my shaky hands is not an issue to do so, but rarely do they ever mention the high cost.

>>8989293
its not often i see a legit tard here

>>8989331
Nah, I'm sure they are just LARPing.

>>8989331
Admittedly, I'm not bright, otherwise my employment options can allow me to afford to have hobbies/skills to solder.

>>8990707
I mean, dude... You just stick hot iron into the metals for a few seconds - and bam, you've done it.

>>8990724
Well, once I get the vent fan, helping hands, mats, wick, and solder, I will give removing the clock capacitor a try. I don't think they sell the singular capacitor either, and I only have 2 original Xboxes, so I will still be stuck with a bunch of unneeded ones further wasting money.

>>8990724
He's baiting, nobody needs anything but a cheap iron to remove a clock capacitor. Heck you don't even need to desolder it, just twist it off and cut off the remaining leads, then use network time for the Xbox.

>>8990756
Man, this is all you need to get it done. Plus couple screwdrivers to pull the console apart.

I want to say that this guy is just baiting but I know there legit is people like that out there. I'm still calling bullshit on this (You) hungry whore.
Pic related is like 40ish bucks with a power brick, is actually pretty decent and gets the job done. Some solder and wick is probably around 10. Open a window/solder under a kitchen hood/use that fan you have around somewhere. It literally does not matter. You're not doing it for 8 hrs 5 days a week. If you need to literally just remove one cap you could do it even without an iron. Solder fumes won't kill you and the iron is literally just a piece of hot iron. Even proper temp control is very fancypants stuff for beginners.

Can Xemu run Virtua Cop 3 and is can you make it work with Demulshooter?

CxBX unfortunately has graphical glitches in the second stage which makes the game hard to run through.

>>8977843
Considering the state it was in few years ago it's making a huge progress

>>8990756
nigga all you need to do is get some pliers and pull the clock capacitor off

>>8990785
Check the compatibility database. Has been posted here several times.

>>8990756
Just watch this and you're good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIT4ra6Mo0s

>>8987169
About how broken did you manage to find them? Not the anon but the worst Xboxes I'd find on there either had stuck drives or bad caps. The worst I had to deal with came from some gypsy, and had EEPROM corruption. Thankfully I had a scrap board of same revision + its original HDD so I could get it modded up in about two and a half hours tops.

>>8987973
>no Ford Racing 2 and 3
>no GTA San Andreas
>no Oddworld Munch's Oddysee

low quality bait

Its really bad
Most games run in slow motion and a hand full of games run normal.
I also had to do this werid thing in command prompt to make the roms work.

>>8990781
Im not sure how people solder. I buy a new gun it works well. Then it just always stops burning the solder. I clean the tips.
I go to use the solder gun again and it just doesnt burn the solder instantly like it used to.

>>8977843
redundant as there are no games worth emulating

>>8984106
And it will almost assuredly have a leaky capacitor that leaks onto the motherboard and which is beyond the ability of most people to fix. The original Xbox has some truly terrible design flaws that make it very hard to find a system in working condition these days without having someone restore and mod it for you.

>>8990756
Bro I'm more concerned about that stillborn fetus of a fucking keyboard what in the god damn

>>8990881
>Ford Racing 2 and 3
how did they fare against segagt2022 and pgr2?

Seriously, is there even one Xbox game worth emulating? What are some non-shovelware Xbox exclusives that weren't ultimately released on PC?

>>8994690
Red Dead Revolver is cool, even if Redemption 1 & 2 are superior.

>>8977843
Even if emulation was perfection the OG Xbox needs to be saved from its own shit clock capacitor
By now they've all burst and in a few years unserviced boards will be unusable.
Save as many of them as you can anons

>>8978182
Pretty much only ninja gaiden black can be considered a replacement since iirc tecmo give Microsoft the source code to work with

>>8990881
>San Andreas
Looks better with the PS2 effects

>>8990773
I realize I also left out getting flux which everyone says is paramount to this kind of work. I also have to find a good multimeter, and learn what that does along with understanding electricity. The journey is not easy for my limited capacity old brain.

>>8990790
How do I recognize the leak? Isn't there some method to clean it if it has leaked, like something involving baking soda or some base like milk to counteract acidity or something?

>>8990801
That video is forever saved onto my watch later, and I always fall asleep trying to watch it. Eyes would just glaze over with that old timey cadence in talking. I understand it is necessary to get the basics of starting, but it is really difficult to go through.

>>8993551
It has hotswappable switches which allow me to test them out without the difficulty of soldering. I was hopping to learn how to desolder the switches off the Corsair one on top and replace them with new switches. Since no one in my state has such capabilities to do console repairs/mods and thought it would be a good practice item because everyone says to practice soldering first.

>>8988646
>Literally no xbe roms anywhere
Imao search "hd ready Xbox romset archive.org"

You can't really emulate a Pentium 3 PC easily.

>>8995641
Based shitposting anon

>>8996292
Kek, even ARM chips these days emulate machines far more powerful than P3

idk why but whenever im trying to emulate a xbox original or xbox 360 game it goes 5 fps

>>8996327
Obviously first thought is that your machine's processing power is equal to that of a smartphone. XBox emulation kinda takes some at this point.

>>8980236
>DO NOT DOWNLOAD FROM THE ISO COLLECTION ON ARCHIVE.ORG, THEY DO NOT WORK
Blame the idiots that uploaded in standard ISO vs. XISO. In fact, most posts here complaining about difficulty are probably made by a similar tribe of idiots.
You do not need to know how to solder for any xbox softmod, implying you're using a working xbox without broken components. I weep for /vr/.