/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8983413
Play on hard difficulty from the get go

>>8983413
Wonder how the Originals compare to this

>>8983542
There are comparison videos on YouTube.
For me, I don't really care. I'm content with playing them the way they originally came out.

>>8983465

>>8984032
Please tell me you played them on a crt

>>8983413
Probably stating the obvious but prioritize the blades when upgrading weapons

You can attack nuisance enemies like harpies from a distance with the blades then immediately transition into a grapple to insta-kill them.

You also can't be hurt during the grappling animation so this is a good way to get a moment of respite when surrounded

The hold triangle launcher attack + the L1 spinning attack in midair is a good way to rack up quick combos for extra red orbs. Also judicious use of L2 Poseidon's rage when lots of enemies are onscreen can get you a couple hundred hit combo

>>8984343
>Probably stating the obvious but prioritize the blades when upgrading weapons
Not obvious to me, so thanks.

>>8983413
Play something Japanese?

>>8983542
More stable 60fps on PS3 that's all.

>>8984436
It's not absolutely necessary, people on youtube have done no-upgrade runs on the hardest difficulties so in theory you could upgrade whatever you want and it would work. But for a normal run without being an expert you would probably regret maxing out the gorgon head or the thunderbolt and being stuck on hard boss fights with low-level blades. You have limited use of magic, the blades never run out.

Also, if you're really new to the series keep in mind that there's a lot of hidden shit everywhere. Don't just plow through levels without looking around for hidden chests, you want those health and magic upgrades.

>>8984440
Lots of Japanese games on my queue, don't worry.

>>8984458
>Also, if you're really new to the series keep in mind that there's a lot of hidden shit everywhere. Don't just plow through levels without looking around
Played through the entire Metroid series, so don't worry.

>>8983413
GoW1 has way too much platforming puzzle bullshit compared to the other games, so be prepared for it.

>>8984440
Imagine the smell

>>8984518
huh?

Can't remember if it's in 2, but 1 has a movement trick where you roll and do a shoulder charge to keep speed, which is nice because the regular movement speed is pretty slow.

Also you should play the psp games, they're absolutely on par with the rest of the series and were some of the most impressive handheld games ever at the time. The ps3 ports add analog stick rolling, but emulating the originals isn't bad either

>>8984516
This part is turbo aids. You've been warned OP.

>>8984516
IIRC GOW2 had that shitty tightrope section where you're in the ceiling rafters for a huge area with blades swinging on them. I binged both games and that was the first time it asked me to the difficulty. Such BS

>>8986026
I love them but each game has at least 1 part like this that will make you want to quit

>>8983413
For 1 take advantage of the fact that you can knock enemies into pits.
For 2 prioritize the chains and don't bother with the other weapons, they're trash.
For both you should abuse parrying, especially in 2.

>>8986107
There's parrying?

Just play Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden Black instead

>>8986210
I may consider DMC 1 and 3, and NGB.

>>8986207
Yeah it ain't Tekken or nun it's just a well-timed block.

>>8983413
I wanted to play the first GoW but for some reason it runs like liquid ass on PCSX2, is it a me problem? My computer's a toaster but I've never had this problem before.

>>8986107
>don't bother with the other weapons, they're trash

the barbarian hammer is awesome once you get the timing down

>>8986210
Don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but DMC1 feels really dated compared to GoW even though it's not that much older.

>>8986350
not sure about GOW, pcsx2 requires at least a core2duo clocked at 3.2ghz for me to be able to play ff12 + Pop sands of time at 100% speed,thats with 4gb ddr2 + nvidia 7900gtx under dx9.

what r ur pc specs?

>>8986350
I have a gaming laptop and all games play slowly or drop frames when it's not plugged into power. Maybe it's the same for you?

>>8983413
please make sure to prioritize your health as the game approaches the end
don't get softlocked like i did
have fun bro

>>8983413
>>8983465
don't listen to this guy, op, play on normal on your first playthrough so you'll enjoy the series first entry and you don't drop it, there's a part near the end that's bullshit on harder difficulties. You can attempt harder difficulty on your next playthroughs if you want.

>>8986210
or he can just play all of them

>>8986725
People who say stuff like that usually have an inferiority complex for their game.

>>8986210
he can play all of them:)

My only memory of GoW1 was unlocking that cut content gallery and like half of it was just scrapped cyclops designs with commentary from the artist complaining about how hard it was to make a good cyclops design

the one they went with still kind of sucked lol

Green meter is health, blue is magic. What is the red one?

>>8987152
teh moneyz, essentially

>>8986210
all 3 of those are completely different

Playing it right now. Reached the shadow zombies in the Rooftops of Athens. It's pretty great!

Got 3 levels of blades now.
Should I upgrade Poseidon's Rage at all?

I had a glitch happen in God of War 1 I could never replicate. I killed a harpy climbing outside Pandora's temple and it died perfectly on/off a ledge and kept giving me infinite red orbs. I died later right before a save and never could replicate it.

>>8986854
It’s entertainment media, dude. Get a grip.

>>8987681
The one who needs a grip is the guy trying to shove their off-topic games into another game's thread.

Got to the temple of the oracle and felt that the Harpies were just gonna keep coming infinitely.
Googled it and I was right, and it was actually some bullshit puzzle.

>>8986367
Only on normal, on anything higher it's useless because it's too slow and takes away your dodge.

Bump

What fills up the rage of the gods meter? Is it just purely battle?

>>8989376
That and the occasional orbs from enemies and chests (though I forget if they're in every game).

>>8986026
I eventually got past that part, but the final battle I had to gameshark

How does God of War 4 compare to the first 3?

The Cerberus arena was some fucking bullshit.
It was easy with the rage of the gods, but I wanted to do it without that. Took a few tries.

>>8989495
I almost broke my TV on that part. But holy fucking shit the rush was intense when I finally did it.

>>8990015
Very different game. It is more of an RPG compared to the hack and slash of the original.

>>8987683
Yeah, that's who I was directly criticizing, whether that was actually him I replied to or not.

>>8990453
Whatever that part is, I'll use save states.

>>8990457
Is it fun?

Never seen a game so stingy with EXP (red orbs).
But it makes it so worth it to get the upgrades.

>>8991906
Pussy

>>8986026
The only bad part is that it can possibly clip you out of bounds. I think they were on a tight time line so they couldn't resolve those glitches.

>>8991958
Look at the making of video they made for the game. It's Cory Balrog constantly directing actors for cinematics and never playing the fucking game.So no it's not fun.

>>8992672
I've got a lot of other games on my queue, buddy.

>>8992679
That's what I hate about modern ("triple A") games. They're so busy focusing on things that are tangential to the game, they forget to put the fun in.
Story, cinematography, realism, acting... the things you might look for in a movie, not a game.

There's like a thousand articles and YT videos praising the realism of shrinking horse balls in the cold in RDR2. There are videos comparing Ghost of Tsushima and Horizon Forbidden West in terms of realism of the weather effects. I've seen people praise God of War 4 because Atreus is annoying as fuck, "how a kid should be".
How do any of these things contribute to the GAMEplay in a video GAME? I wouldn't wanna be annoyed by a kid IRL, why would I suddenly want it in a game?

The future sucks.

>>8992761
I mean I liked Tsushima, but then I actually like the Asscreed formula when I'm not being given it 5 times a year every year

>>8992674
oh fuck I'd forgotten how it was glitchy and you would just die randomly as a result
fucking hell

Blades of Artemis at level 1. Should I upgrade, or should I save up for Army of Hades level 3?
(Blades of Chaos and Poseidon's Rage maxed out)

>>8983542
It's a pretty good remaster compared to most as far as I know. Holds a steady 60fps, which the ps2 couldn't. The main issue to me is that it's cropped 16:9. In gameplay and FMVs you lose a bit from top and bottom. This was also how it worked on the original ps2 versions, so you could say it's accurate, but there you at least had a choice in the options iirc.

The Gravedigger's voice sounds like Grandpa Max (Tennyson)

Well that was fucking dope.
Added to my "must play" list. (along with 2 and 3, even though I didn't play them; I just know they'll be good)

>>8993012
I only upgraded army of hades once.
Blade of Artemis is just so fucking fun to use I did the final 10k orb upgrade even though it was not necessary to beat the game. I love OP melee weapons.

>>8994491
>I love OP
Gay

>>8986026
>Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.

If escaping from Hades was easy everyone would do it

>>8987959
I just played through the game on hard and got tons of mileage out of it. Even on hard the heavy attack two-shots skeletons which is especially useful in that circular room with he spiked ceiling where the bastards keep stopping you from moving the platform. Also it takes the piss out of those armored guys with maces because the heavy attack interrupts their attacks so you can just triangle them to death.

Yeah, you have to be much more careful with it because it limits your mobility but you can still parry with it so you're not a sitting duck and in the right circumstances it's extremely effective. I was still using it all the way through the loom chamber gauntlet.

>>8994491
one of my favorite memories from GoW2 was when I got the orbs to do the final upgrade on the barbarian hammer, and right after that I reached the fight against that one spartan, and I killed him in like 30 seconds cause the hammer is so strong at lv3

>>8993012
Army of Hades really, really helps against the clones , the blade is just a fun alternative weapon. Generally I'd go with Hades lv. 3 but if you've been kicking everything's ass and you feel confident then you can always just prioritize whatever you enjoy using most >>8994491

I'm assuming you're not on God mode. Lv. 3 Hades is practically mandatory on God mode. God mode kind of sucks to be honest. Made me hate the game for a while but I did finish it out of principle

>>8995503
I tried Hades in that fight and it didn't work for me, so I went with Poseidon and that made it a breeze. Didn't even need to heal the family.

Gonna start GoW2 now. Any tips for that?

>>8995582
Well yeah on normal or maybe even hard you have some flexibility, on God mode you need hades because it'll keep them off you while healing the family which you will 100% have to do multiple times.

I guess I just have such PTSD from God mode I always default to the best strategies on harder difficulties. I enjoyed the challenge of the harder modes up to a point but I definitely had the most fun with my first playthrough

>>8995587
It's very much more of the same, so a lot of the same principles apply. Level up the blades first, look carefully for hidden areas, square square triangle is your friend, etc. A few significant differences, though:

>you can parry (including projectiles) and counterattack, which becomes an absolutely essential mechanic
>in addition to the usual chests there are a couple of very well hidden grecian urns which unlock insane powers but only after you beat the game once so try to find them on your first playthrough
>there are a few choke points where it can be really difficult if you go into it drained of your magic and / or rage meter, be careful not to waste them on less difficult enemies
>there's a part where you have to pull a lever to lower a gate and then run back to a steam vent that will boost you over the rising gate. You will probably fail at this several times because you have very little margin for error, even when you do it it will look like you're not going to make it you just have to be fast
>kill the cerberus babies IMMEDIATELY, they grow into big ones if you don't
>ymmv with the barbarian hammer but I think it fucking rocks. On normal difficulty it's a goddamn murder machine

>>8983542
The EU version is cut in brutality the us version is uncut. Don't know about other versions.

>>8983542
It runs better but the games are completely cropped from 4:3 to fit a 16:9 aspect ratio. Some sections are actually harder now because you see far less than what you're supposed to, it really sucks unless you've played them to death and know what to expect. Also I fucking hate playing games with the Sixaxis/Dualshock 3, I really need to look into a suitable replacement that can still use the home button.

>>8995779
Wasn't the game's FOV some weird in-between instead of just cropping 4:3 to 16:9? I think I saw some comparisons that looked like it's a bit cropped, but a bit wider at the same time.

I should I disable the hints messages in GoW2?

In the Colossus fight, the R1 prompt is not showing up. I'm standing right in front of it and nothing pops up. I keep mashing R1 with nothing happening.

>>8995969
Nevermind. Literally figured it out 2 seconds after posting this. Just destroyed the chain around it.

Holy shit GoW 2 is a monumental improvement on GoW.
Now stuff like climbing walls and moving on ropes is so much better since now you can quickly move on them.
Rage of the Titans can be filled with its own orbs, and you can stop it.
The move with the blades that makes you swing instantly over chasms is fucking awesome.
The flying section is also cool and I like the finishers (I saw the extras in GoW where they said they really wanted to put a flying section but couldn't), though I hate how the up and down are inverted, which some menus also have in both games, as well as climbing ceilings (though this one is still a cool feature).

I only reached the Temple of Lahkesis, but I can tell that overall it's a better game. Jaffe is an idiot for what he said about Metroid Dread, but in GoW he's a genius.

Which to prioritize, Cronos' Rage or Athena's Blades?

>>8995971
lol that happened to me the first time too. If you're already planning your next move sometimes you end up looking right past something obvious

don't be hasty, anon

>>8996571
Always blades first. When you run low on magic the blades are what you'll have to rely on. Also, whereas Poseidon's rage really didn't crank out huge combos unless you were at level 2 Cronos' rage is good for huge combos even at level 1.

Unlike GOW 1 it's really difficult to accrue enough orbs at the end of the game to max out everything. I finished the game with Lv. 3 atlas rage, the gorgon head cronos' rage and the spear at level at lv.2 (the stronger freeze beam is really useful IMO, the spear was just for variety) and the hammer at level 3. I could have upgraded Typhon's bane to level 2 I guess since it's cheap but I never really found it to be necessary

Third of the way into GoW 2. Loving it.

>>8996714
Btw, I don't really get Cronos' Rage. I used it in a battle against an Orc, but nothing happened to it. It's different from Poseidon's Rage?

Bump

>>8997390
and dump.
I always wondered how many bastard children of Kratos there might have been. He fucked many women

>>8983413
Don't play on the harder difficulties. These games are not meant to be played like that and were clearly not tested. This is a cinematic experience franchise and is probably best played on easy. Otherwise Kratos feels like a weak bitch unable to hurt anything in the game.

Don't use anything other than the default weapon. It's the only good weapon in every game. All the other weapons are pure downgrades and only some allow you to do fun speedrun skips.

For combat you MUST whiff two light attacks, it is MANDATORY that you miss them, then land the final heavy attack. If you do anything else, the enemies break out of it and hit you because nothing you do is a real combo and you're usually punished for trying anything but. Remember, whiff 2 lights then land a heavy. Square, square, triangle.

In 1 it's mandatory to level up the madusa move because otherwise the Cerberus spawners are actually impossible.

It's a shit franchise that should have ended at two. 3 is the worst so you should also just stop at 2.

>>8983465
Definitely don't do that.

>>8997662
Sure, for a first playthrough one probably shouldn't play on harder difficulties, but everything else you said is wrong.

>These games are not meant to be played like that and were clearly not tested
"I am bitch-made"
>This is a cinematic experience franchise
4? Sure. All the others? No. These are actually games.
>All the other weapons are pure downgrades
"I don't know how to use weapons"
>For combat you MUST whiff two light attacks, it is MANDATORY that you miss them, then land the final heavy attack
You can do light combos.
>In 1 it's mandatory to level up the madusa move because otherwise the Cerberus spawners are actually impossible.
See above, 2 points ago.
>It's a shit franchise that should have ended at two. 3 is the worst so you should also just stop at 2.
See above, second point. Your post boils down to not knowing how to play the game, and blaming it on the game. It's a franchise that did gameplay well (pre 4) and that's why you hate 3.

>>8996801
Cronos' Rage doesn't have a very long range at first so if an enemy's far enough away nothing will happen. But if they're close enough when you use it it will shock them repeatedly and the good news is the spell lasts longer than the casting animation so you can cast it and then attack or dodge while it's still going, or cast it two or three times in rapid succession. If you use it multiple times while more than one enemy is in range you can rack up 100 hit combos very easily

>>8997662
>>8997697
I find 90% of the games are fun on higher difficulties, but there are a few points where it gets cheesy as fuck. The clones and Ares on God mode can be pure fucking bullshit, but at least that's the end of the game.

2 has that fucking Theseus fight which starts out a fair head-to-head fight, but then has him climb up to an inaccessible location where all you can do is pelt him with projectiles and you need to drain your entire magic meter multiple times and the only way to get more magic is by killing minoutaurs while he attacks you with insta-kill ice spikes and if you die you have to go back to the beginning and do it all over gain. FUCK the Theseus fight.

And then there's the Zeus fights which are insanely lopsided because he's a damage sponge and you die in a couple hits and every fights has like ten separate stages to it and each one requires you to be basically perfect for long stretches at a time....

I did God on 1 and Titan on 2 then just payed through hard on 3 and decided that was enough. Given how the Zeus fight went on hard pretty sure I would have broke a controller at some point if I even tried Chaos.

but as for

>All the other weapons are pure downgrades

So, so, so wrong. Nothing's *better* than the blades but they're all potentially useful if you don't suck and level them up

>>8997956
Idk about higher difficulties, but on normal (OP here), the Theseus fight was super easy. Long, sure, but not hard. Never got hit by the spikes. When he shoots, I dodge and shoot. I had to hold my controller a bit weird to do that, but it worked. Minotaurs were easy, all I had to do was hit with lights, then finish them off with circle to get the magic.

>>8997970
Yeah even on hard mode it's not that bad but Titan mode is just a bitch. You take so much damage from everything that those occasional hits which were survivable before become killers and that extra time you have to spend on each minotaur increases your chances of getting spiked exponentially. I went into it thinking it was going to be pretty doable and I got my ass handed to me multiple times instead

Of course the real bugger of Titan mode is the part where you have to protect the translator. No matter how good you are at keeping yourself alive that little shit dies so easily. That part is downright cruel. I had to watch youtube videos of some madlad from south america doing it with no upgrades just to convince myself I could do it. God damn that was hard.

The interact button was R2 in GoW. Why was that changed in GoW 2? Is it gonna be used for something else?

>>8998567
Nevermind, just found out lol
Hammer time

Idk, feels like it leaves me vulnerable against these weak enemies.

a little protip for the hammer which makes it safer to use, while you can't dodge roll while holding it, you can cancel out whatever you're currently doing by bringing out the bow for a moment, quickly switch to blades and then dodge

>>8999269
That's a very nice tip, thanks.

Watching a video of chest locations in GoW 2 (looking only at places I've sipped), and raging tf out

skipped* >>8999298

To explain >>8999298
There were two chests sitting on top of an unreachable ledge. I couldn't find a way to get up there, but the wall behind them look like a climbable wall. "Okay, maybe I'll have to reach it from some place else".
I leave, gate closes behind me, I save, I see the video. I actually had to shoot the wall to break it, revealing a swinging point I could use to reach up there.