/vr/ - Retro Games

What's with the CRT filter on this?
Pac and Pal? More like Pac and SHIT!
Get another achievement? HERES ANOTHER CABINET SO YOU CAN HAVE NOTHING BUT 20 PAC MAN CABS IN YOUR MUSEUM SO YOU CAN PAC WHILE YOU PAC INSIDE YOUR PAC

https://youtu.be/pRTgKQDWJxU

this is the greatest game ever conceived.

>>8966401
I put 7 pac-man cabs up when i realized it would be funny to do that

Did you guys ever go to any of the Namco arcades? We’re those a thing? I remember going to a few arcades growing up, and I used to have some old Pac-Man game tokens. It’s been so long I can’t really remember it though. I feel like it had black carpet with colorful shapes on it, with blue lighting inside.

>>8966401
/v/ has started bleeding into /vr/ and it's showing. It won't be long before this place is uninhabitable. Sucks, 4chan has fewer and fewer boards worth visiting and this was one of the last ones.
>>8966369
I grew up playing a pirated disk of Pac Mania on the Amiga 500. It was kind of janky, but I have good memories of it.

>>8966412
>has started
is this your first day here faggot?

>>8966410
the arcade at one of my local malls was a namco branded one and it was awesome

The only good pac games are Pac-Land and World 2

why do the ghosts in super do that spaz thing

>>8966425
They’re gay

>>8966416
Been here since they introduced the board. There's been plenty of retarded shit that's come from /v/ in waves where the quality has gotten worse. I can definitely say /vr/ a couple years ago was much better than it is now. Lots of technical discussion was commonplace and things were civil. Not so much anymore.

>>8966430
Dude there's plenty of retarded shit in the catalog at any given time, it's been that way for a few years now and you've chosen to complain about it in this thread?
Just hide the waifu and muh heckin soulful threads and /vr/ is almost browsable without feeling like you're experiencing a brain haemorrhage.

>>8966534
oi what's wrong with the waifu threads
we barely even have those
at least relative to /v/
and it's civil in them
at least until some larper bitches about tits being lolicon to rile the thread up

the last levels of Pac-in-Time are fucking brutal.

>>8966369
I liked Pac in Time for the Game Boy.

>>8966369
Pac man is pure genius. Lightning in. A bottle.
There is only one Pac man game. Forget the "franchise". It's always 1980 and you are in the arcade, playing Pac man. Nothing else.

>>8966369
best port of pacman with the absolute most amount of soul? you ask? huh?!
why its on the bally astrocade

>>8967203
No one asked dipshit

>>8966369
gladly they put that retro collection on gamepass, paying for that "inputs" and I would have been mad. I hope they realease only physical but for 20€ here in Italy.

Is this accurate?

>>8967956
>>8967956
wrong.

the following game must be posted above masterpiece-tier

This is the only game in the museum i give a fuck about.

>>8966369
That's not his nose, that's his dick. He was taunting us with his erection to impress Ms. Pac-Man and now Pac-Marie but not retro.

the game gear Ms. Pacman is my most played game on the system. My father never told me this but his friends say that he was extremely addicted to pacman back when it was new. The only games I guess he ever played were pacman and bassmaster for snes.
must have sucked back in the day to only be able to play a game by going to some store or arcade..

>>8967964
what the actual fuck

make way, chad-tier artwork coming through!

>>8968131

>>8968153
>>8968131
1-800-BASED-DEPT

>>8966401
Ey fuck you I love Pac and Pal

>>8967956
world 3 is not that bad

>>8967956
256 is actually fun
99 is fun too
Pac-Man Plus is retarded but it's still built on the solid foundation of the original

>>8968365
Plus is Pac-Man: Random Bullshit Edition

>>8966539
It's changed, but so have we and so has 4chan, it is now 4channel.org for instance. There are banner ads. Do I wish it was more like how I remember? Sure do, but it's not.

for me it's pac man world

>>8967956
99 is great tier you homo. You know there's offline modes, right?

>>8967956
SNES Pac-in-Time is good

I was going to ask "why does Pac-Man eat keys" but now I think the more important question is why has nobody ever asked this

>>8966369
I found this frustrating as hell as a kid, worth a replay?

>>8967956
CE NES demake is peak pacman

Anyone have the collection? I’m curious
>how do the games emulate
>is it worth it?
There’s a lot of Pac-Man games on there I’ve never played outside the original and DX. Kinda weird they didn’t include any Ms. Pac-Man games on there, but oh well.

>>8969783
Ms. Pac-Man is currently in legal hell.

>>8969783
it's alright, some games like Pac-Attack and Pac-in-Time have audio issues (and PiT brightness was amped to gba-tier) and I heard there's input lag in some console versions (i play it on switch and so far i haven't noticed anythint in that regard), lack of Ms.Pac-Man and Jr.Pac-Man does suck indeed.
The custom arcade thing is cute but I don't know if I'll spend too much time on it, and I wish there was more music choices for the Arcade (wish I could use Palace Theme from Pac-in-Time).

>>8969804
Of course.
Care to give a quick rundown if a qrd is possible?

>>8969809
Glad to hear the switch version doesn’t suffer from input lag. Might go ahead and grab a copy then. It really seems like one of the better compilations outside of the missing titles, but if what >>8969804 says is true, I can forgive that.

Hell, I’ve recently played through all the other big classics (ie:Mario, Sonic, Mega Man) so it’ll be nice to have an excuse to finally play through a couple Pac-Man games as the only experience I have with it (outside of DX) was when I was a kiddo and some bar in Wisconsin had an arcade cabinet of the og Pac-Man in free play mode. It’s a weirdly fond memory of mine.

>>8968259
>>8968153
>>8968131
oldfags? post-rule change?
i thought we lost you all in the flood ;_;

>>8969929
anon if they want to post about xbox and ps2 just let them, don't bump the threads you dont like

>>8966369
Why do they not let you use continues in this collection? It makes no sense

>>8970020
probably for leaderboards sake and were too retarded to think about the idea that they could just disable leaderboards when you mess with dip switches

>>8970050
I really want to like this game but stupid things like that sour the experience. Is pac man collection on gba better or worse then this?

>>8970064
worse by a lot lol
it has some options but it also has screen crunch and no battery backup. And 10 less games.
Namco Museum series on PS1 is good
Museum+ is the best option for a few games, like Arrangement 96 in actual arcade resolution with no screen crunch, and Championship Edition being on PC at all

>>8970064
>>8970073
(incidentally, Arrangement is one of the only ones that lets you use continues by default)

>>8970073
Alright nevermind then. I am starting to enjoy the collection more now.
>>8970075
Thanks

>play pacman museum+
>try to make it to board 15 and get 76,500 points on OG pacman for the cheevo dopamine rush.
>3 hours later, still the same level 7-8, ~50,000pt games i've had since I was 9.
>Quit to arcade, come back later and try again only to find it saves your game from the beginning of the level
>Keep quitting and continuing until level 16, finish with 100k points
Gg ez.

>>8970145
Thanks for the tip

>Pac-Mania's theme

>>8971063
>Pac-Man Arrangement World 0 music

>>8971068
I just bought Museum+ and my favorite Pac game would probably be Arrangement. I personally think it's even better than the original. Great music, better animation and better level diversity it's just overall great.

So between this game, Namco Museum Arcade PAC, and the Namcot Collectiob

Which collection has the better games and the most replay value? It looks like Museum + definitely has the most work put into it, but I’m gonna be watching a house for a week and figure I’ll pick one of these up.

>>8972172
Really good games in Museum+:
>Pac-Man
>Pac & Pal (controversial)
>Pac-Mania
>Pac-Man Arrangement Arcade Ver.
>Pac-Man Championship Edition
>Pac-Man 256

Really good games in Namco Museum Arcade PAC:
>Pac-Man
>Galaga
>Dig-Dug
>Rolling Thunder
>Galaga '88
>Tank Force
>Pac-Man Championship Edition 2
Notable omission: Mappy. I disagree with the idea of buying a Namco Museum without Mappy.

Really good games in Namcot Collection:
>Battle City
>Dig Dug
>Dig Dug II
>Galaga
>Mappy (!!!)
>Pac-Man
>Pac-Mania
>Rolling Thunder
But also consider that these are inferior console versions

Choose based on the games. Personally I like Museum+ the most.

>>8972185
I just had the thought, Museum + is also the only game that has any real difference to just throwing the games on my vita and emulating them. I believe it also has some games on there that are harder to emulate, so that sort of pulls it ahead of the others.

I appreciate the rundown, and it’s good to know there are several pac-man games on there that are worth it. Gonna go ahead and grab the roms for Rolling Thunder and Mappy tonight as I’ve never played those.

>>8972185
>Personally I like Museum+ the most.
This.

>>8972210
Worldwide leaderboards.

>>8972242
?

>>8972326
For each game in Museum+ there's global leaderboards.

>>8972185
256 and CE2 fucking suck. Also no Pac 'n Roll?

>>8972394
>256
It's alright. I like going through an endless Pac maze
>CE2 fucking suck.
Frig off. It's different for sure but it's fun. Different rules.

>>8969809
>I heard there's input lag in some console versions

I've been hearing this too. Some people say its really bad but I haven't noticed anything too crazy.

>>8972480
I noticed it's hard to make twitchy turns but the original was like that right?

>>8966405
contrarian

>>8966412
>has started
retarded newfag, /v/ mindset has been on /vr/ for years

>>8966410
My local arcade was an Aladdin's Castle and had pac-man tokens. Not sure if Namco bought them out or it was always that way, I was born in 1988 so I was a grade schooler as arcades were really starting to die out and didn't pay much attention to that stuff.

the original pac-man collection is better since it included Ms Pacman, albeit as DLC but it was there

>>8972550
it didn't have arrangement arcade ver
arrangement is better than ms. pac-man

I got to 2nd place in the Switch leaderboard haha (could have gotten more points considering once i reached lv.30 i just seppuku'd but oh well).

>tfw more excited to play a collection of old pac-man games than anything that was announced at the PlayStation event

I can’t tell if it’s the comfort in the nostalgia, or if these old games really are that much better. This must be how older people felt when watching trailers for new movies…

>>8972713
These old games are really that much better.
I hate that the RE4 Remake exists. I think it should stop that. You're not going to be better than the best game of all time, stop trying.

Pac-Man CE NES is really good. A Pac-Man with randomly generated CE like mazes would put Pac-Man back on the map for players of all ages.

>>8972718
Something’s definitely different. It feels like when I beat a new game I’m just done with it and it either goes on the shelf to collect dust, or I sell it. With these older games I’ll beat them (if they are linear with an end point) and instantly boot them back up to replay them and either find all the secrets, or try and do better, then on those subsequent playthroughs I’ll have just as much fun if not more. I don’t think any game past the sixth gen era has really captured that.
>best game of all time
Dunno if I’d go that far, but a remake does seem pretty asinine for a game that really hasn’t aged that badly.

>>8972713
There's something about it's addictiveness in it's simplicity and pick n' play aspect. No hassle, no 100+ hours just pure undulterated fun.

The button arrangement is really fucking annoying

>>8972761
Yeah a little. Weird and stupid for a game on PC to not have button remapping in 2022. It seems they went off Nintendo controls for every version, so Xbox's B is jump in Pac-Land and Pac-Mania.

>>8972745
You're playing games that are designed to be finished once and shelved and then saying it's a symptom of the entire industry. In fact right now, there are tons of arcade games being developed that have replay value, but you've become too jaded and out of your element that you deem them less than the games you played in your youth. I'm amazed at this recent trend on /vr/ where old games are idolised as some kind of lightning in a bottle never to be found again.

>>8972785
Even games like MGS3 feel more replayable than the stuff that comes out nowadays.

But feel free to rec me arcade style games that I can buy on steam now. I am open to new games I haven't heard of before.

Super pac man is impossible with these unresponsive controls

>>8972952
Devil Daggers
Nex Machina
Assault Android Cactus

Anyone like Tengen Ms. Pac-Man? I got the NES version from eBay recently, been playing a lot of crazy mode.

>>8973069
It's a good port besides the scrolling

>>8972741
>randomly generated
Do you mean the order they appear is random or the mazes themselves are randomly generated?

>>8967207
And yet, it was a quality post. Any other good games on the Astrocade?

>>8973196
1. Off topic
2. Samefag
3. KYS

>>8972718
didn't they already remake re4? mandela effect strikes again

>>8972172
>>8972185
I love almost all the games in Arcade PAC (guess I'm never getting into Druaga, as much as I try). Also has leaderboards and a special challenge mode for each game. Museum+ seems to lack screen rotation/vertical mode. Namcot Collection is mostly gay and they should have just done more arcade ports, but at least there's Wanpaku Graffiti. At least Dragon Spirit, Mappy etc are on ACA. I guess Museum+ is best overall, but PAC is close.

>>8973069
It's great, mainly because of crazy mode. Tengen Pac-Mania also has differences from the arcade but I haven't played with it much.

>>8973030
>>8972952
>Nex Machina
this game is great

try Shadow Gangs if you like Shinobi

>>8971068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbCzKyKZSAk

>>8970145
>>8970154
So the leaderboards are irrevocably broken then?

oh well fun while it lasted

FUCK PAC-MAN IN TIME. I'm glad they never ported that piece of shit to the States. Finished all of the missions in Museum+ and It's absolutely fucking bullshit. I can't even imagine beating this game with 50 fucking levels.

>>8975073
>I'm glad they never ported that piece of shit to the States.
It was released in the US.
>I can't even imagine beating this game with 50 fucking levels.
I beat the game and got 100% on all missions, outside of the last Castle levels and some "how the fuck i was supposed to know that", it was a great time.

>>8966369
Why the fuck does his nose keep getting gradually bigger

The difficulty spike in Pac n Roll is brutal

>>8975124
>It was released in the US.
Wait why is the Museum+ version in Japanese?

>>8975258
I'm guessing having different roms would fuck with saving or something if you're switching languages.
Funny they chose exclusively the Japanese version since Pac-in-Time since it's a western-developed game.

>>8969669
WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS POST THE GENESIS ONE

>>8975124
That remains the worst boxart I've ever seen.
No appeal whatsoever.
Don't post Phalanx you faggot, everyone sees that coming

>>8975395
even funnier that the Japanese version is apparently harder than the US/EU version.

Paying rn on PC. The emulated games have some sound issues, worst example being Pac-In-Time, with sound channels silencing out of nowhere and instrument samples not being played correctly. These problems seem less apparent in the console versions, as I've seen from gameplay videos.

Why is Ms. Pac Man considered the best Pac Man game when Arrangement (arcade) exists?
How does a modern console release version of arrangement look worse than arcade version?

>>8975484
>Why is Ms. Pac Man considered the best Pac Man game when Arrangement (arcade) exists?
Simple purity, "importance", personal preference

>How does a modern console release version of arrangement look worse than arcade version?
by being worse

I like both though

>>8975484
People see that the ghosts are RNG and they think that it fixes a "problem" that they're not even remotely good enough to be affected by

>>8975484
I like SNES/GEN Ms.Pac-Man more than the arcade version for all the modes, faster gameplay and Pac-Booster.
Arrangement is pretty good too.

she cute

Not many people must be playing this, because I am now around 30th place in the world on arrangement arcade (PC).

>>8975971
I'm still above 100 on the Pac-Man leaderboards despite being fucking garbage. 40k score that's it. This game must have sold like dogshit.

>>8975971
Still cool that you were able to make it to the top of the leaderboards though through an iconic game.

>>8975971
>>8975993
Are the leaderboards restricted to system or is it across all ports?

>>8976217
As always it's restricted to system. I don't know why there isn't more crossplay leaderboards

>>8975971
>>8975993
Hey you're doing better than me, and I'm one of the top 20 Arrangement (console) players in the world apparently so take it from an expert

>>8976215
Yeah, it actually feels pretty nice to be near the top of an online leaderboard of a great game rather than place at 25-50k on a popular game.

Does anyone know how I can git gud with the original Pac-Man? I can barely make it to stage 3.

>>8976365
same

>>8976365
I haven't gotten good yet at that game, but I am pretty sure it requires good use of tunnels.

>>8976379
>>8976380
I tried obviously looking up videos and guides but most of them are too complicated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ataGotQ7ir8

What even counts as a non-retro Pac-Man game?

>>8971063
>Pac-Man's Park

>>8972403
Honestly, I just wish CE DX got put into one of these collections. It's the perfect middleground between CE and CE2.

>>8972550
Namco should honestly pull a reversi and make a romhack of Ms. Pacman, change her out for Pac-Mom, rearrange the fruit order, and slightly alter the mazes. The cunts at AtGames can't say shit, because they'd be arguing against the very same bullshit that lead to them having control over Ms. Pacman to begin with.

>>8976365
When the round starts each time you can take a similar path while the ghosts are in scatter.

Always look at what pinky and inky are doing because their AI is programmed to catch you off guard.

Don't go to the corners past round 5 once chase engages until you are certain you won't get caught. Use the middle roundabout as a method of corralling at least pinky and blinky. It doesn't have to be perfect you just need to remember the general timings of chase and scatter

Relying too much on the side exits is not good. You have to learn to time switching at intersections and throwing the ghosts off your tail.

Finally while you can turn corners quicker than ghosts sometimes it's better to go back and forth quickly to allow the ghosts to catch up to you OR delay getting caught by one ahead of you.

Why does every "collection" that just wraps ROMs in an in house emulator always insist on having vsync turned on?

That's why every single rom port has input lag. Is stopping a little screen tearing really a precedent over laggy slow responsive gameplay?

It's nuts.

>>8976567
This is the full list on the collection, as you can see, quite a large chunk counts as "NOT RETRO VIDYA"

>>8966369
theres a pac man emulator for amstrad cpc that uses the actual mame roms, been playing that a lot recently

>>8966369
just tried this collection and its not playable under dx9, yet all seperate versions of these games are. thats a major fail for me. and n e one hoping to play this on a taito type x.

Does this seem like the sort of game that’s going to appreciate in value? I kinda want to pick up a copy for some of the harder to emulate roms, but I also sort of want to wait for it to get updated due to the input delay and figure it might be cheaper by then.

>>8978198
There's leaks for unused seasonal wallpapers so I assume it will have updates down the road

>>8978235
Might go ahead and wait for a bit then. The reviews have been middling (even though the collection is fine) and the nips have definitely reported input lag across all versions. I imagine the price will drop before too long and I’ll pick it up then. Super wanna play Pac & Pal tho.

>>8978546
I think the input lag is just because V-sync is on by default. I turned it off from the beginning and haven't noticed any lag.

>No gacha figure for my nigga Kinky
They did him dirty.

>>8978558
I don’t think you can do that on the switch version though, which is the one I’m after and happens to also be the most expensive at the moment.

How do you unlock Pac Attack in Museum Plus? It says to play Pac in Time twice, but it didn't unlock. Does it mean you have to beat it twice?

>>8978697
Game over twice. Holy shit imagine having to beat Pac-In-Time not only once but twice. I would refund the fucking game.

>Create sparks for 1 sec 100 times

>>8978697
You have to play it twice (aka get a game over then start again).
Quickest way is to start a new game, pause then press L+R to suicide until you run out of lives and let the continue countdown run out.

Anyone know what this actually entails?
Because this is ABOVE the individual mission achievements for Pac & Pal, Pac-In-Time, and Pac-Man 256.

I really wish there was another Namco Museum with the amount of care and cool shit as this. The customizable arcade idea is really cool, as are the missions. I want that but with Mappy and Galaga too ya know

I don't understand Pac Motos. I just move in the direction of an enemy and push them off. Where is the skill or strategy? I don't feel compelled by the game to get better times or anything. It doesn't pose any challenge. I just don't understand what the hook of the game is.

>>8979561
it's the best game for getting tons of coins, that's its only appeal.

>>8966405
My brother and I grew up with the SNES port, so I have a soft spot for it and its whimsical soundtrack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhnrHitLONA

>>8979561
It's the pussy version of regular Motos.
In regular Motos, you actually have to consider how you approach the enemy instead of mindlessly bumping however you want.
Pac-Motos nerfs the difficulty a lot.

>>8972516
Kind of envious of people who got to experience them in their day. I hardly remember it. I think that the arcade culture where I lived was still around until 2005 or so in the form of some mini golf places

>>8966417
I wonder if society would be different if there were still places to go like arcades? i feel like even adults can benefit from physically going out to places and playing new weird cool or stupid arcade games just for the experience and going with their friends and having fun and not being serious. Now people can only have fun playing games in their pods or on their electronic communications rectangle

>>8980050
>>8980060
You could always go to Dave & Busters with a couple friends. It’s more or less the new version of an Arcade, but it’s a bit of a mixed bag. While it has a couple of Arcade machines or neat twists on them, most of the games are bigger versions of IOS games or retooled phone games. I also have mixed feelings about having a bar in a place that is also marketed for kids, but that’s a personal gripe.

>>8975971
I ended up hitting 3rd place on Xbox for 256. Although a couple leaderboard placements for coin collecting is fucked, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm at least 2nd.

>>8980186
Waaaaaay back in the mid 2000s I believe a friend of mine had a birthday at Dave and busters but for some reason I could go. They made it sound like they had like 50 arcade games. Was there a time where this was true?

I think around 2016 or so, I was at a arcade near a beach, in Santa Cruz. I think it shut down during Covid. But they had a flappy bird arcade game which really bothered me a lot because I remember stuff like house of the dead and time crisis where you got a really unique experience you couldn’t get at home. Is that the majority of fave and busters games?

I'm having a lot more fun with Pac & Pal than I thought U would, shit's so comfy somehow. Why is Miru/Mil/whatever completely ghosted from the rest of the series?
>>8969804
Since Namco seems to be retconning her with the "Pac-Mom" redesign, how possible would it be that Ms. Pac-Man eventually gets rereleased as Pac-Mom?

>>8980198
>They made it sound like they had like 50 arcade games. Was there a time where this was true?

Eyup, but like I said. Mixed bag. If that Flappy Bird game bothered you, you’ll be a lot more bothered when you see over half of the other games. That being said, they do actually shell out for some of the more traditional and hardcore arcade machines to. They’ll have the new House of the Dead there, some giant versions of old arcade games like pac-man and centipede. The new and old jurassic park games. Things like that. Sadly they won’t really have any of the older arcade cabinets or reproductions of them though.

All in all if you got a couple of friends and you all pitch in some money for an evening there, it’ll be a good time.

>>8975971
on xbox someone has max score for pac mania how is that possible

>>8966423
tendie that can only play platformers detected.

>>8966405
>>8979675
Based and redpelleted. The new collection not having it is an absolute disgrace and I am never buying it.

>>8966369
>all those reviewers crapping on Pac-Land

Bet a lot of them didn’t read the “tap to go faster”. Personally, I think it has a lot of neat ideas and mechanics for being as old as it is.

>>8981783
Yeah Pac-Land is neat. I think it's really fun. It's really bullshit how nothing in-game tells you how to get past springboards though.

>>8981786
>how to get past springboards though
this has filtered me for years, what are you supposed to do here?

Share your arcades with me. I need ideas.

>>8981863
Mash right.

>>8981863
Jump at the end of the board and then mash the joystick or key to the right. Once you get it its not too bad.

>>8981786
>>8981863
I'm not trying to be a dick because I miss obvious stuff in video games all the time, but why didn't you guys do >>8981881 out of reflex considering you had to do it to keep Pac-Man moving anyways?

>>8981986
You can hold it after you get him to top speed

>>8982001
Okay well I guess the one missing obvious shit again.

>>8981986
I had only played console versions of Pac Land prior to this collection, the controls are different from version to version.

>>8982004
*guess I'm the one
>>8982005
I see, I have only played the arcade version.

Does PS5 have lag or is it just how it is? It feels better with the dpad than the stick but it still isn't perfect, but it's honestly been a long time since I've played Pacman outside of arcades so I'm not sure if non-cab versions of it are just like this

>>8981986
You don't have to mash right in the air to continue to move right when you do a normal jump. The momentum continues until you land with a normal jump. Most people usually just continue to mash once they near the ground again. Not needing to do it in a normal jump throws people off from doing it on a springboard jump.

>>8976595
Got any other tips? I’m like that anon where I’m having trouble getting past level 3. I wanna get really gud at pac-man before going to the others. I saw that the middle has some spots where if you approach them from the bottom the AI will always break off it’s chase, but it’s hard to tell what other arcade tricks work because the “hiding spot” in one of those middle areas sure doesn’t.

>>8981783
What do you expect from gays journalist? They can't even figure out how to operate a game from 2017.

Pac and Pal isn't as bad as I thought it would be.

>>8982913
I really like it personally. I think it's like the 4th best game on there. Just after CE, Arrangement, and the original.

It's underrated. I think at first glance it has a weird concept which throws people off, but it's more fun than Super Pac-Man for sure.

>>8983030
Yeah, I liked Super a lot at first, but its become less enjoyable with time. Meanwhile, Pac and Pal is getting better the more I play.

>>8966410
I think there's still one in Las Vegas called Time Out or something, I'm tempted to go to Vegas just for that

>>8980016
Motos is coming to Arcade Archives... I have never played it

>During his adventure, Junior fell in love with Yum-Yum, the daughter of Blinky. Not accepting of the relationship, Blinky attempts to capture Junior, but both of them escape, allowing the two to be together.

>>8983908
WOOO CANONICAL GHOST BLOWJOB

>>8982408
You could memorize patterns... I'm too honorable/lazy/dumb

There is a javascript pacman that shows the path that the ghosts are targeting visually. It got DMCA'd but it's still out there I'm sure. Maybe somebody has a link?

Which version of Championship Edition does it come with? I’ve seen some places say DX and some places say 2.

>>8984582
The original

>>8980016
That's a shame, because I liked the concept. Guess I should just play the original Motos in mame.

>>8984582
It has the original Championship Edition, which actually plays very different to Champion Edition DX, which is fucking stupid and confusing.

>>8966412
>>8966416
>>8972504
none of you has been on /v/ and it shows. /vr/ is still far off from that place's mentality. We can still properly discuss shit in here

>>8966412
>calling that post /v/
Okay, but is he wrong, though? His complaint is understandable.

>>8972745
That's because modern games completely lost their replayability because the west loves wasting time in open worlds. They bloat their first run for a spectacular "experience". They never cared about incentivizing replayability with their gameplay features alone. And these are the people that rule the market today now that japan refuses to buy home consoles. It's just all about being held hostage in an Open World concept with uninteractive D&D structures being your "gameplay".
But most japanese games these days still stay true to their replayability though. RE4 Remake and FFXVI will definitely have post-game and ng+ stuff to warrant longevity, just like their predecessors. Tales of Arise turns into a Devil May Cry with countless characters to lab or rerun the game solo with. So does Stranger of Paradise and NEO TWEWY. People are abusing the juggle exploit in both Judgment games to make fun combos.
And that's excluding games that naturally have longevity through their competitive aspects (Gran Turismo 7, some fightans like GG Strive, Super Bomberman R Online that gets shet on for not having Bombergirl booba)

The thing is that people these days view games as nothing but disposable goods. As shit you just finish and then throw into your shelf for good. Very few people actually stick with some selected games and try to get good at them. Or enjoy them solely because of their gameplay. If you go with that mindset you will still find appealing modern games, albeit not in a large quantity.
That's why Devs are focusing on holding you hostage longer with trivial activities so you can "justify" spending 60 dollars on a game that is 3-digit hours long and so gives you the necessary "value" for your money. Nobody even considers New Game +ing a game and getting their actual value that way. After all they got a backlog to guzzle through. You can thank them for our current misserable vidya state in the west.

>>8985671
The last bit of your post is no doubt why the professional reviews for Pac-Man Museum have been so negative. If you read them it sounds like they either played them wrong and gave up, or played 15 minutes of Pac-Man and just said “good enough” so they could get back to their hand holding open world game they could play once and be done with.

>>8985707
I like how you call it "professional reviews". Regular outlets that have to review every game under the sun couldn't possibly review gameplay-centric games like pacman with 100% fairness. That's solely because games like that just need way more time and practice to be fully grasped. There are so many nuances you only see or notice in your 3rd or 4th run, someone who has to review countless games within a short timeframe couldn't possibly understand what's going on in one individual game.
I'm not trying to say you have to be die-hard competitive to review a game fairly. I'm just saying you're usually nowhere near even intermediate level of expertise after one measly run. Interactive and deep games don't fit into the usual review system. Which is why i always look what the active scene itself has to say about the game instead of one random fucker who just got out of Horizon Forbidden West and then immediately had to put his hands on the Pacman Museum.

>>8985707
>The last bit of your post is no doubt why the professional reviews for Pac-Man Museum have been so negative
You're probably right, but there are decent reasons to be negative about it, like lack of dip switches or really any options at all

I kind of tried to do something fun with my arcade. It doesn't really look that good but whatever.

>>8985872
Shit
Fuck
I just realized I got the oranges and apples in the wrong order
I'm a fucking Pac-Fraud
A Pac-Poser

>>8976595
All the tips on how to git gud on Pac-Man does not make sense for me. Other than those spots where the ghosts can't find you everything else sounds like numbers. I am RETARDED.

FUCK PAC IN TIME. SERIOUSLY FUCK THIS GAME!!!!

>>8986093
If you're just trying to get the missions done, you can save during rounds, and if you die you start at the round you died on with no lives lost. Since you only get the one extra life you have to choose when to burn your spare lives, but it's an option.

We have to go back...

>>8986214
this pic isn't retro

>>8986227
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>8968867
it's just a reskin of some other Amiga game though.

>>8967956
256 is genius though...

>>8975403
The SNES one is sluggish as hell.

>>8986228
not him but that's definitely a flat screen. a real pac-man cab definitely has a smaller screen that's more recessed into the machine, from my memory at least. and since it's CRT it wouldn't capture that well on camera.

>>8986228
>>8986538
yeah see like here's a real one. Having a big flat screen straight up like that on an arcade cab is stupid because you're so up close to it and you'd have to move your eyes and neck more, it'd be uncomfortable. Whoever replaced the screen should have used a smaller one and put it in the correct spot.

>>8986229
You're thinking of the computer and Game Boy versions - the SNES version is its own game.

>>8984491
https://pacman.calvinjc.com/v5.0/index.html

here is what the pacman ghosts are thinking in realtime

Just an aside party Pinky is da bes and there is practically no art of her.

>>8984491
Learning the “safe” patterns is really helping. It’s nice because even if you learn the patterns the ghosts might throw a curveball at you and cause you to improvise every now and then. Not to mention just knowing the safe spots and starting to get down the ghost AI is getting me up to around level 7 or 8 now.(that moment the ghosts break their pattern and circle back on you)
>>8987287
Gonna try this later just to get a better visual representation of them.

Here's an article about the original game's ghost behavior
https://gameinternals.com/understanding-pac-man-ghost-behavior

Dudes I don't know if my memory is fucked up but I swear on the original Pac-Man arcade you can input a turn before you actually made it at the intersection of the maze. I'm playing it on Museum+ and it drives me insane how I have to input my turn RIGHT when I have to turn. Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

>>8987820
No you can totally do that in Museum+
I don't know what the fuck you're doing wrong but you can definitely do that, Pac-Man would be unplayable without it

>>8987826
Really?? I tap the turn before I actually make the turn and it's not doing it.

>>8987826
Ok I just tried it no you can't. You have to input the turn right when you're supposed to turn. At least in Museum+

>>8987832
>tap
just hold it a little longer
i'm PRETTY sure that's how it worked on arcade machines too. You're supposed to hold the input to pre-turn, not just tap it and expect it to register next time you hit a turn

>>8987820
later Pac games have that, try it on 256 for example

>Pac-Man is able to navigate the turns in the maze faster than his enemies. He does not have to wait until he reaches the middle of a turn to change direction as the ghosts do (see picture below). Instead, he may start turning several pixels before he reaches the center of a turn and for several pixels after passing it.

https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/the-pac-man-dossier

that's how pac-man works from the first game, museum+ didn't change that. I think it's in most/all the maze games in some way. CE has the sparks thing, in Arrange AC you can noticeably see him round corners.

>>8969809
Which game do you have to play to unlock that wallpaper?

>>8975484
>>8975573

i agree on the importance part, the truth here is that Ms. Pacman is supposed to be a game AND character just as famous as her husbando. and the fact that Namco has been trying to pull excuse after excuse to bury her just because a mistake they might or might not have made is just an insult to the popularity, AND money the character gave them back then and it could STILL give them if it werent for their JAPANESE ANCIENT HONOR FOLDED 1000 TIMES!

Did Ms. Pac-Man ever have an arcade release in Japan?

Where is this 3D version of Arrangement in Museum+ from? It looks and sounds like a Bomberman game.

>>8989501
Namco Museum Battle Collection on the PSP

>>8989441
>Ms. Pac-Man was never released in any arcade form in Japan, and would not receive a Japanese home console release until 1990 on the Atari Lynx.[1][2]

that's what they say anyway

https://pacman.fandom.com/wiki/Ms._Pac-Man_(game)

>>8985872
nice pac-man stage

>>8987351
Here's some art of Party Pinky, alongsids other Pinkys.

>>8990654
4,5,8, and 9 are all best.

>>8990654
>6th one
need ghost blowjob

>>8991180
Stop.

>>8990693
Patrician.

>>8968867
Real talk, why did the new collection emulate the Super Famicom version? It's not like it's Japan-only. That's such a weird choice. Game itself is also a strange pick to bring back. Are they reviving the Ghost Witch for Pac-Man World 4 or something?

is this worth getting on xbox? every game i own on series x is a 360 game and this is the first newer title ive seen thst doesnt look like totally cucked garbage. do i just get to play cool old pac man games and win ooints to buy stuff for my own little arcade room or something?

>>8968867
Why the fuck do they have this but not the game it's a fucking follow-up to?

>>8992265
Because Namco is testing the waters to see if they can get away with wiping the slate clean with Pac-Mom (and to a lesser extent, Pac-Buddy, Pac-Boy and Pac-Sis). Pac-Man 2 would be much more involved due to all the text and sprites that'd have to be redone as opposed to the two or three frames in other games. Not to mention, the game has an unlockable Ms. Pac-Man, which requires, like, actual romhacking work to take care of instead of basic-bitch graphical/lua stuff. It would also have to be the SNES version since the Genesis port with the "Pac-Jr." edit lacks a Japanese release.

>>8992639
They absolutely need to cut this hysterical shit out right now. Japs are fucking embarrassing.

What's really bullshit is that they absolutely own every single character in Ms. Pac-Man. They just don't own the modified code. This character replacement is completely unnecessary and petty.

>>8991796
Because the Japanese version happens to not mention Ms./Mrs. Pac-Man by name in the intro, instead it mentions Pac-Land for some reason.
>>8992639
Funnily enough according to the museum figures they're leaving Professor Pac virtually alone despite his game reportedly being the reason Namco terminated ties with Midway.

>>8991826
>. do i just get to play cool old pac man games and win ooints to buy stuff for my own little arcade room or something?
yes

>>8992693
how fucking hard would it be to romhack the damn thing to replace a single name that only shows up a single time
I mean, god damn, they're already having to hack it to censor her with the big hat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Ex3Ce1KNU

any other pac-maniacs hoping mezmeron makes a comeback

come on namco listen to the fans

>>8991796
>>8992693
>It's actually true.
This, my friends, is why on-the-fly emulation patches are cheap. Remember always that Namco though it was easier to built a translation displayer inside their emulator for their own shitty translation of the game instead of ROM-hack the "Mrs. Pac-Man" text out of there. It's not even a decent one like Radical Dreamers that gives the illusion that it's encoded into the ROM itself, it's literally off-center, dollar-store subtitles. Pathetic.

I've been loading up my newly hacked 3ds with roms and need the best version of pac-man for the system (or one I can emulate from NES/SNES/GB/DS/megadrive)

I grabbed the 3ds pacman/Galaga game but wasn't sure if there was a more faithful port

>>8994310
>3ds pacman/Galaga game
probably the best one
even has CE
I had a similar dilemma before, so I know all the different versions on the system
You can also get MAME on there

>>8980214
The D&B's I go to is the only one I know that has a Guitar Hero arcade machine in NJ. When I go there, I just swipe my card on there like 10 times and go at it. Everybody there plays easy mode "Slow Ride", but I'm experienced enough to do songs in Expert no problem. Having a crowd of people around you at an arcade as you show your skill is a feeling that you just have to be there to experience it. I also play Pac-Man battle royale, Mario kart arcade GX 2 and Mario Bros over there too. So overall they do have good stuff depending on the location, but yes mobile games like fucking Crossy Road gets a whole machine, while something like Piano Tiles at least gets huge piano tiles for you to hit while playing to progress, which makes it better than mobile desu.