/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8967313
>casualizes Sonic 1 by letting you spindash
>has more slowdown in general in Sonic 2
>uses the wrong sound effects in Sonic 3
Saturnbros... we got too cocky...

>>8967714
you can turn off the spindash bud

Any fun games on Saturn?

>>8967714
>>casualizes Sonic 1 by letting you spindash
Completely and utterly optional, ALSO Jam has the japanese version of Sonic 1 with the better background parallax. It's superiour to the US/EU versions of Sonic 1!
>>has more slowdown in general in Sonic 2
Actually, it has some slowdowns in some parts the original doesn't, but it also goes the other way around and removes slowdown in parts the original has. ALSO, Jam has 2-player mode without any slowdown at all. Sonic 2 also definitive version and better than on Mega Drive!
>>uses the wrong sound effects in Sonic 3
Nope, and it also fixes all the sound glitches that happen on Ice Cap Act 2 on the original, on Jam you can actually listen to the sound effects without any music stuttering.
Holy shit, definitive versions of all 3 games!

>>8967725
Baku Baku, Panzer Dragoon II Zwei, Radiant Silvergun, NiGHTS

If you don't have the original cartridge with the ability to lock on to knuckles by actually inserting it and not selecting it on a screen you didn't really play the game

>>8967714
You can just not do the spindash you retard

>>8967313
can i get a quick rundown
what is different about this release than the originals

>>8968004
i believe thats a sonic game
it has tails, and knuckles too

>>8968004
>>8967726

No reason to play vanilla Sonic 3/K in current year anymore when Sonic 3 Complete exists.
>inb4 kvetching about emulation
You can play it on OG hardware via a flash cart.

>>8968181
dont conflate real hardwarefags with those who refuse to play romhacks

>>8967973
Jam is based as fuck

>>8967313
Is the kid diddler removed from this one?

>>8967313
>>8967714
samefag
stop making this fucking thread
>>8968185
it's the same general idea
purism in "intentions"
although a lot of romhacks aren't that good tbf

>>8967730
Good to know, what about Clockwork Knight? Looking for a half decent platformer

>>8967313
>>8968372
>lacks Sonic CD
Shit compilation, senpai.

>>8968372
You didn't really play the game

>>8968394
Pretty run of the mill, but I like it. Has a really unusual aesthetic. I would recommend it if you really like platformers, prerendered graphics or you just have nostalgia for early Saturn games

>>8968004
> Sega wanted a compilation of classic Sanic games on the Saturn to introduce the franchise to new players who didn't have a Genesis in preparation for Sonic X-treme's launch (ololol)
> Instead of making an emulator and lazily throwing some ROMs on a disc they actually ported all three games to the console
> Has a 3D "Sonic World" bonus that acts as a proto-Sonic Adventure and is stuffed with series art, soundtracks, FMVs, advertisements, and obscure facts that are really cool to go through if you are a classic Sonic fan

If you were a Sega kid this was basically your Super Mario Allstars (except you got the original versions of the games instead of godawful butchered ones like SNESfags got)

>>8968394
gex

>>8969828
i really doubt the saturn was powerful enough to emulate genesis. at most it could do master system.

>>8969923
The Saturn literally had a Genesis CPU on the mobo, dingus (the Motorola 68000, far left on the bottom with the circled M on it). It was used for audio processing for Saturn games, but could just as easily be used to run Genesis games in a sandbox mode if they really wanted it to.

This is how the PS2 originally ran PS1 games. The PS1's CPU was used to i/o to and from the PS2's hard drive when in PS2 mode, but functioned as a PS1 CPU when the system was running in PS1 mode.

>>8969923
>emulate genesis
anon i.....

the called it the "master system" because it was backwards compatible with all the sega hardware revisions up until that point..
sg-1000, card catcher, sega my cards, sms titles

>>8969991
If I remember right, Sega was all about backward compatibility back then. You could get an adapter to play Master System games on the Genesis or Game Gear.

>>8968404
I feel ya anon, with Sonic CD it'd be THE absolute most kino compilation in history, but that'd mean it being a 2-CD set and being more expensive... at least you can say you can have the whole Sonic experience if you own Jam and Sonic CD.
>>8967973
>>8968579
OP is talking about Sonic 3, not Sonic & Knuckles.

>>8969986
>but could just as easily be used to run Genesis games in a sandbox mode if they really wanted it to.
It's a lot more complicated than that. There's no VDP, Z80 or YM2612. Pretty much none of the peripherals are connected to it and even if they were the IO map would be completely different.
Just having a 68k doesn't mean you can suddenly run Genesis games.
>This is how the PS2 originally ran PS1 games. The PS1's CPU was used to i/o to and from the PS2's hard drive when in PS2 mode, but functioned as a PS1 CPU when the system was running in PS1 mode.
The PS2 also has a backwards compatible mechacon, backwards compatible SPU, backwards compatible serial ports and a dedicated hardware emulator for the PS1 GPU interface. Pretty much the whole console outside of the IOP is also backwards compatible with the PS1 to some degree.

>>8968579
Sonic Jam are hardware ports to the Saturn, not emulation.

>>8969828
>trying to bring console wars to a comfy Sonic thread
based, but cuckpilled.

>>8967313
>not playing sonic 3 complete on original hardware

>>8970925
>>8968181
Completeshills need not apply.
Just play Sonic 3 as originally released without all the extra autism.

>>8970945
>STOP PLAYING THIS BETTER VERSION OF A GAME AND PLAY LIKE THE DEVELOPERS INTENDED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Ironic you complain about autism when you're the one who's autistic as fuck.

>>8971396
The pacing sucks balls in 3 Complete. Only an actual autist would want to sit down for a two hour replay of Sonic, and reloading a save file feels like cheating and kills the pace anyway.

>>8971443
Sonic 3 Complete lets you play just Sonic 3 or Sonic & Knuckles by itself, too.

>using save files is cheating
Holy autism, batman.

Does Complete have a Time Attack mode? Jam does.

>>8973381
>speedtrooning shittier versions of the games
Saturntards.....

>>8974145
>time attack mode
>speedrunning
zoomers shouldn't be allowed on /vr/

>>8967726
Based. Going to buy myself a copy now

>>8968394
Burning rangers

>>8967725
Power slave
All three panzer dragoons
Radiant silvergun
Galactic attack
Hyper duel
Batsugun/dodonpachi
Blast wind
Plenty more shmups
Gungriffon1 and 2
Multiplats like tomb raider castlevania croc rayman, gex
Steep slope sliders
Virtua cop 1 and 2, HOTD
Vitua fighter 2, figters megamix, last bronx, virtua on
All the capcom/snk fighters
Baku baku, columns collection
Die hard arcade, trilogy
Sega rally championship, daytona, manxtt superbike
Nights
Duke nukem, Quake, alien
Sega ages line
Elevator action returns
Megaman
Sonic r
Burning rangers
Mobile suit gundam
Guardian heroes
Three dirty dwarves
Dragonforce 1 and 2
Shining force 3
Policenauts
Bomberman
Astal, clockwork knight
Sega memorial, konami antiques
Dont play bug 1 or 2 they’re terrible
Ninpen manmaru was surprisingly ok

>>8970695
>OP is talking about Sonic 3, not Sonic & Knuckles
Stop being a retard

>>8974691
Anon...you DO know that Sonic 3 released first and then Sonic & Knuckles, right?

>>8967973
This, pretty much.

SOVL:
>actually connecting two carts physically together

soulless:
>selecting from an in-game menu a la >>8968372

>>8974754
Yes, I own both, dumbass. You didn't really play the game(s)

>>8974808
Which Game Sack episode is that from?

>>8975028
Retro Duo Portable Handheld

>>8974808
Again, this thread is talking about Sonic 3, not Sonic & Knuckles, but even so, that Sonic Jam polygonal cart menu screen is pure SOUL, better than regular text menu like in other Sonic/Sega compilations. It's the next best thing after the original carts, AND, remember, Jam is not emulation, it's actually ported to Saturn hardware.
Also also, I hope you're not one of the Completeshills, because those can't use the original cart, only emulation or everdrive.
But still, Jam has the sound fix on Ice Cap Act 2 and the Time Attack mode, so there.

>>8967730
>nights
he asked for fun games, not gay games

>>8975321
Projecting, anon?

>>8975292
>Again, this thread is talking about Sonic 3, not Sonic & Knuckles
Stop being retarded, the two games are basically part one and two of the same game and you can play Sonic 3 using the S&K cart

>>8975347
>and you can play Sonic 3 using the S&K cart
But it has an easier Launch base and no Big Arm.

>>8975392
You only connect S&K after you've completed Sonic 3 by itself. That way, you get the unmodified, pure S3 experience.

>>8975430
At that point might as well just play them separately, that way you can also enjoy S&K's kino intro title screen.
Also, S3 on Mega Drive still has the sound issues on Ice Cap Act 2.

Scott the woz owns this game.

Imagine playing Sonic 3 and never coming across
Endless Mine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SKcTZNeRnQ

>>8977626
It's a well known fact that the competition levels music are superiour to the normal game levels music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNGs6IYvkVU

We were robbed of the best BGM, Sonic3bros.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OqvIfKSTwTI

>>8969828
Sonic Jam blew my fucking mind back in the day this was also before I got into computers or even knew the internet existed so being able to see japanese commercials was so fucking cool and all of the catchy songs.

Viday had so much fucking soul back in the day I want to go back....