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8966865 No.8966865 [Reply] [Original]

Genius or charlatan? Or just lucky?

>> No.8966872

>>8966865
As with most boomers, the latter. Right place at the right time. Booming economies, a market begging for new technologies, and a new demographic ready to consume it.

>> No.8966924

>>8966865
it takes a little bit of all three

>> No.8966940

>>8966865
None, he was just a good engineer to suss out what people actually want with a portable console and figured out that you could build that console with widely produced graphics calculator components rather than niche traditional video game hardware that other companies tried to shrink into a handheld.

>> No.8966941

>>8966865
Possibly the greatest human mind that emerged in the 20th century after Turing

>> No.8967091

>>8966865
Genius

>> No.8967216

>>8966865
all of the above and more

>> No.8967217

I feel a little nauseous bros I ate too much of some strange peanut butter wafer cookie things in my pantry. What do I do?

>> No.8967220

>this legendary person who made huge successful things was actually a hack!
why are internet people obsessed with doing this? what do you even gain from it?

>> No.8967262

>>8966872
imagine blaming boogeymen for your own inequities and failures in life

no one had it easier than you faggot
go to fucking work

>> No.8967280

>>8966865
retarded, and shitty console

>> No.8967360

>>8967280
He also made the wonderswan, it's not a Nintendo console. There, your fried /vr/ brain won't make you shit on him anymore, no need to thank me

>> No.8967363

>>8967217
I am thankful every time this happens to me because I stop eating snacks and junk food for a while.

>> No.8967378

>>8967220
>i-if this person is a hack, then maybe it means I'm not that bad after all!

I think is their logic

>> No.8967379

What does Jackie Chan have to do with video games

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8967385

>>8967379

>> No.8967410

>>8967220
>Shigeru Miyamoto is a hack
>Gumpei Yokoi is a hack
>Yuji Naka is a hack
>Yu Suzuki is a hack
>Shinji Mikami is a hack
>Hideo Kojima is a hack
>Tetsuya Nomura is a hack
Anyone else I left?

>> No.8967416

>>8967410
Yeah, (You).

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>>8967379

>> No.8967424

>>8967410
Of course, how could you forget
>Suda
>Kamiya
>Ueda
>Taro

>> No.8967425

>>8967220
They're jealous that their favorite designer isn't more well-known and popular. I see Yoshiaki Koizumi fans do this all the time in Nintendo circles.

>> No.8967427
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8967427

>>8966865
legit one of my heros

>> No.8967428

>>8967410
Horror game connoisseur edition
>Toyama is a hack
>Shibata is a hack

>> No.8967430

>>8967410
Hironobu Sakaguchi

>> No.8967439

>>8967430
Yuji Horii. And that Level-5 guy who did Dark Cloud and Ni no Kuni, him too

>> No.8967492

>>8967217
If you kill yourself it will stop hurting. Think about it.

>> No.8967497

>>8967416
I never pretended to be a genius.

>> No.8967557

>>8967425
Sometimes it's because they hate the popular creator in question and they want to minimalize/triviliaze his contribution to said work.
>Kojima is a hack. It was actually Fukushima who made MGS1-3 great even though Fukushima was just a dialogue writer who was mostly in charge of the optional CODEC conversations.
Or
>Kojima is a hack, it was actually his localizers that fixed his writing even though I'm not fluent enough in Japanese to appreciate Kojima's games in their original language.

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8967579

>>8966865
Yokoi, Sakamoto and Hirokazu Tanaka were the true mvps of Nintendo

>> No.8967596

>"Lucky"
>Gets assassinated and it looks like an accident
Sure OP

>> No.8967639

Luck doesn't do much for you if you don't have the skill to capitalize on it

>> No.8967645

>>8967220
Kids all go through these phases.
The people who are famous while they are growing up are gods in their eyes, doing things that their infant minds can't grasp and they want to be those guys.
Then when they get older they recognise that their former idols didn't necessarily do anything crazy special, they were just standing on the shoulders of a great many people and if any of those pillars wasn't there, there would have been no gameboy.
Later still they'll realise that hard work is its own reward and fame is random and fleeting. But along the way they'll be angry and bitter about it on anime imageboards.
Put another way, if you had designed and built the NeoGeo Pocket, would you be happy that you got to make such an incredible device, or bitter that it got blindsided by a color mod to an ancient tetris machine? Your answer will change over time...

>> No.8967679

>>8967262
>>no one had it easier than you faggot
>go to college with dim career prospects
>pay ballooning student debt out of the ass
>90% of jobs are gig works with no future because all manufacturing jobs have gone to third world countries
>housing costs keep rising because boomers wont sell their properties
>be homeless and get mugged on the streets or harassed by police
>get shot for being an american
Ok boomer. Go back to lemonparty with your ymca pals or something.

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8967692

>>8967410
the entirety of japan is a hack
don't think too much about it

>> No.8967737

>>8967262
>no one had it easier than you faggot
I was born in Uganda

>> No.8967818

>>8967410
>Shigeru Miyamoto is a hack
yes. literally just an idea guy who does nothing, and is obsessed with games being as simple, and childish, and boring as possible.
>Gumpei Yokoi is a hack
not a hack, but if it wasn't for Tetris and Pokemon, and getting a Yakuza hit called on him, he wouldn't be held in such high regard
>Yuji Naka is a hack
complete hack. code monkeys who can't even code on anything except a 68000. threw everyone with any talent under the bus to prop himself up, and proceeded to release disaster after disaster for the next 20 years without them. probably the biggest hack on this list, and most likely legitimately autistic too.
>Yu Suzuki is a hack
Not a hack at all, just really bad with money.
>Shinji Mikami is a hack
Not a hack
>Hideo Kojima is a hack
Hack writer but his game design and layout is actually pretty good. The metal gear plots were always retarded anime tier drivel anyway.
>Tetsuya Nomura is a hack
no idea who this is, so probably a hack

>> No.8967826

>>8967818
>yes. literally just an idea guy who does nothing, and is obsessed with games being as simple, and childish, and boring as possible.
Also he likes to not correct people when he is given credit for the work of others, much like Gene Roddenberry used to do.

>> No.8967836

>>8967679
i got a meme degree and now the feds wont be my paypigs

study a relevant field or get a trade job like the rest of functioning society


it is always our own decision who we are
stop making up excuses

>> No.8967837

>>8967679
coddled lazy libtard

>> No.8967838

>>8967818
>complete hack. code monkeys who can't even code on anything except a 68000. threw everyone with any talent under the bus to prop himself up, and proceeded to release disaster after disaster for the next 20 years without them. probably the biggest hack on this list, and most likely legitimately autistic too.
t. ex-SOA employee.

>> No.8967842

>>8967737
it was clearly a middle-class american posting and you know it. tumblrinas get brainwashed and think their mental disease/worldview is normal\acceptable


you dont go around blaming others for your own fuckups, right anon?
foreigners in the united states understand this and are thankful for the opportunity

>> No.8967843

>>8967818
You seriously don't know who Nomura is? Remember the gayest characters in Final Fantasy like Sephiroth? He drew them

>> No.8967852

>>8967679
>i signed up for meme (((degrees))) and debt
>i advocate for more government while complaining that it is corrupt
>i want everyone to comply with draconian policies, but only if I believe them though
>blames police even though theyre the only thing stopping the country from becoming a shithole overnight
cognitive dissonance

>> No.8967857

>>8967818
you must be 18+ to access this website

>> No.8967859

>>8967836
>it is always our own decision who we are
you really think zoomers are gonna take personal responsibility for their actions? kek

>> No.8967864

>>8966865
> Genius?
Then he would still be alive

> Charlatan?
What do you think got him killed?

> Lucky?
Again, if he was lucky, he would still be alive

>> No.8967871

>>8967360
i consider the wobderswan a godawful console

>> No.8967879

>>8967843
Why would I know the name of whoever makes and draws generic weeb characters? I haven't played a jrpg for over 15 years now. Anyway he's not a hack I guess because he knows his target audience and makes characters for them

>> No.8967884

>>8967871
then you dont have one?
i use mine to this day as a digimon

>> No.8967889

>>8967871
Yeah, it's really fucking bad, isn't it? Bandai is one of the richest companies in Japan, they could make a great console and attract lots of experienced devs but they failed. As far as I remember Apple Pippin was also Bandai's doing

>> No.8967890

>>8967852
>slams degrees
what do you do for a living then?

>> No.8967901

>>8967889
nearly 10% of the marketshare
with a brand new product line
in a highly competitive computer field

it really didn't do that bad
non-japs cant relate i guess
the library offers little to cater to them

did the pc-98 fail in your eyes too?

>> No.8967902

>>8967842
>you dont go around blaming others for your own fuckups, right anon?
I mean, I blame Idi Amin's regime at least a little, but that was also a long time ago. We're not third world anymore, if second world was still a classification we'd be that.

>> No.8967906

>>8967890
electrical engineering graduate & "night engineer" for an almond processing plant

people have been screeching at republicans because the tv told them to since the end of the cretaceous period

>> No.8967909

>>8967410
Yokoi and Suzuki are the only ones from that list that aren't actually hacks.

>> No.8967920

>>8967902
surely given the opportunity for a live/destiny in the united states (literally handed to you on a silver spoon at birth) you wouldn't waste the opportunity and blame others is my point.

people fail to take initiative and become unhappy while others move onwards and upwards.

i've met many people from iraq, lebanon, thailand, the Philippines, etc
they all share the same disdain for "useful idiots"


you can always spot the brainwashed tv watchers -
their opinion is the same as the propaganda , how profound kek

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8967929

>>8967427
the thought of iwata crunching the gold silver code to fit kanto in aswell, still makes me smile to this day

>> No.8967935

>>8967859
>a generation of apathetic baby-killers
>personal responsibility
MY FUCKING SIDES

>> No.8967943

>>8966865
Probably used those weird garter things to keep his socks up.
The arrogant bastard.

>> No.8967958

>>8967943
kekked

>> No.8967971

>>8967920
>surely given the opportunity for a live/destiny in the united states
I don't live in the US but I get your point. I still live in Uganda, it's just not as poor as it used to be.

>> No.8967981

>>8967971
try to marry a us citizen
you will be allowed to stay forever

the right thing to do would be to stay and help your own country prosper though

>> No.8967990

>>8967981
My country is already prospering, I don't really need to help. The country is poor but it keeps improving. We're not fucking Burundi

>> No.8967995

>>8967990
do well friend

>> No.8967996

>>8967737
do u knoe de wey?

>> No.8968001

>>8967996
I wish we were remembered for the Top Gear episode and not that movie because the trio made our country look very nice.

>> No.8968008

>>8967971
The fuck are you seriously from Uganda? Are you a legit African? I'm from Russia, it's basically the same shit except skin color of people here

>> No.8968039

>>8968001
>>8968008
i hope you both understand that not all americans are retards

>> No.8968052

>>8968039
its just exhausting, when all of your peers waddle around mindlessly parroting the television while smelling horribly

>> No.8968056

>>8968052
>>8968039
i literally smoke cigarettes at night so i don't have to smell them in my daily life

>> No.8968057

>>8968001
Don't take it personal, I'm shitposting only, I haven't seen Top Gear.
If it helps I'm a Poorfag Mexicunt and my country is always yellow filter desert drugland in movies

Thank God retrogames are free through emulation. I don't know how I'd survive without a Mega Man X or Comix Zone fix living here.

>> No.8968064

>>8968008
>The fuck are you seriously from Uganda?
Yes
>Are you a legit African?
No, my family is descended from Brits that came here during the scramble for africa and thought it was so nice that didn't want to leave

>> No.8968073

>>8968064
Actually I should correct that because my family isn't 100% white, there are native Ugandans in it. But I mean, I'm white.

>> No.8968089

>>8968064
Man your life must be truly wild
>>8968039
No, I like Americans. You are our brothers because you are as uncultured and dumb as people in Russia except you have 10000x more money but you choose to spend it on garbage and become obese anyway. If people here had as much money they'd all just die from alcoholism and cheap drugs

>> No.8968095

>>8968089
americans have brain damage from the poisoned food and water here

the poison is cumulative and intentional to keep the elderly from leeching off the government financial systems

things are v corrupt here

>> No.8968126

>>8966865
He is the actual genius behind modern Nintendo.
>invented game & watch
>recruited miyamoto out of gut instinct
>invented game boy, which carried nintendo through repeated fuck-ups and allowed them to make the ultimate gaming form factor, switch
>metroid producer

>> No.8968425

They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.
>>8967679

>>8967836
>UM, SIR, YOU GOT A MEME DEGREE?
>ARE YOU AWARE THAT SJWS IN ACADEMIA ARE NOT AN ISSUE AT ALL?
>AND THAT EVERYTHING IS AS GOOD AS IT EVER WAS? EVEN BETTER IN FACT? SIR?
>WHAT AM I TO BELIEVE, THAT THEY'VE INFECTED EVERYTHING?

>>8967852
>Damn this man
>I must imagine he's a leftist to continue arguing with him
>I'm really putting all my eggs into one basket on this one
>But it will all be worth it
>For it will allow me to argue with a rando on the internet!!

>> No.8968479

>>8966865
the japanese are the undisputed masters at hyping up and overselling the most basic shit

>> No.8968497

>>8966865
None of the above. Just a guy who loved toys and had the right idea about how to make a handheld game because he actually played with them.

>> No.8968502

>>8967579
You left out Yamauchi and Tezuka.

>> No.8968520

>>8968126
>allowed them to make the ultimate gaming form factor, switch
try harder

>> No.8968634

>>8968425
"left wing academia" is just a cope for why people stop voting republican once they get an education

>> No.8968871

>>8967906
>almond processing plant
Meme occupation. US manufacturing and tecj industry are fucking dead. Most engineering graduates will get paid less than their parents and grandparents were.

>> No.8968921

he was hit by a car so he couldn't have been that smart

>> No.8968934

>>8967385
>>8967419
>you will never play jackie chans action kung on a famiclone endorsed by him

>> No.8968950

>>8967262
imagine not knowing any facts but jumping to culture war taking points instead
bogeyman indeed

>> No.8968960

>>8967836
I studied a relevant field and it took me six fucking years to find a decent job that wasn't a temp/short contract

>> No.8969004

>>8968126
>invented game & watch
No, mattel invented LCD game and they had been making LCD games even before LCD was a thing (they used LED). Several other companies were already making watches that could play games too. G&Ws were nintendo's take on those gaming watches, and they were actually garbage for children with zero depth compared to the LCD games mattel were making.

>> No.8969029

>>8967902
>>8967906
I got a degree in CE but there's just no jobs here. I wish I could make games or something but there's just no opportunity at all. I don't understand this logic that we liv ein good times You could literally get hired in games with a totally unrelated degree before a walk-on. While now everything is so over-saturated there's no chance. I don't understand this 'row row america is the best and if you're not loving it then you're living wrong.'
Sometimes things are just bad. These are bad times. There's really no chance to live a desirable life at least for me.

>> No.8969037

>>8967220
It's more an American thing. They love the idea that some given expert is really a fraud waiting to be brought down a peg by a straight-shootin' sneed farmer. It comes down to their romanticisation of the little man.

>> No.8969046

>>8969037
Why do you talk like this man? Can't anything just be down to the individual? Or are you incapable of not grouping everything along cultural,racial, and political borders? Fuck me man.

>> No.8969063

>>8969037
Worshipping lucky frauds is THE american thing though. The american dream is a pyramid scheme.

>> No.8969076

>>8967497
but you DID pretend to be able to judge genius, which you cant obviously

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8969110

>>8968634
That made less sense than you thought.

>> No.8969116

>>8967262
shut up idiot

>> No.8969136

>>8969076
I actually like all the people I listed. I'm just making fun of contrarians.

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8969497

>>8968502
>Yamauchi
did you know Hiroshi Yamauchi wasn't actually a human being? He was a vessel that enclosed 7 yakuza oni spirits from 7 different regions in Japan. These oni monopolized the gambling in Japan with the hanafuda Nintendo cards and put a spell so that no other company could produce cards, truly evil.

Yamauchi, often referred to as "大魔王 ティラノ天堂" (Great Evil King Tyranotendo), tyranized the video games market with his monopolic practises, it is said that the Master System or the PC Engine didn't actually ever exist, and that they were invented time after so hide the fact that the Famicom was actually the one and only console existing in Japan.

>> No.8969507

>>8968634
you really believe this?
(((academia))) does nothing but turn people into globohomo big government tards
its very cringe

>>8969029
adjust your expectations
remember not everything you see on social media is real

EVERYONE has sadness and shortcomings in this life- people only shitpost the good times

>>8969116
hit a nerve?

>> No.8969513

>>8969063
wrong

you are just too retarded to run a small business

>> No.8969515

>>8968960
ok?
you think the second you graduate you get a 100K+ job in your field?

everyone starts low and works their way up the ladder anonkun

>> No.8969518

>>8968871
because libtards allow the feds to (repeatedly) print money and reduce the value of the dollar

there WILL be a cost
it will be passed on the the children of the zoomies & the united states will become somalia tier if nothing is done about it

>> No.8969523

>>8969507
i dont use social media
>adjust expectations
to what? what does that even mean?

>> No.8969528

>>8968095
Could you elaborate on the whole poisoned food thing?
-Though I already get the feeling your reaction is going to be cantankerous.

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8969539

>>8969515
Anon. Don't be obtuse on purpose.
And also don't lie. I know lying seems really tempting because it gets you everything you want in the short term, but it has a way of going wrong.

>> No.8969550

>>8969539
what are you on about?
what was i lying about?
why would i lie about this autistic shit?
on the slowest board of all time no less

>>8969528
glyphosate exposure
medical industrial complex
the entire food system is owned by 3-4 megacorps

you think they have your best interests in mind?

>> No.8969551

>>8969523
anonkun, your happiness in this life is decided by YOU and you alone; yes bad shit happens and things never turn out the way we want them to

what will you do?
give up and blame the rich?
or will you fight for what is yours and rise above?

show valor in the face of adversity not weakness and excuses like a child/woman

>> No.8969726

>>8969551
Do you think people have given up, by fighting back against oppressors who intentionally and deliberately try to keep them down? How is that MORE giving up than the giving up you're doing right now, delivering the defeatist brainwashed talking points they told you to for nothing to make sure you and your kind never, ever rise?

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8969815

>>8969550
Oh you're the same cunt.
Nevermind, opinion discarded.

>> No.8969906

>>8969815
>posts unfunny normie show
>remains uneducated
>remains a bigot
pottery

>> No.8969907

>>8969726
doing exactly what the MSM wants you to do sure is a strange way of resisting kek

>> No.8969924

>>8969726
>my opinion is the same as the tv
wew lad

>> No.8969947

>>8969551
dude you're literally not making any sense at all. What do you mean fight for what is mine? What are you talking about? Who is blaming the rich? What the fuck is your entire post?

>> No.8969973

>>8969947
you said you have no chance to live the life that you want, which is not only untrue- its absurd

>> No.8970013

>>8966940
>None, he was just a good engineer to suss out
>suss
get out of here with your retarded zoomer speak

>> No.8970062

>>8970013
youre the fucking retard. and you just outted yourself, zoomzoom

suss
[ suhs ]
verb (used with object)
Chiefly British Slang. to investigate or figure out (usually followed by out).
Origin of suss
First recorded in 1965–70;

turn off spongebob and learn some some english, faggot

>> No.8970089

>>8966865
he figured out that people want battery life not color. but even ignoring that, the things he did accomplish other than that were genius. Even the failures were brilliant.

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8970105

>>8966865
>just lucky

>> No.8970249

>>8970062
oof

still playing among us with your underage friends or...????

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8970281

>>8966865
Scapegoat and martyr

>> No.8970291

>>8970281
>one of its biggest fans
i have the complete library and even i wouldnt call myself the biggest fan

>> No.8970292

>>8970281
how different the industry would have been if he was still around

>> No.8970320

>>8970292
Yeah, imagine all the snake clones we could have had.

>> No.8970370

>>8970320
What does Gumpei Yokoi has to do with Metal Gear?

>> No.8970380

>>8970320
that game was insanely popular on the shitty phones everyone had at the time

it would have sold

>> No.8970809

>>8968520
People seem to like it

>> No.8970810

>>8969004
Thank you autismo, but I'm talking specifically about Nintendo's product, which apparently sold very well for them and made the Game Boy an easy transition for the company.

>> No.8971401

>>8967262
>>8967679
>>8968950
The weird shit is, what the fuck does boomer mean anymore, you zoomie retards have overused the word so much it's lost its meaning.
How about this, instead of blaming boomers and other boogie....persons....for all the evils of the world you live in, you actually acknowledge the role you have played in the fucked up state of the world is in.
You idiots no longer demand freedom and opportunity, not even innovation ffs and are content with staying at home consuming the same stupid device over and over again as long as it comes with a shinny new wrapping and the latest version of the (insert preferred social media name) application and is paid with hyper-inflating stimulus checks.
Yes zoomies boogermen or whatever have fucked up the world with hardwork and taking their chances, you keep it in a permanen state of ruin with your attitude and lack of self-awareness.

>> No.8971457

>>8970380
>that game was insanely popular on the shitty phones everyone had at the tim
because it was one of the only two or three available games on phones back then you retard

>> No.8971467

>>8967645
Nailed it on the head.

>> No.8971491

>>8967645
>hard work is its own reward
the copest cope that ever coped since cope came to copetown

>> No.8971508

>>8969515
>you're dissatisfied that it took six years to find a decent job? OBVIOUSLY THIS MEANS YOU WANT A 100 GRAND JOB RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE
(You)

>> No.8971540

>>8971457
>shitting on the peak game of handheld gaming

>> No.8971557

>>8971401
>BUT GUYS WHAT ABOUT SEMANTICS
you are the kind of people this meme was created for. Enjoy

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8971563

>>8966865
Gunpei Yokoi x Yukihito Morikawa – 1997 Developer Interview
>Morikawa: Yokoi, how do you feel about recent games?
>Yokoi: There’s a huge variety of console games out now, but to me, the majority of them aren’t actually “games”. The word “game” means something competitive, where you can win or you can lose. When I look at recent games, I see that quality has been declining, and what I’m seeing more and more of are games that want to give you the experience of a short story or a movie.

This is most obvious with role-playing games, where the “game” portion isn’t the main focus, and I get the feeling that the developers really just want you to experience the story they’ve written. So when you ask what I think of games today, well, it’s a very difficult question for me. I end up having to say that games today just aren’t games to me.

Holy shit Yokoi was as based as they come. He had bad ideas sure but he also had a ton of really good ideas. Focusing on making fun games>graphics and realism would have made the golden years of gaming last longer. Truly died to soon, rip Yokoi.

>> No.8971675

>>8971563
>where the “game” portion isn’t the main focus, and I get the feeling that the developers really just want you to experience the story they’ve written
-Gunpei Yokoi, the producer of Famicom Detective Club, 1997

>> No.8972305

>>8969973
When? You're so weird

>> No.8972308

>>8971401
>arguing in stereotypes and absolutes
Your argument crumbles. And I struggle to believe how a cohort whose average age is still under 18 can possibly be blamed for whatever you dislike about the world.

>> No.8972350

>>8972308
when i was 18 i had my own apartment and a full-time job
and a hot girlfriend

>> No.8972352

>>8971457
wrong again kiddo
even my shitmon that lacked a color screen had tetris and other games available for purchase

>> No.8972354

>>8971508
if it takes you half a decade to find a job you might wanna brush your teeth & work on your interview skills

>> No.8972717

>>8972350
Yeah but you're not an architect of society and law nor even a slight contributer

>> No.8972775

>>8972717
i pay more taxes than anyone in this thread