/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8960371
>Retro gaming on linux?
Yes.
>Any old gems? Just installed vcmi homm3 and wondering if there is more.
More re-implementations of classic game engines? There are a few. Here's one list:
https://osgameclones.com/

Here's Nox running in widescreen using the OpenNox engine.

The latest OpenNox release is 1.8.10, but anyone using Linux Mint 20.3 like me will probably want to use OpenNox 1.8.9, for now. I had been using 1.8.9 and it worked fine, but today I tried 1.8.10 and it fails to run because I don't have GLIBC 2.32. (Running `ldd --version` shows Mint provides GLIBC 2.31.) That's the risk of using a distro like Mint; you don't always have the latest packages. Frankly I'm too lazy to go install a newer GLIBC manually, and I'd rather just be one patch behind on OpenNox.

DOSBox is open source.
VirtualBox used to be pretty good, although not quite as good as older VMware, so you can just find a way to compile whatever was the latest version before 6.1 (they have dropped some XP support in there).
And there is always wine, which can be perfectly fine in some cases.

And here's Return to Castle Wolfenstein running with iortcw (https://github.com/iortcw/iortcw/).).
A lot of id Software's pre-ZeniMax-acquisition games were open-sourced and have long since been ported to Linux, despite the official releases on Steam, GOG, etc. invariably listing them as Windows-only.

>>8961195
>DOSBox is open source.
ScummVM too.

>Doom on Linux
soul
>Doom on Windows
soulless

>>8961195
>DOSBox is open source.
Almost any distro:
sudo apt update
sudo apt install dosbox

Right click DOS.exe file, and open in DOSBox.

I also recommend trying out Lutris. It's basically a front end/ loader for DOS, Wine, DXVK, emulators, it can connect to your GOG account, install games through Steam/ Wine Steam. Etc. But also, proton in Steam can do this as well.

Postal 1, 2 and Redux all have native ports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cio4Bx_9A8k

>>8961585
>Almost any distro
>apt
Don't you mean pacman?

JA2 Stracciatella

>>8961035
How do you install this?

>>8960371
If you have games on Steam, use Luxtorpeda-dev. it automatically installs sourceports to many older games, a list of games and their sourceports can be found on their github.
ScummVM might also be good to look into
obviously DOSbox as well.

>>8962332
Here's are the releases: https://github.com/noxworld-dev/opennox/releases
Find the release you want (probably the latest, v1.8.10, unless you have the same dependency issue described in >>8961035) and download the "OpenNox-linux-[...].tar.gz" file for that release (under "Assets"). Unpack that file (using "tar -xz" or whatever GUI tools your distro provides). There will be an "opennox" executable, as well as an "opennox-hd" executable supporting widescreen. Give yourself execute permission on those executables (using "chmod u+x" or some file properties menu). If you want to use the command line to install OpenNox v1.8.10 to, say, the directory "~/foo":

mkdir -p ~/foo
wget https://github.com/noxworld-dev/opennox/releases/download/v1.8.10/OpenNox-linux-v1.8.10.tar.gz -O- | tar -xzC ~/foo
chmod u+x ~/foo/opennox*

If you've unpacked OpenNox right into the directory where Nox itself was installed, it should just work if you execute it from the terminal with no additional arguments. Otherwise, you'll need to run it with the argument "-data" followed by the directory where the game is installed — e.g., if the Nox data is in the directory "~/bar":

~/foo/opennox -data ~/bar

>>8961681
I know you feel pretty cool for using arch but most distros are based on debian

>>8962754
>feel pretty cool for using arch
Lol no, I'm planning to switch to a systemdickless fork as soon as I stop being lazy. But hopefully you will not automatically assume that everyone uses a Debian-derived distro.

>>8962778
nobody did you fucking autist. anon just pointed out that most distros are based on debian.

>>8960371
How are jap cats so we'll behaved? My cat is a fuckin cunt. Been tempted to drop her off at the Chinese restaurant

>>8962529
>Nox itself was installed,
How do i get the game data on Linux?
I can't install it like a windows program.
Is it possible to use the NOX ISO for data extraction?

>>8962529
OpenRA for example automatically detects mounted ISO's and copies the music and videos over. It's a really good port btw.

https://www.openra.net/

Can OpenNOX do this?

>>8963414
The ISO's can legally be downloaded for free if anyone wants to play some OpenRA.

https://cncnz.com/features/freeware-classic-command-conquer-games/

>>8963408
>I can't install it like a windows program.
Wine

Why do people use Linux if they are absolutely unable to help themselves and search for solutions?
It's not an OS for people who can't find their own help and have to be spoon-fed constantly.

>>8963421
Is there another way to do it?
I don't want to use wine.

>>8963425
Why not?

>>8963426
Because i don't want a windows emulator on my computer.

>>8963429
It's not an emulator. Just install it temporary in a chroot or container, you don't have to actually install it on your OS or keep it, I don't see your problem, it's FOSS, it doesn't use Microsoft's files.
Maybe you should stick to macOS, you won't get much done being retarded.

>>8963437
>macOS
Never

>>8963408
Well, I ran GOG's Nox installer with Wine (and, before I knew about OpenNox, I used Wine to run the game). If you won't be running the game with Wine, then I understand not wanting to use Wine to install the game to a Wine prefix. You might be able to extract the game data from GOG's installer using a program called Innoextract; I know this works for many GOG games, but I haven't tried it for this one in particular, simply because in my case there was no need.
>>8963414
Not as far as I know.

>>8963847
>Innoextract
Thanks for this. I will test it and see if it works.

>>8963847
I can confirm that innoextract works with gog nox.

Playing Nox in widescreen HD is nice but its hard to see anything. Is there a way to scale the graphics while still rendering in HD?

Bump

>>8964187
Perhaps in a future update the developers can implement a mousewheel zoom function like they did in openRA.

>>8964805
What kind of games do you like?

>>8964187
There's an open issue for UI scaling.
https://github.com/noxworld-dev/opennox/issues/469
I assume that means it's not implemented.

>>8964187
>>8965938
In the worst case, if you just want widescreen but don't want everything tiny, could you just run in full-screen mode at a somewhat lower-than-native (but still widescreen) resolution and let it upscale? Or if that looks like shit, maybe you could upscale using something like gamescope (https://github.com/Plagman/gamescope)) if you want pixel-perfect integer upscaling or whatever, but I've never used gamescope myself.

>>8965020
I play everything as long its fun. Just played shitton neverball.

>>8960371
Anyone remember playing Sokoban on Linux around 1999-2000?
Discovering built-in games when I was not allowed to play anything was like finding heaven

>>8966479
The old devs secretly trained the youth to be hackers.

>>8966445
Doom 3 (you can get the pak files from the /doom/ general)

https://dhewm3.org/

Urban Terror (Quake 3 engine counter strike like game)

https://www.urbanterror.info/home/

>>8966445
Quake 1

http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/

Quake 2

https://www.yamagi.org/quake2/

(compile from source or install via package manager)

Doom

https://zdoom.org/downloads

>>8966881
Hexen II

http://uhexen2.sourceforge.net/

>>8966445
Hexen II

http://uhexen2.sourceforge.net/

>>8966445
Half-life and Counter strike, Portal and Portal 2 all have native linux ports on steam.

>>8966445
The dark mod (Stand alone theif clone in doom 3 engine, you dont need Doom 3)

https://www.thedarkmod.com/main/

GZDoom

Blade of Agony (Stand alone wolfenstein game)

https://boa.realm667.com/

Castlevania simons destiny (stand alone castlevania game)

https://batandy.itch.io/simonsdestiny

You dont need DOOM.WAD or DOOM2.WAD for these games, just load them into GZdoom and play.

>>8966445
All games made by frictional games have linux ports, you can get them on GOG.

Not retro but i highly recommend SOMA.

https://frictionalgames.com/

Cool

>>8960371
>Retro gaming on linux?
you should be fine,ive had to use a few alternative methods for a few games (like i had to use DOOM64 CE for DOOM64 over the port on steam,which always has some problem).
but i have not run into any unplayble games so id say it's pretty great,though i play mostly shooters and maybe mess with an emu every now and then.

>>8960371
Might and Magic VIII works fine with Wine.
Get the merger mod as well (VI and VII in VIII engine)

>>8968362
How good is wine?

>>8968406
pretty damn good these days, honestly. it sometimes runs old windows stuff better than modern windows actually does. I've had some problems with really weird esoteric stuff that just werks on xp such as 16 bit dos-like junk, but thats about it and dosbox is probably better for that anyway

>Can play old Windows games through wine better than Windows itself
>Can't play recent Linux games because of breakneck speed development leaving behind "obsolete" needed resources
I'm just a normie not a coder, Linux is better but it tries so hard to be some esoteric club

>>8968362
>Get the merger mod as well (VI and VII in VIII engine)
From what I remember there are changes to gameplay in that merger.

>>8962754
I literally just use arch because I like the AUR and I get more up to date packages, I'm not doing it because I think it's cool, or to join some neofetch meme, it's literally just preference. If NobaraOS used the AUR and was Arch based instead of Fedora based I'd be using that distro instead.

>>8968406
Just installed wine, right clicked the MM8.exe and it just worked

>>8968704
Obviously.
But then again you get mouselook

>>8969376
Ah, but of course, no sacrifice is too great on the altar of convenience.

>>8969475
Dunno man, if you're looking for a "pure" experience, I wouldn't consider a mod that uses a different engine in the first place.

>>8960371
The mario 64 port runs really well and any emulator you can think of is on linux. Just using the software manager is way more convenient than windows to find programs.

Sort of related but I had a hell of a lot of trouble trying to get the rom patcher called FLIPS running. First I needed to install python and then it wasn't the right version of python so I just tried running the windows version and that one needed some dot net thing which I got working and then it just didn't patch the roms. I think I just eventually just downloaded FLIPS from some SMW hacking site and just ran using sudo. Now it works but I couldn't compile it.

Am i right in thinking that a linux system should overall run games better? Windows is always full with shit in the background while linux is just you doing, right?
For example, minetest, should run better in linux as with windows on the same machine?

>>8970485
sometimes if its optimized as well,but its mostly trading blows,but for most older games,it should not be any substantial difference unless your machine is too old to run modern windows well.

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>>8970485
>Windows is always full with shit in the background while linux is just you doing, right?
run "top" in a terminal and see for yourself. It's less about the number of things running "in background" than how well those things are written.

In essence you could get any older PC game working on Linux via Steam and Proton or using something like Lutris or Bottles. Thanks to Valve's work on Proton you can play pretty much most games on Linux these days without any real hassle.

>>8970884
top is fine, but something like htop or btop is much more readable.

>>8970485
This also depends on your computer specs and which distro you use.

Debian with XFCE is going to use less RAM than something like Ubuntu.

>>8970485
Bunsenlabis a really good lightweight linux distro based on Debian.

https://www.bunsenlabs.org/

>>8971026
top is available out of the box, but yeah.

>>8971463
They're small enough programs to download so it ain't taxing.

>>8971061
I'd recommend ArchLabs over BunsenLabs these days. It's just BunsenLabs using Arch instead of Debian as a base, so you get all the aesthetics of Bunsen but with a much more up-to-date repo.

>>8960371
If you're using a Debian/Ubuntu-based distro for retro gaming, you might want to install game-data-packager. It makes installing some games (and their dependencies e.g. source ports) a bit easier. It only supports a finite set of games though.
https://wiki.debian.org/Games/GameDataPackager

Linux is a wonderfull system, i had never belief i would fall in love with it. Everything is different, hard and strange, like a different planet. Almost as if ayyys build this. The freedom and privacy that comes along with, is in fact something that changes your perspective. Hard to say why, its just feels right.
As more i learn about as more fun i have, as more opens the linux platform up and everyone should experience this. Basiclley, this is what PC means.
I wish game developers would focus more on linux, even give their older games a way to be played native on it.

>>8960371
I remember I actually installed linux for the very first time because Postal 2 came with native support.

>>8972639
I'm at the point now where I only boot up Windows as an absolute last resort, if a game has no Linux port and wont work with Wine. All my emulators have native Linux versions or libretro cores in RetroArch. I'm so close to just nuking my windows partition and finally washing my hands of Microsoft. Feels good man

>>8961440
Its the opposite; Doom was designed for DOS

>>8972967
Modern Windows isn't DOS. It has to emulate DOS just like Linux does.
>but--
I don't care lol

How does sim city perform in wine?

>>8973351
Sim city 4

>>8972639
>>8972874
Based.

>>8972874
>>8972639
Well, for just browsing it doesn't matter which OS you use.
For games I only use Windows for multiplayer games

>>8960371
tribes is on linux

>>8972874
Put all your solutions somewhere on a website so that people don't need to figure out what are the best program and setting combinations for games.

>>8960371
Since you like homm3 you will like this game.

https://www.gog.com/en/game/chaos_reborn

A remake of an old game that plays like a turn based strategy game with wizards that can summon creatures and cast spells. It's quite addictive you have been warned.

>>8974998
The developer also released a bunch of goodies for the game which you can download for free.

The Loremasters guide is highly recommended.

http://www.chaos-reborn.com/downloads

>>8961592
Lutris is good, but for retro games there's a new Desktop Edition of EmulationStation that's actually getting updates now, and can launch things other than RetroArch cores. So now I'm using Lutris to combine my modern libraries and setting up ES for emulators

>>8974634
>Put all your solutions somewhere on a website so that people don't need to figure out what are the best program and setting combinations for games.
>a website
Sounds like a job for PC Gaming Wiki. (Yes, Linux-related content is allowed. It's not Windows Gaming Wiki.) Too bad almost every Linux user is too much of a pussy to add a "how to make it work on Linux" section to a game's page. Until that changes, your best bet is ProtonDB, which is a good site in general but is horrible for this purpose. Reports are sorted chronologically and most do not actually explain anything, so you scroll and scroll and maybe you eventually find something useful, or maybe not.

>>8975384
A pastebin can also work.

>>8972967
all the sourceports for DOOM are based on the linux version.
>>8975384
most linux users use proton.db,so putting it on another wiki seems like a waste.

>>8975425
>most linux users use proton.db,so putting it on another wiki seems like a waste.
>another wiki
Except that ProtonDB is not a wiki and it sucks at doing a wiki's job. ProtonDB is good for two things: counting up how many people said a Steam game runs well on Linux, and wanking over it. It's not good for cataloging fixes. You'll find reports that mention fixes insofar as they relate to how well a game runs on Linux, but the site isn't organized in a way that facilitates looking up a game and immediately finding a detailed explanation of a specific fix. When you can look up a game on ProtonDB and find the answer you want immediately, it's not because ProtonDB is good for that. It's because someone just recently put the information there, and it didn't get buried under a dozen "works for me"/"doesn't work for me" reports yet.

>>8975556
not going to disagree.

>>8974998
>>8975043
A fantasy novel was written by on of the original writers for this game. It's rare to see so much care put into an indie game.

Bump for more linux love

>>8960371
Crystal Caves HD
Secret Agent HD
Monster Bash HD

Apogee classics in HD on GOG with linux support.

Cosmos cosmic adventure HD is coming next.

>>8960371
Norse mythology and Quest for Glory inspired adventure game with beautiful graphics and voice acting. Completely free.

https://radiant.itch.io/heroines-quest

>>8976334
Can vouch for it. I don't know how similar it is to the classics of the genre, but I liked it a lot and I've played it three times. And I keep thinking about giving another go but I remember it too well still.

>>8976616
They made other games for linux however they are not free.
A tale of two kingdoms is similar with a different setting / theme i think.

http://crystalshard.net/?p=1

I still think it's kinda weird how the Arch variant of Retroarch doesn't let you download cores in-client, though at least you can just download core files from it's buildbot repo and redirect your core path to the folder you put them in. Harder to update, but you can get access to the cores that aren't included in the Arch repos.

fheroes2

>>8976616
Quest for Glory 1-4 work perfectly in ScummVM. You should definitely check them out.

>>8976862
meant to >>8976616

>>8976760
If the quality across the board is the same might as well buy them and play them in a VM. As soon as I get out of a recurring "I'm fed up with fantasy" phase.

>>8976862
Yeah, I know that Sierra's quests are the golden standard. For some reason I never could really get into the genre, save for Gobliiins, DoT, Kyrandias and I think a few others I can't quite remember right now.

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>>8972639
shill

>>8977414
>>8960371
samefag

>>8960990
>literally reimplementing the game's engine as free software so you can just plugin the assets

fossfags can be impossibly based and chad when they want to

>>8977904
software freedom is always based,just many PC gamers call it modding and being against DRM and don't realize that it's almost the same thing.

Jagged Alliance 2 Stracciatella runs nice and smooth on Arch.

>>8977556
>>8977560
>waah waah I don't like this topic
so post elsewhere

Does linux have better ps2 emulation?

>Just found out that HoMM 3 Complete Edition is in the AUR
Sweet.

>>8978291
About the same as Windows, I guess. PCSX2 is the best PS2 emulator out there afaik, and the nightly builds have a Linux AppImage version. The shiny new UI everybody's raving about hasn't been rolled out to Linux yet though.

Speaking of, anybody else out there on Linux with PCSX2 installed, can you try launching a rom from the terminal with the --nogui option? When I try it I get some weird error, but when I launch games without --nogui they work just fine. I dunno if it's an issue with my install or if it's just something that's not working with the latest nightly build

>>8978291
No

This thread has convinced me /vr/ is simply better than /v/ — not because retro games are better, but because this thread has been up for days and still hasn't been shitposted into oblivion by an army of Windows shills and other morons. Is it because the subhuman behavior on /v/ comes from zoomers who aren't interested in /vr/? Or is it just because /v/ being a faster board incentivizes low-effort shitposting over actual discussion? I don't know but holy shit /v/ is awful. There was a Linux thread yesterday which was mostly civil for the short time it lasted, but that's rare.

This is windows xp twrritoru now xp gang rise ip

>>8960371
Some of locomalito's games have native linux ports.

Verminian Trap
Gaurodan
Maldita Castilla
EFMB

https://locomalito.com/

>>8960371
All of Infocom games and the many thousands of interactive fiction games can be played in the terminal with a program like frotz.

https://davidgriffith.gitlab.io/frotz/

>>8980205
aha

>>8980297
Maybe I should try those. It looks like there's also a Linux port of l'Abbaye des Morts: https://github.com/nevat/abbayedesmorts-gpl

For most of his games
>l'Abbaye des Morts
>The Curse of Issyos
>Darkula, Gaurodan
>Maldita Castilla
>Mutants from the Deep
>Solar Gladiators
>Verminian Trap
I was able to run the Windows versions using Wine 5.0 (yes it's old but it's what Linux Mint provides via APT and I'm lazy) and they worked perfectly, but with some of his games
>8Bit Killer
>EFMB
>Hydorah
>Verminest
>Viriax
I had audio problems (like missing music or sound effects).

>>8961592
I haven't had much luck with Lutris. Out of about a dozen Gog games I tried, haven't got anything playable after days of fiddling. Most games won't install without hours of googling obscure error messages, installing extra fonts, even had to temporarily disconnect my second monitor just to get Freespace 2 to install for some weird reason. And even once I've managed to get the games installed without an error message, absolutely nothing will launch no matter what I do. Gamehub worked about the same (ie not at all)
Not a big deal I guess, Steam games are relatively painless to get working, and RetroArch works flawlessly, so between those two I've got more games than I'll ever be able to play anyway.

OpenXCom

>>8980297
>>8980445
>Verminian Trap
>Gaurodan
>Maldita Castilla
>EFMB
I tried the Linux versions of these on Linux Mint 20.3, and they all fail to run because they require libssl.so.1.0.0 (which I assume is very outdated). Steam provides that library in its Linux runtime folders though, so I'll try making use of those.

>>8980489
When it comes to those openconversion games i always fail to get the required game data from the windows installers.
Is there no piracy site just for this?

>>8980205
yea,im one opf those hippies that are like "le good games are good games,no matter the age", and /vr/ being way better holds true,ive even had consistently better discussions on nu-DOOM on /vr/ (and that stuff is off-topic and should be theoretically more negative,though i don't start the discussions,just to be clear)

>>8980596
Download GOG versions and use innoextract?
GOG games are easy to pirate for windows.

https://constexpr.org/innoextract/

>Windows GOG games
https://gogunlocked.com/

>>8980812
>innoextract
Yeah, that one went over my head. Don't understand what to do here.

>>8980596
Search archive.org or get the windows GOG version and use a tool like innoextract to get the data for linux sourceports.

This worked for Nox already mentioned in this thread.

>GOG Data extractor
https://constexpr.org/innoextract/

>>8980820
What don't you understand?
It's very easy to use.
Run in the terminal where your gog game.exe install is.

>>8980820
Once you have extracted the data you need to copy it into your sourceport folder where the sourceport binary is located and run it like you would run a script.

./game

Quick follow-up to >>8980593 now that I've had a minute to sit down without my 3-year-old kid trying to climb on my lap and hit random keys:
Using the shared libraries provided by Steam does work, at least for the Linux version of Maldita Castilla. Whereas just executing
>./runner
gives me the "error while loading shared libraries" failure, running
>LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/lib/i386-linux-gnu ./runner
works, and so does adding the game to Steam and selecting Steam Linux Runtime as the compatibility tool.
I'll drop the subject now because the game is fake retro. But I would expect the same to work for other native Linux games which demand outdated dependencies, so it might be helpful for running retro Linux games in general.

>>8960371
Quite a few of id tech 4 engine games also have native linux installers.

https://icculus.org/prey/

I think ET:QW also works correctly out of the box but its not open source.

https://www.splashdamage.com/games/enemy-territory-quake-wars/

Doom3 modern sourceport

https://dhewm3.org/

Forget about Quake 4, that game is a pain in the ass to get running correctly.

>>8980596
Make an MS-DOS or Windows 95 virtual machine, install stuff in there, copy stuff from the VM to where you need it. You can mount the disks from a virtual machine on your host when the guest is not running.

>>8980976
>>8960371
The loki installers are out of date but if you happen to have an older computer with an older linux distribution installed they should still work.

https://lokigames.com/

I belief that the OS Linux was build/developed by actual Aliens from outter space.

>>8981064
https://archive.org/download/loki-linux-game-isos

>>8980976
I'm confused how there is still no source port for prey
imagine the custom levels and other stuff that could be possible
I blame it on purely being obscure

>>8981075
Sim City 3000 for LInux? OK!

>>8981083
It installs and runs correctly.
You may have to change some setting in the game config file.

I don't think it has widescreen support though, im not sure, its been awhile since i last played it on linux with the installer i posted.

>>8981105
there's widescreen support just not for the hud
my point is there's so much possible you could do with prey but that's not mentioning the terrible 60 fps cap

>>8981130
I think the cap is tied to the id tech 4 engine.
The dhewm3 sourceport is also capped.
Only BFG edition can run at 120fps, but that version is inferior compared to the original game.

>>8981130
Prey was an amazing game.
The best of the id tech 4 engine games in some ways. A real shame that is has become obscure.

What is the best 3d shooter i can download from the software manager(flatpak)?

>>8981141
pretty sure you can uncap dhewm 3 com_fixedTic -1 i forget if it causes any issues but I played through it entirely fine but it honestly makes no sense how after all this time a game like that has no source port when the code is even open too but otherwise id tech 4 had a lot of soul and the dark mod is great too

>>8981171
I tried that but it breaks the game.
Everything runs too fast.

>>8981181
Well that's a shame but it's kinda crazy how doom 3 looks modern with just a few mods

>>8981223
There is a sourceport for BFG edition.
Not as good as dwhem3 but it runs at 120fps.

https://github.com/RobertBeckebans/RBDOOM-3-BFG

>>8981239
I mean it's kinda pointless since all the mods are on og doom 3 it's really a shame how anything past the early 2000s kinda got out of hands for modders and source ports
I can only remember half life consistently getting mods

>>8981275
Best option would be to play on a 60hz monitor as intended. Many modern console games that are released in the current year run at 30fps or sometimes even lower with subpar resolutions which is kind of ridiculous.

>>8981275
You could try and run original doom 3 with wine and mods, haven't tried it myself but it should work.

>>8980976
Forgot about this game.
id tech 3 engine.

https://www.splashdamage.com/games/wolfenstein-enemy-territory/

>>8980976
I hate game publishers.

>>8981535
at least you can download it for free without giving a shit

>>8980593
>>8980890
Wait, why is a single-player game using SSL at all? Isn't that a network thing?
>firejail --net=none --noblacklist=${HOME}/.steam --env=LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${HOME}/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/lib/i386-linux-gnu ./runner
No phoning home for you!

>>8981773
This is true. If they really want to say "NOOOO PLEASE DON'T GIVE US YOUR MONEY" then it's not my problem. But it's still obnoxious to remove games from Steam permanently for bullshit reasons like "ummm we ran out of keys lol, sorry the game's dead forever"

>>8981535
i feel like there's no way any of this is true. this image even looks like a shitty site
bethesda just didnt buy the original game, just the franchise name. i guess you can still hate game publishers for that though.

>>8981823
Yeah that's what capitalist corporations do. They destroy things they cant sell instead of giving it away for free.

>>8981836
The actual reason doesn't really matter, because there's no such thing as a good reason. Any possible "reason" ultimately boils down to game publishers being scum. But yes, if the specific reason they ran out of keys to sell was that Bethesda bought the trademark without buying the right to generate more keys, then that does make them even worse.

>>8976826
you have to modify a config file for it to let you download and update cores from within retroarch
check the arch wiki

im on fedora and its the same

>>8982702
Oh, well then. Had no idea this was something you could do. Retroarch on Arch became just so much better thanks anon.

I run Linux on my daily driver and I've had a lot of success in getting old games to work. I've even managed to get Sims2 to work flawlessly under Lutris. It only occurred to me later that Sims2 is apparently a really difficult title to get working on Windows because the Devs at the time did some crazy fuckery regarding graphics, making only period-correct hardware could play it.

>>8983119
Yeah Wine deals with older games way better then current Windows does. Wine-GE-Custom is a gift from the tech gods tbqh.

How to actually install wine, what version, frontend.
Lutris seems not to like mint OS?

>>8983518
I couldn't get lutris to work for shit. I had better luck with "Heroic Games Launcher" for Gog. Steam works best by itself

>>8960371
There's a ton of retro vidya software on Linux from DOS emulation via DOSbox, Wine and basically any major console system released from the 80's up until the 6th gen (and even some non-retro ones like that PS3 emulstor I forget amd Xenia along with Steam's Proton compatibility layer). The sky's the limit with retro gaming with Linux.

>>8966479
My nigga. My dad installed Linux on one of the home computers around 2003, when I was 7 and I remember playing this shit and Tron whenever I could. Now I'm on Ubuntu 20.04 basically doing the same shit but with better software.

>>8983518
>mint
To install Wine on Linux Mint, you'll want to run "sudo apt install wine-installer" (instead of just "sudo apt install wine") if I remember correctly. The wine-installer package installs wine as well as some other libraries you'll need.
See https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/wine-installer

>>8983950
>To install Wine on Linux Mint, you'll want to run "sudo apt install wine-installer" (instead of just "sudo apt install wine") if I remember correctly. The wine-installer package installs wine as well as some other libraries you'll need.
What the fuck went so wrong with Mint that its package manager can't just pull all the dependencies?

>>8984010
I'm not sure what the deal is with wine vs wine-installer. Maybe the extra things installed by the latter aren't strictly dependencies. Maybe they're just recommended and wine-installer is there for convenience...? I can't think of any other programs that have a weird meta installer package like that in Mint.

>>8983518
wine-ge-custom is my personal favorite version of Wine. Lutris and Bottles are the current best frontends for it.

This tbread still up?

>>8983918
Every single DOS game ever made.
There is a linux patch.

Tux does what Windont.

https://www.retro-exo.com/exodos.html

GNU is just halfhuman evolution, linux is full blown ayy tech.

>>8960371
I use EndeavourOS as my daily driver. Just finished playing the Lunar games on RetroArch Flatpak.

Next up are Grandia 1+2.

>>8984774
Why is flatpak the only software manager with up to date stuff?

>>8983918
My dad would usually install Windows NT as punishment, one day I saw that there was an option to boot into Red Hat, that's how I found these games.
Funny how far Linux has come since then.

>>8984413
Except they are both just overengineered OSes at this point that both are capable of the same shit. Ever OS sucks, the sooner you learn that, the easier it is for you to get back to using your computer as a tool and not fanboy the software it runs.

>>8984413
>doesn't support wayland
Tux can't even do well inside it's own community lol

>>8971473
>ArchLabs
Holy shit. I love Bunsenlabs, but I never realized this was a thing. I might have to give it a shot.

>>8986436
Go with Openbox as your WM for the true Bunsen experience.

>>8984774
>Using Flatpak
>On something with Arch as a base
Why? You could just download Retroarch from the Arch repos.

do you guys use dosbox or dosbox staging?
i installed wine on fedora and it installed dosbox staging as dependency

So, gzdoom just got updated.
Anybody tried it out yet?

>>8985828
I wonder how much work eould be necessary to port some of them to modern versions of Linux. I guess it depends on their dependencies, but some of them might not be available anymore.

>>8985838
Wayland is a dead project trying to replace what essentially isn't broken for 99.99% of use cases on the average Linux user. X works fine so why fix what isn't broken?

>>8986701
Not yet but I'll be using it next time I run Doom.
I get automatic updates from here: https://debian.drdteam.org/
I'm not at my Linux machine at the moment, but (based on https://debian.drdteam.org/dists/stable/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages)) it looks like that repo already has 4.8.0 which I assume is the new version.

Commander wars
https://github.com/Robosturm/Commander_Wars/releases

>>8986701
>gzdoom just got updated
Huh?
Their website still has version 4.7.1

https://zdoom.org/downloads

>>8988131
https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/releases

>>8964187
Did you just extract the files with innoextract setup_nox_2.0.0.20.exe and then point opennox to the app folder ? or do you have to install it after this?

>>8988403
innoextract only extracts the data, look in the innoextract/app folder.

It's like extracting a tarball or unzipping a zip file.

Once you have extracted the data copy or move it into your Nox folder, where the sourceport is located.

Then run the program.

Extract
Copy
Play

>>8988403
Copy the extracted data into you extracted opennox folder then run opennox.

>>8988403
dont copy the app folder, only whats inside it.

>>8988131
It's updated now.

>>8988504
>>8988520
>>8988526
Thanks guys, got it working! Man this takes me back, used to play this twentyish years ago...

>>8989563
Congrats, have fun its a great game.

>2 weeks
>thread still up
anons!

>>8988027
Nice Advance Wars clone.

>>8989779
yea,it's based.

>>8989779
it's been shockingly civil for a 4chan thread, too

>>8990095
i find that people on 4chan are alot nicer when they feel like it's an easy option,a thread on /v/ is all toxicity all the time,so there is no choice.

>>8989779
Linux and retro games is like peanut butter and chocolate. Though even now with Valve's work on Proton even modern games are easy to play.

Best Bread on /vr/.

>>8990150
look at this

>>>/v/601624879
>>>/v/601624879
>>>/v/601624879

first post says everything.

>>8990356
Linux threads on /v/ are somewhat common (and in fact there are three right now >>>/v/601567353 >>>/v/601623359 >>>/v/601624879 but that's a bit unusual). The thing is, nothing on /v/ lasts for days, because the board is too fast. They necessarily die in a few hours even if they're active. As for civility >>8990095, even a Linux thread on /v/ can be shockingly civil, depending on which of the board's resident schizos happen to be online. I'm convinced that there are a small number of /v/ users who just make a hobby out of shitposting Linux threads to hell. Because some days a Linux thread will get hundreds of replies with hardly any anti-Linux nonsense, and other days it will be a complete and total shitshow. If a few people would just fuck off then Linux discussion on /v/ would be better off. Even so, I hope Linux threads on /vr/ become a semi-regular occurrence, because /vr/ is more in line with most of the games I enjoy playing these days anyway.

>>8990389
>bit unusual
same, something is changing, can't really put my finger on it. maybe we are on the edge of a new timeline shift?

>>8960371
Heretic 2 and Sacred had Linux ports, for example. Back in the day, and they were official. Most of the source ports today have Linux versions, if that is what you are talking about, and Wine is widely considered better for retro gaming than modern Windows. Or you are looking specifically for old Linux games?

>>8990397
>Sacred had Linux ports
and Sacred Gold? Steam tells me its not supporting linux.

>>8990401
Yes. https://www.linuxgamepublishing.com/info.php?id=37
But i think it is most likely can't be purchaced anymore, so your options are running Windows versions through Wine (there are community patches for widescreen and other things), or pirating it. I once even found the torrent somewhere.

>tfw Super Tux 2

>>8990356
Advertising decent threads on shitty boards usually leads to not only said threads being shitposted to death, but the board as a whole suffering from bored wannabe trolls craving some attention for at least days.

>>8960990
>using chickentrannyware

raze is a horrible POS and runs shit on low end hardware.
if i wanted to play blood, i just compile nblood itself.

>>8990578
Works for me. Good to know NBlood runs better on toasters though. I'll keep that in mind if I ever install Linux on (or otherwise try to revive) my shitty old Windows 7 laptop.

>>8990659
Yeh, don't touch any of graf's ports if you wanna play on reasonable hardware.

If you wanted to play doom, i suggest either lzdoom (or drfrag's legacy zdoom forks) or prboom.

>>8990356
>>>/v/601624879
>over two weeks
??

>>8990991
2weeks is a meme, anon....

>>8991084
never heard of it

>>8986515
I use DOSBox Staging. I've never seen any DOSBox installed as a dependency for Wine though. So that's new I guess.

>>8992257
Probably just a recommended package, OpenSUSE installs DOSBox Staging too when you install WINE.

>>8990490
And STK!

>>8990578
to be fair,it is the easiest way to play these games with hardware accel.

Why does emulation run better on linux?

Just tried out Dolphin and it just worked out of the box. I remember when setting it up for windows, running into a lot of problems from crackling sound and random lags.

>>8993171
if you're on AMD or intel,thank mesa drivers.
if you're on Nvidia,i have no clue.

>>8993178
Nvidia

>>8993183
then i have no clue.
what card?
Nouveau or proprietary?

>>8993171
Because a majority of Linux distros include the Mesa graphics driver, which gives native OpenGL support. So a majority of emulators that use it by default will just werk.
For NVIDIA, you need the nvidia-utils package which comes with the nvidia driver itself as a dependency that gives OpenGL and Vulkan support. With AMD and Intel it's a lot more simple thanks to the open source nature of their Linux drivers compared to NVIDIA's closed source ones.

>>8983950
>Wine
have a noob question, so i install "sudo apt install wine-installer" and then i install playonlinux?

>>8993302
>native OpenGL support.
Ok, this makes sense.

>>8993321
Lutris or Bottles have basically superseded PlayOnLinux.

>>8990490
i beat it recently, it was a very fun little game
i wasn't particularly interested in playing all the addons though, i guess i should because i would love them

>>8993386
It's truly classical Linux gaming. The game that every Linux user had on their PC aside from stuff like Frozen Bubble or Super Tux Kart, or maybe anything from the KDE game stable that all have the Windows 9x/XP stank on them in the best way possible.

Installed anno 1602 with playonlinux, worked like a charm. No problems what so ever.
But how do i get into fullscreen? Already unticked the "run in virtual desktop" box, but i get the error something something 256 colors?

>>8993171
>>8993183
Less bloat? Easier to emulate features because under win you'd need backward compatibility DLL functions which get steadily dropped with each release?

bump

>>8992709
I guess that makes sense, MS-DOS being the precursor to Windows or whatever. Or maybe I'm dumb. In any case it's nice that they use DOSBox Staging instead of the upstream DOSBox which hasn't been updated in a million years.

>>8961592
for gog stuff I've had better luck just running the galaxy installer through proton as a non steam game and then installing them from there.

>>8960371
OpenLieroX
Port of the old DOS classic.

https://www.openlierox.net/

>>8960371
Jump n Bump
Freeware DOS classic has a linux port and a sequel on steam.
Great single screen multiplayer fun.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1012450/HopSquash/

>>8995941
https://icculus.org/jumpnbump/

>>8960371
Platformer game with very nice graphics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SYAcXnWc2M

Windows and Mac versions you have to pay for, Linux version is free

https://frogatto.com/

>>8960371
Another port of another DOS classic

https://cxong.github.io/cdogs-sdl/

>>8995953
>Windows and Mac versions you have to pay for, Linux version is free
kek. Based

These look nice, I'll try them later

>>8995953
>>8995953
Frogatto really has some nice assets, why its not more popular, idk. Must have.

>>8995953
>Linux version is free
I don't see a free download on the official site -- just a link to the engine source (presumably no assets), and a button to purchase the game. So this looks more like a case of "used to be free" if you want the current version of it.

>>8996404
Try installing with apt or whatever package manager you use.

>>8996404
sudo apt-get install frogatto

>>8996404
You are a strange anon. If you had linux, you would know it was in the software manager. What an odd post.

>>8995953
>Please note: Frogatto automatically uploads anonymous usage data while you play (if you are connected to the internet), to help us improve the quality of the game.
i hope there's a way to disable this.

>>8996404
Is this one of those gpt-a.i. ots acting like anon?

>>8997584
>ots
I ean bots

>>8997506
Disable your internet connection?
Or block it in your firewall.
When you post on 4chan you are voluntarily uploading anonymous usage data.

>>8997506
You could try running it with "firejail --net=none" as in >>8981812.

>>8996675
>>8996684
>>8997202
>>8997584
Damn, chill out. I wasn't able to check it before because I was posting from my phone, lol.
There is still, though, no indication on the official site that the Linux version (including assets) is free, which is why I assumed whatever version still exists in Linux repos is an older version than what the dev is trying to sell, hence the use of the phrase "current version" in my earlier post, not that any of you reached the end of it before getting buttmad. As it turns out, my assumption was probably wrong, as the version in Linux Mint's repo is 1.3.1 and the version on the site is just labeled 1.3. So maybe the developer just doesn't want to advertise that it's free on Linux for whatever reason. I don't care anymore, I just thought it was weird.
I just installed it, gonna play it after I take a shower.

how does scummvm works on linux?
if i download a windows game that is supported by it, can i play it just scummvm without wine?

>>8998847
It works like an emulator, load the data into scummvm like a rom and play. You don't need wine.

>>8998847
Some games for you to try

https://www.scummvm.org/games/

>>8998847
And the help guide

https://docs.scummvm.org/en/latest/use_scummvm/add_play_games.html

>>8998847
>how does scummvm works on linux?
Same as on Windows.
>if i download a windows game that is supported by it, can i play it just scummvm without wine?
Yes. There is a native Linux version of ScummVM. Install that. If you've installed a game that came bundled with the Windows version of ScummVM, you can disregard the included `scummvm.exe` and just load the required game data into the Linux version of ScummVM.

If it's one of the few Steam game that only came with ScummVM for Windows, you can use the compatibility tool Roberta (https://github.com/dreamer/roberta)) to swap out Windows ScummVM for the Linux version automatically. (Roberta also works for some ScummVM-compatible games that come packaged with DOSBox, like Phantasmagoria.) You could also run the Windows version of ScummVM with Wine or Proton but there's no need.

>>8960371
Sphincter the kitten 2 is kino. Linux exclusive catformer.

>>8997875

>>8960371
Play uqm, it's in your package repos

>>9001240
ok. Am I going to enjoy this if I know absolutely nothing about Star Control?

>>9001683
Probably. It is a classic and the fan-made remasters have improved upon it.

>>8997953
This image proves you are not a bot, but on the other hand, the try hard proving i am human makes it suspioues again.

>>9001683
http://www.highprogrammer.com/alan/games/video/uqm/index.html

Bump neolemminx runs perfect on wine, manual installation.

Related: >>9003510

Emergency bump

>>9003752
Of course it does, its afterall just a virtual machine.

>>9005662
>just a virtual machine
Wine or GZDoom? I can't tell what you're shitposting about

>>9006156
wine

I suppose this is only tangentially retro, but it's a shame that Nightdive stopped doing native Linux ports. Their Linux version of Turok was fine, and I assume the rest were as well. But then Proton happened, and I guess they figured Proton ports were pointless after that... which would be reasonable if their Windows games actually worked perfectly with Proton, but not all of them do. (I ran Doom 64 with Proton yesterday and it stutters like hell. Apparently the fix is to replace one of the game's DLL files. I didn't need to fuck around with Turok to make it run correctly.)

I can blame Bethesda for Doom 64 and Quake Enhanced, because Bethesda obviously hates Linux, but that doesn't account for all of Nightdive's recent games.

I suppose this is only tangentially retro, but it's a shame that Nightdive stopped doing native Linux ports. Their Linux version of Turok was fine, and I assume the rest were as well. But then Proton happened, and I guess they figured Linux ports were pointless after that... which would be reasonable if their Windows games actually worked perfectly with Proton, but not all of them do. (I ran Doom 64 with Proton yesterday and it stutters like hell. Apparently the fix is to replace one of the game's DLL files. I didn't need to fuck around with Turok to make it run correctly.)

I can blame Bethesda for Doom 64 and Quake Enhanced, because Bethesda obviously hates Linux, but that doesn't account for all of Nightdive's recent games.