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8954940 No.8954940 [Reply] [Original]

Did we decide on which one is the 3rd best Evangelion game? Obviously Eva 64 and GoS take the first and second spot, but what's the 3rd one? 2nd Impression?

>> No.8955029

>>8954940
Dont care shit anime

>> No.8955057
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>>8955029
your mean words made Shinji-kun cry, anon. Don't be an asshole.

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>>8954940
There is no good eva game.

>> No.8955129

>>8955057
CRYING IS ALL THAT FAGGOT DOES

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>>8955107
filtered

>> No.8957253
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>>8954940
My favorite Eva games are the strip mahjong titles on PC. I also like the card/logic games more too. Iron Maiden is one of my favorite visual novels. Admittedly, I have not played the N64 game though.

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>> No.8958846
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>>8957253
have you played the mahjong instrumentality project GBC game? It's not strip but it has pretty good sprite-based cutscenes.
>>8957362
what is this monstrosity?
>gainax sticker
lol, whoever did this put some serious effort into it. love it.

>> No.8958995

>>8954940
I was really excited to try some Eva games on my Saturn once I got the ODE put in, but then realised there's just a visual novel/card collecting game :(
I thought if ANYTHING would have a cool (even janky fun) Eva game it would be Saturn.

>> No.8959012

Unofficial but there is a fun but janky evangelion conversion mod for unreal tournament made by some French group. It’s actually enjoyable because the maps are to scale with the evangelion units you play as. Anyone ever play that? With some new maps I think it would be fun online.

>> No.8959019

>>8959012
BTW the one I’m talking about is called EVARENA

I think the dev abandoned it, is it possible for someone to add new maps to this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O3Ersns6C-M

>> No.8959034

>>8959019
Evanjankyon

>> No.8959037

>>8959034
It’s called soul, like the old quake 3 maps/skins

>> No.8959067

>>8955129
>CRYING IS ALL THAT FAGGOT DOES
Nah, he also grabbed his momma's tiddies

>> No.8959079

I’d love an EVA tactics game

>> No.8959140

>>8959079
Instead of the rebuild garbage I think it would have been cool if they found a way to retroactively add some episodes that chronologically would have taken place inbetween the episode in the tv series.
They could have with creative and clever writing introduced some new angels potentially, or expanded on the Eva 03 and 04 lore/ American side of things. frankly I just wish they never made rebuild because it seems like a missed opportunity. And the series as it stands I don’t think has enough material in it for a tactics game.

>> No.8959161
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>>8958995
The card collecting game is actually worth completing if you're an Eva fan.
The visual novel game you're probably thinking of is Iron Maiden, but that was originally a PC game, then ported (and censored) on PS1 and Saturn.
Then there's the very first Eva video game (simply called NGE also known as "First Impression") on Saturn, from 1996, and a sequel called Second Impression that basically makes what >>8959140 says. It introduces new plot elements within the original series, a new character (Mayumi) and new angels.
Iron Maiden also does this but since it was made in Gainax in-house, it's more faithful to the original series, has higher production values and there's no new angels (that would disrupt the original script of the series), instead it focus more on the human drama between Nerv and other paramilitary groups.
Anyway, First and Second Impression for Saturn have some RPG battle elements to them but it's not the best there is, still a neat curiosity. Then Saturn also got ports of the PC mahjong games (Shinji and good friends, with characters from Nadia, Gunbuster, etc).
IMO the best Eva game is the N64 one, it's the one that feels the most like a proper "Eva: the video game", with pick up and play arcade style gameplay and a great faithfulness to the series.

>> No.8959185

>>8954940
>Eva 64 and GoS take the first and second spot
This selection is mournful. I suppose it goes in line with the show.

>> No.8959195

>>8959185
Eva 64 might just be a glorified remake of the SNES Ultraman game, but it looks amazing for 5th gen hardware, one of the better looking games from that gen, the presentation is top notch.
GoS is a quality visual novel, even if you don't like VNs personally.

>> No.8959660

>>8959161
Thanks for the info, I am a fan of Eva but not sure if I like it enough that I would go for a card collecting game. Is that the one that has the RPG lite elements? If there's a fan translation I might try it out sometime.

>> No.8959678

>>8959079
The Eva units show up in some of the Super Robot Wars games, don't they? At least one of them, I'm pretty sure.

>> No.8960315

>>8959678
Yeah but he is saying he wants it to be an Eva themed game not just cameo appearances. I don’t think there is enough in the Eva universe to facilitate an Eva only strategy game without doing weird shit that isn’t canon and making new enemies and units or something.

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>> No.8960342

>>8960341
What the fuck is this mugen? what is that weird super smash brothers one called on ps2? Battle orchestra or something weird. Is that any good?

>> No.8960348

There is literally no anime that is good unless you are autistic enough to enjoy it.

>> No.8960373

>>8960348
>an ENTIRE medium is bad because it comes from Japan! btw I'm browsing a japanese website and giving money to a japanese guy hehe

>> No.8960401

>>8959019
>m.youtube

>> No.8960404
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>>8958846
Only briefly tried it some via the Gamcube's Gameboy player. Aside from the TurboExpress and NeoGeo Pocket Color, I didn't really play portable titles. The cover was what drew me in to getting the game from Book Off.

>> No.8960429
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>>8959012
I never thought about it, but it's true that there are enough guns and long range combat in Eva to make a decent FPS out of it.
>>8959161
>>8959660
1st Impression was also released as "Episode X" on DVD. It's mostly recycled footage from the series, but the voice actors are the same.
https://youtu.be/rKeRB8sgq3E

>> No.8960445

>>8960401
Oh, I add the m. manually. : ) don’t worry about that.

>> No.8960465

>>8960404
So you live in Japan?

>> No.8960470

>>8960404
>double helix literally composed of gamepieces
>gambling literally in their dna

What did they mean by this

>> No.8960480

>>8959067
there was also that one time that he got in the fucking robot iirc

>> No.8960484

>>8960470
well the game is called "Mahjong Instrumentality Project", they want to turn humanity into mahjong literally.

>> No.8960485

https://twitter.com/scenik8/status/1370942629265870850

>> No.8960494

>>8960484
Why does evangelion have such souless or bizarre cheap feeling licensed spin off titles?

>> No.8960504

>>8960494
eva is the equivalent of disney shit in japan its just used to make products and use the brand to sell it.

>> No.8960505

>>8960494
Wouldn't say it's soulless, it's mixing Mahjong (a popular game over there) with the series' own lore, the Humanity Instrumentality Project.
What title would you suggest?

>> No.8960509

>>8960504
I don't think USA has an equivalent to Evangelion, actually.
But if I had to think of a "japanese disney" that's probably either Tezuka (if we're talking golden age Disney only) or Ghibli (if Disney wasn't run by jews)

>> No.8960515

>>8960504
Oh I forgot about all of those Disney themed licensed pornography games and dating sims

>> No.8960518

>>8960505
it’s just weird that it’s mahjong, it’s like halo Tetris. Metroid pinball is stupid but sort of gets a pass for making fun of the fact samus turns into a ball. it isn’t really just the fact it’s mahjong though, I have the impression there are like 50 Japan only evangelion games that maybe a few thousand people ever bought because they’re obscure and weird shit like pubic hair simulators

>> No.8960519

>>8960509
Eva is literally just a brand look at any brand the USA that is flogged on any product it's the same thing.
You can buy anything from cups, towels, chopsticks, watches, lighters anything with the eva brand on it,
Its a huge money making thing in japan. Its hugely disrespectful to the fanbase but no one cares because thats all its about making money.

>> No.8960524

>>8960509
Kind of sad that Disney turned into something so different than the creator ever could have envisioned

>> No.8960525

>>8960515
yeah well it wouldn't be another country if they didn't do things differently. Btw a lot of the merch is blatantly fujo pandering, despite the creators saying shinji and kawuro isnt gay. So the merchandisers knowingly explout that even though it isnt true

>> No.8960526

>>8960519
I’ve always found it weird that there was allegedly a demand for so much Eva themed garbage, when I doubt even the average japanese viewer understood the ending or half of the show. I just don’t see the average japanese house wide or salary man buying that stuff.

If that demand really is there it’s even more baffling that it took like two decades to make rebuild, and then rebuild itself was such a garbage fire that literally no one asked for or wanted

>> No.8960532

>>8960526
Rebuild exists purely to hawk more garbage, probably why Anno was absolutely disgusted with it in the end and wanted out.
The japanese idea of consumerism is far more aggressive than in the west.

>> No.8960534

>>8960519
>Its hugely disrespectful to the fanbase
I don't see it that way, and you might say that any IP that has merchandising is "disrespecting the fanbase"... it's just capitalism. If anything, it's neat that a series like Evangelion (originally rejected because it didn't seem very "toy-selling" from sponsors' point of view) get to be big despite having unconventional robot designs and psychological ramblings instead of formulated MOTW structure.

>> No.8960536

>>8960526
oh yeah the funny thing is the merch isn't even aimed at otaku, its aimed at women, and is designer brand crap.
Its like if Doom was suddenly put on every product you can think of and marketed to women.
Its completely calculated to make money.
Remember Rei was famously called premium girl or something like that. On account of how much money she pulled from merchandise.

>> No.8960538

>>8960532
I thought that rebuilds retarded writing was anno’s doing?? wasn’t all of the retarded shit new crap he thought of?

I thought rebuild 1 was okay because it still at the start felt close enough to the original show for a while, just with new content added. I think after finishing 2 I never watched 3 or 4.

I still say they would have been better off trying to make prequel or side story material instead of a different timeline or whatever the fuck that was. As long as the finished product was really really good I wouldn’t even have cared if they retconned a few minor details just to make everything fit together as long as it felt like it expanded the universe in a well done way.

>> No.8960545

>>8960538
Literally was just a job like a contract to make amazon a series kek

>> No.8960554

>>8960536
Rei was the best choice so that makes the most sense out of everything you posted.

>>8960534
I think it’s a brand image thing. It isn’t the fact it’s merch, it’s that evangelion portrayed itself in a serious manner, and so the goofier products tarnish the brand image. It would be like if when the matrix 4 came out, Nike made a line of shoes shaped like neos face or something

>> No.8960559

>>8960519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xli293P8fug

>> No.8960560

>>8960554
>it’s that evangelion portrayed itself in a serious manner
eh, I don't think an IP is forbidden from having "goofy" merchandise because it's serious. Also nah, Evangelion has a lot of goofy moments, especially on the first half.
As I said I see it the other way around, I see it as a triumph of a series that was initially a sort of antithesis of what's merchandisable (many sponsors and brands rejected Evangelion before it aired, thinking it wouldn't be marketable due to the weird robot designs, Bandai themselves rejected it and it was SEGA, of all companies, who decided to support the project and release the first toy figures). It wasn't until the series proved to be a success that Bandai and other brands jumped in.

>> No.8960573

buy the eva merch gaijin piggu and stfu

>> No.8960593

>>8960560
You know that tragedies and serious films also have lighthearted or stupid scenes right? The two aren’t mutually exclusive. I’m not saying it’s some masterpiece, but it’s obvious that they tried to make a serious story aimed at an older teenager or adult crowd. I’m also not saying that as a fanboy because I think it’s a really flawed show I would have trouble recommending to most people. But it definitely was something of an art piece at certain moments of show, where it had more in common with a conceptual animation than a tv series.

I’m not saying that it should have toys or whatever, but I guess I will just agree to disagree that at a point there can just be too much weird or stupid merchandise that it can at a point have an effect on how you or people start to perceive the franchise. there are a lot of franchises or game series that never got toys or anything until one of the lead guys left, and suddenly they started making all kind of weird stupid products, so there is definitely an idea that exists where some creators try to not whore out a franchise for reasons they think are important

>> No.8960604

>>8960593
I think you have a problem if you let something like merchandising alter the way you perceive a work.
Evangelion is still just the original TV series and movies. There's the manga and the Rebuilds but you can ignore them if you want.
It's like when people dislike this or that franchise because of the fanbase.
Like, yeah I can understand it, but you should be better than that. This way you're just way too impressionable and suggestionable.

>> No.8960605

>>8960593
Thats the thing it the og Eva was a work of art and one of the best animations ever created. Anno was a genius for making it. All it became was merchandise fodder.
And thats the point why i said it was disrespectful, because if you wanted a good Eva video game you are never going to get it. Just badly licensed games.

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>>8959079
There was a desktop accessory included with the Collector's CD-ROMs which was a minigame in that style. It is more similar to the strategy sections of 13 Sentinels where the angels and Eva units are represented by icons/images from the show over a hex grid.

>>8960465
No, I just went to the store. They had a lot of games for sale and the GBC game was cheap and had Ayanami on the cover so it was irresistible.

>>8960470
Battle Orchestra plays literally like Smash Bros. What did they mean by that? I don't try to decipher any meaning from the show, I don't even like it much, but I love Sadamoto's art and I think the female characters are really cute.

>> No.8960654

>>8960630
>There was a desktop accessory included with the Collector's CD-ROMs which was a minigame in that style. It is more similar to the strategy sections of 13 Sentinels where the angels and Eva units are represented by icons/images from the show over a hex grid.
This one is a classic, iirc it was called Angel Attack and I remember downloading it from some old ass Geocities Eva fansite in the late 90s.
You STILL need to upload those collector discs, photo-kun

>> No.8960723

>>8960604
Like I said, brand image exists wether you want to acknowledge it or not. the other issue is that many people considered the show unfinished, because of a lack of budget and time, so if they have the resources or the man power to approve all of these ridiculous novelty products and licensed games, it also starts to beg the question why they can’t make a new installment of the show itself or something to improve it. It makes the fans less willing to forgive the series ending in its current state when it’s milked to create all sorts of retarded products.

It isn’t really as simple as just ignoring merchandise either because there is also a tipping point. I remember in the very early 2000s, any Eva merch was rare and hard to find, so pretty much anything felt rare and like picking up. Now the world is so saturated with it, it’s essentially worthless garbage. When a franchise full of mystery, ambiguity, theories, and obscure lore has a small amount of high quality merchandise versus a large amount of full retard merchandise, it does effect the way you perceive it for a variety of reasons.

>> No.8960725

>>8960605
Yeah you would think some competent company like Konami or something would have picked it up in the late 90s and done something with it for cheap dev costs on the ps1 or something

>> No.8960786

>>8960723
>Like I said, brand image exists wether you want to acknowledge it or not
Huh? I watched Evangelion back in the 90s and that's my personal experience with it. If there's merchandise being made in 2022, it doesn't alter what I lived back then and my impression of the series is still the same. If anything, I can have a different view on modern merchandising, but it won't alter my impression on the original series.
>can’t make a new installment of the show itself or something to improve it
That's basically what Rebuild is (wether you like it or not), but anyway I think the original series is well liked, along with The End of Evangelion.
I think you just have a personal opinion on it, and that's fine, but you're being weird about how modern merchandise "alters" the original series... it doesn't. I can still grab my original ADV VHSs from back in the day, watch them on my CRT and it's still going to be the same experience I had back in the day. The existence of modern merch is not going to crawl on my room while I'm watching it lol.

>> No.8960795

>>8960605
>>8960725
The thing is that Konami never had the license for it.
It was SEGA who first had the license to make merchandising (and of course, video games). What's weird is that we could have gotten cool Evangelion games by Sega, but instead of some arcade action game we got visual novel/RPG hybrids on Sega Saturn.
Bandai got the license later on and released the N64 game (which is much better quality than the Sega games, at least in terms of presentation, graphics).
Girlfriend of Steel/Iron Maiden is actually pretty good as far as visual novel go, and it was made in-house by Gainax.
I'd say that, yeah, we could have gotten better games, but also it could be much worse.

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>>8960630
>>8960654
Yes, that one was great! If kitchen-counter kun would be so kind to upload it somewhere again we would all be grateful.

>> No.8960983

>>8960967
In the meantime, here's my own upload of a spanish magazine CD-ROM that includes some Eva goodies (both official and unofficial). Pretty sure the angel attack game is included:
https://mega.nz/file/PctQUb5S#w4fi-RNjL7PqtzGzfSy6lr4cWpuusnFs02QeGgVBGFo
The downside is that you need 32-bit windows to run these...

>> No.8961386

>>8960480
Oh yeah I remember that BECAUSE HE FUCKING CRIED AFTERWARDS

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new episode is up. wasn't expecting this.

>> No.8963315

>>8960786
When a franchise starts giving the OK to a bunch of shot merchandise it never recovers. it’s like when bungie sold halo to Microsoft. At the same when bungie fully relinquished control over to microsoft, they never made a good halo game again. A few years before all of the shit games came out, they started pumping out crappy low quality merchandise. The writing was on the wall that the brand was getting whored out and mismanaged. prior to bungie handing the keys over, there was a very small amount of halo merch and most of not all of it was high quality.

It makes complete sense that evangelion after decades of making the most retarded shit to sell gave people rebuild, which is a schizophrenic train wreck of deviant art tier fan fiction writing. if you abuse and neglect a franchise and just pump out shameless merch, it never recovers. this happens all the time.

I didn’t say that merchandise alters a series it alters the perception of the series and the franchise as a whole. That’s what brand identity is. there is a reason why it’s some
Guys job to approve and dent certain things. it isn’t as simple as just approving every single thing because it has no negative effect on something. Some guy earlier said that it’s perceived as disrespectful to the fans and that isn’t the same thing as it effecting the show itself magically. Nevertheless it can alienate people and make them start to have a negative impression or tire of it wether it makes sense to you or not. Look at how many people gave up on starwars after Disney fucked it up. nothing Disney did had any effect on the old series, but it’s still alienating old fans regardless and causing them to lose interest and stop buying new products even if it’s stuff based on the OT. If stuff like this didn’t happen then it wouldn’t be someone’s job to maintain a brand image in the first place. People don’t want something that they like to feel cheapened.

>> No.8963681

>>8963315
>brand identity
I don't know what kind of marketing school you went to, but as I said, I can completely ignore merchandising and still enjoy the original series without it altering a single thing about my personal perception
>but other people-
I don't care about other people, hehe.
Also TL;DR and you talk too much about Halo, a franchise I have 0 experience with and don't care about.

>> No.8965051

>>8962668
>james is a reifag
based

>> No.8965183

>>8960341
What fan game is this?

>> No.8965997

>>8955029
GTFO Naruto fag

>> No.8966023

>>8954940
for me, it's angel raising project (shito ikusei)

>> No.8967154

>>8966023
>translation never

>> No.8968313

>>8967154
what are you talking about
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/6024/

>> No.8968343
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>>8954940
>Most iconic scene is stolen
Fucking kek.

>> No.8968354

>>8968343
>stolen
I dunno if I'd call it that. Inspired by, a homage, more like. There's probably some older work that also inspired that book cover.

>> No.8968402

>>8968354
No, you don't understand, the history of art started with 1970s sci-fi covers. Also Anno never mentioned his sources of inspiration in numerous interviews and articles published in large distribution magazines and newspapers already at the time when Evangelion was first aired, never, so in order to get them you really need to be super knowledgeable and have watched a lot of youtube videos.

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>>8968354
This, NGE references a ton of classical art

>> No.8968481

>>8968465
Aoah, a man's body laid over a cross. Dali was a genius, I wonder where he got the idea for this

>> No.8968554

>>8968481
Yeah, that's the point.

>> No.8970682

>>8968354
>>8968402
>>8968465
I feel sorry for people who didn't get to watch Evangelion back in the 90s, or maybe early 00s too... but nowadays, most people get into Eva all spoiled, probably the first thing they know is how EoE ends, and instantly get bombarded with trivia information such as Anno was inspired (aka "ripped off" according to internet hyperbole) by stuff like Ideon, Devilman and Ultraman. Most people probably got to know Ideon because of the "eva ripped ideon off!" meme (despite both Ideon and Eva being inspired by classic 50s sci-fi novels, but midwits are too ignorant to know or care about that).
Anyway, I digress. The thing is that it's almost impossible to go into Evangelion in 2022 without reading all sort of memes and being practically pre-conditioned to think this or that about it, instead of going into it blind like how I went back in the 90s. I wish people could experience Evangelion that way, but it's likely impossible in this day and age.