/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
Rules: >>8920816
Map in Boom format (CL9)

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
400 MINUTES OF /vr/
RC2: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129139

VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ (Latest)

=== NEWS ===
[05-19] Anon shares his MBF21 map
https://mega.nz/file/1pVgibhT#nWJi3R78FvZXgw8JCO_JJNJoKXuTAWOiUeUAQVmPNow

[05-18] The Force Engine 0.9 released
https://theforceengine.github.io/downloads.html

[05-17] Cancelled 40k FPS game released
https://swordandtorchinn.blogspot.com/p/download-links.html

[05-16] TrenchBroom updated to 2022.1-RC1
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2022.1-RC1

[05-13] John Romero is publishing an autobiography.
https://romero.com/shop/p/doomguy

[05-09] DNF2001 leak is released
>>>/v/598471840 Duke is finally free!

[05-04] The Force Engine 0.9 release imminent
https://github.com/luciusDXL/TheForceEngine

[05-04] Fartyguns 1.0 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/poop-fartyguns

[05-01] DBP47: Dreamcatcher Apparatus is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2603/

[04-27] Ad Mortem updated to 4.2
https://mega.nz/folder/e7Al3RyJ#5wvEjr9AupzvZzTcYDqFzg

[04-26] Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory free on steam
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1519002548891312129

[04-26] Anon releases his Doom engine game!
https://redead-ita.itch.io/sorrow

[04-26] Anon shares a guide on voxels for Doom
https://youtu.be/Bcd3JXKG9Ro

[04-22] Violent Rumble got updated

[04-20] Kex Quake's QC source got released, which includes DotM as well as the other expansions
https://github.com/id-Software/quake-rerelease-qc

[04-17] Doom 2 UV-Speed TAS completed in 9:42
https://youtu.be/MzuJCMV4sK8

=== PREVIOUS ===
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TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

I like Half-Life.

>>8944475
Shut up

>>8944475
Me too.

>>8944480
no, you shut up!

Based Carmageddon 2 fan.

I give the Combine a lot of credit, though. They're tough competitors. A real class act.

>>8944471
I gotta download that carma2 car

Big thumbs up and appreciation for contributors of the 400 minutes of /vr/ project.

Playing through it now and having a great time. You guys did good!

>>8944471
Jerma's Doom - MAPXX: The Rumble.
99% done except for some item placement
>Captcha: D4WAD

Making a map in UDMF, trying to add a custom water texture. I have OSLIME01 through OSLIME04 in the wad, all added to Pnames and Texture1 (not really sure about this step? I saw it in a tutorial but I don't know what it does). I'm reading the ZDoom's wiki page for ANIMDEFS for this.
I add
>Flat Optional OSLIME01 Range OSLIME04 Tics 8
to ANIMDEFS. The water is a still image, no animation occurs.
I try
>Flat OSLIME
Pic OSLIME01 tics 8
Pic OSLIME02 tics 8
Pic OSLIME03 tics 8
Pic OSLIME04 tics 8
instead. The water is still unmoving.
Obviously I'm doing something wrong, can anyone assist?

>>8944565
"Sisyphus's Chrysalises" (map in your pic) might actually be really cool with a randomizer mod, now that I think about it.

>>8944592
>always bitch lightly
Seems about right.

>>8944592

>>8944471
>want to get a new lightweight laptop for travel
>but also want to do some Doom in the side

dunno, was thinking of getting an used thinkpad but I dunno

>>8944592
>kegan evil

Quake? Bad.
Unreal? Bad.
Daikatana? Good.

>>8944657
Steamdeck?

>>8944650
I member

>>8944592
>youtube dumb
Finally something we can all agree on.

>>8943696
How did you get new models in Ironwail?

>>8944694
I always knew he had plans for world domination.

>>8944729
steamdecks are not shipping till October I think

>>8944657
Only issue might be the GPU, some of them just won't run GZDoom now because of the OpenGL version.

It'll run crap like ZDoom though, which is what I did with my old ass one, lot of mods like Yhollmods are fine on that.

>>8944592
>wrong entire match

>duuuuuuuude i`m gonna make this gun straight up earrape you and everyone in a mile radius to show how heckin cool and strong and hardcore and doom it is
when will these faggot ass modders learn to fucking balance the sound volumes already, bros?

>>8944897
sauce on hud?

>>8944904
standard brutality 3 hud. dunno if there`s a standalone tbqh, didn`t find.

>>8944904
+1

>>8944729
>bro its like the switch but masterrace
S H I L L
H
I
L
L

>>8944001
I see, thanks. I suppose you might as well go for ZDoom either way. Even if you would rather stick as close to vanilla as possible while trying something new, but it's not like I have specific plans. Maybe some dumb concept that wouldn't get anywhere closer to recoming a reality.
>>8944592
>Original Faggot
Who would that be? Besides Billy, of course.

>doom

>>8944920
>metadoom
>no metahalo
>no metametroid
erm, we won

>>8944920
Are Seamus McArn's FPS games retro yet?

>>8944924
>metadoom
>no metahalo
>no metametroid
bitch we LOST.
halochads and metroidlads never knew such disgrace.

>>8944920
How did nu doom end up better than nu halo and nu metroid?

>>8944897
Blow it out your eardrums

>>8944743
There may be a better method but I just plugged this into the id1/"whatever levelset you want" folder https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nDLfarkq9unj6V_sdypUblMewcdl1mrQ/view

>>8944924
>needs mods to make his game enjoyable

>>8944694
Be grateful I'm not.
Yet.

>>8944925
prime 1 is same year as SS:TSE, so i guess so.

>>8944897
Blame Mark for having a shitty sound design philosophy, because so many of these idiots follow in his footsteps and just assume LOUDER IS BETTER

You guys weren't lying when you said Brutal/PB code is a fucking disaster. Having a hearty laugh reading through it.

>>8944970
Like seriously.

>>8943980
It is an option you can toggle in the menu, so it's not "permanent".
But it doesn't have a key you can press to turn it off/ on, if that's what you mean.

>>8944970
>0 is enabled
Nigger what

>>8944976

>>8944583
Your animdefs look ok, maybe you could omit the "optional" keyword.
My guess is your flats are not between the proper F_START and F_END markers (maybe none of your graphics are inside their respective markers?).
Also, iirc, the TEXTURES and PNAMES are only for textures and not for flats.

>>8944471
is tonight the night we get in some shit
deathmatch in the incognito tip ??

>>8944985
That's one of the most basic things, DO NOT declare not_condition variables, like, ever, because it becomes absolutely unreadable.
Around 90% of Project Brutality settings are reversed for some twisted reason.

>>8945019
Stupid.

>>8944970
this is like the nintendo wii virtual shop menu in code
ass fucking backwards

>>8945017
It's Wednesday, so no

>>8945028
It's worse than that. At least with the Wii shop stuff you have some catchy music.

>>8944471

>>8945029
why don't you game on weekdays, do you really never have stuff to do on weekends?

>>8945034

>>8945034
Ah the HacX Uzi, the foundation of many, many weapon sprites. It's a little weird here how that other barrel juts out there so oddly though

>>8945029
>no Wednesday Night Whackfest

>>8945037
Don't really feel like it.

>>8945041
>>8945037
What happened to Tuesday Night Titties?

>>8944920
>halodoom and metroid dreadnought are a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLuoVVt-94

Got everything we need in doom

>>8945002
Thanks anon, this is all good info. I ended up copying a bunch of lumps from the wad I pulled the textures from and making the map in Boom format because I don't really care about UDMF's advanced features anyways, but I'm writing your tips down in a notepad file.

>>8945047
>>8945041
>Monday Night Mayhem
>Tuesday Night Titties
>Wednesday Night Whackfest
>Thursday Night Thrashing
>Friday Night Firefight
>Saturday Night Serious Business
>Sunday Night Shitshow
Brought to you by the NEETS of /vr/ as soon as 94p gets released

>>8944920
>unable to shoot while running
>nothing half the kino of valiant
>unable to make any (finished) new games
good bait.
>>8944935
cause they at least tried,retro studios has nothing and they refuse to even finish halo infinite.
games > no games

>>8945050
If you're now doing Boom you obviously need the ANIMATED lump
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/ANIMATED

>>8945048
halo+doom just makes me think of doom 3 and nothing else

>>8945058
Go for it. Part of the reason we restricted ourselves to Fridays and Sundays was to let other anons host their own events on Saturday or any other days. It's been over a year and that hasn't happened yet, but I would like to see that change.

>>8945058
Here:
>Monday Night Magic - coop/survival playthroughs of Heretic/Hexen maps/mods
>Tuesday Night Titties - coop playthroughs of duke maps/mods
>Wednesday Night Whackfest - HL1 via Sven Coop
>Thursday Night Thrashing - Quake coop/DM
>Friday Night Firefight - Doom DM
>Saturday Night Serious Business - Serious Sam coop/DM
>Sunday Night Shitshow - Doom Coop/Survival

Make it happen.

>>8945048
>download link is discord exclusive
I AM UNTETHERED AND MY RAGE KNOWS NO BOUNDS

>>8945058
>NEETS
>all of it is at night
>not playing doom in the day

Hey asshole, why didn't you tell us you've been putting out 400min vids?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znkaovzMP6I

I AM ENJOYING THIS AND NOW EVERYONE ELSE WILL TOO

did I mention this is one of my favorites now?

>>8945092
It's been streamed on Twitch by some guys too.

>>8945089
Project MSX is better.

>>8945094
Yeah, and those were linked here.
I am also still waiting for Egg's vids.

>>8945093
Based. If you played through it vanilla, highly recommend playing through it again now with fitting mods. It makes it even better.

>>8945095
based

>>8945095
as cool as it is, it`s a product of its time. i can`t be bothered to map all its controls every time i feel like playing it.

>>8945092
Very nice

>>8945093
>only got a mere mention at the very bottom of cacowards
Bunch of faggots, all of them.

>>8945107
You don't think there's not gonna be a bunch of unnecessary binds in that new modern Halo Doom mod? Guarantee it uses User buttons 1 through 4, (Armor ability/grapple, melee, grenades, switch grenades), and the gameplay looks like it's held back by the more linear Halo style levels, unless it's also a standalone gameplay mod.
Furthermore there's a slightly updated Project MSX that uses the modern standard GZDoom inputs so you don't have to bind fresh keys. Actually come to think of it, isn't that a non issue with separately stored configs for mods in GZDoom anyway?

All I'm really trying to say is: Weep not for a stupid gameplay mod locked behind a discord wall, as it's usually not worth your time. If it is, someone else here will take one for the team and post it here.

>>8945058
i just want to play, bros
don't really care about which game as long as the filesize is decently low

>>8945138
>as long as the filesize is decently low
Well, this is the retro shooter thread after all. I bet you could fit the entirety of every file mentioned in the OP in a single flash drive these days. Twice over even.

>Made a map with a plan to have one big teleport slaughter in a room
>Can't actually bring myself to make a 200-monster teleport closet

How do others do this?

>>8945124
it`s less about unnecessary binds, and more about MSX using it`s own reload input instead of using gzdoom`s, for example. and also said input overwriting inputs from other mods, and me having to re-bind them later as well.
and now that i`ve read your reply fully, i actually never knew of the updated version. thanks anon, that`ll help me kill some time.
but yeah, i actually dropped malice because of it requiring a thousand different fucking binds lol.

>>8945141
it's my internet, i get 300 megabytes down an hour
BUT chances are i have all the games you guys like by now on my HDD already!

>>8945145
I feel you, buddy. If a mod has a fuckload of binds it better have a good fucking reason for them, and I've only seen one mod that makes it worthwhile: Hideous Destructor.
Now you go enjoy Project MSX and make sure to charge punch a group of dudes for us.

>>8945048
actually looks pretty cool,though this would be even better as a challenge mod like a hideous destructor-lite,rather than what seems to be a power fantasy mod

>>8945083
I could host Serious Sam coop/dm stuff on Saturdays.

>>8945161
are you sincere?

>>8945083
Sounds like you have it planned out. I would suggest taking a look at the /v/an's guide to hosting: https://pastebin.com/rm1Lam3h
Good luck.

>>8945170
>filename
lol

>>8945164
yes

>>8945048>>8945075 >>8945089 >>8945154
here is the link outside discord, now we can play some deathmatch of something right bros?
>https://github.com/Lewisk3/HaloDoom_GZDoomVersion/releases/tag/rc2.0

>>8945153
i`ll gib em good, homie

>>8945173
Oh you saved that, cool.
But fug u

>>8945083
>no unreal
what's your fucking problem?

>>8945187
No days of the week have a U in it

>>8945183
Fug u too, buddy

>>8945187
I guess we could do Thursday Night Tournament?

>>8945192

>>8945204
Really you could just take anything making fun of ManlyTears and substitute it with Blaz and it'd work.

>>8945209
>manlettears
haven't heard that name in a while. I assume he's still a fag

>>8945197
He said Unreal though.

>>8944592

>>8945226
I meant ut

>>8945093
>>8945103
I'm gonna play through with Ashes Weapons and Kriegsland Enemies, myself. Should be fun.

An anon yesterday said he was happy I was enjoying SW so much without nostalgia and made me think a bit even if its something that wanders around when I try to defend some old games amongst more normie friends. And succeed sometimes.

Its not that old good new bad, there was gigantic jank no matter how creative some games were but one thing I like about games that seem to stand the test of time is that the gameplay is responsive, this gores for every genre.

I like for example how you could move fast and slash multiple enemies without getting stuck into an silly animation like ion Doom Eternal. Its the same like auto jumping in modern games on yellow as fuck paint, I HATE getting stuck in animations I cant cancel or control nor matter how brief. Its like modern devs removed the ability to fail jumps sometimes. Of course not everybody does this but still.

SW controls like a charm and the parts that are slightly jank are not agravating, only those pesky shadow ninjas are getting on my nerves but I use all my items to quickly fuck them.

>>8945178
Gracias, amigo.

>>8945243
Sounds fitting and kino.

>>8945262
>>8945262
I have a theory that the games that feel best to play are the ones with as little possible disconnect between pushing a button and seeing a response on screen. That's why QTEs, executions, holding x to perform an action, etc, all feel so shitty, while clicking and immediately getting a bang and a spray of gore just plain feels good.

How is this shit legal?

>>8945276
You feel like you have more control, and likewise that control can feel taken away from you during "press x for awesome" moments.

>>8945283
Teleporters are lines, not sectors. That's how.

What are some good recent wads

Still should be illegal.

>>8945301
What am I looking at?

>>8945262
i think this is generally true,but it also depends on what meshes with someone's taste.
like i don't mind glorykills,they feel mostly good,they are what i wanted to do to demons,so im mostly fine with them,and i love the idea of rewarding aggression,i think that ULTRAKILL does it better with blood healing you.
but one big one i hate is sprint,it always feels really bad compared to other movement options in games,but to others,it feels like that without sprint. (though most who say that are mostly referring to modern shooters,i think the point still stands)

>>8945319
I only hate sprint when it does not allow you to do some actions, again its even if its 1 second you get stuck. I hate it in HL2 and other dark age fps.

But I dont mind sprint\dodge when it gives some I frames in or as a set up for sliding or other actions that reward you instead of only going fast.

I find it ingenious in vanquish where sprint allows you to fire still and go bullet time AND choose a dodge with more bullet time.

For example I would not mind glory kill in doom if it worked more loosely like you do the melee animation and the character dies in an automatic cool gore anim, but you char can move immediately.

>>8944471
where is this from

>>8945319
Dash mechanics can be fun and sometimes I'm fine with sprints mechanics if it suits the gameplay. What I don't like is how often they exist in lieu of fast player movement, and is often an analog stick consideration.

>>8945262
Kind of why I really disliked Doom 4's ledge mantling crap and glory kills, both because it stuck you in animations you didn't really need to be in and made the game feel like the weapons and levels were tailored for those to slow you down.

>>8945298
400minofvr
possibly 512 linedefs we'll see
DBP usually has good stuff
I've had my eye on Pagodia, but haven't tried it yet
I'm making a video about a 2020 miniwad called Nostalgia Ain't What It Used To Be. Only 9ish levels of actual gameplay, varying quality, but it's not bad and doesn't take long to blow through.

>>8945339
I dont mind stuff like ledge mantling the animation is brief and clearly been perfect since arkene in dishonored.
In old Thief the mantling was long although it didn't lock the mouse view unlike modern mantling.

I would like Eternal team to make a silly Hexen game where glory kills dont exist and we have a fluid melee combat it would be much more entertaining than Doom.

>>8945331
that's the ending of Blue Shift, jeez man!

>>8945328
im fine with dash,dashing is fine,i have a much larger problem with sprint,especially if it's like you said,used in lieu of fast movement.
>>8945328
>I only hate sprint when it does not allow you to do some actions
that's the main sprint that i mean,stuff far more liberating is not really the same.

>>8945349
was also for >>8945338

so when will Nightdive release Super 3D Noah's Ark 2: Ham's Revenge? the original is a classic!

>>8944471

>>8945342
>I would like Eternal team to make a silly Hexen game
It's unlikely that Hexen or Heretic will ever get used for anything as they'd even in a superficial way be competing with the TES games.

Corporate mergers result in less stuff being made because of this shit.

>>8944471
what the fuck is up with blue shift story? Those niggas seriously teleported to a suv to drive out of black mesa? Escaping black mesa is that easy? just drive out? That's fucking stupid, the surrounding area must be full of aliens and military must be bombing everyone trying to leave with homing missiles - if all it took was driving out we should have like 20 former BM employee characters in hl2 instead of just fucking 5
I mean, they got a fucking teleporter running, why not just teleport to Las Vegas or any fucking city centre, I figure its not far away from black mesa - why the fuck would you just teleport to a parking lot right outside

>>8945409
I know. Again. A man can dream.

People forget that competition is the shitty situation we are in after this big triple A gaming crash.

>>8945410
I dont know man I kinda dig it, first they are clearly escaping in when the Military are already in disarray, if there are alien popping out of existence they can see them better in the desert and they can go off road if they know the place well. its anarchy at that point they jsut ahve to put pedal to the metal.

>>8920816
>>8944472
Update for Slivovitz Liver Massacre by ASO3000
- Worked a bit on skill level implementation
- Added some direly needed decorations
- Added some really extremely direly needed secrets
- Also fucked a bit with ammo distribution, please check if you have too much/too little of anything at any point

!!!ABSOLUTELY PLAY THIS MAP AT COMPLEVEL 9 - OTHER COMPLEVELS MIGHT BREAK IT!!! 21 certainly will.

https://files.catbox.moe/scaebi.zip

>>8945304
The floor is lava, the square in the top-right corner is the teleporter. You have to enter it from exactly top or right side to get teleported to secret location, otherwise it teleports you back from lava to the surface.

I want to play some fucking DOOM. What source port do you guys recommend?

I used to use GZDoom. I was just wondering if there was better options. I plan to play custom wads too obviously.

>>8945453
I use DSDA-Doom, it can play most noticeable custom wads and doesn't shit itself when there's more than 5 things on the screen at once.

>>8945453
I just want a source port that doenst shit itself from voxels
there's a certain wad I'd love to play without the frame rate chugging in the 20s

>>8945453
Why do people only use one source port? Don't be lazy. I use Chocolate when I want that nostalgic feel going through the iwads, Crispy for general use with vanilla/limit-removing wads, DSDA-doom for boom, Woof for MBF21, and gzdoom/eternity when there are no other options.

>>8945468
Are you playing on toaster? The worst I had is nuts.wad dropping to ~40fps in gzdoom, and it has not 5, but 5 thousands enemies on your screen at once.

New room on my shitty new map. No vines though.

>>8945410
the issue in Half-Life was always getting to the surface, all three games present the dilemma of getting stuck WAY THE FUCK DOWN THERE and shit malfunctioning

>>8945453
DSDA is alot nicer for most wads.

>>8945507
clean af

>>8945504
I'm overexaggerating, but DSDA still performs better than GZDoom.

>>8945507
>that red cross in the wall

>>8945507
Nice!
>>8945559
Delicious Geniva Convention violation.

>>8945541
Just played a nice casual game of 100,000 revenants, good port.

>>8945343
I actually want to know.

>>8945541
Of course it is, no one ever doubted this. But only the most extreme shit with thousands of monsters per single level requires something faster than gzdoom.

>>8945574
Wew lad.

>>8945585
Except for something like solace dreams where it's nothing but voxels which rape gzdoom

>>8945601

>>8945602
But solace dreams runs only on gzdoom?

>>8945614
and it runs like ass

>>8945608
Okay, I take that back, DSDA isn't omnipotent.

>Doom RPG
>Doom II RPG
>no Quake RPG
It isn't fair.

>>8945585
Some people are using older PCs. My 670 had framerate dips when playing the icon of sin/pyramid level in Ancient Aliens, for example. prboom ran it better. Also I couldn't run Bastions of Chaos at a decent fps when I tried, but that requires gzdoom so time to build a new PC.

I found Doom 2 much harder than Blood.
I played on Ultra Violence and Lightly Broiled respectively.

>>8945048
what the fuck bros, this is the crispiest, crunchiest, sharpest, cleanest shit. i haven`t been this proud of being a doomfag in years.
one of the weapon spawn presets is even supposed to imitate MSX.

>>8945758
Blood makes every other FPS look like shit even with hitscan it has once you learn how to play it and use upgrades and search for secrets.

Though you did not claim it wasn't better, but I found Doom to be rather trivial for the most part unlike, say Duke.

That being said I forgot how to install it and what do I use BuildGDX on, was it one unit whole blood or just blood found in separate megas here
someone be kind and remind me

>>8945770
nevermind it's one unit whole blood

gotta reinstall it on my t430

>>8945770
I recently played it with BloodGDX and one unit whole blood, although I used my GoG version.
I enjoyed both very much. I just found Blood easier than I was expecting because of the wonderful movement, weapons and plentiful secrets.
Plus there’s nothing as dickish as Plutonia’s revenant closets, at least not in the base campaign.

Does anyone have recommendations for visual mods that would pair well with Dead Marine?

>>8945785
Blood is probably the most disguisingly exuberant madcap game I've ever played and its theme I found to be near-completely unique in video games even though weird west was done before. It's very hard to play it - I find it hard to play it - chaotically and I dread stepping out in the open yet it's the only way to play. It's a constant creepshow ride.

I did not play Doom 2 for years and years, gotta any reccomendation for me, some mod to install etc?

>>8945410
the teleporter is a prototype that barely works and has to slingshot you through an alternate dimension full of ballsack crabs, the one in HL2 is has like 20 years of iteration
hell you get pinged through like five random portal spots on the way out
also at this point all of new mexico is fucked by aliums but the majority are xen wildlife while the soldiers are presumably engaging, well, our soldiers, so you could totally free wheel it out of there and just splatter any bullsquids or houndeyes you see

>>8945794
I play mostly vanilla or as close to it as I can given the wad I’m using.
A lot of people recommend high noon drifter or treasure tech for gameplay mods. There’s also a ton of great TCs like Ashes.
I’m also a fan of the spooktober community mapping project. The wad list in the OP has a lot of good suggestions as well, plus there’s the cacoawards.

>>8945808
thanks

>>8944475
Do you know who ate all the donuts?

>>8945602
But dad, isn't Solace Dreams shit?

>>8945850
I liked it. Had a very painkiller/dreamkiller vibe to it where you had all kinds of different settings.

>>8944939

Is Ashes 2 a continuation of 1 or just same universe?

>>8945878
direct continuation.
expansion for 1 isn`t really connected to the story though.
FUCK i want more of it man.

>Boom fixed ghost monsters

PLUTONIA highlights

>>8945920
KEK

>>8945920
kek`d

>>8945920
I see that fellow in the back there.

>>8945820
https://whatishl.ytmnd.com/

>>8945994
>ytmnd
Holy shit that's still alive?

>>8945383
wew, I did that like 4 years ago

>>8945276
>press 'C' for heckin awesome pinata animation!

>>8945989
HAW HAW HAW

>>8946001
It died in '18-'19 but came back in '20.

Blood Add-On Recos?

>>8944576
Actually kinda of excited for this.

>>8920816
>>8944472
>>8936005
Final update to lunch's 512 submission
Title change(!): I Actually Like MAP21 Of DOOM II
-Removed about sixty monsters from the final fight and implemented difficulties
https://doomshack.org/uploads/512lunchV2.wad

>>8945409
>“I was looking at the IP list, I mean, let’s go!” Spencer said. “ ‘King’s Quest,’ ‘Guitar Hero,’ … I should know this but I think they got ‘HeXen.’ ”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/01/20/xbox-activision-blizzard-phil-spencer/
Although my guess is that new Heretic/Hexen (if happens) would be some third person thing with big emphasis on cooperative. Just a gut feeling. Either way, that's something.

>>8944576
I hope you make a stream-killer fireblu room if you're sending this to Jerma to stream

>>8945510
I guess, then again half of blue shift action is on surface and you already establish a foothold in a freight yard - which I assume is the way to transport shit out and i of BM - maybe it was blocked or something, I dont remember cause I played years ago

A long while ago I made art tile replacements for blood of alpha weapons and shared my autoload, it was kinda buggy and shit so I made an autoload version of the alpha weapons that's clean and organized and works with everything (hopefully at least) and has 3 voxels (black shotgun/akimbo pickup and dark napalm pickup).

Alpha weapons: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810405089754873906/976886200570888263/Alpha_Weapons.zip
Standalone smooth tommygun: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810405089754873906/976886426471895050/Smooth_Tommygun.zip
Hi-res skies: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810405089754873906/976886465474732112/High_Quality_Skies.zip

>>8946246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTD2IUT67rs

https://files.catbox.moe/j7y916.7z (this is my pre-installed copy, latest version, removed the tiles before 018.art since they were just bloat and made new organized ones, fixed both MIDI and CD music to play properly and fixed cutscenes to play, use my auto-load for alpha weapons)

>>8946302
He says a lot of stuff that borders on doing a Molyneux, most of it's forgotten about before he's even out the door.

>>8945143
Make a smaller teleport closet and just copypaste it

>>8946319
I wonder if anybody ever got their hands on Term's attempt at making his own fireblu that fucked up bitrates even harder.

>>8946337
This is the first I'm hearing about this. Is there video evidence?

>>8946392
Only one I can find doesn't really show it off as well as it got.

It nearly made him barf tho.
https://www.twitch.tv/terminusest13/clip/HyperFuriousSkirretPRChase

>>8945178
>>8945759
Thanks for the link, just played the first two levels of Doom II and I'm kinda blown away by how good this is. Reminds why I loved Halo so much back in the day.

I wonder what .wads. would suit this mod though.

Doom Incarnate is pretty neat. Though the assault rifle and shotgun are gibbing enemies with basic shots and I don't think I like that.

>>8944472
Ante Mortem episode 1 released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129400-ante-mortem-episode-1-super-large-and-super-charged-udmf/

Italo Doom of /vr/ when?

>I didn't take the Blender pill

>>8946704
Good god anon
This really didn't need to be that detailed.

>>8946712
I'm literally too autistic. I watched a Half Life terrain tutorial that popped into my recommendations and now I can't stop doing long strips of quad geometry with perfect intersections.
It's a curse.

Is J.A.C.K ever going to update the free version to newer one?
Or am I going to have to buy it?

>>8946730
This could be so easily simplified to something that would be much easier to work with and won't make the compile tools cry

>>8946732
No, why would they ever update the free version when they can make money instead?
What does the newer version of JACK even have over the last free version

Carl "Sandy" Bepersen was not qualified to make maps.

>>8946732
No idea, but even the beta branch for the paid version hasn't been updated in a few months. I've been kinda worried about it, so I started gitting gud at Trenchbroom again.

>>8946735
I have an i9. The compiler can suck my dick.

>>8946739
Sandy redemption arc when?

>>8946739
Talk to the hand

>>8946757
Already did, it sucks.

>>8946739
Someone got filtered by the Elder World

>>8944472
Halo Doom: Evolved season 2 got released officially

(DL) https://github.com/Lewisk3/HaloDoom_GZDoomVersion/releases/tag/rc2.0
(Trailer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sXI0uBU-qQ

look's like your making a fps, need a HAND with that? *take's a fat sandy shit on you're episode* ahh a job well done, that'll be $40,000 + tip

>>8946883
Romeros quake maps were the weakest. Sandy is king.

>>8946757
>fireblu dens for the cacos making appropriate use of the texture
>secret plasma rifle
>the stairs marking your entry into the level
I liked it more than I expected

>>8946882
so is it possible to play through the marathon games with this mod?

>>8946885
See, the issue here is that Quake just isn't good.
>every enemy is incredibly tanky
>roster sucks on top of that
>every weapon is completely unsatisfying
>weapon roster sucks on top of that
>tosses aside everything that made doom good in favor of m-muh graphics
>such soulless trash that even romero gave up on it, leaving carl's sandy bepersen to shove itself into your ass
Doom was the first and last good Id game. Yes, Doom 2 sucks too.

>>8946896
>every weapon is completely unsatisfying
not the rocket launcher

>every enemy is incredibly tanky
>every weapon is completely unsatisfying
That’s a very quick way to disregard a Quake opinion.

>>8946904
t. sandy

>>8946904
Quake is like DOOM if DOOM got rid of the fun weapons aside from the rocket launcher, got rid of zombiemen and chaingunners and replaced them with hitscan barons, replaced demons with melee barons, and replaced barons with archies while also doubling their HP pool. Shit sucks.

Is there a quake source port equivalent to gzdoom that allows you to sell quake engine games without licensing fees yet? I really like how the engine feels and the work flow of trenchbroom.

>>8946893
Dunno what those are, I ain't the author anyway.

The mod only affects player, weapons, pickups and barrels.

This means you can play it on any map, with any monsters replacers.

>>8946915
darkplaces? In any case you'll have to release any engine modifications publically

>>8946914
Have you even played Quake? Good bait anyway, you've got me.

>>8946924
Yeah, it's exactly as I described. Prove me wrong.

>>8946921
>>8946915
also if you like trenchbroom, you can import bsps into godot with qodot, into ue4 with hammuer, and I'm sure there is a tool to do the same for unity

>>8946914
so you have no understanding of either doom or quake, since you clearly have no idea about time to kill in either

>>8946904
He's not wrong, all the weapons in Quake except the super nail gun suck massive cock. The shotgun is an ok pistol/starter slot weapon but the ssg is just dogshit. Quake got undeservedly prestigious because "muh deathmatch, muh bhopping, muh rocket tag."

>>8946926
I started with godot, but I was having terrible light bleeding amongst a few other issues.

That webm is literally what he described, what?

>>8946938
>>8946929

>>8946938
Except he should be using the normal shotgun in Doom since it's closer to what the double shotgun is in Quake.

>>8946929
Shamblers are literally just archies with doubled hp pools, thanks for proving it.

Really love Ad Mortem's palette, thanks doc!

>>8945578
It's Carmageddon 2

>>8946940
Even though Doom's shotgun is more comparable to Quake's super shotgun than its shotgun, that doesn't make Quake's shotgun or super shotgun fun. It makes them less fun in fact, replacing the pistol with the shotgun made all of the other weapons feel like wet noodles, especially in tandem with the extraordinarily spongey enemies.

>>8945276
I agree.
It's a similar concept to the half-life style of design where it feels better to never have control taken away from the player.

>>8946940
>>8946962
I agree doom has the better enemy roster and weapon lineup, but i still enjoy quakes - and quake has the GL, the best RL and better movement.
AD improves the quake weapon lineup, especially the shotguns.

>>8946991
Quake is fun not just because of GL and RL: doom and other FPSes have weapons like that too - it is also because it never relegates RL and GL to being a "use only in dire situations" weapon - it throws so much ammo at you for it, even making a basic and very common enemy drop rockets, giving you liberty to blow up most of enemies you see - especially seeing how many enemies are spongier than in doom, the game basically forces you to use explosives if you want to get through it smoothly.
You are also not so afraid of self damage from explosives as it makes rocket/grenade jumping a viable movement technique - quake's handling of explosives combined with "full 3d" levels is one of its most fun aspects

>>8947009
Explosives are more fun in moderation. If the rocket launcher is something you use rarely, it's that much more satisfying when you do use it. If it's something you use commonly, it doesn't feel as impactful or as satisfying. It's like if every weapon in Doom caused enemies to gib - seeing them gib wouldn't be interesting or fun anymore.

How do you guys add more rooms to your maps without feeling samey? I feel like every one of my rooms has to be super unique. Is that a mistake possibly? Should I just settle for rooms that don't really do anything special, and are just another obstacle for the player?

>>8947026
just make a hand

>>8946001
Max Goldberg is a very dedicated man.

>>8946787
Bitch.

Can anyone share me their blood movie files?

my "borrowed" copy of fresh supply didn't came with it.

and im too lazy to look for OUWB.

>>8947016
SSG in doom 2 is satisfying no matter how much most wads and D2 itself make it the main goto weapon for almost everything
Same goes for Quake, even with common use RL in Q1 never stops feeling impactful for me - made me think that maybe how fun weapons are is not determined by theories that you or I make but by a subtle balance that guys at id found and implemented

>>8947045
the problem with your statement is that quake sucks

>>8947047
Fuck you.

>>8947051
Hes not wrong I'd play Nu doom

400min MAP32

Very cool concept, gave me "Library of Babel" vibes sometimes.
I am wondering if there is a way to collect all keys without encountering any monsters (except the Cyberdemon of course).
Took me forever because I was very cautiously clearing room after room.
In the end I had opened every single door, but seem to have missed five monsters. Some teleport closet issue?

>>8947045
>make it the main goto weapon for almost everything
Why is this a thing? Because Doom 2 / Final did that? Seriously, 90% of wads rely on it, there's virtually no ammo to use anything else.

ssg ruined doom 2
ao did archies and painies but mostly just the ssg

>>8947026
I treat rooms in Doom like I treat any other element of gameplay: by following the Rules of JRPG NPCs.
>Any NPC in a JRPG, when interacted with, must be one of the following:
>1. Developmental (Helps the player achieve their in-game goals, e.g. giving items or starting a battle)
>2. Informational (Teaches the player about gameplay or the setting)
>3. Humorous (Makes the player laugh, if all goes to plan)
So for me, it doesn't matter if I plop-down a bare-ass rectangle to start with. I can refine that rectangle to serve on of the above three purposes, and once I'm satisfied it does that, I can move on to the next room. Finish the level, go back and polish/refine. Maybe some rooms feel same-y at first, but I like to get a map layout done before I bother worrying about that stuff anyway. That's probably why my detailing/texture usage is uniformly criticized.

>>8947009
Instant weapon switching makes a big difference too. The second or two it takes to switch weapons in Doom is often a second or two you don't want to waste, so you usually fight an enemy with just one weapon from start to finish, and you only switch mid-kill in cases of critically bad matchups or ammo shortages. Quake lets you freely flip to whatever best suits your positioning and target as they change in the fight. It really makes any single weapon comparison moot, because that's not even how you play Quake. If you don't adapt to the differences in the games, of course you're going to struggle. You're gonna have a really hard time trying to play Quake like Doom when you have to jump or aim vertically for anything.

>>8947016
I fucking love the quake RL and don't get bored of it, but who knows, maybe i've got the 'tism.

>>8947062
The SSG is suffering from success. While I can see why (if the Shotgun was Doom's Longword, the SSG is the fucking Greatsword), I still prefer the Plasma Fun desu.

>>8944471

Does anybody if Doom has been beaten on ultra violent? I've gotten into speedruns and shit recently and wonder if anybody managed to FAIRLY, without wallclips and shit, beat the game on this setting?

>>8947119
What? Do you mean nightmare mode? Either way the answer for the base game is yes. I'm a shitter and I can beat UV easily.

>>8947119
No, it's just too unfair, I had to use godmode to beat Hurt Me Plenty.

>>8946460
>Though the assault rifle and shotgun are gibbing enemies with basic shots and I don't think I like that.
You'd have to open it up and add +NOEXTREMEDEATHS or whatever it is to the puffs they use.

>>8944471
>>8947119

ok this is a sad one

> my dad introduced me to Doom when I was 8
> my first videogame ever
> play it every day as our family is poor and can't afford a lot of games
> not that it matters, the game is amazing and we're having a fucking blast
> over the years we learned it inside and out (no internet back then, but we found pretty much every secret on every map, even the ones that "don't count" in the secret counter)
> slowly establish a real bond with my dad as he tells me more and more of the "grown up stuff", things about our family, advice on women etc
> one day I learn that for the past couple of months my dad have had AIDS
> don't even fully understand wtf it is, just know it's bad
> family never had insurance, can't afford the treatment
> still play with him every day, trying not to be "negative"
> months down the line he permanently moves to a hospital - financed by an old pal of his
> visit him every day, we talk about life and shit, and Doom
> tell him cool things I've been finding out in the game, joke about beating Doom on UV when he returns home
> apparently things are getting worse and the money of his pal is running out - at least that's what he says
> one day I visit him and he looks the worst I ever seen him, as if he can die at any moment now
> says to me "son.This thing is just another challenge. And I'm really good at challenges. I'll beat this disease as soon as I beat Doom on Ultra-Violent"
> feel total shock
> tell him I have to go to the bathroom and cry my fucking eyes out for hours
> finally decide to tell him
> "D-dad... The game is... unbeatable on ultra violent....i-it's a joke difficulty developers added just for the sake of it..."
> He's unbelievably stern. "Well. If that's the case, then I guess it's setttled. gg son"
> next day I find out he died in his sleep
> Every day since I've been playing Doom trying to beat it on UltraViolent
> The farthest I gotten is the third level
> It's been 17 years.

>>8947042
You can find them in the OP. Either in the MEGA or Google Drive links.

Man, even vanilla Doom is still so much fun

Is it cheating if I change the automap colors so that triggers and switches are visible?

It reveals tiny hidden switches easily, letting me find secrets easier, for example. But it still feels "off", like I'm not supposed to do that, even if the source port lets me do it.

>>8946950
reminds me of castlevania simon's quest. nice.

>>8944592
>bullshit whatever mapping adding icarus reason

So, was Icarus anything else, but bullshit whatever mapping?

>>8947296
save game, use iddt, then reload game so you didn't cheat

>>8947323
I would say Icarus Alien Vanguard is perfectly described by bullshit whatever mapping.

>>8946739
He was so qualified he built a map in your head and lives there rent free.

>>8945034
>>8945038
>>8944897
Link to WAD

>>8947016
>Explosives are more fun in moderation.
It’s fine to have preferences but speak for yourself. You may be speaking for others as well but it highlights the misconception people come to regarding Quake’s “””bullet sponges”””. One of the few legitimate complaints about it’s roster is how the weakest enemies aren’t placed beyond the first level of each episode, but this is not at all a concern for user content.
I’ve also noticed some comparing the super shotguns in both games based off of a single shot, kind of like the few who come to the poor conclusion that Doom 2’s super shotgun is as strong as the rocket launcher. As such, some things are entirely neglected like how Doom’s RL refires twice as fast as the SSG and how Quake 2’s shotguns both refire faster than Doom’s regular shotgun.
>>8946929
To be completely fair, the shambler is the “boss mob” so it wouldn’t be wrong to compare it to the cyberdemon’s healthpool.

>>8947045
>>8947079
My thing is how well they perfected the balance between the grenade and rocket launcher: Grenades fly slower and less reliably but the grenade launcher fires faster. This balance was hard for me to let go of and shields as the biggest hurdle for me getting into Q2.

>the copypasta about anon's dad having AIDS got deleted
https://youtu.be/o1pAlrFDTu8

Could I make an RTS using the quake engine? Or am I insane?

>>8947472
It’s a good question, I’m not aware of the limits of the engine

>>8947485
This at least gives me hope about the camera changes that would be necessary

Best examples?

>>8947509
Literally any slaughter map

>>8947472
Anything is possible if you want to code it

>>8947509
Repeated use of unmarked locked doors with no color appropriate indicators. The first few master levels I tried through the PSX Master Edition was as far as I got.

>>8947509
Thy Flesh Consumed
Master Levels
Doom 2
TNT

>>8947472
i mean, i recall
>racing quake
>skateboard quake
>chess quake
and these were 90's mods

>>8947509
E3M2

>>8944471

Any wads like Thy flash consumed ?
Same question for Master levels.

Pls nothing too unvanilla, I want it to feel "proper"

>>8947560
Romero's Sigil is pretty good.
Also Doom the Way That Id Did

Sir, that's way too many Arch-viles.

i need of quake modeling resources. not just basic shit, i need to learn how to make monsters and weapons. send me anything.

>>8947521
>>8947543
So be it, if I ever get anywhere ill let this place know

>>8947590
It’s crazy how well spread out they are, those Casali’s really were something else.

How long does it usually take for idgames to shoot you an email?

>>8947590
That's way too few Arch-viles.

>>8947619
2-3 weeks.

>>8947296
SINGLEPLAYER GAME

>>8947619
A week or so

>>8947619
You can write them ahead instead of waiting.

>>8947590
>Sir, that's way too many Arch-viles.

>>8947648
Oh yeah I guess I could do that.
It doesn't matter what I put in the body as long as the subject is DOOM-FTP, right?

>>8947652
fuck Aquarius, annoying autistic retard.

>>8947162
Ahh, I think I tried something like that in a different weapon set, but it wasn't to the puffs so it didn't work. Thanks.

>>8947590
Pretty sure I blurted "Oh fuck off" when I saw that the first time.

>>8947654
I usually write something along the line of "Hi, I uploaded so-and-so.zip, messaging you ahead of time.

>>8947674
I debated on doing "5 decides what I email to idgames" but that would 99% result in a rejection so I just did that instead.

>>8947585
Played both. I actually meant Sigil when I said TFC

>>8947560
Doom 2 in Spain Only has some jokes surrounding it, MIDIs included, but the maps are mostly vanilla in style.

>>8946915
>>8946921
Use FTE. It has all the same graphics as ShitPlaces and more without the awful performance and glitchiness.

>>8944592
Graf updating be like

>>8944925
The first two Primes are /vr/ because Gamecube is allowed. The two for DS and Wii aren't yet.

is there anyway to fix the fucked font in voidsw? or am i just better off using another port

>>8947960
Use raze anon, works perfectly, using it for the first time now and tried everything else.

>>8947509
OBLIGE

>>8947981
Alright then

>>8947960
>>8947981
Raze is great, but I don’t think you’ll still have the “turn off bees” option that VoidSW provides. But there is “aim assist for hitscan only” so that’ll make the bees way, way less irritating.

I am starting to think this whole "sunset-night-transition" thing isn't going to work out.
It's not about how it's currently looking like (because obviously it need the transitions and dithering and shit), but the Doom skybox in and by itself would have to be like twice as big, because as you can see, at least with a widescreen resolution you can already see both sunsets/sunrises on the screen, and making the transition even shorter would look even worse; in fact every single of the 256px textures of the sky should be twice as wide imo.

Maybe this was a bit too ambitious and I should just make a sky for sunset and one for the night and leave it at that; those at least look decent and I would be honored if they found their way into the comfy sleepytime project.

>>8948051
Maybe make each incriment its own skybox?
Also use better color combos

>>8948051
what this guy said >>8948071
and just use transfer sky texture in boom to differentiate zones, I think a somewhat smooth transition would be worth trying to do

>>8948071
>Maybe make each incriment its own skybox?
Yes, that's what I said.

>Also use better color combos
What does that mean? I am limited by the palette and everything else looks kinda dumb.
By itself, the sunset doesn't look that bad.

>>8948081
You know, I am too OCD to let this just be anyway. I will definitely try.

>>8947485
those cute no interpolation animations are so adorable, especially when he runs up to the board quickly to get back up

>>8947485
>So HUH I am

>>8947642
holy shit, those nerd better hurry up, we need eggplant and others to record and a doomwiki entry too

>>8947619
It can be pretty random, actually. Usually a few days, but sometimes maintainers disappear.

>>8948051
The moon is really cute, it can probably work without sunset (Or just much reduced glow on the horizon)

>>8948051
If the central glow was lowered just a bit you could make a sunset/night transition, it's fine if it looks a bit exaggerated it's doom
Even if you do go that route I like the two skybox idea, both are charming and compromising too much might hurt that

>>8948150
Huh, that's true. I was really hung up about that sunset that I forgot I could make a "later" sunset and have a less harsh transition there.

>>8946730
This looks great.
>>8946712
>>8946735
Shut the fuck up, smooth surfaces make my dick hard and this is not even that smooth nor that detailed. If you can count the surfaces by hand, you're way under any reasonable limit.
The only thing I'd say, make sure you're snapping to grid / integer coordinates, THAT's what causes the tools to shit themselves.

Now that the dust has settled, what do we think of BigMacDavis?

Even Romero recognized the shotgun, nailgun and axe are too weak (and the thunderbolt too powerful). Not to mention the perforator is a completely straight update over the nailgun, and the lack of berserk basically means 25% of the weapons are useless.
I don't think time-to-kill is too terrible, but boy, combat is so much more fun when you've got the quad. The Doom shotguns mod in Violent Rumble is also a pure win (even if DPS doesn't really go up).
It also grinds my gears when the mapper throws me groups which I have to shotgun one-by-one. Just give the the grenade launcher you fucking nigger, or stick to single enemies until you do.

has anyone bothered going through those crazy Doom level bundle CDs to see if there are any good wads?

>>8948245
It's just about all stuff ripped from idgames.

>>8948245
I've combed through a few of them for Doom, Duke, and Quake.
>The Home Edutainment Collection
lmao

>>8944985
Technically using 0 as "enabled" or "good" is not a bad idea in itself, it depends on context. Here, though, it's a clusterfuck. Defining Enabled and Disabled multiple times in different parts of the project is, obvioualy, a retarded thing to do.

>>8946739
>retarded asukaposter got filtered
Every single time

>>8948341
Yeah, but what they should really do is just define properties as boolean and name them "FooEnabled" if disabled is the default and vice-versa. Unless you've got some weird edge case where you want to be 100% certain the property hasn't been initialized for some reason? Whatever, fuck that shit, I'm overthinking it now.

threadly reminder to always bet on duke
Hail to the king baby!

>>8944886
https://voca.ro/17xvEemrisbI

sandy papersen lol

>>8948381

>>8946742
>I have an i9. The compiler can suck my dick.
that's not how it works

>>8948245
That reminds me of that time someone found an impossibly mangled map on one of those that had been turned into non-euclidean spaghetti by some ancient buggy editor.

>>8945262
i have zero nostalgia about shadow warrior or blood, in fact i am new to the build engine games but they all controlled and played fantastically, i also liked the art style of build engine games, nothing like it in the market.

>>8948508
Build for the most part managed to fit a niche of being able to better pull off more detailed maps than the Doom engine but not so much to clutter stuff to fuck.

The Doom games never really pulled off stuff that seemed like real world locations that way.

>>8947509
Most TerryWADs
Master Levels
One Humanity.

>>8948381
>>8948427
>everybody likes men
hffm was a warning

>>8948110
There's still no doomwiki entry for the other minutes of /vr/ WADs though. Shouldn't those come first?
>>8948405
10/10
>>8948507
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AkX1C18vQRk

>>8948596
what in the goddamn

I was playing Master Levels and looks like Playstation wad version (MASTERLEVELS.WAD) is broken, mancubus death trigger is not working.
First it was a secret at level 14 (Bloodsea), there's a mancubus you have to kill to open the secret room, but it didn't opened.
And now it's level 15 (Mephisto's Mausoleum), and you have to kill 4 mancubuses to lower the wall to progress the level. And it just doesn't work, nothing happens. At first I thought it was Project Brutality or Corruption Cards so I disabled them, then I tried DSDA instead of GZDoom, nothing, no luck, I can't play anymore, stuck in this room forever.
After that I tried original MEPHISTO.WAD, and everything works as intended, killing all mancubuses properly lowers the wall.

>>8944958
But you are COMBINE Kegan, are you not?

>>8948706
Yeah they have to be put in the Map07 slot for the trigger to work. I remember playing the normal master levels wads and not having a problem but maybe I just blocked shit like Mephisto out of my memory. anyway I'm assuming you can change the map number via slade? Never tried it.

>>8945164
Sincere Samuel?

>>8948749
What's his name again?

>>8948753
Frank Frank

>>8948753
Lazy Larry

>>8948406

>>8948753
deliberate dilbert

>>8948753
Holy shit they kept changing his face so much. Probably for the better

>>8948753
Allmendinger Dinger

>>8948753
Authentic Abe

>>8948753
Bombastic Bryan

>>8948769
I liked that Al Bundy lookalike.

>>8948753
Hontōni Hiro

>>8948746
Well that's kinda retarded. I assume it only works in specific levels on purpose? Why though? Some micro-optimization?

>>8948753
Jurassic Joel

You guys know what mods hes using? I like the HUD and the shotgun

>>8948820
D-Rady's Class Mod, but I don't know if the version with the leather HUD is public yet.

>>8948753
Recalcitrant Reginald.

>>8948753
Lethargic Larry
Apathetic Albert
Procrastinating Patrick
Disappointing Derek
Dormant Dan
George Broussard
Idle Ian
Slothful Samuel
Comatose Carlos
Delaying Dale
Blocking Barry
Postponing Paul
Dilatory Darius
Overreaching Omar
Unmotivated Unnar
Slow-moving Scott
Slacking Saul
Drowsy Drake
Stagnant Stanford
Loitering Lewis

>>8944471
woah Half-life Carmageddon mod? where do I grab it??

>>8945276
I'm a fan of having a great amount of button inputs and they call come together to form full actions when pressed in sequence.
This is absolutely useless and wank if the button inputs only exist to serve specific sequences/functions (like the reload-wank in Receiver) but if the individual inputs/actions are open-ended enough to allow the player to create unique and inventive things to do with all the inputs available as well as the usual stuff then I find it extremely rewarding to get into the flow state of your hand(s) dancing around the inputs doing things you never even thought of on the fly.

And Yes! I DID adopt this way of thinking after my Smash Melee phase! And No! Please don't bully me for it!

>>8948843
One good thing to come out of the long wait is that its inspired other anons to start projects. 400min is great and 512 is shaping up to pretty good as well. Are there any other project gimmicks we haven't tackled?

>>8949006
We can restrict anything quantifiable, so things, vertices, and sectors are open. We can also do something like only allowing X types of monsters per map, or X amount of textures/flats. There's a lot of gimmicks to be used.
And for the record, the lead of 400 Minutes and 512 Linedefs is the same anon. It's me. I'm going to stop doing these for a while to let other anons have a chance.

>>8949006
yeah, a serious sam classic project

HOW 2 HOST PROJECT
>Gauge interest. Make a proposal, see if people are interested, maybe use a strawpoll
>If interest is high enough, establish rules for your project plus a deadline
>Make a post announcing your project, add an attention grabbing image if you want.
>A kind anon will add it to the news post. If not, just post it every new thread.
>Also provide resources like mapping tutorials for people to use for contributing, especially if you're doing something other than Doom
>Answer questions as a lead, actually be present, handle disputes and give feedback to contributions
>Compile when ready
GO MAKE PROJECT

>>8949049
I would genuinely be shocked if a SS project got more than like 3 submissions here. Same goes for something like Turok.

>>8949085
It's really not that hard working with SED1, the main hurdle is actually finding good tutorials to follow. I'd be down with helping people learn the editor since I made a map for classic TSE before.

>>8949098
Sounds like you should go the same route 500ml did and have an off-site place to discuss things, be it a discord or an IRC (I personally suggest #vr/doom/ at rizon)

Through to 15 now
Holy shit 12 tho

>>8948801
Master Levels are just separate wads and trying to combine them means that levels that were made with special triggers in mind don't work outside of their intended level slot.

>>8949006
There was a thread where we joked about a Canadian Doom once but I don't know if anyone actually wants to make it

>>8949174
I've kept in in the back of my head, but in the middle of spring not so much
yes I'm aware canada has spring as well but too bad this is your lot in life leafs

>>8949006
Can we just do /vr/s version of /pol/wad essentially?

>>8949267
/pol/.wad IS /vr/'s version of /pol/.wad.

>>8947992
Explain

>>8949269
I think he meant /vr/.wad, with /vr/ memes
which should've been in the project that spawned /pol/.wad, I think it was one map per board but it might've been abandoned

>>8949296
>I think it was one map per board but it might've been abandoned
Correct. Little history lesson for the young ones, this was in 2013 before we were into our mapping groove, before 200 Minutes of /vr/ even. Only /pol/, /tg/, and /g/ were made, and /g/ evolved into its own beast entirely. We have a much stronger understanding of mapping now, so resurrecting the project is entirely possible.

>>8949305
What did the /g/ wad turn into? Did it live up to its namesake's autism?

>>8949315
>it's just lilith.pk3 renamed to >amd

>>8949315
BEHOLD
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0YoqfMFtO_4

>>8948753
Genuine Gerald