/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
Rules: >>8920816
Map in Boom format (CL9)

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
400 MINUTES OF /vr/
RC2: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129139

VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ (Latest)

=== NEWS ===
[05-19] Anon shares his MBF21 map
https://mega.nz/file/1pVgibhT#nWJi3R78FvZXgw8JCO_JJNJoKXuTAWOiUeUAQVmPNow

[05-18] The Force Engine 0.9 released
https://theforceengine.github.io/downloads.html

[05-17] Cancelled 40k FPS game released
https://swordandtorchinn.blogspot.com/p/download-links.html

[05-16] TrenchBroom updated to 2022.1-RC1
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2022.1-RC1

[05-13] John Romero is publishing an autobiography.
https://romero.com/shop/p/doomguy

[05-09] DNF2001 leak is released
>>>/v/598471840 Duke is finally free!

[05-04] The Force Engine 0.9 release imminent
https://github.com/luciusDXL/TheForceEngine

[05-04] Fartyguns 1.0 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/poop-fartyguns

[05-01] DBP47: Dreamcatcher Apparatus is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2603/

[04-27] Ad Mortem updated to 4.2
https://mega.nz/folder/e7Al3RyJ#5wvEjr9AupzvZzTcYDqFzg

[04-26] Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory free on steam
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1519002548891312129

[04-26] Anon releases his Doom engine game!
https://redead-ita.itch.io/sorrow

[04-26] Anon shares a guide on voxels for Doom
https://youtu.be/Bcd3JXKG9Ro

[04-22] Violent Rumble got updated

[04-20] Kex Quake's QC source got released, which includes DotM as well as the other expansions
https://github.com/id-Software/quake-rerelease-qc

[04-17] Doom 2 UV-Speed TAS completed in 9:42
https://youtu.be/MzuJCMV4sK8

=== PREVIOUS ===
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>>8925685
>FRITTATA

>build map upon encounters
>have problems connecting the setpieces

>build map upon architecture
>have problems building engaging encounters

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>8925867
Hahaha how is connecting setpieces difficult, just make a door lmao.

>makes a TC
>puts it into a fucking .wad
>in the year of 2021
i mean, i liked it but
why

>>8925932
Is it supposed to run on anything else but ZDoom? If not, then yeah, it's retarded.

>>8925932
I just saw some gameplay, those weapons are really fucking crusty.

>>8925947
just checked with zandronum, doesn`t work

>>8924419
Yep. Again, as other anon mentioned, there are modern DOOM games with good gibs. Just having something closer to SoF system instead of glory kills would be nice. Not tied to QTE or something like that.
>>8924453
>>8924489
lol
>>8925284
Bullshit. He just got burned out, basically. Being a perfectionist and working on the game for so many years would take its tole eventually. KillPixel got a point where he needed to take care of his mental health and spend some time with his family.
>WRATH has been an immensely significant part of my life for many years now. Since 2013 I’ve poured nearly all of my time and energy into the quest of making WRATH a reality. Very early on my wife and I knew that in order to achieve our goals and maximize the (incredibly slim) chances of success, we would need to completely restructure our lives around the project. So we did that, and it’s been one hell of a journey. And now, WRATH is real.
Also, he didn't fucked off from Wrath completely. He's still helping out the team with some technical stuff + dealing with modding tutorial for full release. Hell, he was active on 3D Realms' Discord server just a few days ago.

>>8925976
>lol
Hey I'm serious about my weird and gimmicky weapons. It's pretty much all I do.

>>8925979
Blessed niche-finder.
Ganbare, anon.

>>8925932
>>8925947
I'm a glue sniffing retard, why is making a tc .wad an issue?

made a shitpost https://vocaroo.com/1m2TAAG8XPYb

>>8926031
unlike an archive, you can`t sort shit into folders inside of a wad. you just end up with one huge list of lumps dumped into one place, especially with gameplay mods. good on you if it works, it`s just that nowadays there are better ways to get it working.

>>8925976
re:kp, that's what they'd say publically regardless of the actual reasons.
you can't actually expect him to come out and say something like "3DR CEO sucks dick" or "I can't stand this fairweather dude, so I'm leaving skacky to deliver on the preorders - whoops, he fucked off too, until next time suckers".

>>8925589
>Boss is dude with machinegun, Doom 2016 Hellknight leap attack, bigger and more health.
He's also real easy to cheese. You can sneak into the reception room before he spawns if you go to the nearest window to where you enter. If you don't get too close, this confuses the AI and he just runs back and forth letting you shoot him in the ass.

>>8926031
As >>8926047 said, you just have EVERYTHING in one place, sorted by markers.
A .pk3 (which is basically just a .zip) lets you sort shit into folders, making organization way easier. If you're making mods for (G)ZD, there is really not reason to use the wad format beyond "but I want to".

i play big scary wads with fwiendly eviwel marines. big scary wads not scary anymoe :DD

>>8923434
I wish I could do this in Goldsrc without needing to cheat and take the pixels I want lit up, isolate them onto a pure black background, and then apply them to a func_illusionary over what I want lit up
The game had it at one point but they took that feature out (or it only works in software mode)

I just realized how many linedefs conveyor belts and scrolling textures are going to cost me holy fuuuuuuck

Do you know any more vidya (even non-FPS like Severance will do) with tactical dismemberment mechanics?
I already got:
-Chasm
-SoF/2
-Vivisector
-DeadSpace
-Severance
-DieByTheSword

>>8926149
>using conveyors
>using scrollers
>using teleport closets
Nice Boom format you got there. Would be a shame if someone severely limited what you could do with it....
I voted for limit removing, don't @ me

>>8926159
I welcome the challenge motherfucker. I didn't use any Boom features during 400mins cuz I'm used to limit-removing too, so this'll be a good training exercise.

>>8926149
As in, five and one respectively?

>>8926162
Limit-removing brofist, I made my 400min in Doom format anyway.

Does the progs_dump supports modelswaps for 'monster-styles' or is it limited to reskins only?

>>8926164
I need switches to activate conveyors in different directions based on which switch you hit, so I also need a lift for multiple directions. I guess that would be... Seven lines for two direction, I think. Then there's switch-dressing... Ayayaya!
>>8926165
Yeah, you can do so much with vanilla(++) Doom functionality already. Altho I learned a thing or two about using Boom's features from other 400mins submissions. I'll probably go back later and look for more inspiration there. I'm plannin' on doin' two maps minimum.

>>8926150
Kiss: Psycho Circus - The Nightmare Child lets you chop dudes up, dunno if it does anything mechanical though.
Unreal's Razorjack can decapitate and bisect some enemies, and the bisection does change how the Krall work.

>>8926164
If your conveyor isn't supposed to be strictly on a timer, you'd need at least three lines for some kind of barrier and, provided it isn't already some kind of border line, another one for activation of that barrier.

>>8926169
I'm not sure what you're asking. You can swap models AND switch skins within a model.

>>8926189
Neil Manke did make a Wolf model for his Quake mods themed around SoF inc. TV-series (both 1&2) which is just a model-swapped Rottie gameplay-wise, but was wondering if /VR/ could make use of it as a monster variant for the randomizer

>>8926179
Come to think of it, even the teleport closet can be done with three lines.

>>8926204
All I can find in the files is this Fiend. It looks kinda retarded though.

>>8926214
That's just a baboon.

So, since 400min has been in RC2 for some time now, when can we expect the idgames release?

>>8925979
I'm serious. That's cool and fun. Should actually give your mods a go once my lazy ass gets to playing games again.
>>8926069
Not sure where your rumor originated from, I'm just saying what I've heard from a friend in the know. I wouldn't debate about fairweather being hard to work with since I truth anons' judgement and I don't think anymore should be surprised with skacky going over to Arkane given how he was just fed up with some people's reaction/attitude when it comes to Wrath.
I mean, seriously: dude worked on this DarkPlaces project (not that I know how retarded it actually get, but hey) for like 8 years. Eight fucking years. At some point you would just need a vacation.

>>8926214
My mind apparently went full-Mandela there :'(
The Q1 starshp2 has the '"wolf'" monster as a simple reskin of rotty
The Q2 SoFm4 is an even shoddier reskin despite it being in MD2 format

As compliment please have a look at this cool thing I found in that crazy Estonian's "circle of god" Q2 mod, no idea if this monster is custom-made or lifted from elsewhere though
it has no skin sadly

>>8926265
well, again, reading between the lines, if KP only just took said vacation, or if the release was just around the corner - there would be no point in an announcement like that. he could just silently pick his nose for a bit, sit it out, and the project would seem healthier. wouldn't even need to bend the truth or anything, he's the lead after all.
either he'd already been sick of it for a while (to the point that staying silent longer would invite more questions), or he doesn't see it coming out for years. or he's being forced out.
skacky jumping ship and Embracer buying all those titles soon after is funny timing btw, no matter how small the chance of a decent new Thief is.

>>8926257
I'm waiting on Tarnsman to stream the WAD to see if we missed anything.

>>8926349
Do we have an ETA or are you just assuming he will stream it eventually?

>>8926349
You could stream it yourself.

>>8926349
Who else has streamed or recorded it so far?

DBP29 credits its MAP10 midi to "MAP31 from sd.wad"
now the midi is actually just slowed down "Gryphone" from Tyrian, but what is sd.wad? it's not Speed of Doom or Sonic Doom.

>>8926507
Afaik just vile. https://twitch.tv/videos/1481278751

>>8926606
Actually found another one too
https://www.twitch.tv/search?term=400%20minutes%20of%20%2Fvr%2F

>decino is not even 30 yet
What

>>8926612
What, that jaesumgai guy?
Well, he didn't play any of MY maps!!

>>8926612
>Stream randomly cuts off
>No other video or continuation
What

>>8926396
He usually streams Saturdays and Sundays, it seems like he's going to do it after DBP47.

>>8926612
Oh yeah that's wololo
He's bad at bideo gaymes

>>8926149
Modern problems require modern solutions

>>8926293
you can make one out of the mapping

>>8926952
in fact this may even be a GLOOM monster skin

>>8926612
>>8926681
I'll get to more this weekend. Liking what I'm playing so far even if I'm getting rekt
>>8926840
Hey, I won one round of FNF that one time

You saved as many of them as you could, right?

>>8927072
Of course! Why wouldn't you go out of your way to save as many of them as you can?

>>8927072
I did, loved them. I felt even better once I knew how their goddess looked.

>>8927136

>>8927139
Different times man.

>>8926878
>stealing my idea without crediting me
Not very cash money of you ngl desu senpai

>>8926878
Make a diamond with a line splitting it. One side a lift, the line a teleporter.

>>8927179
Potentially better illustration.

>>8927072
It seems like Epic wanted you to go out of your way to kill them or watch them die. The ones that open secrets are always placed right next to enemies that kill them the moment they see you. There's also various parts where Nali are set up in traps that you can activate to kill them, and sniping the crucified one in Sunspire rewards you with a megahealth. I'd feel bad, but these skittish fuckers will refuse to help you if they get so much as tickled in the crossfire during a fight.

>>8927191
This is a good idea, and one I learned from a previous linedef-limiting project.
But why bother saving LD's when it's all about A E S T H I C S ??

>>8925690
So This video is outhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJHt7r7n7c

does this qualify for News? I've just been made aware of this Total Chaos mod for GZDooom.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/total-chaos

>>8927319
Old.

>>8927319
Also stop bringing e-faggots here.

>>8927319
It's been out for a while

>>8927319
Did you even click on the moddb link you posted? This mod is 4 years old and you are a faggot for linking to e-celebs.

>>8927439
>Nevermind.
This is the same schizo who would post these same ramblings here

>>8927439
>drop acid
>post on old shooter boards
Reminds me of that guy who went through here posting similarly nonsensical lists awhile back.

>>8925685
Anyone wanna play some Dwango50 later tonight?

>>8927363
Indeed true.
E-celebs and stuff directly related to them belong on /v/ and /vg/.

>>8927464
drugs and shitting up forums go hand and key

>>8926613
I will unsub from him if he's born after WTC

>>8926150
Well, MGR?

>>8927595
>fighter loli gives thanks
>considering terms general reaper
>best project kill
>neat trash
>evil can't count

>>8927439
If it isn't our old Thesaurus Rex

Gonna begin a new megawad soon. For those anons who have played TNT Revilution, how are the maps like? Big and explorative? Decent medium sized maps? Or short and punchy? Asking b/c last wad I played was Akeldama and those maps are HUGE.

Okay finished the demo, I swear to God I am never going to give shit for Ion Fury for being a bit meh on the character side. Selaco is shaping up to be faggotry central, a shame since it plays alright.

>>8927662
Some maps are large, though they're a lot tighter and better made than Drake O'Brien's original ones. It's a widely liked set of levels, and one of my favorites, doesn't QUITE capture the air of the original TNT, it's pretty different, but in a good way.

Expect some crunk music,

>>8926523
anyone?
it's not Suspended in Dusk, Songs of the Damned or Stardate either.

>>8926613
Sounded to me like he was in his 40s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ7TCGzS29w

uh oh

>>8927319
it was one of the most talked gzdoom tc's
>>8927662
it's really good and has one of the best takes on the ios

>>8927760
What's "uh oh" with 64? I don't want to watch that.

>>8927760
>indiegogo live now
Oh, right, Nightdive are shilling for that too.

I have doubts this documentary is going to be very objective with so many developers throwing money and promotion at them while they're also paying people like Icarus to promote it.

>>8925685
This is the only Doom WAD that matters outside MOON.wad
https://youtu.be/Ji9qSuQapFY
Fuck this gay fandom.

>>8927808
>dude, get it? it's a funny meme wad and not a sincere one that's actually fun
of course the /pol/ loser uses this one for the sake of irony poison
guess 4chan really is the disowned child of somethingawful
>>8927760
someone describe the video for me, i don't want to watch it
>>8927439
i remember some guy who really long "essays" here, as if he's mocking long essay youtubers

>>8927780

>>8927874
I'm 90 seconds in and there's no mention of Doom 64.

>>8927874
Nothing from an actual Doom 64 dev, most of it is just a Nightdive and LRG guy.

>>8927808
That's a bit much for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI6Ib7wVHbM

>>8927319
total chaos is news again because the developer is moving it to ue5

>>8927929
>total chaos is news (on the retro games board) again because it's no longer retro

>>8926294
>well, again, reading between the lines,
There's no need to do that everytime. Sometimes things are as simple as they appear to be.
>if KP only just took said vacation
Okay, that was bad wording on my part. The point I tried to make was that in situation like is, at some moment in time you will reach a point where you would need to step away from the frontlines, sort of speak. He hasn't abandoned the game completely and still helps, but in a way that lets him to enjoy life for once basically.
>he'd already been sick of it for a while (to the point that staying silent longer would invite more questions)
That's my guess based on what I said earlier. While I understand why people would lean towards suspecting the worse, this time I don't see much reason for that. Perhaps I'm just a stupid fucking shill, but I would rather chill and give 3D Realms some slack.
They have an incredible bad luck and that's just sad.
>>8927673
Okay, I thought Shelly was alright (although I understand why others don't), but how bad in comparison not-Shelly is?

>>8927946
I meant on the internet, in general, not here

>>8927947
She doesn't have lines yet so its hard to judge in an alpha version. The doom 3 style pda does set up some curious backstory

FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT TIME!! Tonight we're playing Team Deathmatch on Rottzone! Connect with Zandronum and let's get some frags on!
51.161.34.159:10666

>>8927979
The only thing I like is that the devs obviously love SS2. But I am not feeling it for now.

>>8927901
That is because all Doom64 devs are from Nettherealm now, and Warner is possibly cockblocking ed boon and tobias of talking about the development

>>8927136
bboooobbaa
('w')

>>8927979
>She doesn't have lines yet so its hard to judge in an alpha version.
good god i hope that doesn't change
unless you sound cool like caleb/duke or hilariously racist like lo wang then just don't talk

>>8927996
I am on the opposite end. I really liked what is here and I'm pumped to play the new demo version soon. HUD could use some tweaking because it has a tendency to become obstrusive.

>>8928038
Selaco devs mentioned on twitter she wont talk much outside of exposition scenes

>>8928045
There’s also a few voice options to suit my needs.
I was under the impression that I’d run into Viscerafest levels of quirkiness but it’s been thankfully far less offensive.

>>8928065
Ye there's a story-only or full mute. Basically 4chan countermeasures

>>8928038
Lo wang is not racist. Unless you think all fun stereotypes are racism. I dont. In fact lo wang is funny and kicks ass.

>>8928071
Sad thing is that Low Wang was a piss take of a lot of stuff that kind of was racist, but that nuance fell flat on Flying Wild Hog who outright said the original was racist so they changed the character in the not-so-great reboot series.

>>8928071
Lo Wang's still my favorite of the Build heroes.

>>8928083
I want to say caleb but they didn't fully explore what it could have been. Especially such a great start with ophelia being dead and all.

But for me wang edges out Duke as well but only by a little. Duke is great but you expect Duke to say stupid shit and occasional smart shit but no, he remains simple.

Lo Wang however they were having true fun, he's unhinged but not lol random, and genuine makes me smirk. That fucking shuriken quote. shit.

>>8928101
Caleb is a bit more of a character in his own right, 3D Duke and Lo Wang are more cultural parody vehicles.

>>8928101
>ROW ROW YOUR BOAT, A-GENTERY DOWN THA STREAM! OOH I TINK MY DINGHY HANGIN OUT!
>HARRO? IS AN IVA THERE? IVA BIG BOTTOM?
>HARRO? IS YOUR ARERIDGERATOR RUNNING? BETTA GO CATCH IT! HAA HA!!

>>8928108
Yes that is what I mean, but maybe because they couldn't , speaking for the original campaign here they didn't fully explore Caleb. I feel like hes missing stuff and more story content. I think they wanted to expand shit and then blood 2 happened.

>>8928110
These are the least funny.
>>8928108
I think that's been part of his lasting appeal in addition to the tone and setting. I haven't been able to find the same amount of quality campaigns in the other two major build games (I'm not counting RR, sorry Leonard).

>>8928126
>these are the least funny
Disagree, they're my favorite.

>>8928040
She looks like an even more boring Shelly.

I like Lo Wang's one-liners but pretty much every joke he does makes me groan. I'm not even against stereotypical accent jokes or anything but they went with all the most obvious ones so it just feels lazy.

>>8928128
>Disagree, they're my favorite.
The same quotes that get mentioned every time SW's humor gets brought up? Wow who would have thought.

>>8928138
Whats the best way to play SW today?

>>8928138
I'm a simple man and I have a tendency to repeat myself.

>>8928147
I know, it sucks.
>>8928146
VoidSW, BuildGDX, or Raze, they're all good and each have their own options.

>>8928135
That's the thing he goes from very shit stuff to catching of guard, like the trip mines, or saying that the vehicle in level 2 does not start up cause its american made.

>>8928151
Yeah and the worst thing is I have a tendency to repeat myself.

>>8928151
What about classic redux? Does it have some issues?

>>8928160
There's an issue with the mines and the hud's kind of ugly, it's otherwise alright and free.

>>8928162
I played Duke and Blood to the end recently and back in the day but never played Shadow Warrior. Now that I have some time after these two crazy years I think I going to play it.

>>8928168
It's great

>>8927136
Look at the way the top boobs sit on the bottom boobs man gotdam

>>8927193
I like the kinky ones who stay on their crosses even after the lizzies are toasted

Setting aside the humor of Shadow Warrior, I really enjoy the soundtrack too.

https://youtu.be/R60Ex9D0Au4

My favorite Wang lines are
>Banzai!
>Just like Hiroshima!

>>8928162
>There's an issue with the mines
Specifically the model for it renders underground.

>>8928184
I actually like it overall more than Duke3D's soundtrack, especially the title theme.

>>8927979
>She doesn't have lines yet
There is one, I managed to get her to say "need to find some ammo". I think it's tripped if you reload without enough ammo to fill a mag, but it only happened once.

>>8928293
I meant the story dialogues! But yes I once had a ''Last mag''

Jerma's Doom coming along nicely

>>8927995
>51.161.34.159
Where is it?

>>8928423
Already wrapped up, sorry boss.

>>8927760
>Bunch of 40 year olds saying cliches in docudrama format
who the fuck watches this

>>8928069
Even with those she still looks like crap.

>>8928427
New Blood Interactive and a bunch of other "retro FPS" studios who have funded and marketed for it.

It's basically just an industry circlejerk.

>>>/wsg/4534287 #

ugh stupid webm converter wouldnt compress lower than 2.14MB and it was driving me crazy

not if its at 256x144, or 480x360. Not 50 kbps or 500 (bitrate)

>>8928493
Texture filtering? Come on man, I can somewhat excuse Brootal Dewm but texture filtering? Really, nigga?

>>8928507
texture filtering? whats that?

>>8928507
I wish someone could get that 3 point filtering doom 64 has hacked into GZD that a anon posted here and didnt looked like shit.

>>8928514
It makes all the pixels blurry

>>8928514
It's smudging, is what it is.

>>8928519
I turn that off in ports.

>>8928427
The most interesting "making of" is always either "it didn't get made cuz it was too ambitious" or "fucking nothing worked and everyone was a cunt but we've pulled through".

I don't get why everything has to be a magical fairy tale story, real life stories are more engaging when something fucks up.
Talk about fun stuff say something more other than "HEY GUYS, DOOM, IT'S REALLY COOL".

>>8928507
>BRUTAL DOOM LE BAD BECAUSE IT IS LE TOO VIOLENT

>>8928537
anon, that is GZD filtering, which is naturally shit.

what anon posted here, made D64 textures look real good and sharp at the same time.

>>8928425
What are you talking about?
It's not my birthday.
Unwrap it.

>>8928560
that isn't douk, is sikorsky from BAKI.

For the LOVE OF GOD PLEASE, SOMEONE make an FPS version of SYNTHETIK that would be SO CASH I WOULD LITERALLY SUCK YOUR FUCKING COCK BRO

>>8927760
I want to slit Romero's fat fucking throat. Fucking cringe lord faggot

>>8928493
Work on your compression. I record all my shit at 1600x900 and then process it through webm for idiots, halving the size to 800x450

>>8928560
Where were you 3 hours, 54 minutes and 11 seconds ago when the event started? Maybe this will teach you to be on time

>227/229 items + supercharge near the exit
Outfuckingskilled. I'm not even mad. RIP my OCD.

>>8928560

>>8928383
Oh nice, so that's what that picture was about. Saw you post the room in an earlier screenshot.
You liking ZDoom editing then, yea? You using UDMF format, or...?

>>8928596
original recording was 1920x1080@60fps doe and the webm was 1280x720 trimmed down to 9 seconds no change to bitrate although its not 60fps

>>8928652
Trim it down to half size, because getting 9 seconds out 3 megs with footage that crusty is pretty bad.

>>8928493
that video takes me back

time to tas episode 2

>>8928657
it was downloaded from youtube however

I was moving so fast and the blood particles

>>8928662
No excuse there. I record my shit with OBS and process it through webm for idiots, you got a lot to learn.

>>8928620
Isn't this AOD Doom?

>>8928610
refreshing the fucking thing waiting for it to pop up

>>8928667
shut the fuck up you retard

I dont give a shit about a stupid webm

my video was crisp

>>8928706
Okay buddy you just tell yourself that

>>8928707
okay kill yourself faggot
brainless npc cuckold

>>8928717

>>8928721
Reminder this kid got doxed on /sg/ for being an obnoxious twat

Tarns is streaming 400 Minutes of /vr/ GOGOGOGOGO
https://www.twitch.tv/tarnsmandw

>>8928756
He liked the title screen. We made it bois. Critically acclaimed.

SCREENSHOT SATURDAY, STOP PROCRASTINATING YOU LAZY BASTARD

>>8928796
Ah, I see you belong to the inferior timezone

>>8928796
It's friday over here, you silly bastard.

>>8928801
>>8928802
>living in the past

>>8928796
t. mark

>>8928806
Anon. Everything I make is saturated in NES references. I fucking eat, breathe, and shit the past.

>>8928135
Yeah, I felt like they went a bit too far with the middle-school humor. Thats probably why few people remember Lo Wang, he's just a retard, not at all relatable or cool like Duke. Good game though.

>>8928796
Very much still WIP, but the Romero fight update is progressing - https://files.catbox.moe/h57qy0.mp4
Obviously I need to make his step trigger taller and fix pathing around the back of the columns. Still, Romero able to stomp through everything instead of getting stuck on wooden scaffolds should make the fight moderately less shit.
The lightning from the destroyed columns will be a bit of a double-edged sword. They'll help stave off the increased number of enemies, but they can also damage you if you're not careful. I'm also contemplating making some sort of healing beam that will pop out of the ceiling and start healing Romero after his health drops below a certain point until you destroy it.
The upper part of the level has also been expanded dramatically, but that's just blockouts at the moment.

Are you ready for the wave of insufferable Marathon discourse later this month?

>>8928981
lol

>>8928981
>insufferable Marathon discourse
I do look forward to witnessing that which I am incapable of imagining.

>>8928990
Holy shit, I love this.

>>8929000
Thanks, I drew it myself.

whats that one map that takes place on the moon or something?

>>8928172
ehh, “great” is a bit strong...

Do you guys have any beginners tips on simple architecture? I'm just stuck with square buildings and the occasional eclipse.

>>8928981
>later this month
There's Marathon anniversaries in May?

>>8928796
Finally finished the layout, short map with slaughter in the end, somehow managed to use all 3 keys.

>>8927319
>pyro "living embodiment of ironic detachment" cynical
of all the e-celebs, you choose to follow some of the lowest scum. *and* you brought him here too.

https://youtu.be/p7teWKiWcAI

>>8927979
>The doom 3 style pda does set up some curious backstory
Depression/anxiety thing from previous thread? Relatable, I guess.
>>8928796
>STOP PROCRASTINATING YOU LAZY BASTARD
I can't. ):

>>8920816
>>8925690
Take my first submission:
"You're Not The Kind That Needs To Tell Me About The Birds And The Bees" by RancidSam
https://mega.nz/file/J01HkCLC#zOTJnDdB_dObiH6n0N-JgPnGX5O4daQhGNhf6ngTLDY
You can shorten the name in (U/Z)MAPINFO to "You're Not The Kind That Needs To Tell Me". so it fits on the end screen.

>>8929185
Holy shit that corpse must have done 3pl8 before he got eviscerated, look at those GLOOTS!

what does /vr/ think of cyclones?
only thing i remember is the juggernaut guy

>>8929054
What's bad about it? Asking curiously cause it's probably my favorite FPS game.

>midi sounds like it ends around par time
>actually has an encore, then loops perfectly

I pressed something in DSDA-Doom that makes automap rotate with me and now I don't know how to unpress it.

>>8929395
R, should be in the controls

>>8929413
It works, thanks.

Will there ever be a non-faggot zdoom fork worth looking into?

>>8929432
God can't you dumb faggots just shut up for one second? Make your own one if you don't like it, although it would certainly be the faggiest of them all.

>>8928756
It seems I'm retarded, but I can't find the video anywhere.

>>8929441
it's the dbp one, skip to 40 minutes in

>>8929445
ohhh turns out I *am* retarded, thanks, anon.

>>8928796
Starting another 512LD submission.
>>8929094
Fuckin' lush. I look forward to playing it.

>>8927808
There's some irony in you not realizing who made that, dude.

>>8928676
Yep. It's surprisingly great so far, even though you can see how old it is.
I like the level design and encounters, being TC for original Doom and not Doom II helps a lot (no ambushes 24/7, no revenants/archs spam 24/7/365), and the spammed sound samples are so fucking annoying and obnoxious you start to want to kill everyone including yourself, authors captured the mood almost perfectly.

>watch Tarnsman stream 400min
>fireblu room kills the bitrate again
I love it. Shame I can't make another room like this for 512 because the UAC textures lack the fireblu flats.

>>8926960
>>8926952
Say should I catbox the model for confirmation?
Almost all of the mods '"new'" monsters are using hacked playermodels or reskins from what I can understand

does anyone remember when drpyspu made a e1m1 recreation that combined the level's layout and its appearence in the intermission screen?
i also love how pyspy and amuscaria make sprites out of 3d models

>>8929345
>only thing i remember is the juggernaut guy
The mob who uses the same sprite as Baratus the fighter?

>watch Tarnsman stream 400min
>he keeps going on about boss monsters being unfun and terrible
>can feel Chopblock seethe

With people complaining about indie FPS trying too hard to be fast, isn't that partially admitting that the appeal of these games was just the variety?
The guns, enemies, items, levels and how the stuff is used...
Doom and Quake's staying powers came from those games essentially being "sandboxes" which is also why people made romhacks of platformers and all
I guess anyone that insisted that Quake should stay a pro multiplayer focused series suddenly struggling with the Marauder in Doom Eternal feels like carpal tunnel getting onto them

Never mapped with restrictions/not GZdoom settings. This is all I should have for the 512 linedefs of vr right?

>>8929651
>forgetting image

>>8929656
Yes, correct. Expect to miss a lot of qol features UDMF has.
If you have never mapped in Boom I would even advise you to just make a map in Doom format, because getting used to all the random Boom peculiarities takes some time.

>>8920816
>>8925690
Submission for 512 linedefs
https://files.catbox.moe/lj1r0l.wad
"Egg shell sandwich" by Hand-peeled
Music: "Angry Science" by Xaser Acheron
Not particularly efficient with linedefs but whatever

>>8929660
I mean I think I've mapped in it a long time ago, but that would be years back. Won't mapping in Doom format mean I'll potentially screw up my admission (unintentionally)? I'm fine with having to deal with some random peculiarities

>>8929664
There should be no problem with that, only difference is that you won't be able to use new Boom additions.

>>8929664
>Won't mapping in Doom format mean I'll potentially screw up my admission (unintentionally)?
Nah, you can play every Doom format map in Boom, but obviously not the other way round.
For example my submission for 400min was regular Doom format, tested in Crispy Doom only and so far it seems to have worked for everyone.

>>8929606
their design was different in some aspects but they did look alike
it's also the kind of design you see in a colorfull hell boss
he's on realm667, in the heretic beastiary section too

>>8928493
shadow warrior did decades ago what brootal dewm dreams of doing

These GZDoom projects are really getting out of hands.

>>8929636
I can’t recall the last time someone was in here commenting on these indie shooters trying too hard to be fast, nor the last time someone was in here saying Quake should only be for the multiplayer or even complaining about Eternal’s enemies. As good as they are, I also don’t think Quake and Doom would have the same staying power they have today if we were limited to using their stock and vanilla assets these past three decades.

>>8928934
I don't get the romero's head, is turned around?

>>8929825
Yeah, they look pretty, they have all these fancy new features, they have 3d models and they've got all this stuff you could never do with vanilla Doom.

But are they more fun to play than vanilla Doom maps?

>>8929608
I don't remember him doing that, so maybe he did that after I fell asleep.
Hopefully I can change his mind.

>tarnsman 400 minutes of vr stream
As always, he pisses me off with his zoom zoom ADHD, as it always shows in maps with just a tiny bit more complicated progression than straight linear.
Other than that he's a good chap, a pretty good player, and never fails to review our wads

>>8929909
What is his channel on twitch again? Lost my browser history recently.

>>8929909
Isn't he in his 30s?

>>8929895
As long as they are fun to shoot I dont mind. Maybe working form the down p is better to make good games than form an engine from top to down.

Its a good engine to fuck around.

>>8929921
It was posted earlier in the thread.

>>8929931
Maybe, but his short attention span is so frustrating to watch sometimes
>>8929921
TarnsmanDW
btw, who's the brit sounding guy he plays with? and the other guy too

>>8929949
>who's the brit sounding guy he plays with?
I don't know his name, but he's a Nightdive employee.
>and the other guy too
MTrop. He was on the old Evolution of the WAD series.

Terrible monster ideas for doom mod:
>Exploding lost soul
>Invisible lost soul that becomes visible and vulnerable only when charging
>Invisible lost soul that becomes visible and vulnerable only when charging that also explodes on death
>Pain elemental that spits invisible lost souls that become visible and vulnerable only when charging

>>8929964
>Invisible pain elemental that becomes visible and vulnerable only when spitting invisible lost souls that become visible and vulnerable only when charging

>>8929964
>Terrible monster ideas for doom mod
Pain elementals.

>>8929964
archvile/iron lich hybrid where the main attack locks on the player and makes them spin around, causing disorientation and making the player think they have a broken mouse

Does Quake have console commands that I could use to locate that one missing enemy? I'm so close to 100% completing AD's Leptis Magna, but one stubborn enemy remains and I can't find him.

Something like "list the coordinates of all enemies"? Or anything.

(This is the third time I've played this map, if I have to cheat to get the last enemy, then so be it. It's not the first time an enemy has failed to teleport in and I've had to noclip to find him.)

>>8929978
not sure if it would work for AD, but for vanilla you can open your save file in notepad and just ctrl+f "monster_" or "classname" "monster_
I think AD may keep corpses as thinking entities, so you're gonna have to find the one with above zero health.
another way is typing "edicts", then "condump", and then looking through condump.txt in your ad folder, same idea.

>>8927595
It brings me joy to know I am making the only reply to the tardball so far. Maybe this fad is finally passing away.

To (You): stop being an NPC and post an original human thought about boomer shooters

>>8927632
>>8929992
DAMN IT, NEVERMIND

>>8927595
>forget zdoom, post always better design, anon!
>play DOOM map

>>8929978
oh right, once you know the straggler's coordinates you'll still have to orient yourself somehow. there's probably some better way, but I just do "bind mouse2 viewpos" and noclip around spamming the command.

I'm out of ideas. I'm playing Golden Souls 2 and I'd like to disable this text in the image, I've tried all "hud_" commands but no luck. Is there a Golden Souls 2 specific command to this? What can I do?

On lvl 3 of shadow warrior now, it's pretty fun holy shit. But yeah it seems weirdly a bit more stiff than Duke, in Duke you move and pipe bomb stuff easier and the kick is great. In blood the movement is ultra smooth the best honestly.

>>8929992
nah, word cloud is alright, I think it server an archival and chronical purpose - for example when the 2001 DNF build leaked it was the first time ever a word became bigger thand "doom" - it was "duke"

>>8930038
Excuse me?

>>8927595
>graf feels dogshit

>>8929365
It is good and every time I play I end up playing for a good amount of time, but some issues I have with it:
>Constant chip damage from fires
>Constant damage from hitscanners (you can get lucky and take out a bunch without getting hit, but even on lower difficulties you always get randomed by some guy in the background)
>Weapons: Because of how fast you get damage you’re best off using explosives like Blood (which are great), but it makes half the weapons novelties that barely make any sense to use.
>Useless items: The invisibility thing is good, but the flash grenade, caltrops are basically useless and the gas grenade is good but locks you off from an area for way too long
>Only one enemy has a unique death animation for your sword reee
>Bad enemy design: Red pant guys are quick kills while red-brown pant guys 360 ninjutsu you and eat bullets

IDK it just feels like a missed opportunity. At best it plays like Blood lite but most of the time it plays like Duke 3D Ninja edition with a few added annoyances

>>8930063
oh damn, well that proves my point even more
cloud is cool

>>8930019
SW forgoes the kick in favor of some of the most viable “melee slots” for shooters of that era. I can’t comment on movement “stiffness” since they all feel pretty good to me, but I found Duke and Redneck to be the stiffest with switch weapons.
I also wish SW followed Blood’s example in handling the shotgun’s altfire. Far from a dealbreak, though.

Ok, get this. Aracnotron, but each projectile explodes like a rocket. That'll show 'em

>>8930075
Will agree about “useless item” concerns but not much else. It runs into the similar Build issue of having really good explosive options, but you can also run into this with Doom’s continuous play and hoarding rockets for anything difficult. The “bad enemy design” with the ninjas is more with their sprites: They needed more than just a pants recolor.
Doesn’t feel like a “””missed opportunity””” in any way.

>>8929978
>Over 2hrs
Ngmi loser

>>8929990
>>8930006
IT WAS A FUCKING LOST SOUL

THEY WERE TROUBLE IN DOOM, AND AD BROUGHT THEM TO QUAKE

AAAAAAAAA!

I remembered Quake savegames are plaintext, so I used Python to craft a simple (and very ugly) tool for searching entities with above zero health in savegame files, and print their classnames and bounding boxes, then I used "viewpos" to locate them. A lost Lost Soul was stuck in the alcoves in the Serpentine room.

I finally 100%'d Leptis Magna. I'm at peace. Thanks for the tips, anons.

>>8930128

>>8929964
Archvile that resurrects other archviles, once the normal archviles get resurrected they are "infected" and can do the same

>>8929964
revenants with jetpacks that drift off like cacos when hit

>>8929964
Chaingunner dangling from a balloon that lets it fly like it's out of this game.

>>8930097
It feels more stiff to me. Duke feels nice, Blood feels the best.
I can play Duke and Blood with no auto aim, here it seems the uzis and shotgun work better. Maybe its the enemy roster or the way mouse works in shadow warrior.
I have been using more items to survive than the other games.

>>8930073
how do you get a view of a map from that perspective?

>>8930189
Like Duke, enemies in SW can dart about in a different direction suddenly and randomly. On top of that SW enemies will occasionally go real fucking fast. I’ve found D3D and SW much more enjoyable with “hitscan only” aim assist.
Blood’s enemy movement is rarely that erratic and is much more predictable. They’ll seldom change directions at random and will always try to steer towards you, and there’s always a set turn speed they can’t exceed. Most of them are also pretty slow. Due to all this, I can play much more enjoyably without aim assist.

>>8930206
wad2pic
It's an application that lets you generate isometric views of maps.
Pretty robust, tho I don't think it's being developed actively any more, and maps can come out looking kind of weird unless you bother to fuck with the command line arguments.

What are your favorite gameplay mods for Doom/Doom 2?
Looking for something to spice up map packs with new toys to play with.

>>8930378
LTG will always be my favorite

>>8929895
>But are they more fun to play than vanilla Doom maps?
Dunno, are Boom maps more fun to play than vanilla Doom maps?
Are slaughter maps more fun to play than other maps?
What kind of dumb fucking argument are you making?

>>8930382
>are Boom maps more fun to play than vanilla Doom maps?
Yes.

>>8930386
Dangerously cheesy take, anon.

Trying out the Q1 Zeströer mod first time over 20 years too late, those flying wizard dudes are a serious pain on the butt. . .

>>8930391
Boom is close enough to vanilla, with just more features.

Wasn't there a map last year or so that remade the first few doom 2 maps in duke nukem's style? I recall the first map flowing smoothly into the canals specifically.Might've been a single map.

>>8929964
>Lost souls now become Pain Elementals when they die

>>8930397
Boom fixes some vanilla bug that I fucking despise. I don't know what it is off the top of my head, but that automatically validates my preference for Boom without any further arguments needed.
Checkmate, Carmack.

>>8930403
>. I don't know what it is off the top of my head, but that automatically validates my preference for Boom without any further arguments needed.
>Boom ist just good because... IT IS OK?!??!
Quintessential Boom autist post

>>8930378
High Noon Drifter, Treasure Tech, Ashes Weapons, GMOTA, Combined_Arms(but I mostly play with the Past-Linked set).

>>8930421
>Boom autist
Hello UDMF-chan!

>>8930380
>>8930423
Thanks.

>>8930425
Ahh, Boom-kun. Still making kuso maps with kuso ice platforming, ehhhh?!?!

tfw cant share the epic 1080@60fps epicness that occured in the last two levelorinos of ep1 in a webm :/ >>8928493

the only place you can enjoy it is youtube

>>8930378
final doomer and voyage infernal are clean gzdoom gun mods that'll work on basically every wad. black ops is a great dehacked smooth doom black glove set but because it's dehacked it won't fly with eviternity or other wads with heavy dehacked work.

>>8929781
didnt ask dont care

axes are way cooler than swords anyway

>>8930481
>that green glow near the barrels
Are those regular "lights" from GZDoom?

>>8930378
I usually prefer Walpurgis with Heretic/Hexen, but it supports Doom, and there are some Doom mapsets that work well with it in my opinion.

>>8930313
Does it accept pwads, deh files and such?

>>8930502
I think it accepts PWADs, tho to be honest I haven't gotten to into it. The github docs would tell you more. Mostly I just use Slade to copy textures from tex packs, but I don't use anything DeHackEd. I think the author mentioned custom monsters working though, so if that's true then I don't see how else it would work besides taking .deh's (it could have just been custom monster sprites tho.)

>>8930483
you're right anon

that webm was cool and does prove axes>swords

>>8928796
nobody is going to play this shit anyway

>>8930486
yeah that's hardware rendering, because i have dynamic lights on. there's also ssao on in that shot, the blood splats are a thing too. all that shit still works at 711x400. i actually use eternity engine when i want to play 'pure', and only because no options in dsda actually work and pr+ won't let me bind my mouse wheel.

>>8930525
>vines
I will play your fucking shit motherfucker, so you better post it.

>>8930546
still in the works, couple of months at this rate. Jungle is not the main theme though.

>>8930378
Dakka, Wrath of Cronos, GMOTA, Combined_Arms, Space Hunter, La Tailor Girl, Legendoom, Trailblazer, Heretical Doom

>>8930549
>couple of months at this rate
Then quit dogging yourself nigger. If you put in the honest effort, then even if it takes a while, people will play it. Some may even love it.
But you won't know 'til you finish, so get to workin'.

>>8930556
from my experience those faggots at Doomworld do not value quality mapping, only circlejerking. Doesn't matter how much effort you put into stuff, if you're not sucking dick 24/7 over there nobody will give a shit about your maps.

>>8930568
Not really, but it's hard to get noticed. You can always have a community project, that's always fun.

So, after all the hype died from it, was Sigil all that good?

To me it seemed pretty average with a pretty shitty boss fight at the end of the last level, and I don't see how it'd have got that attention of it weren't by John Romero.

>>8930526
>and pr+ won't let me bind my mouse wheel.
I thought that was just me, thought I was going nuts.
>>8930378
There’s a “vanilla BUT” mod from one of our own anons that’s called Babel.

>>8930568
>from my experience those faggots at Doomworld do not value quality mapping
Well, these faggots here do, so make your fuckin' map and quit giving yourself shit.

>>8930568
This is something I've noticed, unless you're somebody they consider notable, your maps and opinions of stuff aren't just worthless to them, they don't exist and you're flat out invisible to them.

>>8930578
I thought Sigil was good. The biggest thing against it for me was the lack of the new enemies from 2.

>>8930568
Who gives a shit what Doomworld thinks? You tryna' win a Cacoward or something?
That attitude—it isn't very cash money of you. What if your project goes on to inspire someone who makes something YOU like? It gives you more to play.
Extend your soul into the greater collective human conscience, you closed-third-eye negrito.

>>8930578
I liked it. Better episode to Doom 1 than what ultimate doom gave us. It makes super shotgunnies seethe.

>>8930568
>caring about doomworld
ngmi

>>8930568
Just because some tranny cocksuckers on the other side of the planet don't give a shit about what you do doesn't mean that YOU shouldn't give a shit about what you do. We care, but that shouldn't matter either. Make quality maps for YOURSELF, nigger. Don't be down about it, having a positive mentality if half the battle. Work hard, fight hard, play hard, and you will die a happy man.

Is Blood: Fresh Supply the best modern port?

In Boom editing, I can't make it so that a player passing a linedef will teleport things with tag x to sector/linedef y, can I?

>>8929636
whoever that was,he certainly doesn't speak for me.
though other appealing elements are the enemy rosters and weapons arsenals.
>>8930665
i prefer raze.

>>8930568
You will never be a good mapper if you keep this attitude up, only caring about recognition. You probably made this post for a validation, attention whoring faggot. Prioritize the joy of mapping, not being recognized. Otherwise, you may as well give up now and die with the rest, numbnuts.

>>8930672
No, you'll have to make an oldschool teleport closet, though Boom's conveyors, wind and silent teleports offer more to work with than vanilla.

>>8930695
Thought so, thanks

>>8930568
Then why put any weight on what Doomworld thinks?

>>8925685

>>8925685
Should I really play Doom 1 and 2 or should I just play modded content? I played the first game up to E2M2 and I didn't really like it.

>>8930725
Some people really want their maps to be seen outside of these threads, and I guess they see Doomworld as not as shit as the ZDoom forum.

>>8930732
thx doc

>>8930743
I mean, I get that, but the thing is also that Doomworld isn't the entirety of the Doom fandom, there are other forums out there, there are recurring threads on chans like these and others, there are Discord channels and even entire Discord servers dedicated to Dooming, there's Dooming on Twitch and on YouTube.
Are these all constantly good? No, maybe not, but Doomworld sure as hell isn't, its golden days are long over and people shouldn't put too much weight on them. They do what they do, which sometimes is good and sometimes isn't, and they engage in a bunch of stupid shit that's unimportant for the rest of us.

>>8930741
Which difficulty did you play on, and what didn't you enjoy about the gameplay?

>>8930741
Try going through 2. If it gets sloggy, try going straight to Plutonia.
>>8930665
It is not. Nblood and BuildGDX are the best. Raze is also good and uses Nblood.
Fresh Supply isn’t as embarrassing as it used to be and if you already have it you can go ahead and play the main levels through it and it’ll be fine. But if you’re on the fence about grabbing it then don’t, just get it through the mega and download one of the better + free ports.

>>8930743
I don’t care about Doomworld as much as I care about idgames

>>8930568
If you care about what DW (or any other outside forum for that matter) thinks, why don't you fuck off and go there, then?

>>8930546
just for you I added some more vines.

>>8930672
No, Boom doesn't allow tagging things directly.

>>8930756
I played on Ultra-Violence. Navigating through levels feels awful, I don't like the level design and exploring for secrets feels like a chore.
Also, I wish there was something between Ultra-Violence and Nightmare where enemies are a bit faster but don't respawn every 15 seconds.

>>8930780
Sounds like Doom isn't for you, then.

>>8930780
>Navigating through levels feels awful, I don't like the level design and exploring for secrets feels like a chore.
Doom very much holds on to dungeon crawler sensibilities in its level design. I like the exploratory downtime between combat encounters.
>I wish there was something between Ultra-Violence and Nightmare where enemies are a bit faster but don't respawn every 15 seconds.
There is, pic related.

>>8930780
The navigation can go 2 ways; it can be a corridor railway of carefully sculpted experiences end to end with hard gates to allow the renderer to eat as much as possible, like Halo or Call of whatever, or it can be a sprawling maze you're expected to navigate and explore. You might be in the wrong mindset.

Also you can use -fast to get double speed monsters and enemy projectiles then play on uv. You can also use -respawn to make enemies respawn on uv, not that you want that, just saying.

>>8930780
Well, there is the FastMonsters option, which will make the monsters react faster, fire more often, and for Pinkies, move and bite twice as fast, so UV + Fast is basically the inbetween you're looking for.
The monsters aren't QUITE as fast as on Nightmare, but the difference is subtle, also they don't respawn.

Fact of the matter though is that Doom 1 is easy on UV if you have much prior FPS experience, and Doom 2 is only kinda harder. Perhaps you'd enjoy Final Doom more.

>>8929497
from the thumbnail I figured this was a super soulful HUD that had 4 counters in each corner of the screen like some mech or something

>>8930118
I'd argue that Doom and Quake are way tighter and the explosives aren't head-and-shoulders more effective. In Doom they serve the purpose for groups + strong demons and in Quake you run a bit lower on ammo and the balance is completely different with shotgun being a sidearm and rockets being a normal weapon.

DESU I just think the original Build games are all weaker than the original IdTech games though.

>>8930787
how do I enable also coop for myself?

>>8930798
>I'd argue that Doom and Quake are way tighter and the explosives aren't head-and-shoulders more effective.
You don’t need to argue at all about how much tighter they are, but I don’t know what you’re on about regarding explosives in those two id games: The rocket launcher in Doom is clearly better than every weapon before it and the explosives in Quake are even better.
What build games had over those two shooters - at the time - was much more interesting and elaborate level design. That’s kind of a moot strength these days considering what you can now do for Doom and Quake maps.

>>8930814
>The rocket launcher in Doom is clearly better than every weapon before it

>>8930804
doom -fast -host 1 works for gzdoom, but so would hitting the console with:
map e2m2 coop

If you are using that you can toggle fast monsters or multiplayer thing spawning from the gameplay options menu pretty easily.

>>8930815
You can also run pointblank like a retard to every enemy and assume the rocket launcher sucks that way, too. This is why people complain about Quake frequently.

>>8930816
>>8930804
-solonet -fast

oops

>>8930816
>>8930481
Are these maps naturally so dark, or is it some kind of SSAO/other kind of GZDoom stuff?

>>8930768
God bless ya', anon.
Luvs me some verdancy, simple as.

Every time I run out of ideas, I go back browsing through early 90s maps and steal their most interesting rooms. Does that make me a bad guy?

>>8930831
The ssao really just adds definition on all the corners and overhangs, most of the shots I've been picking are just dark. I put GZDoom's lighting on dark, actually, because the 'software' named one still has less contrast than the hard-stepping the palette luminosity tiers enforced.

>>8929973
I brilliant anon once said to me,
>"Just dick em down with your Chaingun"
and I still think that whenever I see a Buttpain Elemental

>>8930845
Chaingun, or getting right in their face with the SSG is the best way to deal with them. Of course, if it gets a bit too crazy then Plasma is a good option as well

>>8930768
Based. Keep it up.

>>8930814
>explosives
The difference in SW is more that you're going to get hit multiple times if you enter a room with Swords, Shurikens, Uzis, often the shotgun, and the Railgun if there's more than one enemy. So your only real choice is to use the 3 explosive weapons and stand at a doorway.

In Doom you can get by using any weapon, use some more effectively on different enemies, and only need to break out your rocket/plasma/BFG for tough demons or when you literally have nowhere to step.

>>8930859
>The difference in SW is more that you're going to get hit multiple times if you enter a room with Swords, Shurikens, Uzis, often the shotgun, and the Railgun if there's more than one enemy.
Thank fuck it’s fun as hell mixing those and the explosive options to kill everything. You minimize the damage taken by fast kill speeds and using bits within the levels to block line-of-sight appropriately.

>>8930578
I liked it more than 75% of actual Doom 1 but I never really feel like playing Doom 1 so I haven't revisited it. Excited for Sigil 2 though.

>>8929838
huh?

just finished e2 on UV (brutal doom)

was okay. Wasnt too hard

Im getting ready to tas it

I find that if i scope in with the rpg I can hit the cyberdemon pretty easilyorino. The boss fight wasnt too hard

finna do replays of it until i know where everything is

>>8930961
i was primarily motivated by how cool the later levels of e1 playthrough looked like

I used more axe and chainsaw

I wonder how it'll turn out in nightmare

It has certainly helped that I have been aim training

also what is all this stuff below horiz/vert sensitivity? I set it all to 1.0 because I think they're sensitivity multipliers

in what ways does brutal doom differ from project brutality? I've always heard about brutal doom and thought that I was playing it but I guess I've always played project brutality which is something else altogether?? but they seem similar????

>>8931001
less weapon bloat

you must use a weapon wheel with project brutality

>>8930787
I dont think fastmonsters is that great of a middleground personally, if only because of how it fucks with aggressiveness. A lot of times it just turns projectile enemy encounters into stationary bullet hells.

>>8931001
one major advantage of BD for me is being able to disable reloading.
reloading feels awful in DOOM.

Maybe in 50 years our new beirutmoot will allow us to upload webms with sound. It just doesn't feel right without that scream.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1653167412739.webm
once again, I'm not even mad

>>8931007
I don't use a weapon wheel with PB lol
>>8931018
interesting, I agree reloading doesn't suit the pace at all

>>8931001
Better sprites and more enemy abilities, more graphical effects as well. More of the same with more polish. Still not a big fan of it or BD.

109 linedefs in and no idea how to progress.
A few vague thoughts and ideas in my head, but no idea how to connect all that shit.

>>8930378
WHY are the viewmodels not centered it pisses me off

>>8931007
Project Brutality is bloat in general really, most of it is them harvesting other mods and assets to incorporate into it.

The most fun you get out of it is watching them do stupid shit like trying to make testers sign an NDA to access a public github called "totally not hentai" or some shite like that.

Also their Discord server got wiped one time because the admin fell for a steam happy hour type scam.

>>8927995
What's firefight honestly? I never actually joined and I want to know.
I'll join eventually.

>>8931071
Doom PVP game modes, usually FFA deathmatch, but we throw in CTF and TDM every now and then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb7J0dtisd0

>>8931071
Every friday night we all get together on a different mapset to play deathmatch against each other. Sometimes with different rules, sometimes with gameplay mods, depends on the night.
We also do the same thing on sundays except we play co-op instead!

>>8931067
That's one angry deer...

>>8931076
>>8931078
>can choose to play boardgames, wargames, and vidya with my niggas on the weekend
>racing, shooting, areana, skys the limit.
>usually work on the weekends, but I can def get a game in or two with my main mans.
You know what 4chan I love playing shit with you guys. I'm jumping in next friday and hopefully i'll be here on sunday.

Apparently Progs Dump is being updated again. A couple of these items look strangely familiar, but I guess I should integrate the rest into Violent Rumble, barring any objections.
Except line 8, of course.

>>8931093
How the fuck are those names potentially offensive?

>>8931086
Just remember the rules
>Don't be a bitch
>Play vidya
>Have fun

>>8931110
Considering it contains spawn.qc, I'm assuming they're replacing one or more instances of "tarbaby"

>>8931110
The Spawn is referred to in code and the FGD as 'Tarbaby'. The PD2 FGD had changed Tarbaby to Spawn, which I eventually realized and reverted. I guess that's been extended to QC now.
You'd think people this asshurt by that wouldn't be playing a game inspired by H.P. Lovecraft, but I guess selective outrage has its benefits.

>>8931018
retard babby cant reload guns otherwise the game is too hard

reloading makes brutal doom better >:[

I cannot play brutal doom without gun reload enabled

die purist cuckolds. romero said brutal doom is how doom was meant to be

>>8931161
Romero can eat shit

>>8931158
If they can handle the super shotgun they can handle a magazine

>8931161
fuck off Hayden

Reloading in a Doom gameplay mod only works if the rest of the combat is balanced around it. I take offense with weapon reloading when it's just -there-, like the act of reloading is fast and there's no weight behind it. Or if the guns deal vanilla damage or have vanilla fire rates but still require reloading.
Hideous Destructor handles reloading pretty well, but that's because everything else works around it too: The guns hit harder, you move slower, enemies hit like freight trains.

Reloading's gotta be worthwhile. It's also better if you got some good animations to go along with it.

>>8928756
He's back, let's go

https://files.catbox.moe/05x2yq.mp4

my favorite is when doomguy kicks an enemy and subsequently shotguns him

I'm playing through NOVA: The Birth right now, it's a real mixed bag i have to say. I guess i can't blame it too much because it is a community project after all.

>>8931239
in e2 theres a powerup that spawns i think every map that buffs fists and axe

>>8931228
i agree. the Final Doomer+ mod has reloading as an option for pistols and when it's on they do less damage to compensate.

>>8931239
impressive speed, anon

>Sections where you have to swim through flooded tunnels
>With a filter on your field of view making things hard to see
>And items that are at the floor at the very bottom
>With drowning damage mechanics
Why the fuck do they keep doing this shit

>>8931365
Final Doomer+?

>>8931365
>the Final Doomer+ mod has reloading as an option for pistols and when it's on they do less damage to compensate.
So not only is there a reload, they also do less damage? That doesn't sound right, unless you're providing that as an example of a terrible reload idea.

>>8931239
I don't get this zoomie shit anymore

>>8931039
it really doesn't flow in the combat of classic DOOM
>>8931228
hideous instructor is meant to be a mil-sim,so it kinda needs reloads.
>>8931158
???

>>8931386
>it really doesn't flow in the combat of classic DOOM
A very nebulous reason. I think it's more that people just don't want to have to manage anything more than the SSG and that it also threatens the "power fantasy" aspect.

>>8930394
Also using the chain-LG is unironically sexual, real shame how you only get to use it for about half of a single level

give me one reason this command hasn't been implemented yet.

>>8931372
>>8931375
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55061
final doomer+ is a gameplay mod for the gzdoom source port. the central conceit is that you get to choose from a variety of different 'doomguys', each one with a different loadout and gameplay quirks.

the tnt doomguy has a TNT emblem on most of his weapons, and the jpcp guy has a katana.

the pistols can be made to operate like you expect in doom, but they also have a setting to make them have reloads in exchange for more damage. additionally they can be made to not cost pistol ammo and just suck free ammo out the either, but at the cost of damage.

there's also a weirdass way that it calculates bfg ammo and you can flip that back to consuming cells and not think about it. each doomguy's bfg behaves quite differently though, plutonia guts an aoe and the ancient aliens guy's bfg plays the x-files theme and fires a kamehameha.

really fun for replaying good wads with mixed up gameplay.

>>8929838
>I don't get the romero's head, is turned around?
fuck you for reminding me

>>8931386
>hideous instructor is meant to be a mil-sim,so it kinda needs reloads.
I still consider it an immersive sim more than anything else. Or like Space Station 13: Really granular and nuanced gameplay backed by a more ridiculous setting.

I still think it's more than possible to make a more fast paced and actiony gameplay with reloading, it's just a matter of tweaking the weapons to compliment that, and to also make the act of reloading an enjoyable and mechanically sound one.
It's why I got I plans for a set focused around magazine based reloads, so the weapons will hit hard and shoot fast, but reloading is going to be something you need to commit to with the magazine based system.

>>8931396
For some reason I thought you were talking about some kinda addon for Final Doomer, that HUD face in this screenshot here threw me off >>8931365