/vr/ - Retro Games

>>886403
I can name more than a dozen

(in no particular order)
Megaman X
X2
X3
Megaman and Bass
Megaman 7
Super Mario World
Yoshi's Island
Contra 3
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
Super Metroid
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Earthbound
Terranigma
Fire Emblem
Super Castlevania IV
Castlevania Dracula X
Star Fox
DoReMi Fantasy
Metal Warriors
Dragon Quest 5
Dragon Quest 6

And many more.

>>886469
>having to resort to titles not even released in the west

I respect your opinion
However I prefer the SNES to the Saturn.

I agree that the SNES is over rated though.

>>886478
No one said anything about having to be in a specific region. He just said "must play" games. So fuck off.

Also, only 6 of those weren't released in America.

I really agree with the OP. There are some good games on it, but I haven't played many games that I thought these are a "must play", or that there was a Genesis version or iteration of that or franchise which I usually think was the superior game/version.

The SNES easily ranks around third place during that generation for me behind the Genesis and Neo Geo. I have actually been playing games on the Neo Geo that weren't Metal Slug and I am having a lot of fun with Sonic Wings II and Eightman.

Fuck the original NES. You want to talk about overrated? The NES is fucking over rated.

Now I'll b**** that most of the games on the PC Engine for example or just shooters and most of the shooters are mediocre if I could say 90 percent of the shooters in the PC Engine are mediocre. And the shooters comprise about 70 percent of the titles on the system.

However more likely than not if you buy a game on the NES it's going to suck shit out of a bull's ass hole. Between the shitty movie license games that LJN, to the mostly bad games that came out for the system there are seriously maybe I would say 10 percent of the game's release in the system already good and worth owning.

nintendo 64 is one of the worst videogames ever

>>886403
I love looking at my consoles & games just as much as I like playing them.

I like the N64 and the 64 controller

I think the Master System & Saturn are not worth collecting.

I would rate my enjoyment of buying new games, cleaning & showing off my collection at a 9, i would rate my enjoyment of actually playing those games at a 5

i'm a monster aren't I

I hate Secret of Mana.

I think it plays like shit, has no story, and plays like a bad beta.

The N64 was a shit console with a shit controller with mostly shit games that marked the downfall of Nintendo.

>>886829
>Finish Secret of Mana on stream
>Say that it wasn't that good
>Faggots on chat start rebelling
>My Livestream channel is taken down after they all report it for sexual content and the staff obviously didn't bother checking if it's true

>>886769
>b****
>Said fucking earlier in the post

>>886829
>>886837
Was it just the execution of the game itself that you guys didn't like? I completely agree that the game feels like a Beta and Woolsey even admitted that he didn't do a good job translating it. I still find the game fun to try and break.

Edginess: the thread

>>886864
I was forced into it along with hype about the BEST SNES-ERA RPG EVER, it was mostly the disappointment after that and the execution overall. It just didn't feel as special as every idiot made it out to be.

>>886868
Is /v/ down or something?

>>886871
/vr/ has slowly been turning into /v/.

>>886880
This isn't helping.

>>886901
I got what I wanted to off my chest, didn't I?

>Stop fucking praising FFVI. It's a really average jrpg. Go play Phantasy Star 4 instead. INB4 "b-but muh job system.."
>Donkey Kong 64 is an amazing game, shut the fuck up about how much of a collectathon it is. its a 3d platformer, most games in the genre played like that.
>snk fighters>>>>>>>any capcom fighter
>smash bros is not a fighting game. that mere fact that many possess an iota of a doubt as to if it can be classified as one, should be enough proof. Sakurai has even said its a party game, and not a fighter. how much fucking proof do people need?
>the megaman legends series needs to stay dead. it was never any good to begin with.
>doom has aged terribly. stop making threads about it.
>the dreamcast is not retro. but stop flipping the fuck out like a bunch of fatass autists every time its mentioned on here.
>the earthbound/mother series is unbelievably overrated, and your a hipster if you like them. 99% of people wouldn't even know about the series to begin with if it were not for smash bros.

Thanks /vr/ I really needed that.

>>886921
You were a Sega fan as a child, weren't you?

>>886921

>Job system
>FFVI

Post invalidated. You haven't even played the games you're bitching about.

>>886935

yeah, i sure was

>>886937

>Stop fucking praising FFVI It's a really average jrpg. Go play Phantasy Star 4 instead. INB4 "b-but muh no job system.."

fixed

>>886949

It's too late. You haven't even played the game and you're shitting on it. Exposed.

>>886921
>you can't like Earthbound unless you're a hipster

No, I like what I like and that doesn't change my character. End of story

>>886954

naw

I wouldn't say SNES is overrated more so that its just limited in the type of genres you can play. I will always stand by my opinion that PS2 is the best console made.

If the SNES could have hypothetically been backwards compatible and allow NES games I would rank it nearly on par with PS2.

>>886861
sorry anon most 4channers are bitches and I just didn't want to offend

>>886965

i like to make excuses sometimes too.

>>886973
Where did I make an excuse? Liking something does not make you a hipster. Remember when people said liking video games makes you a no life virgin? It's kinda like that, because neither of those two generalizations are true for the most part.

>>886980

i can't stop laughing. im sorry, i didnt know you'd get so mad

>>886983
>implying I was mad
I will admit I was dumb for taking the bait though

Stop recommending the gba port of ffvi.
For that matter stop having meta discussions about how jrpgs have changed, are we not on the retro board for such reasons already?
Stop making recommendation threads for 'must play jrpgs' they always turn into a shit storm.
Stop shitting on ffvii, it's a good game whether you like it or not, I know I don't.

>>886995
>Stop recommending the gba port of ffvi.
No, it's got the better translation, fuck you.

I have a stronger emotional connection to games than I ever will to other types of media

>>886995
>slow clap

Early Megaman and DQ games sucked for me.

>>886995
>Stop recommending the gba port of ffvi.

I'm tired of people saying this. It's the exact same game in every way except for three differences

1. Music - which isn't that bad and I quite like, but if you don't, simply get the music patch

2. Colors - colors are slightly more bright to compensate with the original gba sp's screen, which can also be fixed with a patch

3. The translation - this translation is more accurate to the original script, which makes it better in my opinion. This should be the deal breaker for most people. If they don't like this script that is fine, just get the ps1 or snes versions.

The only that should matter about the gba port is the retranslation, nothing else.

>>887064
>3. The translation - this translation is more accurate to the original script, which makes it better in my opinion. This should be the deal breaker for most people. If they don't like this script that is fine, just get the ps1 or snes versions.
And even then there's a patch to restore the SNES version's script.

>>887068
So a purist could have an almost perfect SNES port of FF6 on their gba if they had an EZ Flash IV?

snes is the edge of golden age console era.
and i never had one

>>887087
Yes, with all the bonus material of the GBA remake.

I've never played a Megaman game before March of this year and it quickly became one of my favorite retro franchises.

>>887160
Mega Man was my hero growing up

>>887168
Mine was Sanic. Luckily I never owned a Saturn, Dreamcast, or Gamecube growing up so I never had to go through the autistic Sanic original character donut steel phase when I was younger.

I never finished Super Mario 64 on my own except for the DS version.

I'm not too big on the Genesis/Mega Drive library. I know it's got some great games, but I've never been that interested in them. Except for Phantasy Star, I'm wanting to try that one.

I've never really sat down to play Planescape Torment despite owning a physical copy of the game.

Kindasortabutnotreally retro: I think Sonic Adventure is terrible. The Sonic Adventure games as a whole were meh at best, but I liked Sonic Adventure 2 much more than the first Adventure.

>>886403

>I don't like the SNES because it is to expensive to collect for.

>>887173
I got a used Genesis and sonic 2 when i had my tonsils removed as a kid and I played it for 2 weeks non stop. I loved the goofy show. I got a dc in 2001 and was only able to buy a couple games before they went under, 1 of them was sonic adventure. I liked it a lot, not as much as i liked mario 64 but the intertwining stories really got me. Even though big was annoying and any was down right retarded
>>887195
Same here for Mario, but I went back and beat it when I got older, still missing a couple stars. I liked adventure 1 more, just cause i was burned out on the franchise by that point. Try out some more Genesis games they have hidden gems. I lost most of my collection in a fire when i was young and i don't remember their titles. Sunset riders is excellent, so is rocket knight.there's also a marvel beat em up i played in an arcade that was ported that i liked a lot

Zelda and metroid are good games, but no god tiers games.

>>886836
This is so true that we still see it's effects today with the Wii U.

>>886403
I never found the third warp whistle as a child in SMB3.

I played the MLP hack of Super Mario Land 2 and enjoyed it.

>>887298
There's a MLP hack of SML2?

I want to play it!

>>887305
I don't wanna stir up shit here. I would ask /mlp/

>>887298
That sounds almost as bad as super kkk bros

I can tell when someone is too young to have experienced the 16 and 32 bit eras because they say things like "Games are shorter these days."

>>887218

That's a somewhat valid reason.

That's like disliking the Saturn because collecting for that is expensive as well, but experiencing games on original hardware (on the Saturn in this example) is still far cheaper than the SNES due to a chip + CDRs being much cheaper than a flash cart.

I can say I love Neo Geo games, but dislike the system because collecting worthwhile games for it would be a financial nightmare. No one can disagree with me there, right? Kind of the same deal with the SNES, only instead of ~$200 per game it can be $30-$60 per "excellent" game, which just isn't worth it IMO for such old stuff and has kind of hindered my enjoyment of the system overall compared to the other 8 and 16 bit consoles.

>>887828
In terms of collecting, you are right, it isn't great, but really any retro system this day sucks collecting for. I don't see how that is relevant though in terms of how good a system is. If that was the case then ps2 and the xbox are the best systems as I can easily buy lots of games for cheap.


Back on topic of the thread:
People who think n64 emulation is good have no taste.

>>887236
If you are talking about the NES incarnations, you're right. If you're talking about the SNES games, you're dead wrong.

>>888414
Eh, for me personally and my childhood Zelda 1 is the best. Just from the sense of exploring from making my own maps and memorizing the location of the secrets.

>>888175
>People who think n64 emulation is good have no taste.

Who the hell thinks that, though?

mario is shit
zelda is shit
metroid is shit
every other over-hyped nintendo game is shit
*-kart games are shit

i can't comprehend why would people like all those nintendo games, apart from not having anything better in their childhood

contra was ok though

>>888447
...But Contra is a Konami game.

Unless you're trying to say that every game that was ever on a Nintendo console is shit, which just isn't true.

>>888457
Don't reply to bait.

>>886403
Please OP. Explain to me how the genesis had a better library than the SNES. By library I mean exclusives. None of that "alladin was bettr" type shit.

Assuming you're not a troll right now.

>>888447
>metroid is shit
The other ones I can get, but why do you hate fun so much?

>>888461
But Aladdin for the Genesis is a significantly different game than the one on SNES, they just happen to share the same name and characters/setting. They were developed by two completely different teams.

That's like saying Metal Gear Solid for PS1 is the same as Metal Gear Solid for GBC, so you can't use them to compare exclusives.

>>888447
And what games do you like for the snes

>>888476
I know that. Genesis fags always say multi-platform games in that generation were better on the genesis. They were usually different from their counterparts.

Learn to read next time.

>>888480
Learn to properly express your thoughts next time.

I made roomate's dog suck my dick once

>>888504
Dogs don't have lips, you fibber.

>>888508
But he did make up for it with some paw-work

>>888514
I just squeezed my dog's paw, it's so... soft, yet firm.

Mite b cool

I watch MLP.

>>886403

-I think final fantasy 7 has the best gameplay of the 3 ps1 games

-Megaman x5 is one of the best in the series

-I think the start of symphony of the night (when you play as richter and defeat dracula) is the best part of the game

-I don't like the original metroid

-Mario kart for snes is only good with friends

-Megaman 7 is great

-I like to play yoshi island with the RGB filter of snes9x

-Castlevania 2 isn't that bad.

-I don't really like the 8-bit sonic games

>>886403
SNES had more of a variety than the Genesis. Genesis was mostly arcade-like games, beat-em-ups, sports etc.

I love both and I had a Genesis growing up, though.

I couldn't beat Castlevania without save states for the final level. I saved at the beginning of each sector.

I also had to use states on Dracula, saving right after beating his first form before he transformed into his second. I haven't tried any other game from the series because I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to beat them without states either.


All the classic Mega Man games are good or great except 7. 7 had redeeming levels, and I can see why some people like it, but some of its stages were just unfair, most notably Turbo Man's. 8 was rather mediocre, but I don't rip on it because I had just finished 7 and it was better by comparison. Really the only thing I took offense to with 8 were the Jump Jump stages, and there were only two of them.
I use ZSNES but only because my laptop can't handle Snes9x.

>>887064
The translation isn't even a problem if you don't have nostalgia for the SNES script.

>>888565
1 is the hardest Castlevania, go ahead and play the others.

>>888457
tried to say it's not a hatred of the whole platform, just the 'flagship' games which i find rubbish

>>888478
never had/played on a snes
pc master race since mid-90's, before that it was toy cars and crayons

>>888552
Honestly, I feel that the SNES was better for beat 'em ups.

Mega Man 7 is one of my fav Mega Man games

Legend of Zelda games are insanely overrated and never interested me much despite playing most of the games and not really seeing what all the fuss is about.

Castlevania needs to get back to the basics and stop with the Metroidvania shit but most people here would probably agree with me.

Secret of Mana is shit in single player.

The original versions of retro Dragon Quest games are completely shit compared to their recent remakes and are not worth playing at this point.

Tomba! sucks. It's pretty much a generic platformer with tons and tons of artificial length.

Despite owning an N64 as a kid, I can say the N64's library was lacking by a longshot compared to PS1 but people seem to think N64 is the best system ever because most people in my age range had an N64 as their first system so it's pretty much all nostalgia instead of looking at it from an objective standpoint.

Also 3D N64 games aged better than 3D PS1 games but 32 bit era 3D games look like shit anyway so it doesn't matter that much.

>>888587
I just assumed that you were heading in that direction since you brought up Contra, which isn't a flagship title.

I think the PC "master race" is slightly obnoxious.

>>888574
Oh, really? Then I'll give II a try.

I also had to use the Select glitch to beat Yellow Devil in MM1, but I've been told I'm not alone in that.

>>888603
>The original versions of retro Dragon Quest games are completely shit compared to their recent remakes and are not worth playing at this point.

This is not a bad opinion. Every remake straight up improves everything minus the awful translations on some.

>>888605
MM1 is also the hardest Mega Man.

>>888608

lol no it's not. The only hard part about MM1 is Yellow Devil if you don't know the pattern.

>>888587
>pc master race since mid-90's, before that it was toy cars and crayons
>>>/v/

>>888615
Eh, just let the guy have his opinion. He could have worded it better but this is that kind of thread.

I owned both a Playstation and a Nintendo 64 as a child. Despite the fact that the PS1 had a lot more games, I find myself more inclined to replay games on my N64 a lot more.

>>888609
Compared to the rest of the NES games and 7, yes it is.

>>888617

It's because most of the good games on N64 were god tier since they were first and second party Nintendo games which have a more lasting effect than a good game on PS1. Same can be said about Gamecube in comparison with PS2.

>>886403
In what fucked up alternate reality does the Genesis have more must-play games than the SNES?

>>888489
Not my fault your reading comprehension is that of a 2 year old, faggot.

>>888587
>never had/played on a snes

You're a faggot OP. And apparently had a terrible childhood. Now everybody know.

>>888645
Come on /v/, calm down.

>>888646
>didn't deny being a faggot

>>888637
I replay games on my PS2 a lot more than on my Gamecube.

Although, to be fair, that may be because my Gamecube's laser is completely fucked.

>>888437
Just look around emulation forums on the wider internet. People will defend Project64, or even 1964, with rabid ferocity, saying stuff along the lines of "but all the best games work" or "what's the point in fixing errors with crap games?".

It's part of the reason the PJ64 team got so complacent - their forums eventually devolved into an echo chamber of that.

>>888658
Paper Mario 64 is still fucked so not all the best games work.

>>888642

Shinobi trilogy, Strider, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage series, Sanic, Contra: HC, Shadowrun, Toejam & Earl series, Beyond Oasis, Landstalker, Phantasy Star II and IV, Thunderforce II-IV, Earthworm Jim, Road Rash II, Mega Turrican, Herzog Zwei, Bio Hazard Battle, Rocket Knight Adventures, Vectorman, Comix Zone.

I guess I just like action games. It's like the SNES has "the big three" and some JRPGs.

>>888437
>uneducated fuck

Hardly any of the good games work correctly through emulation. Nintendo still holds patents for N64 hardware that don't run out until 2015 and later. All of the other patents NES SNES etc have expired that's why emulation on retro-based consoles and computer is so good.

n64 was a bitch to program for and it's still a bitch. You won't see any GOOD 64 emulation until 2016ish.

Also why would you emulate it anyways? Consoles are dirt cheap the only problem you'll have is if you want to play conkers bad fur day and can't afford a $70 cart. 64 games are a dime a dozen and , in my opinion, not that fun anyways.

>>888658
That IS absolutely infuriating. We should be encouraging them to release a BETTER product, not a worse one.

And "all the best games work" my ass. I can't even get Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon to work without it freezing.

Ocarina of Time is a giant piece of shit

>>888667
>must-play games
>vector man

>>888676
Are you some kind of idiot? I was questioning people who think N64 emulation is ANYWHERE near adequate enough.

Jesus fucking christ.

>>888684

I love that game.

If you don't, that's fine.

>>888665
>>888679
My point exactly, man. Paper Mario, Pokémon Snap, Blast Corps and both Goemon games; amongst others I'm too lazy to list, have issues ranging from "none of the graphics display" to "slowing down to unplayable speeds" to "won't even fucking launch".

A lot of these bugs are SUPPOSEDLY fixed by oddly specific plugin sets, but the mere notion that I need to hunt down not only plugins, but configuration files for said plugins, that only work for like one or two games... yeah, that's bullshit.

>>888690
Yeah, I had to get one of said plugins to play Mystical Ninja so it wouldn't suffer from so much slowdow...only for the the game to pretty much crash during the first Impact battle. Fuck emulators.

>>888693
Well that just means you're a faggot and you have shit taste in video games

>>888712
Metroid and Super metroid were the ONLY good metroid games.

The original LoZ and original Metroid are just kinda meh. I respect that they're the games that launched series full of amazing 10/10 games but as individual games themselves I don't see anything in them that makes them worth replaying. Everything they did good was done better by at least one of their sequels.

>>888710

>>888447
You're just trying to piss people off

>>888712
Isn't that how it should be though? It makes sense for every successive game to build on the original to make a better experience.

In the context of the 1986, they were revolutionary games because they had features that were not commonplace in every title.

>>888732
People do laud them as the best games in their respective series, though, mainly because of the complete lack of handholding.

>>888609
Being said confessionist, I've played all of the classic Mega Man games except MMNB and MM10, and 1 gave me a harder time than all the others except 9 (which may have been because I played 1-8 for the first time in a single run but I waited a few months before playing 9 because my computer is 2shitty4Wiiemu and I had to purchase that one). Whether it's hardest or not I don't know, but it's up there as one of the harder ones.


Another confession to stay on-topic, I've never played a JRPG that wasn't either a Pokémon game or something from the /vr/ Gauntlet.

>>888737

People have opinions and preferences.

>>888740
I should make another gauntlet thread. My last one died so fast.

>>888718
I said. You have shit taste in games

>>886469
Hardmode: Without relying on sequels.

>>888743
I'm sorry; I was participating in the Gauntlet but I got sidetracked before I started GBA by trying and falling in love with DOOM.

>>888737
If that's your preference in games, then I guess they are.

Though, I have always felt that some of them were absolute hypocrites.

RPGs killed gaming.

>>888773
Gaming isn't dead, your opinion is retarded.

>>888775
Well I'll put it in a more fancy way for you:
RPGs almost killed gaming.

>>888780
Just because you don't like a genre doesn't mean it is inherently harmful.

I think Alex Kidd and Wonder Boy were both superior to Sonic the Hedgehog.

However, Alex Kidd only ever looked good on the Master System. (Enchanted Castle looked like shit and I blame that game for killing the Kidd).

And the first Wonder Boy is the best one.

>>888780
Nah, it saved it. People love gaining stats, collecting monies/treasure and getting stronger.

>>888667
That's like half as many must plays as the SNES

>>887226
Sunset Riders for Genesis is good, Sunset Riders for SNES is fucking awesome. They are two different games, SNES is mostly more faithful to the arcade version and is longer than the Genesis one.

>>888667
>Sh-Shinobi...Trilogy?

3 Shinobi games came out for Genesis? I know there's Revenge and the oddly titled 3, did they port the arcade version or something?

I beat Donkey Kong Country 2 yet have not touched the original.

>>889035

I'm not sure if you're joking, but it's a pretty fun game.

>>889067
>Official Sega Genesis Seal of Quality
Oh Sega, trying so hard to be like Nintendo

I don't like the original Legend of Zelda. I love 2, but I find 1 to be bland.

N64 is the best console ever made. Dat 4-controllers multiplayer.

>>888732

It is how it should be. But around here it seems rare to come across a person who doesn't think they're GOAT candidates, even when stacked up against their successors.

I'm just saying they ain't worthy of the praise. Even when someone brings up a supposed "advantage" over their successors it's always a *LACK* of a feature. For instance preferring Metroid over Super because no map. Whoopee, so I just draw my own instead. It's always fun when you have to interrupt your gameplay to do cartography.

>>888950
I really like playing some RPGs, but I believe it's what started the trend of "More cutscenes, dialogue, story. Less gameplay" Because it was easy to make money from RPGs, they started feeling like an excuse to sell a book/movie for good money. And with the SNES/Playstation this became the rule, name the best games of both platforms, half of them are RPGs for sure.
So in the end, companies are full of artists, story teller guys, and less game designers/programmers. What we get is games that would be as good if they were books or movies.
I'm not saying they shouldn't exist, but I blame them for the fall of good gameplay opportunities.

>>889125

Fair enough, but keep in mind it was made in 1986.

>>889648
>"More cutscenes, dialogue, story. Less gameplay"
Then stop playing JRPGs.

I am rather young, and because of my childhood with the N64 and the Xbox, I've grown to think they are la crème de la crème of vidya. Especially the N64.

Even though I was shown proof here and in other places that it was a mess of a console and was saved by some great devs that could work their way around it (and holy fuck, there was a lot of working around it).

I'll still love it to death and continue to spread "N64 masterrace" to my buds who had a PS1.

And I don't give a fuck because all of them used bad quality backups and fucked up their consoles, as my N64 still works, lel

>>889707
I'm 30 and after some initial excitement about N64 I quickly saw it in pretty much exactly the same terms that /v/ tends to speak of the Wii in, apart from motion control related complaints obviously.

Shining Force 1 & 2 are the best SRPG's I've ever played and have managed to convince me they are the best in the genre. If anyone has any recommendations that are better than these I'd be happy to hear them.

>>889792
shining force 3, shining the holy arc

I play dungeon crawlers without mapping the areas out on paper.

>>886807
youre fuckin weird
but i guess thats everybody here

>>886836
totally agree. i got a N64 when i was in 10th grade. opening the box and hooking it up was the moment for me that nintendo jumped the shark

>>889804
So basically a lot of Saturn SRPG's?

>>888753
>hardmode: exclude great games that happen to be sequels of other great games
why do people make up these stupid rules?

I just cannot find any joy in the Zelda games whatsoever. I love exploring and puzzles in video games, but for some reason, the Zelda series just never appealed to me at all.

I am destined to forever suck at Final Fantasy Tactics, no matter how much I wish I could change this fact. I get to about the 4th battle and just hit a brick wall. God dammit....

Out of 1060 SNES games, only 158 are RPGs.
607 are supposed to be 'action' games.

There are a lot of generic platforming games.
The genesis on first appearances does seem to definitely branch out a lot more and try new things.

Both systems do have a significant pile of crap. The 90% is shit rule does seem to apply fairly well for both libraries. I'd have to really have to get a more thorough but it appears roughly correct.

Yoshi's Island sucks.

I don't really care for Ocarina of Time and I hate Majora's Mask.

>>890073
>I don't really care for Ocarina of Time and I hate Majora's Mask.

Having recently replayed Ocarina for the first time in 14 years, I agree. Obviously a lot of effort went into the design of these games, and the graphics hold up well, but the puzzles, exploration, side quests, etc., seem to me much more tedious than challenging. I've played a few games lately, but Ocarina most of all reminded me that I was wasting my time, accomplishing nothing.

It's possible I no longer care for video games at all and just haven't let it sunk in, but I'm having fun playing through a Chinese translation of Live-a-Live at the moment.

I think that considering yourself a 'collector' and overpaying for pristine games is really lame.
I own a lot of sega stuff, but I think as soon as you declare it a 'collection' it kind of stops being about the actual content of the damn games

I will never understand the appeal of the Amiga or C64. So little of the games have aged very well.

I don't care about anything pre snes and I only like to play jrpgs.

>>886403
=sigh- ...Final Fantasy is shit compared to Legend of Legaia.

I have no love for RPGs and pokemon.

Megaman X1 is the only one worth owning.

I keep my Super Nintendo around only for the Super Gameboy and because it's not yellowed at all.

I kept my N64 just so I can replay OoT, after that it's gone.

Zelda on NES is great, but I'm having a difficult time getting into the other 2d ones even though I own most of them.

NES, SNES and Genesis especially aren't worth collecting for in my opinion. My love and money goes towards original Game Boy games instead.

The only SNES games I really give a shit about nowadays is Super Metroid and Megaman X1-X2. Genesis selection is alot more interesting and varied for me.

I can't really find much interest in many SNES games really.

>>890554

The problem with that is that it being a "collection" of games has nothing to do with the person declaring it one or not. If somebody has a bunch of games, it's a collection of games whether anybody calls it one or not.

I think the distinction you want to make it between casual collectors who do it because they want to play and enjoy the games, and hardcore collectors who do it because they want to have a pile of rare pieces of plastic that they can show off.

I fucking hate Half-Life 1 and 2. The only appeal I see in them is that HL1 kind of plays like Quake, plus Natural Selection is awesome. The actual level design, weapons, 'real-time cutscenes' or whatever you want to call the storytelling innovation, they all sucked. The only thing they accomplished is inspiring FPS designers industry-wide to copy their boring-ass linear maps and shit guns, and to hide it under that horrid storytelling BS. I'm not against a story in games, but holy shit, Half-Life is like the shitty JRPG of the FPS genre.

>>888726
no
sorry that someone's differing opinions make you mad though
>>888647
>calls op a faggot
>quotes not op
i am okay with this

>>886469
Half the titles you listed are RPGS, a genre the SNES was swamped with because of it's shit tier CPU and equally retarded VRAM. It really says a lot when a lot of traditional games start to slow down with the slightest hint of too many enemies.

The PC engine is better than the SNES and Genesis.

>>891291

Surely better than the Genesis,but not the SNES.

Super Mario World, while fun is nowhere as good as people make it out to be. It's definitely one of the weaker mainline Mario games.

Game Boy Color is the worst Nintendo handheld.

Lester the Unlikely for SNES is actually pretty good at what it's trying to be.

Mega Drive's 1989-1990 library was, outside of few titles, pretty shitty.

That feels good.

I think SaGa is much better than the main line Final Fantasy games

Final Fantasy 3 is the best in the series

Zelda 2 is nowhere near as good as the first one and there are a ton of action rpgs on the snes are way better than zelda 2

I hate:
metroid
zelda
donkey kong
castlevania
mega man
yoshis island

Those games are overrated as hell and boring to play

Mario cannot into RPGs, only classic Square did it good.

The N64 was shit and even if some gems made it a bit better, it's a shit console.

I think Super Metroid is not the holy grail and that is pretty mediocre after playing Zero Mission and Fusion. A remake using ZM's gameplay would make it ten times better.

>>891463

I would be interested to hear what series/games you actually like.

>>891504
>Mario cannot into RPGs, only classic Square did it good.
Funny you say this since a lot of the people on the team that made SaGa 3, Final Fantasy USA/Mystic Quest and Mario RPG left square to form AlphaDream, the company that makes the Mario and Luigi RPG series.

>>886403
The Sega Genesis was an awful console. Absolutely terrible. I owned one as a kid, so I'm not biased.

Here are ALL of the good Sega Genesis games:
Sonic
Gunstar Heroes
Castlevania Bloodlines

I have TRIED other games, believe me. As a kid, and as an adult. None of them have held my interest for any significant length of time. It doesn't help that the Sega had absolutely awful sound and graphics. The NES managed to do more with less, and the SNES simply curbstomped the Genesis in every department.

I hate:
You're favorite video game series
You're second favorite video game series
You're third favorite video game series
You're fourth favorite video game series
You're fifth favorite video game series
You're sixth favorite video game series

They're all overrated and shit and boring. Basically fuck you.

>>886829
Agreed. I played and loved Final Fantasy Adventure, Seiken Densetsu 3, Legend of Mana, and even Sword of Mana. I couldn't make myself finish Secret of Mana. I just wasn't having any fun at all.

>>891528
Contra Hard Corps was better than III and the Streets of Rage trilogy shits over any SNES beat-'em-up.

>>887064
>1. Music - which isn't that bad and I quite like, but if you don't, simply get the music patch
The patch does not restore it to SNES quality. I'm fucking tired of people saying this. It makes it sound better, but even on an emulator, the sound is still going through the GBA's tinny, shitty sound chip.

Also, you missed

>4. Resolution

You can see less area around you, and the font is fucking ugly because it's a 3x5 pixel shitty mess.

>>891538
Did you like Seiken Densetsu 4?

>>891534

Apparently you also hate using the correct form of "your" :D

Anyway, I hate all of the criticism that the Sega Saturn gets. It is my all-time favorite console and it gets more play than my brand new Wii U. I would take a Saturn any day over an Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3 because the games actually have substance and replay value. They're not just some hi-def shitfest that costs $60 bucks to buy and 3 hours to beat and never play again. I hate what video games have become. That's why I have my Saturn with every accessory and a great collection of games.

>>891548
Beat-'em-up is an absolutely horseshit genre. There are no good ones.

>>891556
Was that Dawn of Mana? Or Children of Mana? Or Heroes of Mana?

I tried playing one of them (on the DS, with randomly-generated dungeons) and gave up on it really fast. Haven't even tried the others.

>>891584

>>891586
Dawn of Mana in Japan was just titled Seiken Densetsu 4 though like BoF5, it has very little in common with the first 3. Most people don't like it which is why I asked.

>>888753

>Relying on sequels

what, are you trying to be stupid?

>>891548
>B-b-buh-but Game X on the Genesis is better than Game Y on the SNES!!!!

That's cool. It's also irrelevant. What matters is whether or not Game X is a good game.

If you ask a SNES fan what's great about their console, they'll list a bunch of great games. If you ask a Genesis fan what's great about their console, they'll compare their games to the SNES's games.

Sega was a complete "me too!" company. Nintendo had Tetris, so Sega made Columns. Nintendo had Mario, so Sega made Sonic. Nintendo had Final Fantasy, so Sega made Phantasy Star. Nintendo had Fire Emblem, so Sega made Shining Force. And so on, and so on, and so on.

Nintendo made—or secured the talent that made—everything worthwhile. Nintendo lead, and Sega followed. Sega did nothing else the entire time it was in the console race. Capcom and Konami and other third parties took pity and ported a few table scraps to the Genesis.

And there are still manchildren clutching their Genesises, weeping at night, whispering to themselves that their console was "just as good" over and over again.

But... I guess it was the console of choice if you wanted to play Madden '94.

>>891616
>Nintendo had Final Fantasy, so Sega made Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star wasn't so much a me too of Final Fantasy as it was rpgs exploded in popularity in Japan with Dragon Quest. Even at that, Final Fantast and Dragon Quest were just ripping off Ultima and Wizardry.
>Nintendo had Fire Emblem, so Sega made Shining Force
The creator of Shining Force doesn't even like Fire Emblem and neither him nor Matsuno cite Fire Emblem as a reference for their creations.

A lot of these complaints are superficial, Beyond Oasis isn't anymore of a Zelda ripoff than Secret of Mana is.Then of course there are Sega's other games like Space Harrier and Shinobi, how were those copying nintendo?

>>891529
Funny how Nintendo made it shit then. Paper Mario and Mario&Luigi are shit, at least for me.

Final Fantasy 7 is overrated and killed the series for me, all games before seven were awesome.

>>891664
I don't think Nintendo even owns AlphaDream and its not like they were turning out masterpieces at square, Mystic Quest is considered one of their lesser snes titles and SaGa 3 was considered the worst in the series up until unlimited saga.

Also, Paper Mario is made by Intelligent Systems the Fire Emblem developer.

>>890037

Keep trying man thats like the beginner's trap, shit gets a bit more manageable after that (there is more brick walls though)

I miss the days when Castlevania was good. :(

I don't get why people think the SNES had better sound than the Genesis, at the time or even now.

the SNES sounded like they tried to sound like some crappy vinyl turntable, and fucked up.
Genesis had actually present sound, and it had existing treble, mids, and bass. Sure you'd have fuck ups like the NA Marble Madness port, but that's fucking EA being EA.

The only instance I can think where SNES beats Sega soundwise was Doom, and let's face it people developing on the 32X did not give any fucks about how they did.

>>886403
Finally, I thought I was taking crazy pills, what with how many people act like the SNES was the gold standard of gaming.

I find that I like collecting nes, sms and genesis games more than snes. But then, I collect games to play them rather than for their value, so that might have something to do with it.

99% of /vr/ are no-nothing idiots and for some self abusing reason I come here because I enjoy raging out to your stupidity.

>>891807
Frequency modulation synthesis has its uses, but sample based systems can produce far more diverse tracks, not to mention the superiority of sound effects themselves (ie. samples). AVGN did actually a pretty good comparison of their strong and weak points in his Genesis vs SNES video (part 2).

Neo Geo's sound chip basically combined both so it sounds the awesomest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYyiL9cr3sg&t=24m17s

FPS / butch space marine games are shit and have helped to create the majority of the "hand-holding" you see in modern consoles. Fuck that smirky, cru-cut, obviously anglo protagonist who's been created to tailor to an audience that thrives in psuedo masculinity at the expense of actual gameplay and mastery through EFFORT.

Fuck these 90s kids that continue to collect and collect without actually sitting down and playing the games as a hobby and placing said hobby as a side note to your existence. You do work for living don't you? You do have friends, don't you? Are you just collecting to put your shit on a shelf to take pictures for us losers here or are you actually playing your fucking games? Look at the Happy Console Gamer. That man loves games, but he's got a fucking life too.

Screw you Xbox fanboys who flip flopped about Xbox One and conveniently went the other way when your console's policies did the complete opposite of what a gaming console is SUPPOSED to do. FUCK YOU!!!

PC Engine and NEO GEO RULE!!!

That is all.

I LIKE CASTLEVANIA 64!

>>886807
>Saturn
>not worth collecting
MORE FOR ME

>>889815
It was the moment you grew up, asshole.
(mad respect for using "jump the shark", though)

>>890821
Not him.
Could give a shit.
The vast majority of platforming/shooting games that game out for the Genesis were shit, and nothing else at the time really competed with SNES.

>>892478
It's been over twenty years and we're still having the SNES vs. Genesis debate.

The Sega CD has great games, and awesome hardware.

>>892508
Please list good Non FMV games. I really want to play some.

lets just turn this into a sega thread.

>>892423
>fuck that smirky, cru-cut(sic), obviously anglo protagonist

Mestizo, Negro, Frenchman, or other untermensch detected.

>>892527
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue
Dark Wizard
Batman Returns
Batman and Robin
Robo Aleste
Soul Star
Snatcher
The Terminator

There's a few I like for starters. All exclusives except for Snatcher, which is exclusive in that its the only English language version.

I think the SNES was the superior console, and "mature" and sports games craze began on the Genesis, and I question how it was capable of competing with Nintendo...

That being said, because of less nostalgia-sickness, the gems haven't been debated to death and you can actually find awesome games at reasonable prices.

Zelda was originally a game for girls.

Street Fighter II and fighting games were considered the equivalent of Call of Duty/FPS in their day.

>>889707
Consoles with moving parts, motors, lasers, hard drives, etc., will inevitably fail before catridge-based consoles.

On-topic: I play more games on my tablet now than my PC or my console. And I like it.

>>889079
Everything from snack cakes to toothpaste has an "Official Seal of Qualitty".

>>892659
>Zelda was originally a game for girls
It gradually turned into one you mean.

final fantasy I-VI is basically the same shit over and over

I think a lot of old Commodore 64 & Amiga games are overrated, god awful and inferior to Japan's efforts on the MSX and X68000 machines. SID can also suck my nuts. AY-3-8910 sounds better.

Working Designs localizations are horrifically bad, unfunny, and just don't deserve the near endless fellating they receive. I personally wish those games were retranslated from the ground up.

Virgin's Aladdin is a highly overrated mediocre platformer. The only thing it has going for it are the graphics and presentation. Snes version plays better.

Westerners can't make Shmups to save their lives. Euroshmups just fucking suck.

CGR is insanely overrated. Game Sack is far superior.

I enjoyed Sonic R on the PC.

One of the main reason why the dreamcast would never succeed against the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube is the controller itself. the lack for extra buttons or an analog stick for the camera would have made a bitch to port games too. And FPS for that generation would have have awful control schemes.

>>886869

SD3 is VASTLY superior to our Secret of mana.

Also, give "Live a Live" a go if you're wanting something out of the ordinary.

>>894772

>Virgin's Aladdin is a highly overrated mediocre platformer. The only thing it has going for it are the graphics and presentation. Snes version plays better.

>CGR is insanely overrated. Game Sack is far superior.

You sir are my nigga

>>896151
Just discovered GameSack, I've gotta say I'm more impressed with their quality, some jokes run a little too deep and too far. A bit try-hard, some times cringey, but overall I'll give em a shot. Props for them for being US guys and running Scart for retro games and actually talking about it in a Youtube video.

CGR seems like a cool bro, what the shit is CGR Undertow though? Is it like his kids? They are terrible.

As video game theory as this sounds, between Sega and SNES, Sega seemed more "Aladdin"-ish it was the street rat, a bit slicker, almost always under powered in comparison to the SNES, but cagey. Sega Aladdin sleemed smoother and slicker than SNES, which is the feel Aladdin needed. It just fit better.

In my opinion the N64's controller only had two things wrong with it:
That clunky-ass stick (I'm fine with an octagon, but the Game Cube clearly had the better iteration between the two).
The three handles. Nothing to say that hasn't ever been said.