/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8908538
It's not that it's a bad game. It has its own charm and can even be pretty fun!

But the truth regardless is that it's an incredibly glitchy experience that has not aged well with the passage of time. It's the first clear indication Mario had one over Sonic via the jump to 3D, and was ultimately the sign of things to come for Sonic; the series downfall via game after game of underdeveloped 3D experiences, never bothering to truly capture the essence of the old games into the new.

>>8908538
>this game is pretty fun
no it isn't.

The lack of Chao Gardens was the death knell for 3D Sonic. I never bought another when I'd heard the new games didn't have that. Seeing Chao Gardens was the reason I got a dreamcast in the first place.

Sure, same way any other 6th gen 3D platformer selling by mascot instead of quality can actually be fun. Spongebob Battle for Bikini Bottom and the Scooby Doo games come to mind. They're not literally the worst things ever and there's fun to be had in them if you let yourself just enjoy some fun jank, but that doesn't really mean they're up to par in the genre either.

>>8909343
Can't you just get a tamagotchi and pretend it's a chao garden while playing whatever other 3D Sonic games you'd otherwise like except for their lack of digimon / pokemon shit?

>>8909361
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1652587045916.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1652587170251.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1652587107890.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1652587235368.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1652587360141.webm

>>8909146
a 1/3 of mario 64 can be skipped via bugs. its graphics have aged horribly. a lot of the stars in the game are just lying around which seems underdeveloped to me, not to mention its lack of levels. it's a completely different experience from the old games.

>>8909397
What's the third movie there? I know the others. Also, kind of cock block to end the last one before he says "Jesus Wept"

>>8909458
Misery

>>8909346
yep. sure is a mascot used to sell games of arguable quality. how could sega do such a thing

>>8909450
>a 1/3 of mario 64 can be skipped via bugs.
That's not a real complaint. Nobody skips 1/3 of Mario 64 accidentally. To the extent that's a thing it's just speedrunner shit found after years of intentionally trying to find working tricks.
The main reason Mario 64 worked so well in contrast with Sonic Adventure is that it maintained the same tone of a Mario game and the new features were eased in instead of forced up your ass with weird alt rock music and excessive awkward dialogue.
Sonic could have been OK as a 3D game too if it would shut up and stick to some basic solid gameplay. The level of vocalized lines in Sonic CD would have been similar to Mario 64 and a better amount to aim for with Sonic Adventure. A few "yeah!" effects from Sonic and some laughter effects from Robotnik are really all you need.
Also make the levels less like an interconnected RPG story and keep them more like the casual buffet of random self-contained locations that Mario 64 rolls with.
Most of the problems with 3D Sonic is doing too much with unnecessary and embarrassing lore shit and not enough with providing the basics of a likable platformer.

>>8909539
>just speedrunner shit found after years of intentionally trying to find working tricks.
nope. picrel is from 2000
i think i generally agree with your issues with adventure itself besides muh tone or crying about voices (i love ryan's and gene's sonic and robotnik voices respectively). its just this forced kotaku hack correlation everyone always tries to make between it and muh perfect golden calf mario 64 when mario 64 changed just as many precedents if not more than sonic adventure did. it was revered in its time for being a revolutionary 3d title, not a perfect carryover of mario's gameplay from 2d to 3d. it's in an entirely different subgenre of platformer.

>>8909548
2000 was 4 years after Mario 64 was released.

>>8909559
you think every bug in sonic adventure was found the day of release? what's your point? had nothing to do with speedrunners either

Once you realize that the real goal of sonic adventure is actually to fling sonic into space with the spin dash it becomes incredible kino.

>>8909343
Based
When I was a kid I got a Dreamcast as my next console after my SNES. I fucking loved the chao garden so much. I would spend my entire summer in chao garden or shenmue. those are the best gaming experiences ever made

>>8909587
that is also the goal of the genesis games. more specifically the spin dash jump. people who try to play classic sonic like mario are in for an even worse time trying to do the same in adventure which could explain a big part of why its so contentious

>bad controls
>shit camera
>horrible gameplay
>fun
Why do nugamers lie to themselves?

>>8909598
Sonic levels are good when they either are physics playgrounds or time trial obstacle courses. Sonic adventure lends itself more to physics shenanigans (I bet I can use this ramp to skip this section...) and SA2 is best enjoyed as a time trial (if I chain this jump into that homing attack string then follow that line I should be able to lower my record by half a second!).

Mario 64 ironically can be enjoyed best when played with the same philosophy as SA1 (if I triple jump into a wall jump here I can skip those enemies, then...)

>>8909634
Filtered, filtered, and filtered. Love to see it.

I just want Sonic levels
I like how in Genesis Sonic games they all play the same, very refined

>>8911202
>muh playing the same
what's the point of having different characters at all then? tails and knuckles being able to roll was always stupid. they don't have the spikey quills that are supposed to be why sonic can kill enemies doing it. they should have always had entirely unique movesets that are still capable of clearing the same levels. the series for the past fifteen years has been all about making everything entirely about sonic and the games have becoming incredibly mediocre and blase because of it.

>>8909634
gamers at the time liked sonic adventure. it's e-celeb influenced nugamers who run around bloviating about how badly designed and aged it is. i'm not sure what people who dismiss it entirely even like about sonic

>>8909146
Jesus Christ. Anyone who bitches about the glitchiness is outing themselves as someone who only played the DX version. Get the fuck out of /vr/.

The Dreamcast version works perfectly and is fun as fuck.

>>8909502
Yes, no one is immune to having a low quality game made of them.

>>8911263
It isn't so much as "glitchy", rather it's finickly ambitious. The only thing that's truly broken are loop-de-loops when letting go for the joystick and the collision detection is wonky.

Have you ever seen the critics of this game actually play it? So many of them fucking suck at it, they fail at the most basic shit and blame the game for it
>"Hurr Durr I'm gonna stop moving forward on this loop de loop... WTF WHY DID I FALL OFF?!?" (try doing that in real life to see what happens)

>>8911340
This makes me want to smoke...

>>8911342
why do you think boost gameplay is the way it is? they made the gameplay as stilted as possible so mario 64 cultists playing it in bad faith can't possibly mess up no matter how hard they go out of their way to try so they can ~prove~ sonic was always bad and how correct they are for wearing nintendo-brand diapers their whole life

>>8911351
>mario 64 cultists
sonic adventure is shit. it plays like shit, it's not canon, it should never even be mentioned in the same sentence as mario 64
boost games are infinitely better too.

>>8911251
>i'm not sure what people who dismiss it entirely even like about sonic
Yeah bro, how could you possibly like Sonic and not be into the fundamentals that made the Genesis games great, like Big the Cat fishing quests, automated running and attack homing, dialogue heavy echinda lore cutscenes, and smooth autobiographical character hip hop jams such as Unknown for M.E.?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhiAEa3ijgw

>>8912107
>character that makes up 3% of the game
>occassional spectacle moment, of which there were many in the genesis games
>optional jump attack
>expanding the lore 3&k introduced
>a rap song, which has been a part of sonic since the jap cd soundtrack
try harder and maybe you'll finally get on game grumps

>>8911884
nice opinion cultist
>it's not canon
how is it not? chaos appears in forces and everyone recognizes him. if anything its the boost games that generally aren't canon (secret rings, unleashed, black knight). we sure haven't seen chip in a while huh

>>8912162
You can't possibly be comparing Metallic Madness to that Sonic Adventure abortion of a sound track. Sober up before posting next time.

>>8912204
you don't have to like it. point is rap was already a precedent in sonic.

>>8912204
>Sonic Adventure abortion of a sound track
wait. if you're trying to imply the whole soundtrack is bad then kys. too contrarian to live.

>>8912213
>you don't have to like it
Yeah, Sonic Adventure is perfectly fine as long as you set aside details like quality or enjoyment. And also ignore all the Big the Cat, Amy, Knuckles, and Tails parts. Basically just keep the game on mute and skip 60% of it and it's a solid D+.

>>8912234
wow you named the characters and said adjectives. egoraptor will be sending you an email any second now

>>8912226
CAN'T HOLD ON MUCH LONGER
>Contrarian
lol

>>8912239
open your heart rules. you are a faggot.

>>8912236
Anon, I don't think you understand what adjectives are.

>>8912250
>quality
>enjoy
>solid
well you certainly don't

>>8912258
i read it as enjoyable oops. still an entirely unconvincing opinion

>>8912239
I WILL NEVER LET GO
OPEN YOUR HEART
ITS GONNA BE ALLLRIGHT

>>8912241
>open your heart rules

>>8912258
>>8912304
>Listing words to prove you know what an adjective is
>Two out of three aren't adjectives
Sasuga Sonic Adventure apologists

>>8912505
quality and solid are definitely adjectives. adjectives can also be nouns dipshit. you know your argument is pathetic so now you're doing the equivalent of hyperfocusing on a typo

>>8912487
asian boy lover thinks his take matters

>>8912574
open your shart lover thinks he's in the majority

Blaze the Cat fans, it's time to vote for whether or not you want Blaze the Cat to be independent from Sonic the Hedgehog and his friends. The poll is in the link below.
https://take.quiz-maker.com/poll4341389x8eCA461F-136

>>8912723
>In Summer 2016 AD, Blaze the Cat from the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise had officially decided that she would leave the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise after the Rio De Janeiro 2016 Olympic Games
>Blaze the Cat
>decided
She can't decide anything, she's not real

>>8912668
guy with anime reaction gifs on his computer speaks for the majority -onion article

>>8912569
>adjectives can also be nouns
It was a noun in the post you retard. You picked out three words to prove you knew what an adjective was and one was a noun, the other was a noun, and the third was an actual adjective. Which makes sense since the reason anyone pointed out you don't understand what an adjective is in the first place is because you replied to a post with almost no adjectives saying it was just a bunch of adjectives.

>>8908538
True. It's aged terribly but it's still fun and the bugs make it funner. It has accidental immersive sim level skips

>>8909634
filtered

>>8912239
>OPEN YOU HEART
>ITS GONNA BE ALRIGHT

>>8909661
I never liked SA2's more rigid physics and level design

>>8913095
this somehow changes the context of his shitty argument. fine though, i'll do this just for you autismo.
>wow you named the characters and said nouns.
well would you look at that, still a thoroughly shit argument whether it be nouns OR adjectives! as if he wouldn't use the same words as adjectives to refer to the game anyway. makes no difference.

>>8909539
>interconnected RPG story and keep them more like the casual buffet of random self-contained locations that Mario 64 rolls with.
3&k was interconnected and is all the better for it. all the supposed positives you've mentioned about the series are all literally just shit from mario. you could just play mario instead of demanding sonic also be him. the fact that you guys got lost world and yet still cry about muh perfect ideal sonic game where it's mario but with sonic in it speaks to how you really just don't want what you say you want anyway

>>8914718
You're the one who brought up adjectives out of nowhere in the first place you mongoloid. That comic is about you, except you're even dumber and somehow managed to both nitpick wording and fail at it two out of the three times you tried.

>>8914837
the point was there was no meat to his argument. it's a pure anecdote you can't go anywhere with. that's not a comic by the way you mongoloid and it is absolutely about you with how you still can't let it go

>>8908538
Whenever i see this image, i think to myself:
>wow, hitler is still alive.

It’s the first game I think of when the topic of “soul” comes up, and one of the very few games I feel a false sense of nostalgia towards despite the fact that I only played it for the first time roughly two years ago. The music is amazing, the multiple characters is interesting keeps it fresh feeling with the few bad characters being very short sections of the game, and the entire game itself is generally pretty short and quick to finish. Just a lot of charm in this game.

>>8912107
>not liking unknown from M.E
>>8912239
>not liking open your heart
What's next? You gonna tell me you don't like Live and Learn? Or Shadow's original theme? Tasteless.

>>8915150
You posted the soulless part of the meme but left out the soul part for comparison. Allow me to assist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKUcIaGvSmw

>>8908538
Yeah its an 7/10 tech demo showing the DC graphics capabilities. It has that classic Sega late 90s art style. Gameplay wise its ok and does a decent job being fun

>>8912241
that was pretty based song to hear when you get to the final boss for the first time
crush 40 songs definitely made the games that much better

>>8915387
the worst track in 2 by far. anti-adventure shit taste strikes again

>>8915140
I think of this game too. It really is the definition of soul to me. I also have false nostalgia for it too. This game is really transportive. I don't understand the modern sentiment that the game is mediocre or even just garbage.
I'm gonna be honest, I had more fun with it than SM64

>>8915387
Hill Top Zone is one of my favorite tracks from Sonic 2, so no arguments there.
Still, if you're going to bring up shitty character themes, I would've at least chosen Amy's.
>incomprehensible lyrics
>grating and out of place when used in cutscenes
>never used again (at least Gamma had the excuse of being dead) because Sega knew it was the absolute worst

>>8915483
Nearly the entire Dreamcast is transportive. I really have no fucking clue how Sega did it or what they tapped into here but It really deserves analysis and people should try to draw from it more.

I feel less nostalgia for my actual childhood consoles than the Dreamcast I picked up three years ago. There's something so genuine and so authentic and so real about the Dreamcast man. And even aside from all those gay art terms its just fucking fun. I'm not saying the N64 or PLaystation are ironic and gay or anything but man. Dreamcast.

>>8909146
>>8909539
>>8911884
>Why can't he be more like that nice boy Mario

>>8915490
yeah dreamcast in general but especially sa1 is a kind of nitro fuel for boosting your imagination and putting you back in that childlike frame of mind where you no longer feel the limits of the game. it's one of those games where it just feels like anything can happen. how varied the game itself actually is and just how rich the general aesthetic and even innocuous background details really help with this

>>8915504
>go into twinkle park
>suddenly transported to some otherwordly cart track with planets and shit
>go down hole
>somehow transported to floating castle with rollercoasters and random bowling alleys
best example of this imo

I didn't like SA1 besides the sonic levels.

>>8915495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgQgo23hmD0&t=37

gamma should have gotten his own game that doesnt even have sonic in the title and maybe even has totally different gameplay

>>8915584
amy should've also gotten her own gba platformer. also tails adventures 2 on it or ds

biggs should have had his own fishing game but it somehow escalates into him saving the world through just fishing
also sonic team was literally the only thing keeping sega going since the saturn and sega is scum for mistreating them

>>8915140
>false sense of nostalgia towards despite the fact that I only played it for the first time roughly two years ago
wtf am I reading

>>8915691
yeah thats why he used the word false, i understand words are hard for you

>>8915695
so you're delusional and think people can have "false nostalgia" whatever that means
got it

>>8915708
lol

>>8915708
I think Sonic Adventure is shit personally but you're being a retard here by not understanding the simple concept that a feeling can exist independent of a memory.
Think a about a feeling of nostalgia and then suppose you were to have that feeling but it came up in response to a situation you didn't actually have a childhood memory for.
It's not complicated. Do you know what deja vu is?

>>8915724
SA is NOT shit you are fucking DISHONEST and TROLLING. Give it a fucking chance. NO MEMES.

>>8915724
>deja vu
yes I know what deja vu is. what does that have to do with "false nostalgia"? lmao
what you were trying to say is sonic adventure reminds you of the 90s. THAT makes sense

>>8915754
No he meant false nostalgia

>>8915754
it isn't at all the same as deja vu lol

>>8915754
anemoia

>>8915768
If it were the same it wouldn't be a comparison you brainlet.
Both involve feelings without actual / known / specific memories mapped to them.
A dream where you assume some premise that you realize when you're awake never really happened would be another case of a feeling without a real referent.
Really just take any example of actual nostalgia and pretend you felt that emotion suddenly in response to some activity you have zero childhood memories of. That'd be false nostalgia.

>>8915870
no, it's a general feeling childlike wonder that isn't linked to any specific thing from the past. the reason its nostalgic is just because it reminds you of the general feeling of nostalgia itself, as in being a child, not the specific context that creates it. sonic adventure seems to be designed with this feeling in mind and i think it's very much a reason so many still have so much affection for it despite its many flaws. it's not just "lol member 90s"

>>8912107
Unknown for M.E. is kino though

>>8915982
nincel only understand big band clown baby music

>>8915961
>the reason its nostalgic is just because it reminds you of the general feeling of nostalgia itself, as in being a child, not the specific context that creates it
That's almost exactly what I described already you brainlet.

>>8908538
If there were a list of /vr/ pleb filters, Sonic Adventure would be near the top.

>>8916036
that makes you a brainlet too

>>8916038
Holy shit is Sonic Adventure the Deus Ex of platformers?

>>8915764
is false nostalgia how zoomers convince themselves they totally fit it in /vr/?

>>8916213
It doesn't imply his age at all. Not everyone grew up with every console from every generation.

>>8916047
I dont really like Deus Ex all that much

>>8915961
yea no, it's a 90s game with 90s tropes. it's rember 90s, and no sonic adventure is not special in this regard, it's something that is present in lots of 90s games

also, people have "affection" (more like shit taste) for sonic adventure because lots of people here had dreamcasts, and the other camp had gc's and this was their first or 2nd sonic game
as for the false nostalgia guy, he is a bandwagoner
gg no re, nice thread, sonic adventure is mediocre

>>8916220

>>8911218
Different level layouts mostly
I'd rather have a singular and well refined game play style than 6 different ones

>>8916218
oh so he's just nostalgic for that generation aka the 90s

>>8916241
No, how are you still missing this?
>>8916235
Its really not about member 90s at all.

is parroting 2010 game journo snark about sonic adventure how zoomers convince themselves they totally fit in on /vr/

>>8916235
the genesis and saturn games are much more member 90s. not to mention generations and mania which are overtly so. sonic adventure distinctly gives me year 2000 nostalgia if it can be defined by any era

>>8916245
every zoomer here just repeats Jeff Gerstmann's opinions and realizing this feels like cracking the code.

>>8916253
this, Sonic Adventure isn’t 90s it’s Y2K as fuck

>>8916245
anon the snark has only gotten worse since 2010
it used to be "3d sonic is bad" now it's "sonic was always bad"
to be honest, I can't even fault people for thinking that.
I love Sonic, but how much is that me liking Sonic the character and how much is it liking Sonic the game

>>8916262
a flippant rebel with a heroic heart of gold is a very likeable character archetype. nothing wrong with liking the games and the character

It's fun until you aren't running 100mph with dolphins n shit flying around with camera changes WOOSH! Knuckles is terrible too

>>8916253
>>8916261
whatever you wanna call it, turn-of-the-century, attitude era, late 90s. the point is it has that attitude. but that's true for every sega game of that time and is not special to sonic adventure

>>8916332
Sure but thats not what that guys post was about

>>8916338
oh right, that guy's post was about false nostalgia lmao. tell me more about this mumbo jumbo

>>8915602
You mean Mega Drive/Saturn platformer.

>>8916424
sure. but i mean something that carries forward her advance mechanics since they're so unique and fun in their own right. though yeah an alternate reality where they were first in a genesis/saturn game would've also been nice but i feel like something like this would've generally been more appropriate for the adventure era anyway considering amy was pretty much just Pink Sonic beforehand with no distinct abilities

Hey team, haven't posted on /vr/ in a while. But I think I have decided to go on my own Sonic Adventure in real life. please wish me luck. its something I've needed in my life for a long time.
Cheers

>>8916492
i too wish to go up and down and all around

Hey guys would you want to play my Sega Sonic RPG?

>>8916654
Dunno, can I bone that pink hedgehog?

>>8916675
that is DISGUSTING. i would only make TRUE and HONEST content

>>8916679
What's untrue or dishonest about banging a hedgehog?

>>8908538
I adored this game and NFL 2K1 as a kid. For a short period of time, and had 100%, the definitive way to play NFL games on anything, period. Against people anywhere. Shit was beyond cash. I got my ass completely handed to me and learned a lot about football.

>>8916492
>>8916507
Just Go For It!

I've noticed a lot of e-celebs absolutely despise Sonic and take any chance they can for bad faith takes.
I'm mad Joel "played" Sonic Adventure, only did Sonic's story half assedly and called it game finished.

>>8918224
Its just how it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oEj6testfc

>>8909146
>it's an incredibly glitchy experience that has not aged well with the passage of time
This is said a lot, I think the opposite is true. Sonic Adventure is a very ambitious game for something that came out in 1998. It had 7 different characters with distinctly different abilities and gameplay, open world hubs, pinball, an in-game Tamagotchi simulator and stat-based racing game that you could take on the go with the VMU, and DLC. Very impressive for something that came out 4 weeks after Ocarina of Time.

>>8918234
Who in the actual fuck is that schizo?

>>8918240
but zoomers die in it a lot so it hasn't aged well hurrr

>>8918234
OH MY GOD SO THIS IS WHERE THE SUDDEN 3&K SPRITE HATEBONERY CAME FROM

>>8918224
e-celebs want to be hip but also massive dorks so they have to go out of their way to shit on anything that could be perceived as cringe to instagram users

>>8918259
To me, a lot of them seem to have something personal against Sonic. To use the same example again, Joel hates Sonic because of that kid who gaslit him about giving him Pokémon cards, and Vinny seems to have a lot of thorns on his side about being shat on for liking the SNES in the schoolyard.

>>8918267
Sonic is an autist magnet.

>>8918267
oh yeah that's a thing too for the dorkier types. egoraptor comes to mind as well

>>8918270
i am going to send you a virus that floods your boot drive with yoshi foot porn

>>8918270
That's another thing I was thinking about, once the likes of Chris Chan, the DeviantArt recolors and furfags became known and infamous, it feels the now e-celebs felt they had leverage or higher ground to get back at that bit of childhood trauma.

>>8918274
That would be terrible haha

>>8918285
kek

>>8918282
Just look around in this thread, you can smell the mental illness.

>>8918267
why do you even know all these names

>>8918297
>y does internet gamer person am know famous internet gamer person????

>>8918305
Playing vidjeo games doesn't mean you need to pay attention to youtube e-celebs.

>>8918305
the fuck are you even talking about man? i dont know these people

>>8918335
>>8918337
i don't know half of them either but its still a dumb question. you're not any more cool for using /vr/

>>8918352
who said anything about being cool? what the fuck is with you?

>>8918297
Back in 2010 Vinny used to post on /v/ and shill his stream there making threads and Joel was one of the anons on the chat originally. I might be wrong but if I recall correctly, Vinny is the reason stream promotion isn't allowed on /v/ since like 2011

>>8918394
oh was that him? i just ignored that stuff

Hey can someone put Sonic Adventure on PS? Thank

>>8918254
People have been saying Sonic Adventure aged poorly since at least the mid 2000s. It's not exactly a new idea.

>>8918458
you mean the zoomers who started with dx

>>8918431
the game literally runs on a toaster PC

>>8918516
dont care. i only have a PS

>>8918258
no, people have been saying it for ages. Even as a kid I thouht S3 Sonic looked too shiny and his feet look swollen

sonic autism and early 2000s autism is preferable to what we have now

>>8918520
are you using the PS4 browser right now?

>>8918521
you're still gay

>>8918530
time has proven me right though.most people agree S2 is the best one

>>8918538
time has proven me right that most sonic fans are faggots

>>8918542
I sense some insecurity, anon. was it your dad who beat you up for liking sonic?

>>8918547
i'm sorry you're too braindead to appreciate more than one expression on a character sprite

>>8918526
i dont own a ps4

>>8918550
I mean, his expression is pretty DERP but I didn't even say anything about that. I said he looks shiny with swollen feet
I guess you're insecure AND retarded

>>8918582
sonic 2 sonic is also shiny, he's got spikey evil clown shoes

>>8918557
so you have a ps1/2 and a phone you use to browse 4chan. pathetic. I bet you were born in the 21st century too

>>8918267
It's always that. I mean, not just about Sonic but games in general. For example, I'm not a big fan of Final Fantasy but I don't go out of my way to shit on it, I just don't care about it. Every time someone has intense hatred towards a game or franchise it's unironically because something really bad happened earlier in their life and there's something that associates that moment with that game. For example imagine if you have a GF who's a Final Fantasy fan and you end up learning that she's cheating on you.

>>8918587
I live in rural Appalachia area and am at the public library actually

Funny story
Was playing sonic on Saturn and thought this engine could've made adventure

Then played adventure. Had so much fun. So cosy

>>8911263
its just a janky game inherently and time has not been kind to it. still better than SA2 tho

>>8908538
Sonic was always good.

>>8919415
>just a janky game inherently
I dunno, I don't remember any bugs on the Dreamcast version either.

>>8918250
A fatass from a podcast. It was either Easy Allies or some other shit. He's been long dead.

>>8918224
>>8918267
>>8918305
>>8918352
>Zoomer outs himself
>scalled out
>Starts throwing a tantrum
>Is a furry by virtue of being a Vinesaucefag
Why to go, kid.

>>8918250
A fatass from a podcast. It was either Easy Allies or some other shit. He's been long dead.

>>8918224
>>8918267
>>8918305
>>8918352
>Zoomer outs himself
>scalled out
>Starts throwing a tantrum
>Is a furry by virtue of being a Vinesaucefag
Why to go, kid.

>>8912668
>tranime
You’re a faggot and I’m willing to bet you fucking love the mario odyssey vocal theme.

>>8908538
It's soulful but 80% of the game sucks.

>>8919463
I was using them as a genuine arguement for e-celebs hating Sonic for the pettiest of reasons and how that impacts actual zoomer perception of Sonic as a whole and SA1.

>>8919656
Not him, but
>Complaining about anime on fucking 4chan of all place
I want redditors out and to stay out.

>>8918604
>For example imagine if you have a GF who's a Final Fantasy fan and you end up learning that she's cheating on you.
Too real, man. Too real. ;_; I understand what you mean, yeah. "[X] was ruined to me because if [Y]" even goes beyond videogames

>>8919463
2/4
>Is a furry by virtue of being a Vinesaucefag
you even understanding what this means makes you more of a vinesaucefag than me retard

>>8919463
who are those faggots

>>8908538
I replayed it recently and I was a little disappointed overall. Sonic's route is the only one people say is good, but it suffers from Sky Deck and Lost World, and the slippery controls do not help. His physics are fucking perfect, though, and I don't understand why they didn't just keep them going forward. Gamma's story is still my favorite, even if the hold-button-and-sweep gameplay is tedious and ill-conceived. At least he's fast and mobile, unlike the mechs in SA2. Honestly, though, the game's presentation is all it really has going for it. The killer soundtrack, the nostalgic 90's beach anime vibes, the NPCs having their own little stories that advance with yours, that's the good stuff. It's just a mediocre game full of padding outside of that.

>>8921330
you're 100% wrong here and its got nothing to do with nostalgia. its a genuinely good game.

>>8920440
I first came here for the habbo hotel raids, not anime shit.

>>8921341
>Play this, it's not bad.
>Now do it again, but it's easier.
>Now get these Emeralds, fuck, whatever, just move the story along.
>BEOW WEOW dododododododododododo BEOW WEOW ahhh run ahhhh you're not Sonic though hahaha ahhh oh no
>Best story in the game but it's a short run
>Listen we're out of ideas just get in the water and push the button so we can act like there's all these fucking gameplay modes
>genuinely good game
I feel like that's overselling it. It's a genuinely good experience, but the gameplay is the weak link in it.

Speaking of, can I get some tips on gitting gud at retro sonic? I feel like I’m just stumbling through the games at the moment.

>>8909146
>aged
Kill yourself cancerous subhuman

>normalfags lied to me
You mean autists? Normal people like this game.

>>8922125
Don't hesitate, if you suddenly slope down you're going to slope up and be prepared to jump. Just remember not to hesitate. Don't just sit there and waste your precious time. When you want to do something, do it right away. Do it when you can. It's the only way to live a life without regrets.

>>8922160
Ah, so maybe I’m playing 2-3&knuckles a bit to safe then. 1 sorta got me into the mindset to carefully approach certain parts as the only fast level in 1 was the first level.

Is it mostly just replaying levels and developing muscle memory to do then better with the later entries?

>>8921349
You're a faggot and I bet you like sonic adventure lmao

>>8912107
That song was badass

>>8909146
I 100%'d Sonic Adventure and dumped dozens of hours into chao raising. Meanwhile I never got past the first few worlds of M64.

>>8922278
It's because you have aspergers

>bad faith takes

Gay thing to say

>>8921349
Oh come on, Yotsuba even was in the front page and 404 errors.
The first board listed is god damn /a/.

I remember BEGGING my parents for a Dreamcast and this game when I was a little kid, probably about 6 or 7. They didn't do it, and they were probably right. I enjoy it every now and then, but it's not even top 5 Dreamcast games for me.

>>8909146
Nailed it, SM64 has the same thing the MD Sonic games have - a fun physics engine that rewards the player for mastering it before worrying about levels or lore. It just feels good at a mechanical level.

>>8909343
Agreed, was actually playing SA2B last week just to play with Chao Garden. It's easily the best part of these games to me, I've replayed so many SA2B levels just to grab stuff for Chao Garden.

>>8914753
3K is interconnected... for a platformer from 1994. There's lore, but it's easily ignorable, and doesn't really change much from the status quo of the games before it.

>>8922209
replaying levels certainly helps and was part of the intended design but you can honestly get a feel for how you're meant to play the games and be good at them on a first try as well.

the thing is that slowing down too much and making mistakes will result in you winding up on the lower path, so you have to have a good reaction speed and do things confidently like that anon said. hesitance will only fuck you over and lose your momentum.

the games are definitely better with widescreen options for this reason

guys im paranoid, im playing s3&k for the first time (using sonic 3 AIR) and I have all the chaos emeralds, but I didn't go to hidden palace in mushroom hill zone. Do i need to avoid the big rings now if I don't care about the super emeralds? I'm afraid I wont see doomsday zone at the end if I go to hidden palace but dont collect them all

>>8918483
No.

>>8922805

you go to doomsday no matter what if you have 7 chaos emeralds. doesn't matter if you've started converting them.