/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8903203
Wonderboy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adventure Island of shit

AI just showcases how the typical NES game especially early ones was nowhere near as well-thought out as SMB in controls or physics. It's sometimes underappreciated just how good the controls/physics in SMB are, not only do most NES platformers fail to match it but even many SNES ones.

>>8903218
Having superior controls does no make smb the better game.

>>8903203
I like both games they are fun

They're not trying to do the same thing because one is an arcade port that just has linear levels comprised of you going around shooting random junk, the other was designed for a home console and thus it has elements like exploration and multiple paths through a level.

>>8903229
NO. Pick a side!

>>8903234
Wonderboy also has multiple paths if you count bonus levels.

>>8903203
Since you didn't give any reasons I'm just gonna say you're wrong.

Which retro console from the 1980's would be ideal for me?
>i hate nintendo
>hate mario bros
>I hate the Legend of Zelda
>i hate nes
>I hate RPG's
>I want games and a console that is 100% anti-nintendo in everything.
> i hate game boy

>>8903317
Is that even a question? Get a genesis you retard

>>8903317
The PC Engine.

>>8903317
the noose

Yeah ok call me a pleb sure but Adventure Island is not fucking fun because of how hard it is, this is like compared Takeshis Challenge to Sonic 3

>>8903218
>just how good the controls/physics in SMB are
Funny, because I hate them.
I can't beat either though. I only got to play AI 2 on my GB though.

>>8903317
Probably the Panasonic Super Genitari Engine U.

>>8903203
facts

>>8903218
> physics
yeah, no.

>>8903203
Master Higgins is the shirtless fat man I hope to be one day. He likes to skateboard!

>>8903218
SMB3 and Sonic 2 have the best physics and nothing has come close for 2D platformers

>>8903317
Casio Loopy was made for you.

>>8903218
I'd attribute it to Nintendo knowing their own hardware well enough to program quality controls. It's funny because the one time they didn't (N64, because the hardware was loaded out from Silicone Graphics and the development software initially didn't have Japanese instructions) they still came out the gate with Mario 64 using only 10% of the console's power.

>>8903218
Yeah we know SMB is famous but we rarely reflect on why it is important.

>>8903582
It was also a pack-in. This matters a lot. It's not all there is to it, but there's the simple fact that popular games tend to be remembered more.

>>8903203
>fewer levels
>less challenging
>no dino buddies
>can't fucking run
>gimped level design
How did they shit the bed so hard with super adventure island?

>>8903507
Those tits rival his gf's

>mfw reaching world 8-2

>>8903203

>>8903203
soul

>>8903631
holy soulless

>>8903234
>>8903237
and it also has elements of exploration because there are a lot of hidden stuff to find in levels, and sometimes it's mandatory to find them.

Anyway,
>comprised of you going around shooting random junk

He didn't play it or he'd know the main mechanic isn't the shooting, it's the jumping.

>>8903593
The real man issue with super is how short is it. The mechanics are different but they fit the game and are a welcome change of pace after 2 and 3 being literally identical, besides I wouldn't want to run too fast with such a small FOV.

>>8903317
the Game.com

>>8903317
Tiger Handhelds

>>8903317
The atari 7800

>>8903317
oi me speccy

>>8903213
FPWP.
I respect Wonder Boy for being the original but the music is actually an annoying short loop that gets tiring fast, opposed to the catchy (and longer) music track from Adventure Island.
I know you did this post because of console war shit, but eh.

>>8903317
You hate ALL of Nintendo? ALL of NES? ALL of game boy?
.... I'd say just find another hobby. I could understand not liking Nintendo 1st party stuff (maybe, it'd also be weird since there's a lot of variety and polish within Nintendo, even if you don't like Mario for being too popular or whatever), but hating the entire NES or GB libraries... nah, you don't like vidya.

>>8903581
Most third parties wouldn't have been able to pack as much content into an NROM game either. A typical early side scroller like Ninja Hattori-kun feels simple and limited.

>>8903317
Oi! You need a Speccy! Simple as!

>>8904695
Chubby Cherub. TOSE almost had something going there. It looks good and has a lot of content for NROM but the controls just fucking blow.

>>8904706
I'm now curious what was the last NROM game to be released. Evidently Namco's version of Ms. Pac-Man is it, but that is such a pathetic excuse of a conversion I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Pac-Man with a different CHR ROM.

The last NROM game was probably some unlicensed Taiwanese shit. I believe the last licensed ones were the two different Ms. Pac-Mans (released 1989 and '93).

think about it as same deal with the Atari 2600. only Atari themselves and Activision (former Atari programmers) knew how to really do stuff with it, most third parties just made unplayable garbage.

>>8903235
Super Mario Bros

>>8903218
many NES games are badly controlling torture tests rather than fun

>>8904856
but you're not me >>8903229, why did you respond?

>>8904893

>>8904893
Ladies and gentlemen, this is what AVGN did to old games

>>8903203
>AI > SMB
being what? a worse game? true

Ai is awesome and has a whole bunch of nerve racking moments. I love it. Any stage from 7-2 is total ass though. Especially an ice stage.

Smb1 is cool and very casual and gets boring after a while.

I loved all the ai games on nes even the first one on snes. I hate the metroidvania ones though, sue me. Pointless busywork.

Why are the two games at war with each other?

>>8903445
GB version sucks versus the NES version though. 3 actually ended up playing well on both NES and GB though.

>>8903629
wonder what ever happened to that guy

>>8904893
yeah true
most people just play the good ones, and those ones are still pretty good, but the shovelware is shit

>>8905285
First party Nintendo games are fun, really fun, and have top-notch controls. Much of the third party stuff especially from the earlier days of the NES is not. even Konami and Capcom's early stuff can be painful to play; they only get really good in 1990 onward. Castlevania and Mega Man 1 are stiff as fuck and do not have good controls at all.

For those who are wondering, there's an autist who samefags and exchanges post with himself about Famicom/NES games and how a lot of it is shovelware or whatever. He's somehow hoping that his effort will make /vr/ hate the NES.

>>8905301
I can understand Castlevania being stiff, but Mega Man? Mega Man is like the antithesis of stiff.
A sliding scale of jumping would look like
>Castlevania: maximum stiffness
>SMB1
>SMB3: fluid/momentum
>SMW
>Mega Man: negative stiffness, twitchy

If I have to be completely honest I played way more AI as a kid and the only reason was the music and how it had a skateboard. I was just that kid.

>>8904371
Your game is a lazy romhack.