/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8891697

Boomers & Zoomers

>>8891697
God TR2 fucking sucked.
>what tombs?
>here have some dull-ass urban and industrial levels and aim-bot hitscan trade combat for 20 hours

Tr2 was the best of the 4
2 > 1 > 4 = 3

AMA

>>8891724
What industrial levels? This was the only one. Most were sunken boat levels and Tibet mountains

>>8891724
I got into classic TR late and was kinda shocked to find out that every TR except 1 is considered mixed or downright bad

>>8891842
>AMA
explain why you like getting shot by goons every 2 minutes

>>8891858
It offers more challenge than the melee enemies, which were an absolute joke. Even the T rex could be beat by holding back and shooting pistols. Also the goons drop items so if anything it makes the game easier

>>8891852
How is that shocking? Are you 19 or something? It was well known that it was mediocre-to-bad for most of its classic run.

>>8891847
>sunken boat
okay, military. Naval. In a metal fucking box. Not a tomb. Boring. Whatever you wanna call it, asshole.

>>8891889
no it isn't. It's well known that Chronicles and AoD are bad. that's it

>>8891896
Yeah okay, sure buddy everyone loved TR3 and by the time the admittedly decent TR4 came out no one thought it was dated or had moved on. Not disingenuous.

>>8891895
The sunken boat levels were fun though. It doesn't need to be yet another ancient tomb for every single level

>>8891898
Imagine being the presumptious dicksucker that you are
>I got into classic TR late and

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>>8891861
It's almost like combat isn't the point outside of keeping you on your toes now and then and leaning on it is fuck-dumb design.

>>8891896
My issue with Chronicles is it's too short. For PS1 they should have bundled it with the PC bonus levels from the earlier games.

>>8891903
I presume he's underage or was in prison or under some sort of 3rd world rock to avoid the press and discourse at the time.

>>8891907
>being this stupid

>>8891912
Okay dipshit. Huh where'd the thread go? Funny.

>>8891914
Did you have a bad day or something? Your meds

>>8891895
>Exploring sunken ship is boring, because its made out of metal
Imagine this level of mental gymnastics required to say "I don't like this game".

>>8891889
>t. 19 yo

>>8891697
only tomb raider worth playing. why were the rest of them so ass?

>>8891842
I personally prefer 3 over 2. For me it has better level design and atmosphere. And The Last Artifact is just great.
Fight me. Or don't.

>>8892106
The kayak level was fucking garbage, can we agree on that? And of course the snowmobile was the peak of vehicular travel. Tr3 added poison, snakes, sprint and crawling. All of which are garbage. The graphics were better tho, I'll give you that. Especially level 1 and 2

>>8892185
>sprint and crawling
>garbage
too obvious, zoomer

>>8892397
Crawling is basically slow motion mode, why do you like it? And sprint is useless because it makes the controls even clunkier

TR2 was peak, especially with secrets. Every level had a gold, silver and jade statue so the secrets had a pattern to them. You'd see the glint of the item from far away then wonder how you're supposed to get there. In 1, 3 and 4 it was just a hidden door in the middle of nowhere with bullshit items you didn't even need cause you already had enough.

I ended all the games with 80-100 medkits (small + large). Also had like 2600 Uzi ammo in one of the games

TR games using enemies as traps just bothers the shit out of me honestly.
Like they want the reaction to be
>Oh I see you've placed dinosaurs/gunmen/yeti/ugly bastards with pipes in a spot that was out of view of the doorway, you tricked me by not giving me any other recourse than to be ambushed for the 50th time, game, good show, great trick

Being top tier puzzle platformers makes up for it but I've never found enemies increased the fun of the game even like a small handful of times.

Enter

The stubs prevents me from exploring the rest of the Diving Area. I need to complete this level the other way.

>>8891724
TR2 is 40 hours long

Another stub.

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>>8892598
The reason you get these stubs is because each level is completely separate from the next, even though they appear to be linked. The area past the door in Offshore Rig may be designed to look exactly like the one you will later visit in Diving Area, but they are still two entirely different levels. When you reach the end of a level, the next one loads and none of the areas from the previous level exist anymore.

>>8892403
>gold statue
I like finding this one because it means the level is about to be over

>>8891697
>What’s behind the door?
The area where you find the guy with the flamethrower, the dogs, and the four doors.

>>8892606
I've found they're not in the same order every time. You can get the gold one in the monastery almost immediately.

>>8892610
Yes but that's the next level. What happens if you enter that door during the playthrough of Offshore Rig level? What will you find?

The end of Living Quarters and the upcoming beginning of the Deck.

>>8892630
Literally nothing.

http://www.evpopov.com/

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>>8892653
Oh no!

>>8892653
>pedobucket

>>8892646
Another stub? Which level did you post?
Offshore Rig or Diving Area? Answer quick.

>>8892646
You are such a fucking bro!

>>8892659
Offshore Rig

>>8891697
When you play the level from the pov of diving area, at the end of the ramp there is a giant stud as well. Very interesting.

God all this exploring of levels and all gives me giant boner.

>>8892615
You're right. I'm on the living quarters and found the gold statue before the jade one

>>8892185
I don't mind crawling. It added a new layer to the level design. Kayak is bullshit, but it's such a small part of the game, I don't mind. As for poison - it's frustrating, but the game throws so many medkits your way, it was never an issue. I think I ended the game with 30+ medkits and that's only because I've wasted a good chunk on them on Tinnos and Willard. In TR2 I was happy if I managed to stock 5.

>>8891852
2 was the most popular one for a long while. Don't know if opinion has shifted, but just play them and form your own opinion.

>>8891852
Eh, I think the only classic games that are outright bad are Chronicles and AoD. With TR2 and 3 it's more of a case of fan preference. Although even AoD has its fans. The main problem the TR games had was that they weren't very inventive after 2, although Core tried their best.
But why change a formula that kept selling?

>>8892580
cry more, baby.

>>8892580
I think they're placed like that because they have no chance not to be sniped with her infinite ammo pistols from a distance otherwise.

>>8894046
Weirdly, I've found the combat more frustrating in TR2 than in TR3. I guess TR3 really toned down the combat in general.

I feel bad for asking about spoonfeeding but I have a retarded question. Is there a way to enable 1920x1080 resolution in The Lost Artifact? I tried every guide and I am still stuck at 1280x720 resolution.
I have the Polish Cenega version by the way.

>>8894069
No, fuck off.

>>8894108
Ok.

>>8894114
Good!

>>8891861
What challenge? Just roll over to get behind them and shoot them to death. At least with TR1 enemies you had to know and use the environment to your advantage.

>>8894410
You didn't play the game

>>8891697
Angel of Darkness is the only valid Tomb Raider game to play because Lara's model in that game was the only iteration that made me coom.

>>8892106
Replace London with The Lost Artifact and tone down Antartica a little bit and you have the perfect TR game. Sucks it hasn't been officially rereleased.

When I was a kid I loved playing in her mansion the most

>>8896104
https://youtu.be/belshmwKU2g

>>8895763
Cope. You just suck at this game. I finished Tomb Raider 1 & 2 using only pistols. With the exception of Floating Islands, enemies are barely a threat in Tomb Raider 2 if you're skillful enough to position yourself quickly - in Tomb Raider 1 you are punished severely if you fuck up reaching for a safe position and are surrounded by enemies. I only remember 2 levels where human enemies were actually a threat, one being Fool's Gold (the whole level) and the other Tibetan Foothills (just the snow cabinet where you are ambushed by 3 or 4 guys out of nowhere packed with heavy weaponry).

>>8891697
>behind the door
radioactive pedophiles on steroids

>>8896119
I smiled when in the after credits scene of SotTR, Winston rips a wet fart that resonates with the tea service. Such a good throwback.

>>8897803
Please anon, fucking kill yourself.

>>8892646
Gonna check this site out. Looks interesting.

the more the series drifted away the grid based puzzle solving gameplay the more generic and dull they became

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>>8898164
What?

>>8898196
It's for me. I will read those threads later.

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>>8892653
Interesting case, those 2 levels.

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>>8894438

Fabio: "It's not the workload that is worrying me. Perhaps the tide has
gulped it away.... Perhaps Gianni had never, I don't know.... It's just his
grave has surrendered nothing, like we say, 'substantial'. It's all very
interesting, oh yes, I'm sure of it, believe me! But it's not quite the same now
is it?"

Marco Bartoli: "Someday you will get a speeding ticket for that tongue, Fabio"

Fabio: "Hey, it's just a gut feeling, that... maybe you are wrong to look
there."

Marco Bartoli: *Punch* "Is your belief so fragile? Relax. Breathe deep. The gut,
Fabio, has no more direction than a simple 'through and out'. Honest perhaps,
but not enlightened. When my father left when I was a boy, he confided to me
that he was enlightened... beckoned by something greater than impulse. He
possessed the Seraph, but he was just a disciple in this design, his death
plotting a path to be sought by the one: his son. You understand? Have faith,
Fabio, not gut rot. We are searching the right place."

Fabio: "I know it. I believe it, Marco."

Marco Bartoli: "Good... Eros, have you...fixed that rail yet?"

Monk: "Oh, you are not one of them."

Lara: "But you are a monk?"

Monk: "Brother Chen Barkhang. You have come for me. I saw bright light surround
me."

Lara: "That was gunfire. I think it was them who got taken away by it."

Brother Chen: "But you are my guide. My path-beater to a next incarnation. I
have done my time here, haven't I?"

Lara: "What are you doing here with Marco Bartoli?"

Brother Chen: "Nothing! I led righteous life. Here for reasons rooted only in
necessary evil, as my father was before me when he bombed Gianni's vessel deep
into these waters. Now I'm here — oh, was here — to prevent his son from
salvaging the Seraph."

Lara: "The Seraph?"

Brother Chen: "You not know my life's work well? You sure you not here for
them?"

Lara: "Their Jackanory days are well over."

Brother Chen: "They want the Seraph to unlock a malignant treasure we contain in
our monastery in Tibet. Since being stolen by imbecile vagabonds centuries ago,
we been without key to it. Relying solely on cleansing of our prayers to keep it
subdued. Then the occultist Gianni B. acquired it. Trouble we knew. He breathed
life back into ancient belief. One not to be stopped by any amount of head
bowing. And now again it is here. Marco, infected with madness. He has violent
mind but not yet the power to satiate it. So we reach for our weapons once
more."

Lara: "The true Dettox of evil."

Brother Chen: "Where can you be taking me? Thought this was my big break. Guess
change is good as rest. Oh, I need one." (shots) "Aaah.." (Brother Chen dies)

>>8891697
>What’s behind the door?

A better Tomb Raider game.

I beat TR1-4. Should I play #5? Or skip to angel of darkness?

>>8900794
It's like choosing between chopping off your leg or your hand.
Chronicles is an uninspired, slapped together "more of the same" that's surprisingly buggy, AoD is way more inspired and interesting, but every mechanic in that game is just broken.
So, do you want to get bored to death or ragequit out of frustration?

>>8900821
If it's more of the same, then isn't that just what we all want?

>>8900794
don't skip shit you faggot, you this far. Chronicles is buggy but there's good in it.

>>8900891
First, it needs to actually be fun to play. Chronicles is just... lazy and random. Like it's a mission pack for TR4. Fuck, I would play The Lost Artifact over Chronicles.

>>8900821
Chronicles is ok, at least it has more variaty than 4. You should play the Teenage Lara bit, the best part.

>>8900557
You insolent idiot.

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>>8901563
Stop littering the thread with those unrelated links, use bookmarks or notepad ffs.

>>8902550
Listen you ape! This is my thread to do and post as I like. If you want discuss, let’s discuss about the story and levels of Tomb Raider 2!

>>8902653
Wake me up when it's TR3.

Awww, they're sleeping :3

>>8902661
You can sleep forever for all I care!

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Fucking snitch bitch son of a crack whore!
Kys traitor.

Oh well, atleast there is the archive...

>>8899283
*THWACK*
Eros: "Si!"

https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8891697/#q8900557

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