/vr/ - Retro Games

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No, but it's better than the N64

It doesn't have THPS.

>>8895576
But N64 has Goldeneye, Mario, Zelda... the list goes on

>>8895576
Only if you like 30 minute long arcade games or pretentious read em ups in a language you pretend to understand for vr credit

>>8895526
Correct
>>8895576
Wrong

>>8895526
>SS:
Guardian Heroes, Radiant Silvergun
>PS:
Dino Crisis 2, GT 2, Racing Lagoon, Parasite Eve, Fear Effect 1&2, RE1-3, Medievil, Silhouette Mirage (JP ver), Alundra

Saturnbros it's not looking so good.

>>8895815
actually this is why i like the saturn over the other options of the generation

>>8895878
I know it is, butt pirate.

>>8895526
no

>>8895876
>RE1
>Silhouette Mirage (JP ver)
Thanks for listing Saturn games

>>8895576
any reason why capcom never put their fighters on 64? midways 2d ports were arcade perdect.

It's better at collecting dust than the Playstation sure. Not gaming though.

>>8895804
Top kek I never realized this. Why was Sega unable to release games on both Saturn and Dreamcast? Sony was smart enough to put cross-gen games on both PS1 and PS2.
Fun fact: PS1 and N64 both got Pro Skater 3 but no Sega console did LOL

>>8895576
Even that's a stretch. Definitely not when they were current from 1996-2001

>>8895526
Saturn is okay but PS1 just had a much stronger lineup on all fronts, shmups included. PS1 gives me Cotton 100%, Harmful Park, Philosoma, Einhander, Raiden, Gekioh Shooting King in actual English and with rumble support. Saturn gives me almost nothing but arcade ports which vary in quality from good to bad, half of them being Japanese exclusives since it did so poorly in the west. PS1 gives me three Crash games, three Spyro games, and three Gex games. Saturn gives me NiGHTS, a couple of sad Sonic spin-offs, and Mr. Bones

It's also very hard for me to care about Saturn when the CDX exists. It's not 32-bit, but SEGA was better at 16-bit anyway. Dreamcast was also better when it comes to 3D games. After experiencing it for myself, Saturn kind of just comes off as the weird middle child that did a little of both and wasn't that great at either.

>>8896197
Making games for N64 was expensive AND the console was marketed as State of the Art 3D gaming, which, in 1996, it definitely was.
Porting 2D games to N64 was expensive and people weren't very eager to pay for 2D games as they were for 3D games back then. It just made more sense to port them to the cheaper PS and SS.
In general, Capcom just sucked Sony's dick during 5th gen, while Sega got all the good 2D arcade ports (mostly in Japan only)

>>8896357
>PS1 gives me three Crash games, three Spyro games, and three Gex games. Saturn gives me NiGHTS
You're already saying Saturn is superiour.

>>8895576
Oh without a doubt. N64 has none of the variety saturn does.

>>8895576
based Snoy deflecting to Nintendo.

>>8896445
Based snoy standing up for the down trodden, saturn chads and psbros fighting the worst company in gaming together, you love to see it

>>8896460
Sony fans always shitpost Saturn threads.
Good luck discussing the SAT version of SOTN

>>8895526
>port machine

>>8896476
Do you mean it pairs well with some fine cheeses or that you're a EOP youtubeling who knows nothing about the library?

>>8895526
If it truly was, you wouldn't have to tell people.

>>8895526
if only sega didn't make it incredibly hard to program for.

but also if people weren't trying to push 3D as much

>>8896471
good luck playing it with the slowdown

>>8895526
It's more interesting to the kind of people who get into /vr/.

>>8897261
Youtube is one of the biggest cancers of the internet, even above reddit, twitter and facebook
And yes I do know the library, which is why I said that

>>8897295
Being ignorant is one thing. Being so stupid as to not know you're ignorant is inexcusable.

>>8896404
Stop sucking Yuji Naka's cock for a minute in your life.

>>8896404
Nights blows. I still think Saturn is a good console but since Psx has Re2 I give them the slight edge.

>>8895526
Saturn is a premium system. It has that high quality feel to it. Great controller too. The playstation in comparison feels flimsy and cheap. Shitty controller too.

>>8897472
I will never understand how hating NiGHTS became a thing.
It's one of the most unique, soulful and fun games from the 5th gen. Surely a lot more unique and magical than shit like Crash or Gex, come on.

>>8898085
Literally just nintendo cope.

>>8895810
>adding Goldeneye
You're ruining the meme, Sonysis!

>>8898123
>crash, spyro, gex
>nintendo
stop having nintendo rent free, most of the anti-sega shitposting comes from PS fans.

>>8897286
right on time

>>8897472
saturn has virtual on.
no game on playstation is as fun as virtual on

>>8898331
Armored core rulez over shitty virtua turd

>>8898336
armored core is that game that made me tought i didnt like mechas when i was younger
its slow and clunky with the worse aiming i ever saw in any game ever

atleast say one of the good ps1 mecha games like machine hunter or future cop

>>8895526
>no FFVII
>no RE2
>no RE3
>no Silent Hill
>no MGS
>no Spyro
>no Crash 2
>no Twisted Metal 2
>weird uncomfortable controller
>3D pad is too small, only has one stick and isn't made for human hands
Multiplats also ran better on PS1. I will defend the PS1 with my life.

>>8898339
Looks like you are still a complete baby.

>>8898356
>you look weird at the console
>games never work again
saturn also had this shit but at a lesser degree

>>8896401
Saturn was also the most decent option to play SNK Neogeo fighters without breaking the bank.

>>8898356
>Multiplats also ran better on PS1.
You know you're utterly wrong especially when it comes to Capcom and SNK fighting games.

>Muh (inferior) arcade ports
And
that's
all

You'll
ever
have

>>8898441
why do most PS1 2D games have such a drab color palette? It's all super brown/grey, or very opaque greens.
When you compare to 16-bit stuff, this looks rather sterile.

>>8898450
Because limited palettes of previous generations meant you got nothing but specific bright colors for 20+ years before the 32bit generation arrived. And you have selective memory.
I could make an exception and break your legs again free of charge but I'm busy right now. Lucky you.

>>8898445
>>8898441
False flaggot nincel

>>8898440
>muh fighting games nobody plays anymore
Yeah, it sure is fun versing the computer.

>>8898441
>>8898445
OP BTFO

>>8895526
Open wide and take my shit in your mouth

>>8898339
>its slow
Way to expose yourself as a brainlet.

I own a lot of Saturn games and most of them are not arcade ports. I don't know where the port machine meme comes from. There's tons of arcade ports on most consoles from the time, they all have exclusives as well, and Saturn is no exception.

>>8898297
it's just reality
ya don't need to deny it just cause you're a console war fag
though if it weren't for that, the map completion data not being changed, and it were released in english, it'd be alright

>>8898824
well compared to VO everything is slow

but i realy dislike AC, it plays like a ps1 game. even the newer games play like shit

>>8898502
>I could make an exception and break your legs again
lol what
anyway, I said "most", I know some have pretty good color palettes, like SOTN, but a lot of them are brown/grey/opaque green. Alundra comes to mind.

>>8898827
> I don't know where the port machine meme comes
Recent forced meme from the terminally seething nintendo 64 camp. They'll just pretend all the non arcade games you might mention don't exist. They also hate nights for some reason

>>8898870
I can tell you never played AC if you think that's fast.

>>8895526
ive had one stuck in japan since like jan because the slavs cant stop shooting eachother

>>8899206
You are never getting that.

>>8899241
yeah its gay ive got a bunch of other stuff stuck there too, I can get it shipped by seamail but idk if its worth risking because apparently stuff always gets lost or damaged

>>8898554
There's still a scene for a lot of these fighters online.

>>8898085
Nights has nice graphics and music but apart from that I would rather play good platformers like Shinobi or arcade games like Sega Rally. I gave my copy of Nights to my weeb friends and they loved it but I could never say the same.

>>8899286
In that case, why play the Saturn ports when you can play the arcade originals?

>>8898085
god nights sucks man. its just horrible. its barely a game

>>8895526
It's not as good as the PlayStation

>>8899303
I like Shinobi and Sega Rally too but why can't I also enjoy NiGHTS? Well, it's too bad you couldn't get into it man, it IS an arcade-like game.
>>8899551
>barely a game
How even? One of the things that stuck out the most the first time I played it was how responsive the controls were. It has levels full of interactive stuff, from things you need to collect to side-missions where you can interact with NPCs, all without dialogue boxes. It's also timed and sort of a "free-roam" racing game. All about it is ludo. I'd like to see you argument your claim that it's "barely a game".
Sorry I get so defensive but I think NiGHTS is unfairly hated. I can't remember the last time I saw someone not shittalking it and I think at this point it's pure parroting, and not people who actually gave it an honest chance.

>>8899602
theres just nothing to it. its like a really bad arcade game.the visuals are garish and the game doesnt feel good. its like if a bunch of hippies cobbled an arcade game together. you can do whatever you want maaan you can do the loop and uh... do the looooop man.
FUck off with that

>>8899612
>the visuals are garish
It's colorful and has a neat dreamy art direction. I guess it's subjective but NiGHTS was always praised for its visuals and sound direction, it's the gameplay aspect which most people didn't "get" because they expected a platformer, Sega's response to SM64, and this was a totally different thing, more on par with Pilotwings, even.
>and the game doesnt feel good
"doesn't feel good" is extremely subjective and, again, most people would disagree, at least I do. The controls are responsive, it's one hell of a "feel good" experience, whether you like the way it's designed or not, just controlling NiGHTS feels good.
>you can do whatever you want maaan you can do the loop and uh... do the looooop man.
This is like making fun of a racing game and saying "yeah man you can drive and turn and uuuh, drive and turn". Don't be stupid.

>>8899625
There's just nothing to it man, sorry! Its boring dude! Its unflavored oatmeal.

>>8899625
The problem with it being an arcade game is needing to memorise everything. You'll make it to the 2nd level of Metal Slug and maybe even the 2nd-3rd stage of Sega Rally on your first go. With Nights you're fucked and it's not fun trying to figure it out.

Panzer Dragoon series is one of the best ever. Rail shooters and the rpg are both great. Starfox 64 is the only other rail shooter that holds up. Dragonforce and shiningforce 3 are great tactical rpgs. Sega wins the shmups battle hands down. Dodonpachi, Radiant Silvergun, Batsugun, hyper duel, soukyugurentai, fantasy zone. Light gun games go to the saturn with virtua cop and house of the dead. Cant beat die hard arcade and guardian heroes for beatemups. Nights is great. Sega Rally is the best game of its type except maybe wave race on n64. Superscaler arcade ports. Powerslave is the best single player fps released before goldeneye its like a metroid prime 0. Virtua fighter 2 and virtua on are both great 3d fighters. Its got all the capcom and snk fighters. Steep slope sliders kicks cool boarders ass. The only thing the saturn is really missing is a great 3d platformer other than Tomb Raider. Burning Rangers was underwhelming. N64 is the system for 3d platformers. The playstation has the better version of In the Hunt, and it has Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy 7 and tomb raider sequels. And plenty of jrpgs. Crash, Spyro and ape escape pale in comparison to n64 platformers. So they all have good points and bad

>>8898331
It's actually one of my favorite games on there after Sonic and NiGHTS. Don't agree 100% with those recommended games though as there's no mention of Sengoku Blade, Hyper Duel, Purikura Daisakusen, SEGA Ages (literally a better compilation than Jam), or Sonic 3D, and Street Fighter Collection is a better value than Alpha 3 which you can just play on Dreamcast. I still prefer PS1 overall, but Saturn does have a few fun titles. Glad to see Magic Knight Rayearth on that list too, I had fun with that game

>>8899932

>>8899815
You don't need to memorize it though, just be aware that you can keep playing the same circuit as long as the timer is still running, before going for the goal.
If you mean just to get the blue balls, then nah, you don't really need memorization either. I remember beating the game even before knowing about the extra score.

>>8899919
PD is one of those games i wish i could play to be honest

>>8900042
Is that supposed to be impressive? At least 10 of those are Saturn games as well.

>>8900089
>>8900089
>Is that supposed to be impressive?
the oposite actualy
for lots of people favorite console the ps1 library was kinda meh actualy

>>8900098
Its just a weird millennial thing I think. mommy and daddy got them a SNES>PSX>PS2 That seems to be the case as the bias online seems to heavily lean into favoring those libraries over any contemporaries

>>8900104
snes had a fantastic library though

>>8900042
Ah the good ol' days when snesorama.us was the premiere resource for PlayStation ISOs. Man this place never knew much about the library of the PS1.

>>8900106
too many rpgs and horse race betting games

>>8900104
>>8900106

all consoles have shovelware
the king is ps2

>>8900107
>too many rpgs and horse race betting games
oh look it's this anon again.

>>8900120
How are you?

>>8900042
And there are even more good games than that, Ridge Racer and Need for Speed series for racing/sports, the other two Tony Hawk games, Mat Hoffman Pro BMX, actual 3D Madden

>>8900124
Talking about you with some nasty people over at IRC lol :)

>>8900147
That's nice, I just got home from work a little while ago looking forward to talking about classic games for a few hours before going to bed.