/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
400 MINUTES OF /vr/
Deadline: Fri, May 6th
Rules: >>8855685

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ (Latest)
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

=== NEWS ===
[05-01] DBP47: Dreamcatcher Apparatus is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2603/

[04-27] Ad Mortem updated to 4.2
https://mega.nz/folder/e7Al3RyJ#5wvEjr9AupzvZzTcYDqFzg

[04-26] Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory free on steam
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1519002548891312129

[04-26] Anon releases his Doom engine game!
https://redead-ita.itch.io/sorrow

[04-26] Anon shares a guide on voxels for Doom
https://youtu.be/Bcd3JXKG9Ro

[04-22] Violent Rumble got updated

[04-20] Kex Quake's QC source got released, which includes DotM as well as the other expansions
https://github.com/id-Software/quake-rerelease-qc

[04-17] Doom 2 UV-Speed TAS completed in 9:42
https://youtu.be/MzuJCMV4sK8

[04-15] Reelism 2 v1.0 is released.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1217383#p1217383

[04-13] Anon shares a WIP Quake texture pack
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RWhHOpsiEmgzWeb6CQOunImcvdTD1J91/view?usp=sharing

[04-12] Arrival was added to the Unity port.
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1513913950957711365

[04-12] Modest Mapping 2 WAD finally officially released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/120097

[04-11] CountryCide, a prequel episode to TrenchFoot released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/trench-foot-wip/downloads/countrycide

[04-11] KMquake2 got a new update
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4160/new-kmq2-test-build-2022?page=1&scrollTo=31231

[04-09] Wheel of Time got a GOG re-release
https://www.gog.com/game/the_wheel_of_time

[04-07] DBP46: Monuments of Mars 2 is out
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2527/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

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What is something you'd like to see modded into Doom that hasn't been modded yet (that you know of)?

What is the easiest way to play '94 Aliens TC nowadays? Without .bat scripts, downgrading Doom version and such. Is this ok? At least I can run and play it.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/aliens-tc/downloads
Can't find any playtrough video of original mod on youtube so I have nothing to compare it with.

>>8871464
the remake is pretty much the same, is on the same page as the alien trilogy remake

>>8855685
>>8871423
https://files.catbox.moe/49qqov.7z
Update for Invaded Space, changes the barrel to a Keen while also including a dehacked patch to allow the Keens to be pushed by conveyors.
Should I add a second Keen? It feels a little easy to kill just the one.

>>8871423
>>8867276
>>8855685

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xi2yt13uhy2fxg6/SeeingRedA2RobV2.wad?dl=0

Difficulties implemented

>>8871456
I'd like to see non-ripper projectiles that can pass through and hit multiple enemies.

>>8871473
The dehacked in this map will be integrated into the main WAD, so to those of you using keens, keep in mind they have the height of a barrel and are also affected by conveyors now. There's no dehacked changes beyond that (yes lunch, you can keep putting your blue postmen in your maps)
That's all, and pic unrelated
>>8871475
Always happy to see more maps from you

I fEeL iNcReDiBlE iRe! ¡ !

>>8871476
I thought those existed

>>8855685
>>8871423
>>8871473
https://files.catbox.moe/8j6x7s.7z
Fuck it, one final update. Now you have to shoot 2 Keens to open the secret exit. Also disables the backpack for hard mode, because I forgot to.

anybody know when Back To Saturn X Part 3 is coming out?

Who comes up with the titles of these threads? They're always super cringy

>>8871468
Thanks. The ones without (2017) are not remakes though, as far as I can tell they're just convenient packages of original TC.

I saw Xenomorph Madness mentioned in previous thread so I got interested about other Aliens mods, and there are tons of them. Could anyone please give me qrd on any of them? doomwiki only has page about original Aliens TC.
>Aliens The Ultimate Doom
>Aliens Colonial Marines
>Aliens Trilogy
>Aliens Eradication
>that Aliens wad Xenomorph Madness based on
Also bunch of wads on /idgames. Also god knows what else.

>>8871547
the mods using the alien trilogy stuff tends to be inhumanly hard, mainly when played on other maps like foursite because the xenomorphs and colonial marines doesn't fuck around.

>>8871432
>try wads already
>leave shoot better far
>doomguy infighting together
>pack dicks launcher
>death started community

>>8871423
https://www.mediafire.com/file/m8u2nrca4uev3af/400min.wad/file
"I am the Fat Rabbit" by Revae
Music is "Do Not The Horse (Horseless Edition)" by Dragonfly

I think everything is working. Has coop spawns, and some minor skill level changes. Tested in singleplayer on UV. I didn't test deathmatch or anything but I threw some spawns in real quick. Didn't want to spend a lot of time on that.
50 minutes left to make changes if need be.

>>8871432
>damage bad
>fun maps
>submission enemy
>amazing chaingunner

Whoever drew Doomguy there gave him some cool looking gloves.

>>8871420
Longtime lurker here
I've never played doom before, but I enkoy you guys' threads and discussion almost daily . Think I'll finally give it a shot.

>>8871842
Cool, hope you have fun anon. Feel free to ask any questions.

>>8871850
Will do. Cheers anon.

>>8871842
>I've never played doom before
Well, why not?

>>8871842
I never understand these types of people. I browse a subreddit specifically related to my work and sometimes people pop in to say they're not in that field but lurk just because they enjoy reading about our experiences and frustrations. How could it be interesting if you dont have any connection or informed understanding of the subject?
Anyways, enjoy the games.

>>8871864
I assume it's the same reason why people enjoy watching sports even if they never participate themselves. People have varying interests after all.
That and these threads are probably some of the most consistently civil and interesting threads on the entire board.

Suggesting this as the Icon of Sin voice replacement
https://voca.ro/1kgCP5k5Nphh

>>8871825
I think they based it off those attachments you can give him in QC

>>8871473
Somehow I fucked up and my demo didn't record, also I played the first version. Nice little gimmick map. I assume the Commander Keen represents a timer of some sort but as someone who's not the mapper, it's not very obvious how much time one has left. At first I thought he would scroll from right to left and when he went as far left as he could, that would be game over or whatever, but then all of a sudden he starts scrolling right at some point. If it's intended to represent a timer, make it obvious. Scroll that floor slower so the Keen only does one pass across the room, and maybe stick like a thin red texture behind him all the way across to represent a bar and then the player can better read how much time is left. If the Keen isn't representative of a timer, then it's not clear at all what the fuck it's doing.
It's kind of annoying that one can get killed in only two hits so I think you should at least give the player a green armor or leave some stimpacks somewhere. It's short so it's not a big deal, but it would be nice.
>>8871475
https://doomshack.org/uploads/A2Rob400FDA.lmp
Cool map. My only complaint is that the fake exit had me wandering around for awhile looking for the second secret where I thought the rest of the monster count was. I'd suggest removing the exit sign there.

>>8871792
https://doomshack.org/uploads/Revae400FDA.lmp
Your filename (400min.wad) makes it difficult to keep track of this map and who it belongs to, so don't do that in the future.
Cool map, enjoyed it. My second and third deaths were embarassing, D key got stuck on one, got cocky with berserk on the other.
The first archvile should be telegraphed. Place him next to the revenant so when the player opens the door they see him and THEN have him teleport behind the player.
Revs and hell knights can be cheesed on the staircase.
The first cyberdemon needs monster-blocking lines so he doesn't fall into the lava.
There's an obnoxious wall with two tiny passages on either side leading to the spider mastermind room where you can get blocked off by cyberdemons and barons if you left them alive.
HOM at the exit.

>>8871456
Sangoku Doom

What are some golden obscure MID soundtracks?
Not exactly MID, but midi renditions of Last Ninja 2's ost are great.

>>8872007
Cool. I can fix all that pretty easily.

Your demo isn't syncing for me. Dunno why. I don't run or record demos often. Tried it in DSDA Doom and PRBoom+

>>8872007
Oh. The hallway thing was a mistake. I fuck'd up.

>>8872006
There's 2 keens, and they're only there to open up the secret exit. Like the bonus UFO in Space Invaders.

I'm trying to use a real source port instead of GZDoom all the time and I can't get DSDA Doom to run anything Plutonia-based. I don't know much about command line parameters or any of that. i also can't find anything googling it. Help?

>>8872071
If you're unable to play a Plutonia PWAD with DSDA, make a shortcut, go to its properties and type "-iwad plutonia -file (filename of pwad)" into the target. If you can't do that, just drag and drop the Plutonia wad and the PWAD into the executable or use dsda-launcher.

>>8872089
>just drag and drop the Plutonia wad and the PWAD into the executable or use dsda-launcher.
Oh. Duh. I could have sworn I tried that. Thanks, anon. I'll look into dsda-launcher too.

>>8872006
Ah, I was afraid that would happen. Consider it fixed. Thank you fren.

>>8871792
>>8872007
Fixed everything reasonably.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/rqhp92yzdn9lq4r/FatRabbit400.wad/file

>>8871510
Just went and checked the doomworld thread. Nobodies posted since like may 4th of 2021. Its over

What happened to the force engine? Did the guy get sniped by the mouse?

>>8869253
https://doomshack.org/uploads/Yeti400FDA.lmp
A little too tight on ammo, I exited the map with literally 0 of everything. The back-to-back triple archvile spawn is kind of annoying but I don't mind it too much. However, the pillar where the hitscanners repopulate really drip feeds, not only is there a ton of shit that ends up on that tower (kind of needlessly too, does there really need to constantly be a weak-ass zombieman turreted up here?), but they teleport in at inconsistent times making it a drag to kill them all off.

>>8870671
https://doomshack.org/uploads/Appointment400FDA.lmp
Nice short map, pretty fun. It's cool to see a sequel to a map, particularly a fan favorite, though I'd say this bears little to no resemblence of Appointment With Mr Pain, I expected a pain elemental at a computer. I suppose you purposely subvert that expectation with the surprise that happens in the office though so it's all good.
Nitpick- The stairwell that leads up to the red key has a brown brick ceiling that clashes with the MODWALL it's attached to, the brown texture you use elsewhere should go there.

>>8870768
https://doomshack.org/uploads/AcidCurve400FDA.lmp
The map feels pretty barren, it could use a few more monsters. Also, you can cheese the red key by just strafe running off the lift into it.

I've updated my custom tip pools for Hideous Destructor. The latest commits removed a check which could cause multiplayer desyncs if everyone wasn't using the same tip pool. Now you can load whatever tips you want.

New tips, replacing the original pool: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462331550768431104/970932066357227520/newtips.pk3
New tips with the original pool intact: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462331550768431104/970932066696962048/newtips-original.pk3
No tips at all: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462331550768431104/970932066906697748/notips.pk3

Is Blood Fresh supply good nowadays? I remember it was criticized when it released but maybe they fixed it? Or should I just use Raze?

>>8871423
>>8855685
https://files.catbox.moe/sw9t7t.zip
Biskelion (v1) by Wolpertinger
Midi is Dial Up for Murder - Two Stars

I had much more ambitious plans for this map, I wanted to make three small 90-minute speedmaps and then stitch and iron them together into a three-key map with the remaining time, but the first two ran over time budget so I decided to make due, hence Biskelion. I still have about an hour left to implement difficulties other than UV, or if other people find any bugs I missed in my 3 test playthroughs at various stages of development.
At least I can make the fully realized version as a sequel in 94 protons, right?
>>8871903
Oh.

>>8871423
>>8855685
For 400 Minutes of /vr/:
https://files.catbox.moe/sw9t7t.zip
Biskelion (v1) by Wolpertinger
Midi is Dial Up for Murder - Two Stars
I had much more ambitious plans for this map, I wanted to make three small 90-minute speedmaps and then stitch and iron them together into a three-key map with the remaining time, but the first two ran over time budget so I decided to make due, hence Biskelion. I still have about an hour left to implement difficulties other than UV, or if other people find any bugs I missed in my 3 test playthroughs at various stages of development.
At least I can make the fully realized version as a sequel in 94 protons, right?
>>8871903
Oh.

>>8871456
that point-and-click framework some anon was working on a few years ago

>>8872339
https://files.catbox.moe/opc8hu.lmp
DNF. Neat ideas here. Ultimately though there's not enough health to want to power through.
You have a lot of bullshit kaizo-styled traps, which were fun and I actually like as a gimmick, but where you're already going to kill the player over and over again as they learn the different traps, you should be giving out way more health. Medikits scattered about, or a megasphere right at the start.
Demanding the player's patience with pop-up barrels, enemies teleporting right behind you, and all of that nonsense is one thing, and I'm cool with it, but demanding additional patience because you're not doling out enough armor and health sours the experience and the map starts to overstay its welcome. Especially because the more times a player restarts, the more tedious those first two minutes spent punching out pinkies becomes.

>>8872401
Noted, I'll add some more health, even more on medium and easy, and maybe move the green armors to earlier spots.

>>8871456
A remake of the Gloom trilogy/quadrilogy which consists of:
>Gloom
>Gloom Deluxe (graphically improved re-release for the Workbench AmigaOS, there is no Gloom2)
>Gloom3: zombie edition
>Zombie Massacre (AKA Gloom4, made by same devs as Gloom3)

>>8872038
I would say "Musou Doom" but it's almost redundant when slaughter WADs exist.
But
>Mooshoo Doom

>using the Heretic Beta SKY1 and SKY3 for E4 and E5, making sure each episode has it's own sky
very fitting, even if the skies are a bit ugly, fits the "long lost worlds" feel that those episodes supposedly have
>>8872415
This game has such an awesome aesthetic. Kind of like a Doom Yu-Gi-Oh inspired fever dream.

>>8872442
Here's beta SKY1

>>8872442
>>8872447
And beta SKY3

>>8870671
>>8871423
Slight aesthetic update to Mister Pain Returns
https://files.catbox.moe/mq3kqr.wad

Swapped sky around and added co-op only shotgun and chaingun because monster weapon does not respawn. Raised railing outside so seam on the sky won't be as obvious and also lowered the poles so it won't be as obvious if monster corpse gets stuck on them.

>>8872339
>>8871423
>>8855685
For 400 Minutes of /vr/:
https://files.catbox.moe/lk3km3.zip
Biskelion (v2) by Wolpertinger
Midi is Dial Up for Murder - Two Stars

>More health added and armor available earlier >Difficulty settings and co-op starts added, though untested
>A certain monster teleporter was made non-silent
>Fixed a potential co-op softlock I noticed

>>8870309
I really like it, could use a second clock hand to better convey it as a clock though. Also maybe a Pain Elemental coming around the corner of the clock tower. Oh, and maybe like a Revenant peeking out the curtains in that window, that could be funny.

>>8872462
>>8871423
>>8855685
Whoops, flagged a blue armor for hard only instead of easy+medium.
https://files.catbox.moe/g1qbl4.zip
Biskelion (v2.1) by Wolpertinger

>>8870309
Where did you get this clock?

>>8871423
>>8855685
For 400 minutes of /VR/
https://files.catbox.moe/rl6fxs.wad
Technocratic Insanity (or Telefrag if that's too long) by Anonymous
the MIDI is Metallic Madness Past from Sonic CD
Boom format,

I wish I could fully realize this teleporter gimmick but the time limit made me rush the ending a bit. I think this map would fit right around the middle or so, map 14-16 maybe? It's pretty difficult despite the low enemy count. The enemy teleports are also a bit jank because I had to fix those last minute as well. I was expecting 400 minutes to give me plenty of time to polish my map up but I guess I'm slow

>>8872324
they can't fix it because Atari killed everything. I'm still using Raze. The mouse feels weird at first but you get used to it.

So hey, uh... Did you know that you can enforce a softlock situation if you force two Hell Scraags to fight each other?

>>8872616
>two identical creatures fight while a violent maniac screams for one to kill the other
Truly this is deep social commentary on the weeken footeh.

Is it possible to somehow simulate a horizon in Boom/Limit-removing Doom 2? I might have to scrap my current map for "400 minutes" and start a new one.
>inb4 Google it
I did, the closest I found was deep water tricks and a ZDoom linedef type that does exactly what I need but is outside the purview this project.

>>8872629
You can't make something extend forever. You can lower sky ceiling into floor to remove the distant wall but you need to hide edge of map by other geometry.

>>8872629
Do you mean you want the wall to display a sky texture?
I think you do that by having the ceiling of that sector have F_SKY applied to it. You might have to lower to ceiling to ground level too, but I'm not even sure that's necessary.

>>8872632
>>8872635
No I know how to make the sky extend by lowering the ceiling, I mean something that makes the floor extend forever without putting a 6 million unit square around everything.
I'll just go with my Plan B, thanks for the heads-up.

>>8872636
Oh then yeah, you can't do that in vanilla/boom without the aforementioned 6 million units sector.

>>8872642
>you can't do that in vanilla/boom without the aforementioned 6 million units sector
Thanks, I should have mentioned that I'd thought of that in the original question post (and maybe not put such a dipshit screenshot that made it look like I didn't know how the sky extends on walls.)
This'll probably turn-out better, altho I fear that my maps might start being seen as "all taking place in canyons/valleys" if I go with my back-up. Fuck it.

>>8872647
Why don't you want to just make a long sector manually by the way? Afraid it'll look too flat?

>>8871432

>>8872647
You'd need something to mark the map's edge anyway, won't you?

>>8872649
To be honest, I don't know how it'll turn-out. I'm VERY new to Doom 2 mapping, and I made a lot of mistakes in my first map in regards to vanilla limitations—as a result, I'm very cautious about using techniques that seem "hack-y" like that, altho I'm aware good Doom mapping can exploit lots of strange features about the engine.
>>8872660
As far as I'm aware (haven't tested it so it could be me bullshitting), ZDoom has a linedef type that makes it draw the floor texture indefinitely in a direction—or something like that. If I could replicate that effect with a small sector, It'd be preferable. I don't know if a sector's size adds to a map's overall bulk in whatever forms like file weight (like a few kbs matter) or in some other unforeseen way.

>>8872663
>. I don't know if a sector's size adds to a map's overall bulk in whatever forms like file weight (like a few kbs matter) or in some other unforeseen way.
You have static limits concerning how far things are away from the center, which can also fuck your shit up even limit-removing maps.

>>8872670
>how far things are away from the center
Shouldn't affect me in this specific scenario, BUT
>which can also fuck your shit up even limit-removing maps
This is the type of shit I need to watch out for. IDK if a lost-ass Lost Soul wandering off to the edge of the block-map will bork even Boom's no doubt impregnable safeguards.
I'll just go with "Wuthering Heights" instead of "Cloudbusting", or pick something else entirely.

>>8872616
Welp.

>>8872671
You know, if you'd still like to get a "far horizon" look without bothering with a potentially limit-breaking 10 gazillion kilometers long sector, you could always go for something like this. From your level the player won't be able to notice the stair effect OR the boundary. It'll just look like the horizon curves downward as it does in real life for a fraction of the sector length.

>>8871510
Probs not until TNT2 is out of beta.

So do I see that right that with UMAPINFO I can assign a line special to a thing's death? I.e. if I had a lonely lost soul wandering around I could make it that e.g. a lift gets activated on killing it? What if I had more than one lost souls?
I know my way around UDMF, so I would assign a thing tag, but that's not possible in Doom/Boom format, do how would it work there?

>>8872683
The first drop-off would still need to be far enough away to not notice the obvious edge of the map approaching. Not seeing over the edge isn't AS MUCH of a problem (despite my first screenshot; that was just my test spawn location) as not noticing the approach to the horizon, which would require it to either be sufficiently distant (as to cause sub-pixel movement of the horizon along the Y-axis) or to render as "horizon" (e.g. the floor texture repeating towards the midpoint-ish of the view).

>>8872694
The monster also needs a Boss death state.

>>8872694
The monster would have that special in its death.

>>8872694
umapinfo lets you use bossdeath actions outside of the hardcoded maps, however you will still need to use dehacked if you want to make non-bossdeath monsters be able to use the 666/667 tags, iirc.

>>8872683
If you made the sectors darker as they step down it could maybe work better.

>>8872683
>>8872731
Absolute simpletons. There's no reason to have the descending steps, you can't see them from that angle. They're descending, meaning they go below the horizon line, meaning it would look no different than a sector just cutting off at a certain point

>>8872759
I guess you're supposed to see the first few ones.

>>8872341
But anon, doom is already as point and click as it gets.

>>8871456
A Shadow the Hedgehog mod. early 2000s edge cranked up to 11. Played completely fucking straight, no irony whatso-fucking-ever.

probably the only general on this shit board that is actually good. thank you boomers o7

https://mega.nz/folder/sDAyVCjL#WREReSsTuvZWqNZYYZO3xg
blind(ish) runs of 400min submissions so far. most maps are in the versions as of the start of this thread, but I've also played through the new submissions since. and it turned out I missed a patch for NepNep's map.

some things I forgot to say or changed my mind about:
"Could Be Worse" - I called it a bunch of bullshit, mostly had to do with not having enough space in the final fight and missing the shells. the RNGey start and the crowded imp closet are fine in my book. also the midi was great.
"Kratom Withdrawal" - getting the BFG depends heavily on where the player happened to have killed a bunch of imps - for no good reason, really. maybe lower the revenant pillars instead
"Shittlecock" - you seem to take feedback and then use it to block off working strategies. unalerted PEs plasma is still possible, just obscured from the player. also, a teleporter for lost souls but not for the player? despite all that, this isn't even in the top 3 hardest in this set, I think. the anon(s) getting pissy aren't actually playing the maps.
"Pac You in the Face Man" - would benefit from a shorter setup, I think.
"Sisyphus's Chrysalises" - in case you don't watch till the end, the sky is broken.

>>8871864
>>8871890
I don't play doom, just quake, but i enjoy the regular doom OC here. Cheers /doom/.

quake quake quake quake quake quake

>>8871456
A Little Big Adventure mod, with Twinsen's bouncing ball as the predominant weapon.

>>8871456
Proper multiplayer support for GZDoom (server/client system like zandronum).

>>8871456
A Duke 3D mod that actually plays like Duke 3D

>>8872897
Seconding this

>>8871501
>>8871476
It's somewhat codable, Pandemonia has it for the nailgun but it's only in zscript

>>8872897
Isn't Zandronum exactly that?

>>8871456
Splitscreen support for GZDoom so that I can do couch coop with my friends.

>>8872564
I noticed that Fresh supply has a custom difficulty thing while raze doesn't it. What's up with that? Some people on the net recommend going custom difficulty over well done

>>8872948
Zandro is ancient

>>8871456
A non-damaging death exit special for mbf21.

>>8872972
I'm not sure why they made it a floor effect.

>>8872897
You'd think it would be added already but I guess it isn't a priority to Graf

>>8872676
By the way, the rune in Escape from Miasma doesn't seem to appear anywhere despite using the latest version of pak1.pak.

>>8872984
The rune is supposed to be around here, right?

>>8872975
They only ever intended for one death exit.
I just want to make a holdout map.

>>8872961
>Some people on the net recommend going custom difficulty over well done
GDX and NotBlood have that option and they’re both more accurate and updated than FS. Raze will hopefully get it sometime soon, but I’m not missing anything by using those other two ports so no rush.

>>8855685
>>8871423
>>8870768
Big update to my map, made it more populated, replaced the rad suit with health in hard mode, added an archie and a pain elemental.
https://files.catbox.moe/agq9xd.wad

>>8871420
Recommend me more mods like Ashes.

>>8872948
No Zscript so I can't play Golden Souls 2 with my friends.

Is there any reason of why yamagi and KMQ2 doesn't show death messages on sp?

New to mods
So I drag the mod over on .exe file and choose which IWAD I want to to play. Have I got this right?
Isn't this kind of a tedious way to run mods?

>>8873045
You could get a loader.

>>8873009
The suicide bombers of the insect world.

>>8873045
What's tedious about dragging?
BTW you can draw multiple files, for example rfhelltx.wad + one of the 400min levels posted here for quick testing

>>8873045
you can add gameplay mods to autoload in gz.
and you can save the launch command to a shortcut or a batch file. or use a frontend, yeah.

>>8872990
Didn't the project lead move it to a secret area?
t. clueless map author

>>8873045
I used to plain make a shortcut to GzDoom and then add the necessary files to the path for whatever mapset or mod I wanted.

That shit is cumbersome as bullfuck, and Doom Launcher is a million times more convenient, you can add multiple sourceports to it and divide pwads up into your own categories.

>>8872867
ty anon
What source port did you play in? One of my archies didn't spawn.

>>8872867
>freelook

>>8873127
DSDA 0.24.3
ran without -complevel though, so some behavior might be slightly off.

>>8873135
Yes.
no freeaim

>>8872867
For Invaded Space, I only included the dehacked file in the zip for other people to use if they wanted Keens to interact with conveyors. The .deh lump is baked into the wad, you'd just have to load it like any other.

>>8872984
>>8872990
It should be there. If you reloaded a save that was on that level you may need to return to the start map and re-enter it.
>>8873058
I hardcoded it in for the initial release because you hadn't included it in your map by then. The current version of the Mega folder is your updated one.

>>8873142
>wants full mouselook but doesn’t want to compromise encounter design
Commendable.

>>8873156
What the hell, it's not there despite me revisiting it after I have already beaten it once. Something must be going wrong with the folder or QSS. I'm using the one that was in MEGA and the updated pak1.pak.

>>8873161
hmmm... Let me set up a testing directory for just the pak files and have a look.
I'm running raw files, but everything in the paks looks to be in order.

What is the best source port for first time playing? Chocolate, Crispy, GZ, etc? (for doom 1 and 2 )

>>8873178
They're all fine. How much do you care about accuracy?

is there any heretic/hexen mod that takes stuff from mageslayer?

>>8873179
well i want to play it how it was supposed to be played but at the same time i dont want to be autistic about it so i'd say quite a bit

>>8873189
Chocolate or crispy then.

>>8873198
thanks fren, i think ill use crispy

>Quake 2 is easy they said, Reckoning is easy they said
>Pic happens
Have i said how much i hate beta brains?

>>8873165
I'm running raw files + pak1.pak. Maybe it has something to do with that?

>>8873241
Yeah they fuck you up. There’s been a chunk of anons here warning people at how much the expansions complicate things.

>>8855685
>>8871423
https://files.catbox.moe/e4l3zy.7z
For 400 Minutes in /vr/
Small updates for Compound Fracture & Archahellago based on feedback and watching people play.
For Compound Fracture:
>Added a Mancubus that spawns in after grabbing the red key, blocking off the blue door.
>Changed the Revenants to be in a closet instead of rising up out of the floor.
>Set the vent monsters to all be deaf.
>Put a little more ammo in the vents.
>Fixed a missing door track.
For Archahellago:
>Moved an ammo box so it can be more consistently picked up.
>Added 2 more radsuits, just in case.

>>8872958
Damn, imagine the possibilities. Takes me back.

>>8873264
i know that, it is funny how id fucked with the rushed release and could had patched the game with this AI back in 3.14

>>8873259
Likely. You should just use one or the other.

>>8873297
Huh. Then latest QSS must be broken in a weird way or I need new raw files to fix the issue for good.

>>8872449
Pretty

>>8872690
I guess that makes sense. I thought it might be close to done cause its been ten years since the first BTSX dropped

>>8873308
They're probably polishing the hell out of it. I guess BTSX team will be going for idgames release right away instead of beta 1 -> beta 2 -> more betas??? -> idgames release.

>>8872690
>>8873308
Like you know the anniversary or something like that.

>>8873278
Could’ve and should’ve, don’t know why they wouldn’t but I’ll do the usual thing and just blame T. Willie.

>>8873310
Yeah thats probably good too. Just a full release

>>8871423
Update for 400 minutes of /vr/ map "Could Be Worse" (v3)
https://files.catbox.moe/f26jrd.wad
Changes:
>Hopefully fixed an arch vile teleporter
>Final fight is slightly (and only slightly) easier. It's now also triggered by a switch instead of a walkover line
>I learned how to into doors so I no longer have those thin metal bars bars during the final fight.

SHAREWARE FAGS BTFO
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128910-episode-1-is-the-best-doom-episode-change-my-mind/?page=2

>>8872867
>Kratom Withdrawal
>maybe lower the revenant pillars instead
What do you mean, like put a BFG on the pillars? I don't quite get how lowering the pillars helps the player get the BFG, and it would give you way less cover from three roaming Archies. Just trying to understand the suggestion.

>>8873345
yeah I meant putting the bfgs on them. maybe lower them slower/later so that there's still a point to baiting the cyberdemon out. the room gets crowded with revived imps, I can't imagine doing the pillar-to-pillar LoS dodging there for long.
anyway, that was just me thinking out loud.

So here is a friendly advice for all involved
If you HATE the fact that Q2 has widescreen issues til this day with the gun models
just open your config file for baseq2 at yamagi or kmq2 or what port ur using and set
>gun_z "2"
you will get a proper viewmodel for it in widescreen

>>8873405
this fixes the retarded clipping issues the gun models has, like the floating hands and railgun
if the remaster ever happens, i hope id and nightdive renders the entire mesh instead of chopping in half and call it a day

>>8873413
If a remaster ever happens, i want muzzle flashes.

Are the Arachnotrons functionally the least interesting enemy additions of Doom 2?
I never see them used as anything but as turrets

>>8873419
they accomplish their function as asshole turrets well.

>>8873419
Hell Knights are.

>>8873419
I use them as mobile monsters too.

Been playing some Redneck Rampage recently and I do gotta say that while they nail down the "real world locations rendered great in Build Engine" feel really well but the game itself feels awkward af.

Thankfully Redneck Rampage Rides Again is a lot better in terms of it's level design (as well as introducing better enemy variety) even if the design of the keys is still bizarrely player-hostile in my opinion.

In general the best parts of Redneck Rampage is when it's doing piss takes on different "lel Deep South" thematic environments and rolls on the "jokey bits", with the new enemy types, better pacing etc I feel like Redneck Rampage Rides Again is so much better than the base game which had it's moments but also depressingly bad sections as well.

>>8873413
>chopping in half
wut? adjust gl_znear breh

>>8873441
Even if jank, its inspired. Something you cant say about modern games.

For the music alone its worth it.

>>8873413
>>8873405
I’d try this through the console and when I’d look around it would move too far forward or too far back. Does setting it up through the config prevent that?

>>8873425
yeah, but people actually use hell knights.

>>8873451
just set how you please in config.cfg any other mod or the xpacs will copy the parameters for it.

>>8873448
>>8873441
Even the manual for the game is great too, it's so soulful it's well worth a read. You can tell the team who worked on it had a freaking blast with the whole redneck theme.

>doom fandom wiki talks about how mancubi had a high pain chance in its tactical analysis section
>mancubi actually have the sixth lowest pain chances at 31%

>>8873448
>le modern game bad
This is a tiresome non-argument.

Redneck Rampage is a charming game, it's like an extended shitpost in build engine first person shooter form but it wears me out way faster than Duke Nukem 3d, Blood or even Shadow Warrior does. It's not a bad game but I feel like Redneck Rampage specifically lives and dies with it's cheekiness and "neat real world location done in Build Engine back in the 1990s" kinda thing, but as said, thankfully Redneck Rampage Rides Again kind of has better pacing, better level design and also imo better usage of setpieces.

>>8873446
all Q2 weapons meshes are rendered in half, the other side has nothing since it was never meant to be seen by the player in low res 4:3 screens, only by Q3A id started to render full models by using the same model for it.

>>8873478
>le modern game bad

Yes.

In fac its worse than you think we are in a transitional phase that may or may not go well.

Outside small projects, convince me otherwise. I am open.

>>8873482
>Outside small projects
Quit paring-down opposing arguments to bolster your original, critically-flawed point. Modern indie games exist and counter your point you stupid fucking faggot, get over your bitterness, it's not impressing anyone.

>>8873441
Best looking buildstuff prior to recent releases. I can’t ever get too far into them, though. I usually make it through the first episode before I’m burnt out.
I also don’t feel that the soundtrack suits the gameplay or level design. It’s perfect for Rides Again’s bike sections but not so much when you’re going through their elaborate levels.
And yes, it has an amazing manual. It’s very charming in general. These are the guys who would go on to make Quake 2’s Reckoning and then the best Wolfenstein game: RTCW.

>>8873482
>convince me otherwise
I'm not going to waste time on that, it's not like I get anything out of it. You can miss out on all the good games out there for all I care.

>>8873462
Yeah, the redneck theme is so good and it's basically on the level of Shadow Warrior in terms of how tuned up to 11 the whole redneck theme is, it's a full on piss take but in an endearing way and not spiteful. A lot of semi-juvenile but still dumbly charming humor without forgetting a bit of sex in the form of those alien vixens lol!

>>8872867
Biskelion Bifeedback:
>I need the plasma gun don't I?
I can do that part with rockets fine, but I can see the player not having enough if they already used some of them on the first arachnotron or if one or both mancs in the previous room took 4, I'll place a few more rockets, but I'm not changing them to chaingunners.
>This is novel, but a bit too hectic
It's only supposed to happen after you get both the red and blue keys, so I'll fix it.

>>8873452
Plenty of people use the spiders.

>>8873001
>>8871423
Update for the update, i added a midi to the map
it's One love from the prodigy, i was considering using Poison proper but i felt like it would be too upbeat for the map
https://files.catbox.moe/39q9au.wad

>>8873001
It's better, although it's mostly just the addition of gunners. Still, without armor it makes you watch out. The lack of armor was kinda annoying me but then I realized it adds to the challenge, especially with a lot of hitscanners. Removing the radsuits is also a little mean, which is exactly what this map needed, so good job. Arch-vile is limp dick though, can't do anything, just there to waste time. The ending closet is also pretty pointless but I do enjoy the pain elemental.

Also the red key door can still be used twice but it no longer soft locks the map.

>>8871423
>>8855685
For 400 Minutes of /vr/:
https://files.catbox.moe/1av4xy.zip
Biskelion(v3) by Wolpertinger
Midi is Dial-up for Murder - Two Stars
>Fixed a trigger that's supposed to require two keys sometimes triggering with only one.
>Placed some more rockets on the southern path.
>Embraced an emergent solution to the fatty sandwich, as it turns out lower difficulties were actually harder.
I'm considering swapping some pinkies/spectres on the berserk trap with imps, to make the fight both shorter and more interesting.

>>8873528
>>8873539
Did more changes now,
Instead of an archie you get some specters and removed the ending closet and prettied up the place instead.
https://files.catbox.moe/3d2jw0.wad

Anyone else dreamed of working in Black Mesa, whether it'd be as a scientist, security or just like a janitor / warehouse / maintenance worker etc?

Or, extending this : which retro fps universe would you want to live / exist in? Preferably more than just as the shooty pooty man.

>>8873558
It would be really cool to have a big half life echoes kind of detail black mesa facility to explore with no stress.

I love Echoes look, its retro yet slightly more detailed. Like many quake or thief fan made stuff.

>>8873558
I wouldn’t mind chilling in the Chex Quest universe, and I love Chex mix.

>Marking map's only rocket launcher as multiplayer-only
Truly a mark of a great wad.

Trying out the SuomiMappakersEpisodeJam for the first time ever, its certainly something out of the ordinary. . .
QSs fucks me over by not making secret items drop as intended - whereas the Mark5 sourceport lags like shit, but at lesast the secrets are properly functional

Doom 32X Resurrection updated!

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119202-doom-32x-resurrection/?page=9

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6269/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkW21Yx_VXM

>>8873558
The background lore of Marathon doesn't sound so bad if the Phfor aren't attacking, and an AI doesn't decide to "borrow" you for a job.

>>8872958
I wonder if you could do this with ZScript? Like you'd still need a second computer for the second player, but I mean hooking up a computer to a big screen TV and then have some sort of splitscreen shenanigans. Maybe Player 2 could have some sort of camera attached and then displayed on Player 1's screen.

But perhaps there would be too much latency.

>>8873471
How many are tied for 1st-5th?
Also the pain chance of an imp or former human or whatever is almost irrelevant.

>>8873629
are you trying to run MarkV WinQuake in native resolution or something? a software renderer isn't going to like that, run the directx one instead.
or better, just use regular QS.

>>8873419
From a distance they can work good area denial, see Map 03 of Plutonia for an example, where they're also exploitable for infighting. They can also be an absolute pain at closer ranges because their hitboxes are obnoxiously wide, and their shots do actually hurt like fuck, particularly as they will keep firing until interrupted.

do you guys think id would've made brutal doom/project brutality instead of the original doom if they knew how to do all of that shit? seems likely

What do you do when some foreign guy makes some maps for a very niche game but they're very amateurish and not very good?

I don't want to say the fucking suck but I also dont want to lie and say "they're great!"

There's only been one map released for this game this year and he's claimed he's made 16 in 5 months. They're clearly all flat, very simple slaughter maps too.

>>8871456
I want to play as the monsters versus doomguy. With the same health as a normal monster. Every time you die as a demon you just take control of another that's nearby.

>>8873693
I think BD/PB is too much of a power fantasy for the horror themes in the original vision of Doom.
Therefore, they would have made Hideous Destructor.

>>8872867
Thanks for the feedback on Cracked. All I have to say is that you don't need to rocket jump to get that secret, just a good running strafe run. Fun fact, the area for that run used to be a lot shorter but I still got it reliably.
As for the obsecenely long doors at the end, that's mostly to prevent players from just yoloing themselves past everything and running to safety. If I had more time, I would add a minor switch puzzle instead.

>>8872484
Junkcity texture pack.

>>8873707
Not to throw in my own bias towards HD but yeah, you nailed it.
For the kind of “style” most appropriate to Doom, I refer to Aliens with all those badass “OO rah” marines who eventually go “oh SHIT” and get torn apart.

>>8871432
>play /vr/ gzdoom
/vr/ has its own gzdoom fork?

>>8872919
Does GZDoom actually desync often? I thought the main hassle was game startup (and not supporting in-progress joins)

>>8873759
It mostly depends on the number and complexity of the mods you load, but sometimes it will just crap out for no reason, or do something bizarre like desync one specific player if he connects before another specific player, but if you swap the order they connect in everything works fine.

After a few more hours of procrastination, I'll finally work on my 400 mins of /vr/ map!

>not starting your map 400 minutes before the deadline
ngmi

Finally started my entry.
120/400 minutes used so far, as I break for supper.

>>8873693
all i know is that romero said the gore would be too much, it'd "destroy the industry"
there's even a huge pile of bodies prop that was cut for being too brutal to 1993
that and you had to think of how doom is both simple and complex enough, as a way to follow up from wolfenstein 3d
hence why most doom alpha, beta and tom hall's bible ideas were cut or never considered
>>8873707
i always imagine that a timeline where doom mods were official games is one where the series was never rebooted and the source code was never release
this if if you think of doom mods, wads and fan content as an alternate version of the series or an unofficial "expanded universe"

>>8873686
QS is even more laggy than mkV at 1600x900 and the tiny alcoves from which some of the secret items should be revealed from simply refuse to drop them to the ground for some reason - they just keep afloat in mid-air instead, I had to redo the secret key level because of it (-_-);

>>8873816
I'm assuming it's the same issue that prevented health and ammo from spawning properly in impco under QSS. but regular QS worked fine.

I'm going in!

>>8873898
what vidya am I looking at here?

>>8873907
ashes

>>8873907
Ashes afterglow

>>8873898
The amount of content is astounding in Ashes, deserved my money more than fucking hedon.

I hope he does something else.

are mechanical keyboards just a meme?

>>8873929
>>8873907
Jumps & crouching enabled?

>>8873929
>>8873916
Are jumping & crouch enabled in this mod?

>>8872995
Is NBlood better than Raze? I used Raze for Duke and Shadow Warrior but I'll switch if theres a better option

>>8873957
You can enable those regardless, but yes they’re designed with both in mind.
>>8873960
>Is NBlood better than Raze?
Fairly certain Raze uses a version of Nblood.
To make matters confusing, NotBlood is a fork of NBlood with a few new features.

>>8871423
>>8855685
For 400 Minutes of /vr/:
https://files.catbox.moe/17vkjc.zip
Biskelion(v4) by Wolpertinger
Midi is Dial-up for Murder - Two Stars
Last update unless anyone finds any more bugs, I've only got about 30 minutes left. Swapping some pinkies/spectres for imps in the start of the south path was definitely the right call.

Thanks Sandy. Cool fucking map.

>>8872147
know lucicusxl he probably got swamped with work or found another project, he isnt exactly known for completing things

>>8874031

>>8872867
>Liked my map
I thought it was a bit tedious at worst, but thanks. Maybe I should have used fewer pinkies after the first teleport. The plasma is in a secret in the conveyor room, alongside a Berserk. It's the only secret in the map

>>8872147
It's like 99% complete and you can download it and play it right now from start to finish.

He just isn't implementing high resolution or framerates until after version 1.0

>>8874062
Music doesnt work either.

>>8874061
I figured the pinkies are expected to infight with the mancubus if you play your cards right.
as for plasma, I thought it would end up mandatory since otherwise there's no real reason to bother with any of the conveyor enemies.

>>8873670
Lowest chances of flinching are
Archvile
Cyberdemon
Spider mastermind
Baron
Hell knight (same as baron)
Mancubus

>>8873471
I can stun them pretty reliably with the chaingun.

>>8874084
They're hitscan so the idea would be that the crushers would stop the player from moving forward when they're down and so if you didn't kill them they would get you while you couldn't move.
Getting the crushers to have "random" positions when the player gets there was a pain in the ass. I had to hide linedefs that would activate them at random locations in the map so that they would SEEM random. It doesn't work as well as I would like

>>8873558
Either System Shock, Counterstrike, or Unreal for me.

>>8871423
>>8855685
>>8867276
>>8871475
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhijlqkifd3tkpc/SeeingRedA2RobV3.wad?dl=0

Version 3 for Seeing Red. I touched up some visual shit and added coop stuff (untested).

For me Doom maps look more impressive in the top-down view than ingame.

>>8873786
Looks nice so far, especially with how much time you have left.

>>8874172
Thanks. I got over-ambitious, so I'm lucky the layout was easy to nail.
I've spent the past hour on the final arena gimmick, which is a fucking waste of time because I should have had it done in 20 minutes, but I'm such a picky bitch smfh.

>Found a stream of last Sunday Night Shitshow on Bezo's website
Lol this is fucking awesome, keep going anon

Did we ever find the intermission screen music for 400 Minutes of /vr/?

>>8874280
We thought about making it a ticking clock. We're still open to suggestions though, just make sure it's in midi format. We're looking for something ominous, in line with 300 Minutes of /vr/'s intermission.

>>8874283
Curse of Weil could work. There's a midi for that on vgmusic, but I'm not sure if it's good or not

>>8874283
>We thought about making it a ticking clock.
https://youtu.be/NUflMBsoonY
https://files.catbox.moe/fpqllh.mid

>>8874293
Excellent taste, but it's too triumphant and happy for what we're looking for.

>>8874298
Fair enough, even if only for consistency with 300 minutes. I just figured I'd post it because triumphant fits an intermission midi in my opinion.

>>8874290
Gave it a listen, it's pretty good. We'll consider it, thanks anon.
>>8874306
Now don't get me wrong, it's a good song, but we have a story and atmosphere developing and we want the midi to complement it.

>>8874283
>ticking clock
My first thought: https://youtu.be/vqTZfknDVes (which is weird for me because I rarely think of Chrono Trigger)
But per >>8874298, it might sound a little too whimsical, and especially too "triumphant" once the theme proper kicks-in.

>>8872867
Thanks for the entertaining playthrough. I have a question about "Sisyphus's Chrysalises". Did you find the doors annoying? Do you think it would be better if they couldn't close or would that ruin the map? I'm considering making them permanent doors per others feedback.
Also thanks for the heads up about the sky. I didn't test with freelook or gl rendering.

~4 hours left and I'm trying to be rather ambitious.

>>8874358
I have no doubt you can make it work. Go for the gold, anon.

>>8873241
>Reckoning is easy they said
Haha, what a nice joke

>>8874358
Godspeed, anon.

>>8873704
IMPatience is this and it's really fun, but a bit easy even on the "easier" difficulties.

I haven't actually completed a UV-Max run yet, but here's my 400 minutes map in its current state:
https://mega.nz/file/g41F1LBY#Bw1_rhQKKd-U7kfwAv77D4OFJyzlM7edQmYkgIN2bLM
Feedback appreciated as always. Thanks. I'm going to take a break now because I'm fucking burned-out.

I enjoy mt erebus

>>8874603
https://files.catbox.moe/5zpgi3.lmp
FDA, forgot to specify a complevel.
Pretty intense level until the end, because it was really tight on ammo. I spent way too much time trying to grab the plasma gun.

>>8874678
>I spent way too much time trying to grab the plasma gun
I laughed hard watching that, lmao. Thanks for stress-testing it, I always have tons of fun watching people play through my maps.
I see what you mean about the ammo. I think it'll help if I remember to add a backup Plasma Fun somewhere more accessible.
Since I've got 15 minutes, I'm also gonna put in an optional Blue Key and an accompanying lift to bring the player back from the bottom to the top of the starting area.

>>8874753
I would say for the plasma, just move it so you can jump onto it from that platform with the soulsphere.

>>8874757
>make the Plasma Gun easier to reach
>mfw
I appreciate the suggestion, but the start is laid out so that you can only jump to one of the sections from the beginning, until you can get back later.
I'd rather keep the hard-to-reach Plas at the beginning, and also add a second Plas somewhere that you can "fight your way" towards (probably on the other side of that crusher by the Yellow Key, since standing on that side will aggro that Baron gangbang, and I liked watching you abuse their helplessness with the Plas.)

>>8874161
Modern doom mapping is 90% about making automaps look cool

>>8871423
>>8855685
"I'll Be Here 'Til I'm Dead" by RancidSam
https://mega.nz/file/xkVFVBQZ#abQeKR-ACKQeBwkgZuBy5GtHgjeFTOEVEhUoox4Y8yc
Format: Limit removing (-complevel 2)
Tested with: Crispy Doom, DSDA
I used up all my 400 minutes, so unless there's bugs I need to fix, this is my submission.

>>8874352
I mean, they're kinda annoying but kinda unique also. I think it's exacerbated by the map's size and the fact that you can't afford to use plasma as your workhorse.
I would make it so that collecting either one of the three keys allows exit, and any further comb-over is the player's choice (happy Sisyphus/uvmax autist).
just throwing more cells could also work. permanent doors seems like a more drastic change. if you're going with that, you could also cordon off some large sections with a third door type that opens all at once on some event. this seems like another map entirely at that point though.

>>8874298
Could just use Countdown to Death from Doom 2, or find a remix of it.

>>8874920
We're mapping in complevel 9 - hope you haven't been relying on the lost soul limit when testing.

>>8874968
Oh shoot, I forgot there's weird differences between the lower complevels.
I didn't use anything specific to complevel 2; AFAIK, it should be Boom compatible, just without any Boom-specific features. Thanks for the reminder tho.

>>8874280
While we're still on music, UMAPINFO lets us use whatever music we want for each text crawl, so suggestions to that are open too. I've already decided >>8870142 will be used for the ending, but the rest of the text crawls are open. Looking for something ominous like with the intermission.

>>8874981
if we're going with ominous, some X-Com stuff could work: https://files.catbox.moe/g98mnq.zip
don't remember any wads ever using anything xcom, now that I think of it.

>>8873558
Marathon, Heretic, Hexen, Descent, Thief
They all kinda suck if you're not the pointy shooty man or equivalent, but all are gorgeous as fuck.

>tfw worked on my map for a bit over an hour on monday and haven't had time since then
I'm happy if I even get the initial version out until friday. Real life is currently really hitting me hard, and I think I'm getting ill.

>>8875003
What's an RMIDI and why can't slade play them?

>>8875028
uh, no idea, got them off mirsoft. I'll check if re-exporting them will work, in a bit.
but also why are you using slade, can't even seek through or anything. use foobar.

>>8875028
seems to work now: https://files.catbox.moe/u95q7y.zip

test

>>8874981
fixed up the Tyrian tracks I posted last thread since those were also RMIDIs. also included the Duke 2 menu theme: https://files.catbox.moe/xwfpkw.zip

>>8871423
>>8855685
https://files.catbox.moe/j85z2p.wad
Map: Where Girls Learn to Pee On Command
Author: MacGuffin
Music: Unholy Armada from Soldier Blade
The sequel to Maniacal Menstruation that nobody asked for. Not too proud of this one, honestly. Gonna need some pointers in the right direction for these encounters.

>>8875175
Just gave it a try, it's a real fine map. Great traps and surprises. Only pointer about the encounters I could give you is that I felt a bit strapped for ammo by the time I reached the final elevator. Maybe I wasted too much of it during the rest of the level, but something like a secret ammo cache would really help with giving you some leg room.
Also, is the window in the north room just an exit, or is it meant to also let you see where the yellow key is from the outside? Because if that's the case, it's a bit too obscure to be properly visible, you have to stand on the very edge of the platform next to it to get a peek at it. The key would be more easily visible if you gave it a couple more units of height.
Finally, I found two bugs during my playthrough:
>by hugging the west wall in the elevator ride I somehow got pushed into the exit door room one time, even though the elevator wasn't even halfway there
>couldn't manage to open the exit door, had to idclip through it
Over than that, I had a fun time with the map. Good job!

jay-z doom

>>8875350
more like gay-zee doom lol

What exactly does "multisample" option in GZDoom multisamples?
The only thing I see is that it smooths the linedefs. Is it the only thing changed when increasing resolution?
Same (visually) effect can be achieved with FXAA, but FXAA also smooths sprites, and even textures a bit, and smoothed sprites looks like shit.

Good news! The art that I found last time I was on the internet now has a finished version.

>>8875556
under opengl, seems to do a full SSAA (smoothing out individual pixels on the texture and reducing moire shimmer in the distance).
under vulkan, only seems to do MSAA (edges of geometry).
FXAA is just a blur filter compared to both.

>>8875587
man gynecomastia is such a sad medical condition to have

>>8875594
Speaking of which, the Vulkan one is broken, it does one less of what it says. So 2x does nothing, 4x does 2x, and so on.

>>8874928
>Chaingunner on the Tower of Babel
Kino as Heck

>>8874247
Could you share a link, please?

>>8875642
Yeah, I'm playing with Vulkan, thought it's kinda strange that 2x is indistinguishable from Off

>>8875594
Smoothed textures are not as bad as smoothed sprites, but still not for everyone.

Also I asked about some way to smooth weapon sprites only, checked mentioned NeuralUpscale2x mods, the one that upscales everything is so fucking bad even trilinear filtered GZDoom starts looking like the finest pixel art. The one that upscales weapons only is not that bad, but still kinda blurred, and the edges have so many jaggies you can cut cyberdemon in half with them.

It's kinda insane we have gazillions of different mods, quintillions of graphical "improvements", but in ~30 years no one bothered to just redraw original pixelated sprites by hand so they wouldn't clash with high resolutions so much.

>>8875726
>Smoothed textures
I just meant antialiased edges within the texture itself (i.e. with no jagged stair-stepping). not the same as linear filtering. basically it renders everything at a higher resolution.

>>8875718
NTA, but here you go.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1472575191

>>8875782
Danks, anon

>>8875782
Hey I remember this guy from when he was playing Ad Mortem

>>8875557
Last half of this was a slog but overall a fun wad. Might try UAC Ultra with the Metroid-inspired weapons pack like in the OP.

>>8875795
>>8875789
>>8874247
Yeah that's me
https://www.twitch.tv/jaesumgai/clip/EncouragingDifferentGiraffeFunRun-4k324eZzXou5f3R4?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
I also look forward to getting absolutely rekt when 400mins comes out too
and again proposing threevilution for a future SNS

Working on my Quake 2-level now. My setup is a bit temporary but it works until I get my desk.

>>8876040
3D was a mistake.

>>8876043
Yes.

>>8872871
>simple fun map
how is this related to quake?

>>8875175
You can skip the yellow key fight if you know it's coming pretty easily. There's no way to escape the red key pit if you fall in which seems especially weird since you can escape the blue key pit. I agree that more ammo might be good, in particular bullets since they're really useful at the end fight. Finally, the archvile seems completely pointless, I didn't even notice him the first time I was there. The chaingunners work since they could potentially stealth snipe you a bit, but you could really just remove the archvile and the map would be nearly the same.

what are some good spooky levels?

>>8876134
Dark Universe has been very spooky so far

[Cartoon running sounds.]

>>8876143
Looks like a Quake 2 jumpmod map.

>>8876260
>Q2jumpmod
I still don't get how ladder-jumps are possible

>>8876012
This is fun. Glad this wad is short though

>>8876040
…what program is this?
and how big is that display

>>8876303
GTKRadiant 1.6.6 on a 55" 4K screen.

If your fps doesn't have a modding community then it's shit.
Simple as.

>>8874920
>>8875175
>>8858135
played the two new maps + started a playthrough of ViolentBeetle's Hell Frontier
same folder: https://mega.nz/folder/sDAyVCjL#WREReSsTuvZWqNZYYZO3xg

>>8875315
>>8876124
Thanks guys, I changed the map accordingly and will post an update soon
>Had to idclip through the exit door
God I'm retarded

>>8872447
>>8872449
I loved the background sky in the Doom games. They always gave me this weird comfy feel. Even now, looking the pixel stars twinkling in beta sky3 takes me to faraway low-res world of 90s PC graphics. Fun times.

Bloodstain doesnt joke with the difficulty at all

>>8876428

What makes this place special to discuss fps that other places lack?
i don't get it.

>>8876460
Anonymity

>>8876460
Why do you hate other places?

Seriously, what the fuck. You told me Plutonia is good.

>>8876407
>"all these stealth balls"
>immediately gets hit by one
>shakes camera
I laughed hard at that. I hope you had as much fun playing my map as I did watching you play it (if not, does that make me a narcissist...?) And yeah, the Cyberdemon fight is supposed to play-out in a number of ways; I made sure it was possible to telestomp him myself, but there's enough ammo to just shoot him to death to if you want 100% kills; actually, the portal is also there to give HIM a support tool as well, because I love the Cyberdemon so god damn much.
Anyway, thank you for sharing your recording!
>t. Rancid Sam

>almost halftime and I still haven't finished the combat setup, let alone textured anything
ffffffffffuuuuu

>>8876489
Like, why do they even bother with other monsters?

>>8876489
>>8876495
And it feels like even more because sometimes the Casali bros place Arch-viles to keep resurrecting them from a safe place.

>>8876489
based plutonia,trying to give cultist filtration a run for its money

>>8876489
>those token 2 zombiemans on easy
I don't quite understand this, are all post-humously concieved people such insufferable assholes?

>>8876554
>are all post-humously concieved people such insufferable assholes?
. . .wat dafuq?

>>8876580
I think he's asking why Easy Mode keeps casting undead enemies in roles clearly meant for People of Life. He's just /pol/-baiting, ignore it.

Two and a half decades after release, people still manage to have the most retarded takes imaginable on Plutonia.

>>8876407
Thanks for playing. I also noticed you played Mister Pain returns at some point and I didn't see you post about it.
Hell Frontier is designed for pistol-start, but I also when I really want you to pistol-start, I add a death exit (So far it happens once)

What port are you using btw, I thought it's gzDoom because of freelook, but gzDoom doesn't play demos.

>>8876639
I'm probably hallucinating, but I read about Plutonia being peak Doom experience just a few weeks ago in these threads.

>>8876725
It is in the sense that it takes Doom 2's fantastic enemy roster, and uses them in creative ways that take advantage of their strengths better than Doom 2 ever did.

>>8876639
How would you rate this take?
I like Plutonia.

I'm putting the final touches on my /vr/ map submission and idk if I press the wrong button but I'm having a strange texture issue. In UDM it shows no issues, but when I load up the map a area that seems to be in it's own sector is see through. Does anyone have a suggestion? Sorry I only have net on my phone.

>>8876752

>>8876616
Nah I just keep mistaking Milo for either Dario & Stephano whenever I get max after having my shit kicked-in by a swarm of HWD's at every corner of Plutonia
>you will never have your brother be declared a soulless abomination by the Vatican

>>8876743
Yeah, putting 40 gunners in a tiny level is definitely creative.
I know that's not what you mean, but the way they place gunner at every single corner from the very first level is really something

>>8876760
>the Vatican condemned a Casali
They must fucking hate Heavies too lmaooo fucking casuals

>>8876752
>>8876758
Is that using a custom texture? It's probably not loading in the texture pack.

>>8876772
>the Vatican condemned a Casali
That's probably the greatest honor one can receive as a Doom level designer. Even if the reason had nothing to do with his Doom maps.

>>8876776
No its doom 2 standard rock. It's just a pathway I made and for whatever reason that section is transparent. I played it literally 15mins ago and it was fine. But I saved over it.

>>8876787
What was the actual reason? Did he take it up the bum or something lame like that, or was it something awesome like an act of terrorism?
I'm too lazy to Google, and you'll probably explain it cooler anyway.

>>8876796
>Milo's birth in 1977 caused minor controversy as he was conceived via artificial insemination using the preserved sperm of his deceased father Roberto Casali. Described as a "miracle baby" by some of the press, the action was at the time condemned as morally wrong by Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, since the Catholic church opposes artificial insemination.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Milo_Casali

>>8876803
Oh god so Milo is a literal Zombieman?
I was just joking about that.

>>8876758
It's an issue with the nodebuilder. Look at the area in DB and make sure all the vertices are on the grid.

>>8876818
I dont even know what I'm looking for. I've been using this stuff for just a few hours. If I upload the wad would you take a look at it?

>>8871423
>>8855685
For 400 Minutes of /vr/:
https://files.catbox.moe/5l8tn9.zip
Biskelion(v5) by Wolpertinger
Midi is Dial-up for Murder - Two Stars
I lied, this is the last update unless anyone finds any bugs, Ultimate Doom Builder's Automap mode is cool.

>>8876841
You're gonna need to upload it one way or another, might as well do it for feedback if it's in a mostly-presentable state. I just wouldn't tag the relevant posts until your final entry, and any intermediate posts should be fine if you're not spamming the fucking thread or whatever.
Even then, that's just my standards, and I'm a picky bitch.

Revisited some Q2 today, very rusty.
>>8873460
Thanks, this is great.
>>8876040
>>8876053
Looking good.

>>8876841
Not him, but he meant this DB tool

>>8876816
>>8876803
This somehow remind me of a more recent (last decade) case where a desperate woman in Israel became a surrogate (grand)mother for her own grandkid after her son went comatose and died after a car crash
>this shit is 2suomi4me to understand

>>8876143
I need that shotgun.

>>8876859
Reminder this mod is so superior to the base Q2 game its not even funny despite still being incomplete, I recommend running fan-maps with it just for the custom new quirky death animations and tweaks like muzzle flashes - all of the annoying flyer foes can crash-dive and actually kill you via explosion upon dying if you don't gib them, and IM fire rockets blindly while suffocating for example

>>8876864
It's in the skin pack I'm using, although there's no hands: https://combine-kegan.itch.io/separated-arms
I think it's also in Doom RL Arsenal with hands in the sprites if you don't want to add them yourself.

>>8876725
Peak official map pack Doom, perhaps.

>>8876886
Nice loop on that webm, even if it wasn't intentional.

>>8876249
kek every time

>>8876856
https://files.catbox.moe/ceahuc.wad

Ok thanks for you help I was able to fix the texture.

I've never made a level for doom before, I use project brutality and the real mini gun mod that uses a separate rifle ammo, so that may be why there's a abundance(?) of that ammo around. I have no idea how to scale fights n shit. Still learning via youtube these last day or two. Thanks for any help and consideration for the /vr/ wad

>>8875175
>>8871423
>>8855685
Map: Where Girls Learn to Pee On Command
https://files.catbox.moe/83lvd5.wad
Updated to version 2, added more ammo, added secrets, and fixed some dumb issues
Is the music too loud or too repetitive? And is this map name too much?

>>8876881
People who really like the grenades and inventory may be disappointed, but I think the changes are worth it and completely agree. I thought it would absolutely ruin the base campaign but I only ran into three issues.

>>8876407
I have now saw the whole playthrough of Hell Frontier. I always wondered if there's any downside to have floor above ceiling, and now I finally know. You are also the best at navigating MAP04. I swore off doing "puzzles" after this.

>>8871423
>>8855685
For 400 minutes of /vr/
https://files.catbox.moe/y7879p.zip
"Soul Survivor" by ASO3000
Music is "Every Breath you Take" by The Police, from freemidi.org

325 minutes so far, I suck at speedmapping and especially coming up with encounters. Tried to set a sky in UMAPINFO but I seem to be too dumb for it.

Tested only on Crispy, haven't played a single other map so far because of rl bullshit, so no idea how much too easy for you guys it is, pls no bully.

>>8876886
Stop making Star Wars mods and play Dark Forces

>>8876489
Hitscan is the ultimate casual filter.

>>8876897
Thanks!
>>8876940
I'll play it later

the fact there is no deathmatch starts in map 12 and map 23 tells you everything about Plutonia
>b-b-but they fixed in the new ports
no, it's shit

>>8876950
Were people still using iwads for deathmatch in 1996? Dwango5 was already out by then.

Has Valve ever said they based the TF2 redesign of the Heavy Weapons Guy off the Heavy Weapons Dude of Doom?

>>8876972
he's white, so no

>>8876914
>I thought it would absolutely ruin the base campaign but I only ran into three issues
What was the problem, do the Power Cubes don't stack anymore?

>2048vr has separate demso for both versions
Neat

>>8876996
Kikeodemon lol.

>>8877000
cacaodemon

Also what the fuck is wrong with Plutonia midi pack? Who thought putting some chill dungeon synth into this massacre was a good idea?

>>8876934
https://files.catbox.moe/j86szh.lmp
Complevel 9
Not my first attempt, I had to close the game and do something before this demo. Only got up to the Archviles on those demos.
The intro is an absolute bastard, way harder than the rest of the map. The Archvile fight on those super steep stairs is annoying, but can be gotten through with enough patience.
I really liked that secret, it's always cool when a secret gives you a different way to approach a fight rather than just loading you up with items. It also afforded me the rocket ammo to mow through that herd of pinkies at the end, that was fun.

>>8876934
And as for the sky, you're pointing toward a texture that doesn't exist in the wad.

>>8876990
There were two elevators near the start that didn't work, and the game would be stuck on low-grav after returning from that particular secret level. Aside from the occasional gib sound loop, it was smooth sailing through the rest of the levels.

>>8877035
**Aside from those and the occasional gib loop

bad tomato

>>8877042
>>8877045
>>8877047
fuck you

>>8877048
>>8877051
Beat you by 3 seconds, nerd

>>8877053
were it not for the shitty first captcha I got I would have ended you

>>8877042
>>8877045
>>8877047

longcaco is long

>>8876914
Just downloaded m64 and the tracers/casings aren't working. Everything else seems to be fine, I don't get it.

>>8877053
brother!

>>8877010
But what else they should've put? Avant-Prog? No Wave? Post-Hardcore?

>>8876864
That shotgun is from Stomper.

>>8876914
>>8877096
Where to get this mod?

>>8877156
It's Quake 2 Mission 64.
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/mission-64
>>8877096
Do they work if you put "set spawn_casings 1" and "set spawn_tracers 1" into the console?

>>8877195
no didnt work

>>8877213
That sucks. Not sure what else to recommend besides checking the autoconfig or a fresh install of Kmq2, sadly.

>>8877132
Starting from level 4 it's much more fitting. But first 3 are really strange.

>>8877195
>It's Quake 2 Mission 64.
thank

>>8871423
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13QnHTa3DXzk_ORQbVX5ILPwub6Kqok_M/view?usp=sharing

"Yass Queen, Flay!" by Washing Machine Enthusiasts
MIDI is "The Hellion / Electric Eye" by Judas Priest (MIDI conversion by anonymous)

No time remaining, so can only fix bugs. Difficulty levels implemented, but not much thought put into them. Par time is 2 minutes 45 seconds.

>>8877887
>Yass Queen, Flay!
fuck's sake washing machine

>>8877941
Not him, but we already have plenty of stupid names in this project with at least one more in the works. Prepare your anus for Metrosexual Testosterone Discombobulator.

>>8871423
>>8855685
For 400 minutes of /vr/
https://files.catbox.moe/v4wl1s.wad
"Blood Office" by anonymous
Music: The Jazz Machine by Stuart Rynn
Tested with DSDA

I used up all the time I had so the map pretty much ends once you get the blue key.