/vr/ - Retro Games

YOU WANT EXPRORE CAVE!?

>>8862913
no one actually made it that far though
normies gave up on the first tomb
i didn't get hella far until i was already a man decades later

>Press X to powder penis

>>8862913
Friendly hint: put Lara in the op-pic if you want replies.

brings back memories, I had the game before I got a memory card
the furthest I made it like that was to the offshore rig, the opera house level is forever burned in my brain

>>8864528
Why didn't you level skip back to where you left off?

Why is the lion throwing up cum?

>>8864538
I only learned about the level cheats later, and one of them blew me up

So if I want to play TR1–3, do I use OpenTomb or OpenLara? It looks like OpenLara is newer but I don't know if it fully supports all the games yet.
Yes I could also use DOSBox. Did that already.

>>8864634
Use a playstation

>>8864720
I don't have one :(

>>8862941
>no one actually made it that far though
This is literally the first level you stupid fucking zoomer.

>>8862913
bugs are out there killing tigers?

>>8864634
We really should write an OP with this information, since for some reason there is always a TR thread up (not that I'm complaining, Im just finishing 1 for the fist time myself thanks to you).
You have this choices to play the core games:
Emulate psx
Steam version with fix (ck community hub)
Gog version with fix
Every choice has ups and downs. Pc version must be played with joytokey (or you can buy the steam version and use a controller setting), also no crt filters so you need a separate program; psx version can't save everywhere so you need to use states to go beyond crystal capacity,

>>8862913
I genuinely think The Great Wall is the best level in the series.

TR2 had way too much hitscan enemy combat.

>>8862913
For me it's the 2 Tyrannosaurs hidden in Tomb Raider 2's Great Wall level

>>8864557
All the first game cheats did that in the sequel iirc.

>>8864909
Have you ever seen a tiger IRL outside a zoo? No? That's because of Chinese

>>8862941
I gave up when people started shooting at me and all I could do was flip around like an idiot to dodge.

>opera house
yeah, nah, fuck this game

>>8864634
My personal 2018 readme.

Tomb Raider 1
Install GOG release. (v1.0)
Run "TR_Multi-Patcher_v1.1" (not needed if using GOG v2.0)
Run "Tomb Raider Automated Fix 1.2.exe" to remove depedency on DOSBox

Tomb Raider 2
Install CD release.
Run "trupdate.exe".
Run the game once, then exit. (This seems to keep the sound intact after using Peixoto)
Install "Remastered_TR2_FMVs".
Run Peixoto's "Help.exe" to run the game in widescreen. Create a shortcut for ease of use.

Tomb Raider 2 Gold
Install CD release.
Run "tr2goldsetup.exe".
Run the game once, then exit. (This seems to keep the sound intact after using Peixoto)
Run Peixoto's "Help.exe" to run the game in widescreen. Create a shortcut for ease of use.

Tomb Raider 3
Install CD release.
Run "trupdate.exe".
Run the game once, then exit. (This seems to keep the sound intact after using Peixoto)
Install "Tomb_Raider_3_fmvs_by_Ronnie".
Run Peixoto's "Help.exe" to run the game in widescreen. Create a shortcut for ease of use.

Tomb Raider 3 Gold
Install CD release.
Run "trupdate.exe".
Make a copy of the installation directory.
Run Peixoto's "Help.exe" to run the game in widescreen. Sound will not work. Exit game.
Replace directory with the copied directory.
Run game, select highest available 4:3 resolution.
The game does not seem to work at all with Peixoto, but it's required to get access to higher resolutions.

Links
TR_Multi-Patcher_v1.1.exe
https://web.archive.org/web/20190807221022/http://bhemuhelp.co.nf/other/tomb.html

TombRaider-AutomatedFix-release
https://github.com/Carlmundo/TombRaider-AutomatedFix/releases/tag/release

TOMB RAIDER II MULTIPATCH (trupdate.exe) (Applies to 2, 3, 4)
- Windows PC
http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/tr2/fixes.html

tr2goldsetup
http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/vista/tr2g_demo.html

Remastered_TR2_FMVs
http://www.core-design.com/community_remasteredtr2fmvs.html

Tomb_Raider_3_fmvs_by_Ronnie
http://www.core-design.com/community_remasteredtr3fmvs.html

I forgot the Piexoto link. (He deleted his entire original post. Fuck forums.)
https://archive.is/20Leb
https://www.patreon.com/user?u=44312848
https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApHOE-Ru-xkGgZkOtWEHQyuRYq2NWQ?e=VD0U6w

>looking for man-made treasure PAST still-living secret dinosaurs
Bitch that's already more valuable than literally anything a human has ever made and stuck in a fucking crypt. Bring back evidence and sell the location of live, capturable dinosaurs thought extinct 65+ million years ago.

>>8866354
Lara doesn't have a dinosaur area at home, so she doesn't want it.

>>8863049
Kek

>>8862941
Yeah.. it was too clunky even back then.

Every time i played these games i used cheats. Some games are just better with infinite ammo , weapons and god mode; like the siphon filter series, Doom, or Turok.

>>8862913
>RARA CROFT
>TOMB RAIDER??? IRREGAR! SECRET PRORICE, TAKE HER AWAY

>>8865140
TR1 had too many melee enemies, while TR2 had more variety and was more balanced

>>8865876
Instead of playing like an idiot you should have tried rolling behind, or strafing around, or hiding around corners setting up ambushes

>>8867406
>Instead of playing like an idiot you should have tried rolling behind, or strafing around, or hiding around corners setting up ambushes
not with those shitty controls.

>>8868610
controls are flawless. Either learn them or stick to modern garbage with magnetic jumps

So, now that Swedish Embracer has taken over the rights to Tomb Raider, among other IPs, do you think there is a chance that the good old Lara will be back?

>>8869286
Considering that under SE the chances were around 0, I'd say possibilities significantly improved.

>>8869286
>eidos and CD are finally free of jew enix
Finally. That company treated them like trash. Anyone else is better.

Im finally playing through tomb raider 3 ,had it when i was a kid but just fucked around in it back then and used cheats.

Only on the second level and this shit is quite a bit harder than 1/2

>>8869690
>Only on the second level and this shit is quite a bit harder than 1/2
Yeah, no shit. I've recently breezed through TR 1 and 2 with little trouble, but holy shit, Temple Ruins are kicking my ass with all those "gotcha" traps. It's like the game is deliberately trying to fuck you over.
>yes, let's put a poisonous snake on the ledge you have to jump on, juuuuust outside the reach of your weapons, so that Lara gets poisoned 95% of the time and has to waste a medpack, unless you are REALLY lucky. Oh, you DON'T have a medpack? Well, sucks to be you.

>>8862941
>tomb raider II

>>8869601
So wait, the Embracer Group are for all intents and purposes a subsection of THQ Nordic. You know, those guys who recently resurrected a lot of old IPs with some really good results - like Spellforce or Desperados.
Am I allowed to be optimistic here?

>>8870001
I think Lara lovers can finally be optimistic after the last dark decade.

Finished TR1. overall a masterpiece. There are some bullshit like invincible Pierre that stalk us for 2-3 lvls, the idea is super good, but 90s tech wasn't there. Lol maybe even today is not feasible. Put him on a balcony to snipe us, on the ground ai breaks too much, it gets annoying. I dunno why they chose gorillas as enemies for the colossium, gorilla's doesn't scream Italy or caged animal for fights like lion/tiger.
Meat pyramid was like entering silent hill. Torso boss that oneshot you was super funny.
The last level was a nightmare, loved it, but my overall favorite I think is Folly.
After I finished the game I felt sad. It's a shame that classic TR is almost beyond suggestion for a normal gamer(jesus I'm over 30, I play retrogames on regular basis and played a real TR only now). We are all old dudes here, but I don't even know how many 25ish guys could muster tank controls, no camera, no checkpoints every 2s and grid based platforming. Lara is not like Mario or link, is not pick up and play in the slitest.

>>8862916
TOO BAD! HERE TIGER! FUCK U!

>>8862913
If I play this will i really become Chinese? I already have a small penis.

>gamefaqs and howlongtobeat saw tr1 is the same length as tr2
Am I going mad or is TR2 2-3x as long on a first run? Even if you use quicksaves in the PC versions of both games, the levels in 2 are so much more vast and grueling. You're not getting constantly fucked over like people say 3 is like, but each tr2 level is at least 90 minutes blind.

>>8870001
>Am I allowed to be optimistic here?
No, that isn't allowed. The modern dipshit zoomer audience won't appreciate the methodical exploration, low enemy density, or precise cliff-hanging acrobatics of Tomb Raider. So unless Embracer exclusively aims their new TR at people who enjoyed the first 5 games and tells zoomers and journos to go fucking fuck themselves, which is unlikely, it'll be a total piece of shit dumbed down for ADHD retards.

>>8871930
>Am I going mad or is TR2 2-3x as long on a first run?
It is. It's waaaaay longer than TR 1. Every game was getting longer and more complex than the previous one.

>>8865789
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to see a fucking loose tiger when I'm out and about. Either way, I'm sure it would kill me before I even see it.

>>8871996
>So unless Embracer exclusively aims their new TR at people who enjoyed the first 5 games
They kinda seem to like to fuck around with various niche, mid-tier games, not necessarily AAA spectacles, because they "see the potential in this market". Again, those are the people behind Desperados 3, Spellforce 3, Elex and Expeditions: Rome. I guess they are the opposite of Square Enix where 35 million copies of TR sold was a disaster.

There is something really weird going on with my TR 3 game.
Like, sometimes, the in-game cutscenes don't kick in. And this results in the next level being completely graphically fucked up. It's as if the game cannot load the cutscene properly or something. I wonder if that's my GOG copy or something with my PC.

>>8873213
I played gog version and the only problem here was fucked up HUD. Multipatch fixed it, maybe you should use it too.

>>8873213
I don't remember if it can happen to any cutscene, but I've had it happen the most on the transition from Nevada Desert to High Security Compound. I think you have to return to the main menu, reload the last save before the level transition, and DO NOT press any buttons during the cutscene.
Now, the bug that annoyed me the most (besides getting softlocked in Lud's Gate by saving at the wrong point) is the awful cacophany that plays during the water drain part of Madubu Gorge, and the spooky dark steamy floor room in RX Tech Mines. It sounds to me like a sound effect that's supposed to loop when complete instead plays numerous copies over itself every frame, which ends up drowning out most other sounds with how loud it is.

>>8870001
Being optimistic for products made after 2012 is the first step on the road to disappointment

U WAN NEW ENVIRONMENT?
FACK U HERE FOURTH SHIP LEVEL

>>8862913
i love how many games from that time have this graininess to the textures

So, I am replaying TR3 after god knows so many years and so far, my nostalgia gets a brutal reality check.
I always remembered India and Pacific being really fun (abd the Pacific outfit is the best outfit ever) and Nevada and London being pure cancer. Turns out I have the opposite impression now. India can kindly fuck off thanks to that fuckton of "gotcha" traps and confusing level layout, while Nevada is a pretty fun, relaxing area, full of interesting puzzles and platforming. Even the High Security Compound is interesting to play thanks to the gameplay switch. And London has some peak Batman noir atmosphere.
I haven't gotten to the Pacific yet, but how bad can it be?

>>8870001
They didn't cancel that mobile game. I wonder what will they do about that retarded idea of merging timelines.

>>8876571
I don't think they have a dog in this fight, so worst case scenario, not much will change.

>>8864551
This is a tiger.

>>8878459
Come to think of it, I would play the fuck out of TR 1-4 remakes. Here's to hoping that the new publisher actually hires Nicobass and allows him to finish his DoX remake. They really do love their remakes and remasters.

>>8874126
I mean, that's how TR games roll. You always have four levels of a given section. I guess the only exceptions are Venice and Nevada where you get three.
And TR4 is just Egypt all the way.

Asking for a bit of a spoonfeed. I heard Angel of Darkness got a fanpatch sometime... last decade? Was wondering if someone could point me towards it. No idea what it changes but I'm keen to give it another stab on Steam

>>8878550
>fanpatch
Well, the problem with fanpatches is that there is a metric fuckton of them, so you need to be more specific.
I am personally using this https://www.nexusmods.com/tombraidervi/mods/14.. So far, the game hasn't crashed/exploded/summoned a Cthulhu yet, so I write that one as a win.

>>8873875
The first two Pacific areas are really simple and half an hour combined, it's a weird contrast to the one hour behemoth maze Luds Gate.
The kajak level is a ride though.

>>8878729
In general I've noticed that the levels in London are not big, per se, they just contain an offensive amount of backtracking. 3/4rds of the Thames Wharf is just Lara running back and forth around one building.

Hey a new SteveOfWarr is out.

>>8878847
Literally who?

>>8878858
A guy who enjoys classic TR, I guess.

>>8878858
He does nonautsitic retrospectives of the TR games. The Angel of Darkness one gets hilarious.

>>8865630
It's such an epic easter egg and a fuck you to the player which really sets the tone of the adventure. Tomb Raider II doesn't fuck around.

>>8879223
I actually enjoy that the reward for killing the T-Rex is siccing another T-Rex at you. Is such a beautiful "fuck you".
>Tomb Raider II doesn't fuck around.
I dunno. TR 2 is sunshine and puppies compared to TR 3.

>>8862913
i cant play these games, the controls are just so awkward to me, and I've played shit like King's Field.

>>8878482
The tilesets were more varied in 1. You had four (five?) levels in the Folly biome, but each felt pretty different. It doesnt help that the ship comes after two other water+machinery levels in the oil rig.

>>8862941
>>8865876
>>8867262
>zoomers going full zoom

>>8870001
>THQ Nordic
didn't they do a Q&A on that other image board?

>>8870001
>Am I allowed to be optimistic here?
Nope.
You are just for another shitty, modern reboot.
Friendly reminder that for all intent and purpose, LAU is now considered "retro" and "oldschool" so whoever is saying about "bringing TR to its roots" is actually talking about LAU-style of gameplay.
Which I guess is still better than the shitfest under Squenix, but that's just a zoomer ersatz

>>8879439
Returning to LAU would be a great start.

>>8879439
Eh, LAU has the same issue as the nulara. Focus on action and lackluster exploration/climbing

>>8872293
I fucking hate the Squenix "era" with passion
>Buy bunch IPs for literal pocket change (less than 100 mil), not even interested in them that much, simply bought the company that owned them for their storage and distribution capacity
>Reboot bunch of those IPs for cheap, delivering abysmal games, put your slimy fingers into still ongoing IPs to fuck them over
>Except for Hitman, everything goes to shit
>And the only reason Hitman is fine is because the Danes literally paid weregild for themselves to be free of new Nip masters
>Tomb Raider is mismanaged into zoomer central, being the game that's aping fucking Uncharted, a game that was literally Murrica dudebro take on Tomb Raider
>They deliver three games that are utter shit, but pump enough money into marketing so they still sell like crazy
>Despite those gargantuant sales, they are still flagged as flops (which even after accounting marketing is untrue)
>Sit on the IPs for next five years, doing nothing
>Sell said IPs for three times the amount you've paid for them, while retaining the distribution and storage you were after in the original deal
I guess this is the kind of situation where there literally is no other word than "jewing".

>>8879439
>is actually talking about LAU-style of gameplay.
You know what? I'll take it. At least we'll start going in the right direction.

>>8879210
He actually seems to like TR 3. More than TR 2 too it seems. That's... unorthodox. But I can understand where he's coming from.

>>8879454
Hence my entire post

>>8879453
Would LAU and LAU-styled game be better than the clusterfuck that was nu-Lara? Sure. Temple of Osiris is the great example of it (fucking 2D gaiden game being better than the "mainline", imagine mismanaging an IP this hard)
Is LAU and LAU-style game by itself good or desirable? Not really. Underworld was, at least design-wise, a step in good direction, but that ship sailed long ago.
So the real question is not "Can we be optimistic" but "Will Nordic fuck us in the ass by catering to zoomers". Yes, I'm aware their goal is to be the wise guy and cater to OTHER demographics than AAA games for zoomers, but that doesn't mean they won't just make a budget nu-Raider. Or insist on keeping some sort of broad canon, which by itself will fuck the new game in the ass no matter what.
In other words - unless they cut any ties with nu-Lara in a direct and flat-out statement and then deliver a game that's at least up to Underworld standards, there is nothing to be happy about.

>>8879453
Legend I remember being kinda on rails cinematic shit. Anniversary I really liked though, need to replay it.

>>8879589
>Anniversary I really liked though
Ask me how I know you never played TR1
And I'm not even trying to insult you here, just observing a fact

>>8879597
Not him but I played both and still liked anni.

>>8879632

>>8878847
I actually wonder what his opinion on nu-Lara games is.

>>8879696
>Giving fuck about e-celebs
>Giving fuck about their opinions
... why?
No, serious question - why would you do that to yourself?

>>8879476
I thought the first one at least was decent. Never touched the others.

>>8879986
>I thought the first one at least was decent.
Here, grab my (You), but then proceed to the nearest suicide booth

good night kitty
:))))

>>8880402
This reminds me
>Be kid me
>Play TR3
>Bodies everywhere
>Mom comes in, makes a fuss about brutality in games, I get grounded for week
>Week later I can play again
>Cheat for weapons
>Use rocket launcher from that moment on
>Mom comes in
>"It's all just exploration, mom!"

Just finished the damned opera house. I stocked up on shotgun and uzi ammo like a fucking prepper and the next level took all weapons away.

>>8862941
>hella
fuck off

>>8881123
Haha.
You are going to adore TR3 then.

>>8869690
I'm on 3rd level and yeah all the traps that barely give you time to survive even when you know what to do coupled with scarce saves make that game way harder than 1/2. Hopefully there aren't ad many hitscanners as in TR2

>>8879476
Worst part is.
>make 2 lame "deus ex" games.
>people like them.

>>8881293
There isn't - there are only a few of them this time around, they are less godlike accurate and at this point you are given enough powerful weapons (Desert Eagle and this badass MP5) to just casually deal with them.
And IMO India is the hardest chapter by far with fuckton of "gotcha" traps. Once you get past that, the difficulty evens out, with Nevada being piss easy by comparison.

>>8881336
Eh, Human Revolution was fine. But it was VERY apparent that they've run out of story budget at some point, because after Montreal, the game starts falling apart. You can see that the story was supposed to be much bigger, but they had to trim it down something hardcore, so you start running into plot convieniances, story placeholders and Jensen reading ahead in the script. And then the game just fizzles out and dies.

>>8881123
The next level is good because it gives you tons of medpacks. If you play the game like a jew, you can save those for a long time.

>>8881273
TR3 is best played with the weapons cheat on. The exploration difficulty is nuts enough. I wish they gave you infinite torches, it's so pretty.

>>8881814
Eh, I've caught myself not really using weapons all that much anyway, outside of my trusty pistols. I guess TR3 is much less combat-heavy than TR2. And somehow I still can't find any ammo for any of the good weapons.

>>8881430
>Eh, Human Revolution was fine
>Rest of the post describes how it wasn't
Just let it go, anon. This level of cope is unhealthy

>>8881821
Define "good weapons", because there are exactly 3 in TR3 that don't suck: DEagle, rocket launcher and MP5. Everything else is dogshit.
Shotgun is a good stop-gap weapon, but good luck ever having sufficient ammo to it.

>>8881825
I mean, back in the day in order for HR to be "fine" it had to simply be better than Invisible War.

>>8881830
>DEagle, rocket launcher and MP5
Yeah, those.
I guess Uzis are also "fine enough". Shotgun never gets enough ammo to be really efficient and harpoon gun can fuck off. Although, it sucked in TR2 as well, so I have no idea why they brought it back for the sequel.

>>8881860
>I guess Uzis are also "fine enough"
Not really. Super-nerfed and the only way you can have them at all is playing Nevada-London order of things, or else you will never have them.
Harpoon gun is half decent if you do Pacific last. And friendly reminder it is one of the stronger guns out there, too. Each "salvo" is equal with single DEagle shot, which is a lot.

As for ammo rarity - welcome to the suck. That's just the gist of TR3, I guess. DEagle gets only any real ammo if you do Nevada first, since there is bunch of secrets later that provide it. And you still want to save at least 50 bullets for the final boss (or was it 25?). And there is like 15 rockets in the entire game, few of them always being lost no matter what due to Nevada, even if you go there first. Really makes you wonder why they even bothered with this weapon. Since even if you save up all the rockets, the only enemies you really want to use it are the Tinnos guards, who can can tank single rocket and you might as well be firing MP5 at them.
Speaking of which: that's the only gun that has both plentiful ammo and is reliably spread throughout the game (unlike DEagle, which barely shows in London and Pacific and lion share of rockets is in London, out of all places)

>>8882115
I have a feeling I'm gonna get royally fucked during the final boss fight. Because I am finishing London and all I have left is Pacific and Antarctica and I barely have any ammo for DEagle and MP5.

>>8882120
There is bunch of DEagle clips in Antarctica and each provides 10 ammo, so no sweat. You should get at least 150 rounds for Pacific (40-50) and Antarctica (rest), but I might be off by a single clip, so it might be actually 160. And even then, the lost city of Tinnos has exactly 50 rounds to DEagle to pick up, so you can rely on that for the boss battle.
Of course, this assumes you get ALL secrets, and especially the ones from Temple of Puna and Lost City

People keep going on and on about tr1-3 but nobody talks about 4. The contemporary talk about tlr says it was really good. Was it just forgotten by boomers because it didn't have a number? I recently learned there were FIVE ps1 tr1 games with Chronicles too, but I get why nobody talks about that.

>>8882297
>People keep going on and on about tr1-3 but nobody talks about 4.
Trust me, EVERYBODY remembers TRLR, most very fondly, but unlike TR2-TR3 that are pretty divisive in their own right and you can talk in circles about which is better and which is worse at nauseam, the general consensus about TRLR is "it's good". And that's it. It's a very solid entry, with a good story and there isn't much to argue here.
Although, to play the devil's advocate and actually start an argument, for me it's one of those games that starts off very strong and I love every second of it, and some 3/4rds into the game I want to kill myself, because it just keeps going. And going. And going. And keep in mind that unlike with TR1-3, which swapped locations every now and then, you are stuck in Egypt throughout the whole VERY long game, and at some point, the constant deserts and pyramids can get too repetitive.

>>8882371
There is also the factor of hub-like levels, which IS a divisive part of the game and something that adds to the fact how dragged out it feels.

>>8882371
i get that they wanted to give you more bang for your buck, but tr1 was the perfect length
i'm halfway through tr2 and it's pulling at my toenails
maybe i'm just a spoiled pirate, but 30+ hour adventure games tend to drag

>>8883106
>maybe i'm just a spoiled pirate, but 30+ hour adventure games tend to drag
Yeah, by comparison, TR 2 and 3 had about 16-20 levels each. TR 4 has about 35. That you visit multiple times.
>i'm halfway through tr2 and it's pulling at my toenails
Hoo, boy, you are in for a treat, because TR 3 is even longer.
Although, arguably it's a better paced game than TR 2, because every section is a seperate stand-alone mini-adventure, so it feels that you are actually progressing with the story, instead of bumbling around for half of the game like in TR 2.

>>8864528
>the opera house level is forever burned in my brain
Is this a bad time to tell you that when you enter the auditorium you can skip the rest of the level with a jump on the left-hand side?
https://tombraiders.net/stella/walks/TR2walk/details/operahouse5.html