/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ (Latest)
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461
Current release
https://mega.nz/file/erwV0IbC#LE6uNgNAXh8CkxNhZpFxY3cxMWrS6_eaO92ZdotUfho

=== NEWS ===
[04-22] Violent Rumble got updated

[04-20] Kex Quake's QC source got released, which includes DotM as well as the other expansions
https://github.com/id-Software/quake-rerelease-qc

[04-17] Doom 2 UV-Speed TAS completed in 9:42
https://youtu.be/MzuJCMV4sK8

[04-15] Reelism 2 v1.0 is released.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1217383#p1217383

[04-13] Anon shares a WIP Quake texture pack
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RWhHOpsiEmgzWeb6CQOunImcvdTD1J91/view?usp=sharing

[04-12] Arrival was added to the Unity port.
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1513913950957711365

[04-12] Modest Mapping 2 WAD finally officially released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/120097

[04-11] CountryCide, a prequel episode to TrenchFoot released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/trench-foot-wip/downloads/countrycide

[04-11] KMquake2 got a new update
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4160/new-kmq2-test-build-2022?page=1&scrollTo=31231

[04-09] Wheel of Time got a GOG re-release
https://www.gog.com/game/the_wheel_of_time

[04-07] DBP46: Monuments of Mars 2 is out
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2527/

[04-05] New nodebuilder called VigilantBSP gets its first release
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2537/

[04-03] Anon's H TC Slooter has a demo out!
https://buxomdev.itch.io/slooter

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

With a crazy motherfucker named Hitler
With the gang called Nazis with attitude
https://beta.wolf3d.net/games/840

Shit forgot old thread was old, reposting in new one:

>>8840747
Map08: Pretty cool overall, I really liked the interconnected layout and the blood-powered machinery.
Seeing the Imps' heads in the blood pool in the red hallway was hilarious.
What I didn't like was how doors were marked as key doors, yet were only able to be opened from one side, like pic related, but also the yellow door in the small courtyard before the demon sacrificer. If I can open them only from one side, why mark them on the other side in the first place? Also, lots of unpegged doortracks.

>>8840914
>>8840959
Reloading a 4.26 UAC Standard magazine into another firearm without authorization is a breach of the Volt End User License Agreement.

>>8841330
Hey Doomfriends, what's that gamemode called where a bunch of people try to complete a level and if you die you have to wait until someone else completes the level? I want to host a server for a few friends and play that mode.

>>8841502
Survival, just set the number of lives to 1.

>>8841510
Thanks, anon. I haven't played Doom in years and I'm looking to get back into it. Maybe I'll even make some content someday.

ALRIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S A GOOD FUCKING TIME TO SHOW US WHAT YOU'VE BEEN UP TO

>>8841136
Shoot for the stars, anon.
Or maybe at least the moon.

>>>>8840557
>even most 70's sci fi stuff
where's my groovy 1970s Doom WADs?

>>8841547
Been finishing another participant's map for a community project, added a room.

So this is what happens if one looses in the Colosseum. . .

>>8841756
good question, I can only think of Italo Doom.

Still no idea what's this about - not that I am doing anything besides delaying the inevitable. . .

>>8841330
Do iDtech 1, iDtech, and Build alllow for the making of multiplayer modes beyond Deathmach, CTF, Elimination, and skulltag? It would be interesting to see Doom1, Doom 2, Heretic, Hexen, Quake 1, Hexen 2, Duke 3D, Blood 1997, Shadow Warrior, NAM, Powerslave, and Redneck Rampage to get their versions of Odd man out, and Territories.

>>8841809
Can you repeat this but this time in English?

>>8841813
He prolly wants Amogus: old FPS edittion

>>8841823
There's already something like that with WhoDunnit for Doom 1 and 2

>>8841778
>>8841789
>Rune status: NIGGUR
Its about time. . .
Have I missed the 'other secret level' yet or not?

>>8841823
>Odd man out mode from the Marathon games getting modded into Doom1, Doom2, Heretic, Hexen, Quake 1, Hexen 2, and the Build Engine games
>Among Us
WAT

>>8841836
Let's go beat the Niggur :)

>>8841842
CORRECTION:
>Trouble In Terrorist Town - old FPS edittion

>>8841845
. . . ?¿?

>>8841854
Okay...

>>8841860
This is the QUMP 'secret level' all over again. . .

Hold on a sec, is this all a dream - just like with that Cerberon Plaguemaker map done by QuakeUlf?

>>8841867
I'm just going to have to give this thing infinite health and 10000% damage, aren't I?

>>8841876
. . .this can only get even crazier ;^\

>>8841894
That thing beside the PC, is that a C64 with the tape-drive attachement or something else?

>>8841905
No comment about the FIREBLU bedpillow, same deal with killing the door with a fire-axe. . .

>>8841905

>>8841913
I'm gonna spend some time here - there's too much shit to deal with

>>8841905
>rekkr poster
That makes me happy.

>>8841905
Man, I absolutely love everything about that picture

>>8841905
Fine, I'll distract myself from doom

>>8841332
>[04-20] Kex Quake's QC source got released, which includes DotM as well as the other expansions
>https://github.com/id-Software/quake-rerelease-qc
Anyone know why it was released under the GPL v2 instead of v3? Or BSD for that matter? I remember Carmack saying he wished he released Quake under a more permissive license - I'm surprised this release didn't honor his wishes

>>8841989
GPL 2.0 is so that it can be used for consoles,
Console brands are very skeptical when you add something with GPL 3.0 becuase it can basically give them an access to the console to hack it.

>>8841930
Keximus Maximus, I was wondering if that was a FamiCom next to an FDS drive at first, but the shape wasn't quite right for it. . .

>Exit already opened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM8YOBvq-jc

>>8842008
What map is that?

>>8842015
>>8842008
Wierd bug/feature report here again - staying in this exact spot provides the player with infinite health for some reason. , ,

>>8842024
Yeah, there's at least one health vial that had severe autism. It's been given some adderall for the next version of the map.

>>8842017
the final map of course

>>8842007
Thanks

>>8840747
Glad you enjoyed it, I was aiming for that Raven games look and also for Shadow of the Comet/Prisoner of Ice time/dimension travel themes. Door fighting is something I will definately avoid in future maps
Be sure to play the secret map after, its a lot of fun

>>8842034
>>8842031
Something strange happened - and all my saves got wiped after activating 3/4 of switches the Hapheastuses were guarding and making new one's was disabled - I'll try this level again after finally updating my QSS ;-\

>>8841547
AAAHHH I'M GONNA REPOOOOOST

>>8841547
I'm gonna repost my shit here too. I took a break from animating guns to go back and add brightmaps to the Vic Viper, most of the other weapons are gonna get the same treatment

>>8841547
going really slow lately, but atleast I have some ideas on what to do

https://youtu.be/UE4nOYc0RkA

>>8842140
>no LordBritish for RippleLaser
inspired by Salamander?

>>8842182
It takes on the Lord British colors and shape (kinda) for the ripple laser!
and yeah I took notes from Salamander and the first two Gradius games for the Vic Viper rifle

>>8841330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLY4TsZBExY&ab_channel=ThereIRuinedIt

>>8842156
How bizzare it feels that those guns can be so highly detailed and animated - but the rest of graphics must be such a blurry mess running at a choppy framerate, just to run on real Amiga hardware at all

>>8842129
You didn't happen to see anything print to console, did you? I still haven't figured out why some people had a crash there and it might be related.

>>8842185
SOVL/10
Do you remember that one comment from last year about a weapon from Contra4 which shot homing VicVipers by chance?
I was the anon who posted it, and now I have to ask - is it possible to create a weapon that fires projectiles that ALSO fire other projectiles?
Yes I saw that "Revenant launching Chaingunners" .webm just recently

>>8841756
Such a shame what they did to Malone in TSFP.

>>8842217
It should be more than possible. Hell I did something similar with the Sapphire Beam Bombs in GMOTA, along with the Heavy Macer, thinking about it.
I also pull some similar shit in Combined_Arms with the Blastmaster's Rockets, they leave those flames that home in on dudes, and the HALKEN Laser in Gaiden does the same thing

>>8842197
something about PlayerValues being invalid, I should've screencap it - now after getting the latest QSS version the savefiles appear on the list, but are unreadable
>I dislike the HL1 'round pixels'

>>8841770
>finishing another participant's map for a community project
Was it at least pretty well along, or are you pretty much filling-in a bare-bones layout?
>>8842147
>Green Armor on a 20% damage plate
>you can get the armor without taking damage if you time your steps correctly
Delightfully devilish, Seymour.
Also, cute detailing.

>>8839145
It's one of those things they added late in development that they didn't really need to in order to be more "modern" at the time, as well as realistic. Should've just doubled down on being old school like in their beta builds of the game and buffed BJ's default movement speed a little. That way, you're always fast, but can still slow down with the walk button (caps lock) to stay scoped in with your rifles like usual.

Doesn't really matter too much anyway since you can strafejump through the levels like a speeding bullet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGb21qNwYTg

>>8842238
>Also, cute detailing.
Thanks, trying my best.
Anyone has any idea why that zombieman despite being turned 360 away from the player gets awakened when you come up to the window? I noticed it happening only when you shoot during previous encounters and awaken other monsters in vicinity - he doesnt get awakened until you come up to the window, and if you dont shoot at all he stands still - both the zombieman and the imp are set to "ambush players"

New record by 2 seconds. This one was a lot harder since the old ones were relatively optimized.

>>8841963

>>8841547
Sever your leg, please.

>>8842254
"Ambush players" just makes them delay their patrol until they have line-of-sight on the player. Normally, when you shoot/punch/chainsaw (attack), enemies who can hear it will immediately start wandering around looking for the player. With "Ambush players", after hearing the player attack, monsters still wait until they have line-of-sight (even if you're not IN direct sight) to become active.

>>8842272
What the fuck.
What's the color of the crappy toy that comes with the kid's meal?

>>8842254
>>8842273
This, if you want them to be truly deaf you need to surround them with two layers of "block sound" lines.
>>8842278
We got brown ones this week, next week we'll have the blue ones again. we might have a paper crown or two in some corner of the kitchen somewhere, but we've been told not to give those out any more.

>>8842273
Is this what 'ambush' means? I just started making levels for GZdoom and in vanilla you'd make mobs 'deaf' so they ignore gunshots and only activate if you're seen.

So with ambush, they activate as soon as you're within line of sight, but without having to actually see you?

>>8842284
Truly blessed. Now I want to see other Homestar Runner food items.

>>8842286
That's the plan.
I have so many sprites to make.

>>8841547
Putting final touches on my first map, which /vr/ has been giving me feedback on for about a week now.
I went through and tried to smooth-out textures as much as possible, and per another anon's advice I actually did a 100% (well 99.9% but I think I just missed a Health/Armor Bonus somewhere) completion run of my map and recorded it to upload to Youtube.
I'm eager to move on to my next map; I'm thinking of making an MBF21 map so I can use friendlies.

>>8842285
Ambush is deaf, as far as I'm aware. Enemies will ignore gunshots with "dead"/"ambush", but only until they have line-of-sight on you (i.e. if they wanted to, they could shoot you from where they were standing, albeit they may have to turn around to see you.)
I actually didn't think of >>8842284's idea of surrounding a unit with "block sound" lines to make it truly deaf; I usually do that at the entrances/exits to the room with the deaf person in it (or the room with windows or w/e I'm going for there.)

>>8841547
i've been working on this map for too long

>>8843081
Reminds me of that image with the thrown hammer captured in air

not sure if news but we would probably see unreal 227j in our lifetimes
https://www.oldunreal.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=100230&sid=7e93dbb46e6bd7fba91d780d5e0fba5a#p100230

>>8841332
>[04-22] Violent Rumble got updated
new maps?

>>8842230
>>I dislike the HL1 'round pixels'
r_particles 2

>>8843091

>>8841963
>mega pair

You guys do boomer shooters like Ion Fury and Dusk too? Or not because they're not real /vr/ material?

>>8843113
No, just various fixes and adjustments up for testing, but I am working on fixing and expanding the secret level at the moment. I wouldn't have put that in the news post, honestly.

Speaking of maps though, would anyone be interested in doing another round of them in the coming months? I think there were several people interested in doing techbases that transition into more eldritch environments before we voted on not having a theme at all. Could be interesting.

>>8843173
I could try my hand at Quake mapping again, I doodled a bit in trenchbroom when the project first started making the rounds, but never finished a map.

>>8843141
Ion Fury is good and thread relevant by being a build game. Dusk is okay and not retro.

>>8843132

>>8843173
yeah, I'd like to contribute one since I couldn't before because my job was killing me but thank god I was fired

>>8842238
>Was it at least pretty well along, or are you pretty much filling-in a bare-bones layout?
Yeah, it was mostly done, but original author didn't have time to finish it.

what map making program do i use on linux?
I've tried slade but i struggled with a few things in it. I might be retarded but I couldnt find any good documentation on it and it lacked few basic features like floor height gradient and inserting a vertex in the middle of a line, can any anons help out?

>>8843367
Ultimate Doom Builder compiled on linux just fine for me following the instructions on this page:
https://github.com/jewalky/UltimateDoomBuilder

>>8843378
I didnt know you could compile it on linux, here i was trying to run doom builder 2 on wine like a dumbass. ill give it a shot once im back on my desktop, thanks.

>>8843173
>Speaking of maps though, would anyone be interested in doing another round of them in the coming months
I wanted to contribute last year but didn't have the time. I'd be happy to try, but it would be my first quake map and my schedule is unpredictable so i wouldn't want to be a dependency in part of a coherent progression.

Can I get a QRD on Joe-Ilya?

>>8843653
very involved with doomer boards' projects, so his maps come up a lot
also a very mediocre mapper, so you get mediocre maps a lot
also a brony or furry or something
I think he's getting better but I don't keep close tabs on the forum, completely inoffensive compared to that quake shitposter at least

>>8842273
>>8842284
Thanks, that zombieman doesnt serve any gameplay or balance purpose and stands there for ambient, so I guess I'll just sound block the whole computer room and reroute the air duct to the main encounter area

>>8843694
If you want him to not attack the player, you could try to (non-obviously) stick your Zombieman in a sidedef. I just tested against pic related with PrBoom+ and the Zombieman will make an alert noise (so I think he does become alert) but he won't turn around or shoot if I stand in front of him—even if I shoot him first. This does let you kill him of course; if you're using GZDoom and want an unkillable enemy "decoration", I think the "Dormant" flag does just that.

>>8843718
Here I set the height of the ground to 25 units and threw-on a computer texture to give you an idea of the "non-obvious" trapping I mentioned.

>>8843725
Nah, I stick to boom/mbf21 most of the time
That trick could be useful, not in this scenario but somewhere else maybe - a kind of turret enemy now that I think of it

Dooming with the boys

>>8843378
how do i compile this on arch?

>>8841330
Straight outta Plutonia? More like fresh out of Andy Sixx's pink puckered asshole:

Poop Physics:
https://youtu.be/I2X6vcwzJyY

Weapon Animation Progress:
https://youtu.be/jJkCzTDSw5c

Outdated Trailer:
https://youtu.be/wtXNRIcZR-8

>>8843940
holy fuck. im making the golden kek face irl at this.

>>8843940
>almost entire channel filled with videos about some guy's feces
based 4chan autism

>>8843910
>needing more than the Debian instructions to base shit on
Are you sure you're advanced enough to be using Arch?

Hey matador, I don't know if you're still around but I think you can get away with making an HFFM article. Pic related.

>gzdoom doesnt detect the Steam Deck's controls
I'm sure theres a way to do some hacker linux shit to get it to work but I'm retarded

>>8843856
Heh. Anyway, what's the wad name please? If it's Auger;Zenith then what's the gameplay mod name?

>>8842140
That looks spectacular. Good work

>>8844146
The WAD is Auger Zenith, the gameplay mod is Combined Arms

>>8844156
This wad's name still makes me laugh. WTF do augers have to do with a cyberpunk neon future? "Dig a post hole to the overhead sun!"

>>8844214
does it have any gurren lagann references?

>>8844156
Thanks.

yknow i thought i had a pretty bad memory but doom 2 the way we remember it showed me that it could always be worse

this is supposed to be industrial zone

>>8844234
The city levels are bad but they're still better than a lot of the trash from shores of hell

>>8844234
>doom 2 the way we remember it
Watching decino play through the first one was a good laugh
>cyberdemon in ep1
>elevatorpocalypse

>>8844247
Everything after the first episode is bad. It's insane how good the core gameplay alone was, even with almost no good levels to showcase it, it still was enough for decades of amazing mods.

>>8844247
Fuck off, the best level of Doom 2 is about as good as an average Doom 1 level.

>>8844263
I hope he plays the second one. I still haven't managed to make him play my map.

>>8841547
It's not saturday here but I've been working on rendering weapon sprites for the Bloodborne mod.

https://youtu.be/UF8AqtQT-Jw

>>8844037
I am not, thats why im asking for help

>>8844234
Interesting how more “grounded” and less colorful the levels became after Doom 1.

Recently beat Hexen 2. It wasn't as good as I had hoped.

Just beat Shadow Warrior and it's add on paks. It's amazing.

Wondering what else to play. Is Redneck Rampage any good? Or NAM? how come Tekwar isn't supported in eduke32/raze?

>>8844247
E2 rulz
i hope you get raped

>>8843940
Watching the Andy Sixx creamy and dreamy steamy memey flourish over the last decade has been strangely encouraging. Like seeing your coprophilic nephew get a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife. And you ask yourself, well, "How did he get here?"

>>8844156
LMAO I think it's supposed to be "Augur", which I didn't catch until your post.

>>8844234
soul. looks surreal without trying to be, which is the best kind of surreal.

>>8844352
>Redneck Rampage
>NAM
>Tekwar
RR’s better than the other two by a landslide, and even then it has some polarizing level design choices.
How much you hate/enjoy the first level will be indicative of how you’ll enjoy the rest.

>>8844393
That's a bit harsh, isn't it?

>>8844307
Oh shit, I'm looking through your channel it's pretty fucking neat what you've been working on. I'm loving the Bloodborne mechanics implementations. Keep up the good work!

Map09: Beautiful map, great layout. I don't enjoy slaughter gameplay, so the cathedral did nothing for me but to annoy, despite looking terrific.

Game with psionic macaques doesn't have any right to be so engaging. Doom makes use of synthesized music, has there been any wads imploring atmospheric electronic pieces with amen breaks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcXnY2WP8IU

I need a list of WADs besides Zrift made in mind with the players jumping ability enabled

>trying to get better at Doom
>load up LunchLunch's 10x10
>can't even get past Map05

this doesn't bode well

>>8844856
My favourite track from the game.

>no idea why I didn't ask this when VR was still in testing phase:
Are the Death Brigade knights, bazooka Grunts, Pyromaniacs and plasmagun Enforcers from Qoth included into this mods entity list?

>>8844939r
I'll be releasing demos alongside Release Candidate 4 that players can use for walkthroughs. The last two fights in MAP05 are some of the trickiest in the WAD. Here's the demo for MAP05, hopefully it will aid you-
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FHwNZB7u0AOqZ74ioUBv1i8dM_YzkRPr/view?usp=sharing

>>8845048
Hey anon, who were your biggest inspirations for your mapping? Just curious

>>8845048
Actually I just made it through Map05 finally, had to take a break I guess. Glad to know that I made it through one of the trickier ones though, goddamn that was intense.

I will probably need those demos though. These maps look really good for being confined to the texture limit.

>>8845048
Why are you calling me out for not using translucency? ಥ_ಥ
I hate how "cold" everything looks with it turned on.

>>8845052
Killer5 (10x10 MAP07 is a tribute to him)
Insane Gazebo (10x10 MAP09 is a tribute to old Sunder)
40oz (basically my mentor with all the feedback and advice he's given me)
Casalis
Ribbiks
And to a lesser extent Scotty, bemused, and Joshy

>>8845076
A lot of MAP07's aesthetics rely on translucent midtextures to nail the look of Killer5's Event Horizon. You'll be missing out on that and even a secret switch if you have translucency off
>>8845067
The only map I have left to make a demo of is MAP07 then I can put them out. It's been giving me a bit of trouble but I've only recorded a dozen attempts so far. It's daunting to do saveless, if you do all the secret fights it's the hardest map in the WAD, besides maybe MAP10.
You should probably use saves for MAP07-MAP10 unless you're a DOOM god.

Here is a tileset i would love to see in Q2 along with the alien trilogy ones https://www.moddb.com/mods/dragon-sector-the-remake/news/dragon-sector-the-remake-v040-released

but in case, i think i am going to release a scaled pack of my texture pack

>>8845159
forgot pic

>>8845129
>You should probably use saves for MAP07-MAP10 unless you're a DOOM god

kek. I'm using saves for every map. Could do the first two or three saveless if I tried but nothing beyond that, not even gonna bother.

>>8845081
With taste like that, no wonder your maps are so based

man, RTCW flip flops between being great and being trash so often
>great fast paced CQC level
>awful janky fail-if-you're-seen stealth level
>cool quasi tactical shooter base assault
>escort mission
>clearing houses in a ruined city
>time limited NPC wrangling

>>8845212
>>time limited NPC wrangling
That one I don't actually remember.

>>8845162
>those fuckers have unused animations for a running hammer slam, jumping attacks and ducking+spike-uppercut combo
FUCK YOU id FOR RUSHING THE DEV CYCE FOR A HOLLIDAY RELEASE

>>8841989
the GPLv3 is far more extreme in its protections,which can fit for some projects,but is not great for this as >>8842007 said.
>>8844119
enable controller support in GZdoom and add it to steam.

>>8845239
the one I was referring to is saving a scientist whose being shot at in the ruined city level
It's really not that bad but it's annoying because in the same level you're protecting a tank and when you think you're off doing your own thing it slaps you with an insta-fail

>>8845212
I never played RTCW, but I spent a good portion of the 2000's playing ET and damn I miss it so much.

>Finally managed to organize my mod folder (Again)
>Still procrastinating on tackling the map folder to check which one has custom weapons/enemies and delete them
>not sure if weapon/enemy replacers will work on those kind of maps like eviternity,hence the reason for deleting those
ehh,someday

>>8845254
damn, that would have been cool as fuck.

>>8845212
>Downloaded it a few days ago
>start in Death incarnate,why not?
>Snipers 1-2 tap me
>Why the fuck are the levels so dark? are my eyes that fucked up?
>latex bitches killed me at least 20+ times
>try going upstairs,later bitch camp kills me,i cant shoot back
>enemies are absurdly tanky in the last levels for no good reason
>finally cleared it thanks to the save scumming
>The final boss was too fucking easy compared to the rest of the game
My favorite map was the chateau,just a big house full of enemies and CQC

>>8841547
I'm making this, whatever.

>>8842138
I am finally done with the map and encounters. All that's left is to set up checkpoints and the end level trigger.
Also, I need to come up with a name for my level. It's half dungeon half underground cave using the aztec textures from TSE. I'm terrible with names so any suggestions are appreciated.

>>8845443
>The Fiends in the Walls

>>8845443
Cholula
Teopanzolco
Xochicalco

>>8845443
>>8845449
>Xochicalco
Xochi Mama

>>8845386
I don't mind the snipers though it's funny how regular guys have to hit you with a full magazine or two but snipers get you in 2 shots
I didn't really get what they were going for w/ the Latex Ninjas. Like cool they're acrobatic but attack with guns, but ???? there's no fun way of fighting them aside from popping in and out of cover and hoping for the best. You don't get high tier guns until later either so the best you have it sniper or nades.
>tanky
I'm just at that part now. The regular guys were fun because you could tap them on the head and get them, but now it's just unloading your guns at them and spamming explosives that feel like dogshit to use.

The weapons are kind of trash too. I get that they have effective ranges, but it's not like you can accurately get headshots at medium range with FG42 or accurately hit more than a few shots with SMGs. Then using the sniper scope is nails on a chalkboard.

Still breddy good as far as modern-style FPS campaigns go, but meh

>>8845443
Aztec Azimuth
Tezca's Torment
Lost Temples of [aztec sounding name]

>>8845396
looks neat, especially that courtyard area

>>8845475
the special black ops guys are another pain on the last level,they DONT (Or rarely) flinch even after i unload my entire magazine on them,forced to take damage between encounters

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME!! Tonight we're playing through Going Down with Malefactors. Connect with Zandronum and let's get to the bottom of this (huehuehue)!
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

>>8845449
>>8845483
I think I'll go with Lost Temple of Teopanzolco. Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

>>8843676
Post your maps

Shadow Warrior's shotgun is a cool idea but it just feels so wimpy

>>8844214
could be a typo of augur, or could be a reference to digging down to hell, albeit metaphorically, and a direct contrast to zenith

>>8845715
That was clearly the intent, and not an altogether bad metaphor for a dystopia.
Even without being mis-spelled that works.

>>8845736
well it's not misspelled if it's referring to digging, auger is a digging tool, augur is a sign of something to come or a roman era diviner

And there is a reason of why i stopped shilling Q2XP a while ago
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/news/q2xp-1270-features-preview
the guy is a huge faggot, and Q1 and Q2 weren't made with normalmaps.

worse is that his code is literally stolen off BerserkerQ2 by the looks of it.

>>8845523
Server's up again.
I guess I have a sixth sense for when shit goes wrong.

>>8845695
you're right clicking and then shooting right? the 4 shots is breddygud

>>8845775
>His code is primarily stolen off of Berserker Q2
How do you know that's the main dev stole it from?

>SNS top of Doomseeker server list
you did it bros

>>8845842
Been happening fairly consistently now.
We never anticipated getting this big, we thought we'd remain small sessions with a few regular /vr/os. Here we are now. It's almost frightening.

>>8845475
The sniper rifles like the FG-42 and Mauser become immensely more fun to use when you learn you can hold down CAPS LOCK to stay scoped in while moving. I'm sure every new player gets frustrated by how you unscope if you move more than the length of a gnats dick at default speed.

>>8845284
lol I remember that. You're feeling all victorious for saving the scientist, then all of the sudden the music changes and you're like, "Oh shit, forgot about tank dude". By then, it's too late.
>I'M UNDER ATTACK! THEY HAVE ANTI-TANK WEAPONS, HURRY!
>I CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS, MOOOVE!
>*nightmarish death scream*
The dudes protecting the scientist should've explicitly told you to go back to the tank.

>>8845493
That's where you gotta use your new weapons like the Venom or Flamethrower. The thought of trying to kill those penultimate level paratroopers and elites with an mp40 or FG-42 makes me want to vomit.

>>8845875
you mean crouching+scoping?

>>8845937
>venom
didn't found enough ammo
>flamethrower
they pump an entire fg42 clip in me before they start burning,glad I am done with that shit

>>8845950
That works too, but your aim bounces around while crouching. Holding down caps lock while moving lets you walk rather than move at default speed. Helps with platforming and lets you stay scoped.
>>8845954
Flamethrower doesn't do direct damage. You're meant to tick them with a puff or two of flames, and then break line of sight while they burn to deaths. Works great on those torso electrical monsters too.

>>8845963
maybe I shouldn't quicksave below 20 health,but I dislike redoing the level

>>8845982
I can relate to that.
Another tip if you ever replay it and find yourself in a tough situation is to abuse the lean function. You can't shoot while leaning (a deliberate design choice to force the player to run and gun), but you also can't be seen by the enemy AI. You can get a lay of the land before re-emerging from cover, so it really helps with those bullshit frustrating encounters. Shooting an enemy first and getting the drop on them increases your odds of hitstunning them and sending them into a staggering animation, which is really helpful in that level considering how artificially bullet spongey they are.

>had to go through my map and manually change all the models, sounds, etc. because I messed up the order of folders in my project directory
Pro tip: if you're going to make maps for serious sam make sure to extract the SE1_00.gro file directly into the game's install directory. Don't put it in another folder like I did.

i need suggestions for a enemy replacer WAD (Doom) the more bullshit the enemies the better so I can pair it up with a overpowered weaponset

No colourful hell please

>>8846080
also add run for it for extra challenge.

>>8846087
>keys jumping into bottomless pits
NOPE,I am curious if corruption cards can affect these things however

nice and short

>>8846080
Legion of Bones on highest difficulty
Not overly hard but every enemy respawns once

>>8846112

>>8845695
switch to the quadshot and its so much better.

>>8846137
>Pic

INFIDEL!

>>8846120
Legion of Boners haha

>>8845875
Yeh I knew about those (Though didn't think of a difference b/w crouch and walk). The recoil, especially for the Mauser is hard on the eyes though
Maybe bigger blood hit effects would give it better feedback on if you're making good hits, idk.
Double shotting far-off enemies with the Chaingun in Doom is unironically more fun than RTCW's gunplay.
>>8845937
Yeah the new weapons helped. Even finishing them with the FG-42 to save special ammo was nice. DESU the endgame enemies just make me feel like I should play a shooter that does them better like Quake/Doom/Unreal
>>8845954 >>8845963
Flamethrowing lads around corners feels pretty gud as long as the hit detection works

>Bratwurst is good
>kriegsland enemies are meh
>Wolfenstein X will fuck your shit up if you try using it on a doom mapset

>>8846231
I like Kriegsland Enemies. They have fire deaths.

>>8845828
because bersQ2 is still in development til this day, and q2xp discord is a shitshow where kirk acts like a dick towards everyone who doesn't agree with him.
he is graf with the altismo on high.

>>8846137
>>8846112
>>8845523
Aw I missed Going Down today... rip me

>>8846360
outplayed

>>8846360
>>8846382
It's weird seeing vanilla RTCW gameplay vids after all these years and not it being glitched out of it's mind.

>>8844997
No, but I can take a look at those, if there's QC for them out there. Quoth is quite notorious for being closed-source.

>>8846382
>nope.webm
I love this game.

>>8846389
>>8846396
sry that these are pretty late oldskool

>>8846382
I love how he pretends not to notice you at 0:20 and then *WA-BAM* ropes a rocket into the door.

>>8846137
me on the left

>>8846472
touch grass babby

>>8846551
thats not me

>>8846638
babby here, it actually was me

>>8846674
no it wasn't

>>8846298
Huh, what? But I thought BersQ2 wasn't in development for ages now? Or Berseker restarted development recently?

Why did dumptruck get cancelled? His Trenchbroom tutorials are absurdly good.

>>8845386
>start game on hard
>it's hard
Wooooww
Stick to medium or easy.

>>8845212
>>8845284
>>8845896
The only one out of those that is even remotely bs is the forest with the "fail if seen" thing. Even that is manageable as long as you juggle one or two hard saves along with your quicksave so you don't have your only save in a spot where the enemy has already seen you and is about to trigger the alarm or fire.

Otherwise the level is completely fine and a nice non-standard level to break up the pace. Even if a level in RTCW puts you out of your comfort zone a bit, the levels are usually over fairly fast so it doesn't get too exhausting.
The ruined church can be pretty exhausting because it runs for pretty long and those leather-clad elite guards will drop you very fast. But why are you playing on hard mode as the first playthrough difficulty anyway...

>oh nooo I would have to actually pay attention to events in the gameee
It's people like you why modern games are so hand holdy and retard-proofed.
Even back when I was a lot younger I didn't have a problem with the tank escort. The fact that you have to label a sequence that lasts ~10 seconds as "time limited npc wrangling" just boggles my mind.

>>8846360
So you have him in a spot where you can shoot at him while he's unable to shoot back but rush in to get shot? LOL

>>8846360
wtf? is this dude just made out of fucking steel?

https://kebby-quake.itch.io/block-quake

>>8846806
He had the audacity to suggest maybe a videogame forum about making maps for a 25 year old videogame shouldn't discuss politics like a conflict in Ukraine.

Some Ukrainian is on there venting and ranting and pushing propaganda 24/7 and I think Dumptruck muted him and all the sois went "oh my heckin science you chud you can't banerino him bigot!!!"

>>8843141
I post about Ion Fury a bunch, even if it's "throwback shooter", it feels incredibly faithful to the tone and quality of the classic Build Engine fps trio even though it seems to benefit from some modern things. It could've gone a bit bolder in terms of it's tone or had some more pulp-y vibes in it but even as is, it's a very solid shooter.

Stuff like Nightmare Reaper gives me very uneasy feeling that someone's just cashing in on the throwback fps trend.

Haven't played Dusk but I believe I'll end up playing that one too before long.

>>8846808
>But why are you playing on hard mode as the first playthrough difficulty anyway...
This, I'll never understand why people do this and then complain about the game being frustrating or artificially difficult. Hard mode is literally meant to be artificially difficult for veterans of the game who want a challenge.

>>8846828
most of the time normal is designed so that even dumbfuck playtesters who save with 1hp and no ammo can beat the game. it's for people who bought the game based on cover art and a TV ad. there's maybe half a dozen games that are actually hard on hard, but usually "hard" means "pick this if you've played an FPS before".

>>8846828
Especially when it comes to older games. With modern games (or ps3 / xbox 360 era games) it can be sometimes hard to discern whether hard is just renamed normal mode but when you go play older games, hard is usually hard.

RTCW can be pretty brutal but the maps are as said, pretty short a lot of the time so they don't end up being really grueling.

Oh, and one more thing needs to be said of RTCW : I love how the enemies move a lot of the time like bots in a multiplayer game, but a bit more atmosphere-friendly. Aka, you see them strafing, even jumping around sometimes, it's kind of amusing.

>>8846842
I avoid all of that by playing a game multiple times, each time on a higher difficulty until I beat it on the hardest. I've never been someone who only plays a game once and never returns to it, so I guess I don't fret about it being too easy on a first playthrough.
>>8846846
I love Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I've beaten it at least a dozen times. Each time I replay it, I like to mess with the AI and see what kind of weird things I can get them to do. Sometimes I turn on /notarget and /god and try to get them to chase me all over the map or see which places they'll flat out stop chasing me.

>>8846842
You're clearly new to old fps games in general, it seems. Normal in those games (like Half Life, Blood 2) is normal, and "Hard" mean enemies will have inflated hp and damage.

>it's for people who bought the game based on cover art and a TV ad
You're acting like it's some kind of a bad thing. That's how games get sold, turn profit and potentially get sequels etc.

It's also funny how you're talking about "dumbfuck playtesters" while bitching about RTCW being too difficult on hard lol.

>>8846846
Most old fps games are also easy on hard difficulty though, with few exceptions like Blood and Shadow Warrior

Hell 3 Pay when?

>>8846856
>Each time I replay it, I like to mess with the AI and see what kind of weird things I can get them to do

My nigga. I used to do that with Half Life 1, I would try to set the NPCs to fight each other and I loved situations where marines would fight monsters / security guards and try to observe the action by dying to a good spot and then watching the marines and barneys / monsters duke it out. Even better in Opposing Force where you have your squad of marines and you can set up against the Black Ops troops.

>try to get them to chase me all over the map or see which places they'll flat out stop chasing me
IIRC Kingpin : Life of Crime had really really good NPC A.I in regards to this. Like they would be able to go on narrow high ledges etc that would stop most games' NPCs dead in their tracks.

>>8846858
I don't think the guy you're replying to was bitching about Return. Hell, you even replied to me in your big post as being one of the people responsible for modern gaming when I just trying to sympathize with his first playthrough frustrations. I love RTCW man, it's one of my favorite FPS games actually lol.

>>8846824
Wait, what the fuck, I thought he'd at least have said something remotely dog whistley, called someone a tranny, or really anything like... genuinely offensive. It's refreshing to hear that he's not a racist transphobic chud but also disappointing to see that the Quake community is this thin-skinned.

>>8846858
>old fps <...> Half Life, Blood 2
???
anyway, HL is fine on hard and Blood 2 is broken all-round, as is Shogo.
Blood, Descent, Kingpin are proper-hard. most everything else is fine on hard on first run.
RTCW is fine on hard, but ubersoldiers (also shield zombies) require some anti-fun tactics.
of the later games, Hard Reset is just about the only one that I started on hard and had to restart on easier mode.

>>8846868
I can get them to chase me in the CO-OP mod because the AI is all set to be like that (more arcadey and aggressive), so it's funny to see what lengths they'll go to in order to try and get me.
>I used to do that with Half Life 1, I would try to set the NPCs to fight each other
I can get the two UberSoldats in the Unhallowed Grounds level to fight each other on command and then watch them duke it out.

>>8846869
Alright, my bad dude.
But I personally dislike when people try to call everything "bull shit" as a gut reaction instead of growing as a gamer.

>>8846870
>called someone a tranny, or really anything like... genuinely offensive
>disappointing to see that the Quake community is this thin-skinned.
The irony in this post holy shit

>>8846827
>Stuff like Nightmare Reaper gives me very uneasy feeling that someone's just cashing in on the throwback fps trend.
NR at least has the other throwback minigames, so there's more than just "pixelly FPS". I wish they'd do some optimisation though, other Unreal Engine shit doesn't chug nearly as bad. Also it actually left Early Access, unlike half the cashin games.

>>8846876
>Shield zombies
Go up to their face to aggro them to attack, unload MP-40 in their face while backing out.

>ubersoldiers
For the most part they're fine, they're meant to be the scary big enemy so them being hard makes every sense. What is a *bit* bs is that their venom gun (even if it's a different model they drop venom gun ammo) has no wind-up like yours does so when you peek from behind a corner they can almost instantly zap you.

>>8846876
>shield zombies
Those bothered me until I learned it's not about where you shoot them, but rather what stance the zombie is in when you shoot them. You know how when you fire at their feet sometimes and you're left scratching your head as to why the bullets still reflect back? It's because you're supposed to look at the pose they're in. Any pose where they have their shield raised, they're going to reflect bullets back, no matter where you aim. You're have to either way until they drop their shield and walk toward you, or you have to bait their melee swings to get them to drop their shields away from their body, kinda like how you can bait the melee attacks of Pinkies in Doom, the Ogres/Shamblers in Quake, or the Leathernecks in Dusk. Once you do that, they're super easy to take down, especially if you use the Sten for the early game ones.
>>8846883
No problem man, casuals get on my nerves sometimes too.

>>8846806
He's one of those responsible for Zaero, make what you think of about it. . .

>>8846892
I think I've said this around here before, but there's a switch from importance of movement to importance of positioning, as far as oldschool vs newschool FPS go. RTCW is already not that movement-heavy, but ubersoldiers specifically are 100% positioning, 0% movement. electric dudes and leather elites too, to a lesser extent. stuff that discourages thinking on your feet, and instead rewards corner camping and abusing quickload foreknowledge.

>>8846902
>casuals get on my nerves too
I don't mind casuals. Or at least casuals who don't have a pretense about them. I have a bunch of friends who are only into games casually and there's no problem with that.

I DO mind when someone pretends to be a hardcore gaymurrr but in actuality is one of those people that get instantly hurt in their ego when the game beats them and claim it's the game's fault. But it do be how it be.

>>8846912
Yep, I've gotten that lesson pretty hard many times when I was playing the game not too long ago (on death incarnate too because I wanted the game last longer) . A lot of abusing cover I could see behind from but enemy had harder time hitting me and hunting the head pixels from around corners etc.

What is his best level?

>>8846904
I kind of like how this fella is the only existing Q2 entity with a rendered muzzleflash

Looking forward to the remaster?

>>8846806
wtf i love dumptruck now.

unironically he has done a lot to promote and help the q1 "community" and it sounds like he made a great call, I hope the political retards fuck off and he gets on with the content creation.

>>8846876
Super Soldiers can be a cunt and a half, but the shield soldiers aren't that bothersome, move in close to bait their melee back and forth, and then you continuously circle them and kick them in the shins over and over until they keel over, squeezing in some shots whenever they flinch from pain.

Actually, rushing up and getting some boots in as you spray them with bullets is fairly viable for all the undeads.

>>8846876
>Descent
As a kid descent on trainee difficulty was a challenge for me. Even now hot shot is about as hard as i'd play it.

>>8846916
Holy fuck you spend so long posturing about "casuals" while being so fucking retarded you don't know how difficulty works. No one cares.

>>8841330
is someone going to leak the selaco demo or what?

>>8846387
I was wondering once again, how hard would it be for a code-agnostic imbecille to make a ripoff of those Elimimitators by reskining an Enforcer and giving them the following properties:
>double HP (180)
>50% dmg reduction from explosives, stolen wholesale from the Shambler's entity definition (maybe 25% for Plasma-Thunderbolt)
>attack is a 3-shot burst of Floyd-laser, takes the same ammount of timing as normal Enforcers double-tap due to snipped animation frames
>custom audio "'borrowed'" from AoP's Lightning-Enforcer (maybe even re-use the tweaked stand-alone unique model from the fan-mod Redux version of that addon)

>>8847056
>No one cares
Well you cared enough to respond.
Sorry you're so bad at the game bitch boy.

>>8847069
just put two enforcers where you would have put one. similarly, a deathguard is just a boring drole.
the code for rocketeers' homing rockets has already been ported and is used for the rocket-bob variant. VRanon could just expose it as an option for grunt/enforcer attack replacements (though it would lack the "wind-up" delay).

>>8847069
HP change, reskin, burst fire, projectile model, and firing sound are already changeable by mappers. You can't add explosive resistance to enemies, but you can add armor. That would be easy enough for to implement though... I think.

>>8847086
>the code for rocketeers' homing rockets has already been ported and is used for the rocket-bob variant. VRanon could just expose it as an option for grunt/enforcer attack replacements
That's a good idea. I should probably give them lightning and plasma while I'm at it - only noticed a couple days ago that they don't have those options.
>(though it would lack the "wind-up" delay)
Hmmm... an attack delay option with a playable sound would be a good idea. Would probably make railgun enemies more fair anyway.

look what I found in my folders
it's from 2013 I think

>>8847104
Christ that's old and crusty.

What are some of your favorite gore mods? I'm looking for tons of realistic guts and blood and stuff, I've tried bolognese, nashgore and universal gibs already and I think I like bolognese the most so far.

Keep your bush in check

this might be a bad place to ask this
but is there a doom 3 mod that allows you to spawn sentry bots that will follow you?
i can spawn a friendly sentry bot just fine with the console (or even a hostile one) but just filling the levels with them feels wrong.

>>8847104
hah, nice. reminds me of this webm i made years ago

>>8847225
Bolognese. Nashgore's sliders are too obtuse a way to set blood and gore levels and you get weird shit like gibs flying out from normal enemy deaths. While Bolognese lets you set the gib health and spawns an amount appropriate for the monster's size. I only like Nashgore when playing blatantly overpowered stuff like Hearts of Demons.

>>8847240
>oh no is that a pride flag?? ooooh I'm going insane!!

>>8847086
droles are boring bullet sponges in 2.2 after they have been nerfed. the guard actually has fast projectiles
there is a secret pepe the frog statue in one of the mapjam9 maps but i don't remember who that was made by

>>8847020
No. I’m more interested in something for Q2. I’d be alright with a new Q2 release landsliding into something for SIN.

>>8847020
I don't understand how they tried to sell Alexis for sex appeal with that fucking face
Like the rest of her is great but holy shit

>>8847282
unless the projectile speed got nerfed, 800 vs 900 isn't much of a difference, and at least droles do real damage. dknights are the boringest enemy Quake has to offer and dguards are an extension of that. the only reason they exist is an unused animation.
>secret pepe
otp's map

Blood is so shit. Die, memorise that enemy, die, memorise that enemy, repeat.
No other build game is like this. In fact no other fps is like this. Just Blood and it's unfair broken cultist hitscan

>>8847282
ok I checked and it used to be 1350. that's pretty metal.
the point still mostly stands though.

>>8847315
>A BLOO BLOO I CAN'T ZIP THROUGH THE LEVEL ON THE FIRST TRY A BLOO BLOO

>>8846957
Anything from Sigil, I think that entire episode is really good

>>8847315
Play on a lower difficulty you shitter.

>>8847324
>>8847348
based

>>8847315
just because you can't play it doesn't mean no one else can.

>>8847237
Nice. Can't wait

>>8847064
It releases on june.

>>8847252
How did you do that!?

>>8847449
I can't really remember as it was like 8 years ago when I made this .webm.

I think it heavily scripted, setting the monster to have no gravity, thrusting the player in the air and freezing their inputs, then a really long attack state which actually dealt no damage, followed up by the final punch which dealt a shitton of damage and thrust. Pretty fun stuff to make, desu. Wish I'd kept it

>>8847446
it's already available for patreons

>>8847315
>In fact no other fps is like this
is this a bad thing?

>>8847315
Enemy reaction time is much faster on Well Done (even faster on Extra Crispy). It's like playing Doom on Ultra-Violence with fast monsters enabled: only do it if you love the level a lot already, otherwise you're going to need to use a lot of saves. You can safely play Lightly Broiled blindly without using saves and it's pretty comfy. There are some levels where it's rough, especially in Episode 1, but for the most part the game will give you a flare gun or shotgun or tommygun at the start of a level; you might need to use the pitchfork a lot, and also remember enemy health is changed across difficulties as well so you can kill zombies with one flare or one alt-fire of the shotgun. Obviously the superior way of doing things is the Doom way, leaving monster health/reaction times/damage unchanged and only changing the monster/weapon/ammo placement when changing difficulties, then having extra challenges like -fast or Nightmare!

>>8847317
whatever, i'm not in charge of quoth and not good at arguing.
i really like death guard sounds, if nothing else. also droles do real damage if they can hit you, and they can't.

>>8846754
some random nightly builds and other stuff, is kinda like KMQ2 atm.


>>8846904
And now Q1 is at the hands of fagweather, with spirit losing what is left of his patience with that crossdressing faggot with brainrot.

And fairweather also had his share on fucking over baker with fitzquake shenanigans, though most was baker's own stupidity, since QuakeOne was literally the only good place to talk about all quake games and even hexen 2 modding, and now is dead.
i am not surprised if he had his hand on what happened to LordHavoc too, since they were close.

>>8847064
It would release soon + not actually retro or interesting anyway.
>>8847502
>spirit losing what is left of his patience
>fucking over baker
>what happened to LordHavoc
TL;DR on those, please? I lurk in that shitty server, but not enough to really remember anything worthwhile. I did saw the shitshow with Dumptruck and it was awkward/discomfortable (I guess) since I'm Russian retard who just doesn't want to deal with this bullshit[/spoilers].

I'm having a bit of a problem.
I'm working on a WAD, and wanted to use a couple extra textures. I also deleted a bunch of textures that was wasn't planning to use.
However, when I rebuilt the Texture 1 and Pname lumps, all of my flats aren't being read. They're ALL showing up as completely empty, despite doing everything right. They're between the FF_START and FF_END markers, they're all 64x64, etc. I'm sure the solution is pretty simple but no amount of scouring around the UI is helping either.
What gets me is that none of the textures I was even messing with were flats. I only removed standard wall textures. I looked around online and it seems like nobody's had this issue the same way, so I'm asking here.

>>8847569
Flats aren't supposed to be in PNAMES or TEXTURE1. Flats are just 2048 bytes of raw data. Only wall textures are composed out of patches and defined.

>>8847530
>+ not actually retro
We can talk about current Doom mods, GZD or otherwise, can’t we? Would Selco not be allowed because it has a pricetag or something?

>>8847584
Oh, hm. I seem to recall needing to add flats to the TEXTURE1 and PNAME lumps but I am getting pretty old...
Thanks, I'll add it to my list of stuff to do when my projects break

>>8847597
Quite the opposite, adding them to PNAMES will likely cause doom to crash since their format is wrong. Flats work just by being lumps.

>>8847608
How come? That seems like an odd distinction to make

>>8847617
Walls are always pointing up the same way, so they can be optimized along those lines. Flats can be seen from any direction, so they can't be optimized the same way and have to be just raw set of pixels.

I'm back to working on my brutalist-inspired Quake 2 singleplayer map. It's been too much shit in my life recently taking all my time... I hope to get it done soon.

Also to those who want me to use Lazarus:
Please help me set it up. I have extremely limited time for mapping. I cannot really afford the time to learn something new that only one or two people are going to play anyhow.

>>8847641
Can’t help because am idiot but glad you’re back at it and hanging in there.

>>8846957
Against Thee Wickedly

>>8847315
you use explosives lol
SW is like this but more forgiving and way more chip damage

>>8846876
kick the zombies then shoot them lol noob

>>8846808
>rush in and shoot
less about rushing in being a bad approach and more about jank

>>8841330
Anybody know of good weapon+monster randomizers for Heretic (that fit the theme)?

I'm looking for something like DRLA for doom or War of Attrition for Quake.

>>8847952
have you tried hexeretic fantasy?

>>8847958
>hexeretic fantasy?

>(that fit the theme)
>duke enemies
>enemies from random sources that don't fit.

I didn't hear about it, and I still didn't now.

>>8847995
I do have a few but they tend to be either enemies OR weapons,not a single thing together,do you want a list?

>>8847641
Its an utter shame how all I can tell you now is to use WaybackMachine and browse the newlazarus.planetquake.com archived webpage fren, that thing was basicly progs_dump for Q2 before it was even thought of being invented - one cool feature that never came before the plug got pulled was making custom monsters on the go (outside of using misc_actor to create a player-weapons wielding entity) with minimum coding knowledge required…

>>8848005
Nah. I guess I'll just stick to the base game.

>>8848012
It’s nothing crazy like what you initially asked for, but Wayfarer’s Tome has some subtle and nice gameplay/balance changes.

>>8847103
/VR/Anon, should the Axeman get ax'd completely, or is nerfing him fine enough, currently he's just way too fast, even without the FasterMonsters mutator enabled

>>8848012
too bad,i already put the effort of turning on my machine
-ENEMIES-
>FantasyMonsters 4 heretic
>Legions
>SlayerAndShadowMonsters
-WEAPONS-
>Nightmare of the sin heretic patch
-BOTH WEAPONS AND ENEMIES
>Bitter Heretic
>Brutal Heretic
>heretic RPG
>Hexeretic fantasy
>Masters of chaos
>Wrath of Chronos
and finally a screenie of doom compatible ones,i havent extensively tested them so use at your own risk,i just download shit,test for 3 minutes on the first stage and keep it,to 'play' on the future

>>8846808
>why are you playing on hard mode as the first playthrough difficulty anyway...
None of my complaints are based on difficulty unless setting it to easy fixes the gunplay and hit detection and removes the terrible escort and stealth missions.
fwiw I'm not the guy who had trouble with super soldats

>>8844352
what part of Tekwar do you actually find appealing? serious question

>>8844214
>>8845754
>>8845736
>>8845715
>>8844487
Cuppy keks, really just wanted to make a wad name with an A and Z, so auger zenith sounded anime enough for him to name the wad as such.

>>8848054
the maps that use axemen have already been balanced around them. you may disagree with said balancing, but changing them 8 months after the fact is simply disrespectful.
not to mention that they were taken wholesale from Drake (aside from an aiming fix). I guess an optional toggle to make them melee-only (as they first appeared in Soul of Evil) is fine, as long as the existing maps remain unchanged.

>>8846498
niggas be like 'yeah texture filtering on by default'

>>8843141
I really like Dusk.

>>8848141
The axemen are painful, but yeah it's too late to change it unless all the mappers were onboard for a v2. Probably best for it to be a learning experience and refine gameplay in the next collab, hopefully with mappers returning with more experience too.

>>8848126
They named NAM too, they might not know much about them besides being build games.

>>8848057
Based

>>8843141
They are all starting to look the same to me, like that Turbo overkill, fucking gross Eternal gameplay. Its funny everybody mimetically loves them but they sell either like shit or never leave early access.

They are okay I guess. The ones that actually come out. But I hate how self aware most of them are.

I am still curious about gloomwood simply because its not a shooter.

>>8848183
Have you seen Reaver? They're not even hiding it anymore.

>>8848183
>fucking gross Eternal gameplay
Doom Eternal and Ultrakill already exist, I don't know why so many devs now think they have anything to add to that formula.

>>8848192
Its just another ultrakill.

Dont get me wrong there are tons of free amazing shit to play, with even greater quality on doom, thief, quake, hl etc.

What fucks me is that I honestly thought that more creative liberty would lead to other interpretations of fps, but no everything is just bland and safe.

>>8848207
I like the panzer dragoon painting mechanics in any game, there is that at least. But its really funny how fucking console and arcade these games want to be. Came a bit late.

>>8848192
>Ultrakill clone
Not surprising at all these days. I’m just waiting on the pricetagged GZDoom games, Peripeteia, and a couple expansions that may never be completed. The longer this takes the more I become exposed to quality mods that look and play better than most of these indie shooters, it’s a win-win for me.

Of course the most unique shooter released in a decade gets a clone almost immediately, lmao. These "Boomer Shooter" zoomers are fucking retarded, I hate them so much

>>8848154
>>8848141
That's what I get for coming up with ideas so blatantly untested only to abandon them like a scumbag, I initially just hoped for including some less-used filler humanoid enemy that's not an Ogre or a HellKnight clone of sorts - all they'd honestly need is somekind of telegraphing cue when their hatchet comes flying, most desirably thru a split-second to actually throw it with a seperate animation chcle

>>8848237
>most desirably thru a split-second stop to actually throw it with a seperate animation cycle
Autocorrect get bent -_-

When I really get down to it I dont mind them. There is tons of free ultra quality shit to play in old games I just hate how creatively void most of these games are.
Maybe its the self awareness.

Are looking at an eulogy for these type of games, once the old men die out they are over?

I mean other genres that also had problems from the dark ages still try to make new shit even when janky, rtses still going strong, city builders, crpgs etc.

Its just fps that have this retarded fixation with being OVERKILLULTRA instead of just having a cool idea and running with it.

>>8848215
>I honestly thought that more creative liberty would lead to other interpretations of fps

I'm also disappointed this hasn't happened yet. I'm worried by the time people really start innovating people would've moved on.

>>8847641
Looks good anon, good luck, Q2 modding/mapping needs more activity

>>8847315

>>8848207
>Doom Eternal and Ultrakill already exist
And Bulletstorm's 11 years old. Maybe the increased popularity will convince Gearbox to have BS2 made.

>>8847625
What wad is that?

I'm having a fun time.

>>8848236
What shooter are you complaining about now?

>>8848237
>all they'd honestly need is somekind of telegraphing cue when their hatchet comes flying
Yeah, their intensity and speed of the projectile is pretty cool, and i agree they just need a telegraph. Although, in the not-so-secret secret level the surprising works really well with the theme.

>>8848319
looks like this one

https://youtu.be/dIoM7oAIRys

>>8847315
>>8848258

>>8846876
If I was interested in Hard Reset should I play the original or Redux

>>8847482
Enemy reaction time is much faster on Well Done (even faster on Extra Crispy)
I still think this is BS after playing through the game a thousand times at this point. Just as BS as crouch being used to "dodge" bullets.
>you might need to use pitchfork a lot
You have endless amounts of ammo for all guns. if you're using the pitchfork at any point beyond the first level, you're doing something wrong, either using flares or aerosol cans to kill Cultists - don't do this, they track you through walls while burning and once they die they don't drop ammo. I see many retards complaining about EC not having enough ammo for the Chernobog, but the real issue is that they're not closing distance and using the alt-fire of the Tommygun to deal bonus damage to wipe him out in under a minute.

>>8847315
This can be literally said about any fucking video game you retard.
>broken cultist hitscan
You can dodge their bullets by strafing around them or hiding behind sprites, shoot at them to stop them from shooting, and

>>8848347
Reaver, Turbo Overkill, any other new shitty indie Boomer Shooter release that's riding on the coattails of Ultrakill and Doom Eternal

>>8848401
>shoot at them to stop them from shooting, and
and what? THEY GOT HIM BOYS.

>>8848397
never played redux, what I said applied to the original. haven't heard anything bad about redux though.

>>8848404
It's kind of funny how the phenomena of 'AAA game did something different and people liked it, now a shitload of indies are catering to the market because AAA would fuck it all up' seems like some sort of brand new, awful thing to people when it finally reaches their genre of choice. What are you so upset about? These games look cool and fun and aren't just trying to copy Quake and Doom for the millionth time.

Okay janny I mentioned two games in my post and they were Doom and Quake what excuse do you have to delete it now, huh? Gargle my cum.

>>8848401
>Enemy reaction time is much faster on Well Done (even faster on Extra Crispy)
>I still think this is BS after playing through the game a thousand times at this point.
That I’m fine with. It’s the boost to enemy health on WD that bothers me somewhat, and really bothers me on EC. I wish they chose either “more health” or “more enemies” and stuck with one.
I’m still holding out on Nblood or Raze absorbing GDX’s custom difficulty idea. GDX is still fine for me but some maps work better on Nblood and/or are exclusive to it.

The problem is that there is a vst and vrpg. So people can speak of old and new games there and avoid /v/.

But not here.

JANNY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES AGAIN. GET BACK TO WORK.

>>8848449
Is what it is. There’s also not enough interest to warrant a thread on /vg/ I bet.
Oh well. Time to revisit Eradicator, or discuss new shooters on retro/thread-relevant engines.

Tonight finding out if I can make a map with no doors. Detailing is work in progress.

>>8848493
Looks really nice, if not very very red. Do you plan on seperating encounters, or is it just gonna be one big brawl?

>>8848506
It's too complex for a big brawl, everyone would get stuck. I'll probably have ambushes as you progress along different paths.

>>8848493
>no doors
>3 doors in the webm
I get what you mean, I'm just busting your balls.

>>8847586
We do. I just referred to it being called a "retro FPS" basically because it was made on GZDoom. Otherwise you can't really tell that. At least I don't, hence why I don't get the appeal of it since Selaco is more likely to be a final blow to genre's renaissance...
Is that really a bad thing though? At this point of time, I'm honestly not sure it is. There's too much shovelware already.

>>8848518
>There's too much shovelware already.

This. I dont have anything against them as I said above, but while other genres seemed to have reinvigorated themselves and moved on. Fps seems stuck in time, even in mainstream triple a multiplayer shit.

Well, maybe we will get a 3dr person renaissance and some fakk2 sequel, but then again 3d person never really did go away.

>>8848518
>Is that really a bad thing though?
Not at all. It also already happened over the last year or so.
If it’s like GZdoom version of “The Citadel” with less blocky level design I’ll enjoy it. I even thoroughly enjoyed The Citadel.

Dumb question: Anyone know a way to extract the "add-on" wads from the Windows Store versions of the games? Apparently the Steam version stores them in the saved games folder; but not this one.

Another Unity version question: Is there a source port that plays the .ogg music they include?

Now reading that Crispy Doom supports "music packs"; but apparently a CFG file is needed?

>>8848537
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE THE WAD FILES FOR THE MAPS YOU'RE PLAYING
Holy fuck I hate Bethesda.
But if you're looking for Sigil in particular (based on filename), can't you just download it from Romero's site (https://romero.com/sigil)? The WAD is free although there's a non-free soundtrack to go with it.

>>8848658
Unintentionaly, maybe they're doing people a favor by encouraging illegal downloads if we consider our extensive modding scene.

>>8848537
Try to rename it by adding .WAD extension, I don't know.

>>8848658
I could, but it's the principle. Same for Master Levels, Evilution, Plutonia and No Rest.

>>8847237

>>8848658
>>8848670
Some of the wads with alternate content (BTSX Map names, Double Impact intermission screen, Doom Zero map tweaks, etc.) are worth putting in a personal archive at least.

>>8848658
>>8848668
Actually, burn these parasitic suckers to the ground I say, I'm going to plant a bomb near their HQ tomorrow. Which copro-atrocity absolved it now? Microsoft? Or was it Disney?

>>8848350
IIRC the secret-level Dopplerangers are actually Fiends with a model-swap applied to them

>>8848668
Pretty sure it's just save files, considering the size.

>>8848126
I've played everything else

>>8848183
>>8848236
desu similar to any successful game / trendy style of game. Fits the old "99% of everything is crap" idea.
In 20 years the stuff that stands out will be what people want to play while derivative release 400 will only be enthusiasts track down.

Something quite peculliar happened since last time I reloaded the final map after updating my QSS - the arena constantly hurts me to the point of dying from worldspawn, also the 'LARP-ers' die and gib themselves within seconds (and they sometimes don't even eachother but try to get me instead)
>found the healing spot again (yes its a feftover trigger, and not an invisible infinite Vial item as first suspected)

I'm getting back into Quake. What do you think about Ironwail? It's one of the Quakespasm deriatives. I'll stick to it for a time being, but I'm not sure if other open engines might be better.

>>8848135
Also good.

>Doom wad has custom weapons with recoil,fucking up your camera angle if you are playing with mouselook off
its a tiny bit annoying,also,is there an option to reset to the 'default' camera height in gzdoom? i cant tell if i am a pixel too high or too low

>>8848782
>is there an option to reset to the 'default' camera height in gzdoom?
END key.

Do any of the more vanilla doom sourceports have an improved hitscan calculation like gzdoom/zdoom do?

>>8848783
Thanks!

>Wad messes with player movespeed,Now its slower
>Makes some maps with obligatory jumps unbeatable
FUCK

Elder World episode in Q1 is kino

>>8848054
I personally don't see much need to nerf him, but I can certainly give him a melee-only spawnflag. Mappers could use that and/or reduced speed and health to make a weaker variant for future maps.
>>8848237
>all they'd honestly need is somekind of telegraphing cue
I could add some kind of sound at the start of their attack animation easily enough.
>>8848756
More to put on the list...

>>8848772
great so far, hope the guy stays the course.
has all the QoL (uncapped fps, multi-game support, underwater warp, lightmapped water) and none of the downsides (lighting bugs in vkquake, entity bugs in qss, bloat in fte).

>>8848967
I'm impressed you're still pushing out tweaks and fixes. Are you looking to get in some more maps for another release, or are you turning VR into a base mod for any future projects?

>>8848143
lmaooo fr fr no cap
I never use GZDoom except for this batch of screenshots, I should've bothered to change the graphics before taking fucking screenshots. This is why public shaming works.

>>8849020
>>8846498
shamful display

>>8849025
Gomen, gomen.

>>8846828
Completely depends on the game
In say Doom or Duke 3D Ultra Violence is fine to start on and their extra hard is just meme mode.
RTCW isn't hard on Death Incarnate except when it decides to pull stuff like >>8846360 or have a shit stealth/escort segment.

I am pretty much done with this map. Just have to test it some more to make sure nothing's out of balance or broken and then it should be good to go.

>>8849039
>Pic
What vidya does she play?

>>8849115
Strictly Doom, and she is mapping for it mostly
-Not that anon.

>>8849115
Doom for PS1 (and Duke 3D because I actually played that as a kid.)
>pic
Blessed Cacodemon more like Cute-odemon amirite