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why do japanese turn-based strategy games suck so much? i was playing pic related and was amazed at how fast i got bored of it. it's just a slightly less simple FE clone with a narrative to satisfy military baby brains.
Games like X-Com and Panzer General are way better in what they do, the breadth of tactical decisions is immense compared to what japan normally offers. Any suggestions on good japanese strategy games? Should I try the Koei WW2 games?

>> No.8837074 [DELETED] 

They just might suck or you just might be a nigger. You decide.

>> No.8837090

FE is considered the most tactical jrpg. Gba ones are for babies though.

>> No.8837094

I like Military Madness and Daisenryaku

>> No.8837112

>>8837090
Genealogy and Thracia are great with its big maps
But tbf that's how they achieve anything at all, loads of stuff.
I wanted more than just move units to choke point and rock-paper-scissors gameplay

>>8837094
Daisenryaku is good, played one on the saturn

>> No.8837120

PTO is pretty complex, it's more on the level of a grand strategy game / wargame rather than a turn based strategy game.

>> No.8837132

>>8837048
great thread OP, i know you needed a break from gargling cum all day

>> No.8837138

>>8837132
Lol

>> No.8837328

>>8837112
Ever looked into Master of Monsters? It's by the developers of Daisenryaku. The OG Fire Emblem designer also made Berwick Saga on the PS2, which seems like a more complex than Fire Emblem.

Maybe you'll also like Brigandine. My personal favorite is Dynasty Tactics because of the combos you can pull off.

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>>8837132
People like you are the reason why my turn based autism is rarely released in the west

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>>8837048
People like you are the reason why my turn based autism is rarely released in the west

>> No.8837632

>>8837453
i'm not shitting on turn-based games
i'm shitting on japanese tb games because they're dumb and simple as hell

>> No.8837638

>>8837328
nice suggestions, i'll look into them
and btw, dunno why i've never tried Dynasty Tactics back then

>> No.8837652

>>8837328
>Master of Monsters
game pretty

>> No.8837657

>>8837453
forgot to ask
what's you turn based autism?

>> No.8837687

>>8837120
fair enough

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>>8837048
>blocks your path

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>>8837048
>Should I try the Koei WW2 games?
I dunno, I find these way too complicated for my tastes. It's where difficulty turns into tedium. But if you like Panzer General with all realism options turned on, then I guess it's worth a try.

>> No.8837735

>>8837710
ngl this does get me interested
thinking about trying the PC versions of those games, PTO and Operatio Europe or whatever. Only played them on the SNES

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>>8837632
>>8837657
Japanese turn-based games feel less serious more fun and usually have a more anime theme for some comic relief. Western turn-based autism often takes itself too seriously.
Besides Fire Emblem and FF tactics I really like Castle Fantasia 2 and Sparkling Feather

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>>8837048
>why do japanese turn-based strategy games suck so much?
not just the strategy ones, every single J-so-called-RPG is inferior to the Western classics like Baldur's Gate 2, Ultima 4 and Wizardry 8

>> No.8838774

>>8837928
I don't really disagree with that. I'm even thinking that I wrote that

>> No.8838794

>>8837835
>too serious
examples would be? Front Mission takes itself way too seriously for what it is, as mecha stuff generally do

>> No.8838795

>>8837835
What's that?

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8838845

>>8838794
West had manly shit like FANTASY COMMANDER and WARHAMMER 40K
Japan had pokemon and literal child porn.

>> No.8838918

>>8837928
The jap original wizardry games are better than the western wiz games

>> No.8838920

>>8838845
Sounds like Japan got the better end of the deal

>> No.8838932

>>8837928
cope

>> No.8839784

>>8837048
>front mission
snes or ds

>> No.8839985

>>8838795
That's Sparkling Feather

>> No.8840012

>>8837048
Crw series/Black Magic

>> No.8840018

Advance Wars is legit one of the best TBS