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His name is still Robotnik zoomer-kun Eggman is just a nickname

>>8823987
NOPE SEGA has RENOUNCED his name as Robotnik and it IS NOT CANON now. They 'changed their minds" and called him EGG MAN. It's like if You renamed the Death Star "The Death Pineapple" just because you're gay and Japan. It's not legal.

"Sonic 3D Blast proves that players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good."—Yuji Naka

it's eggman robotnik
just like peach toadstool

How did boomers not notice "egg mobile", "death egg", "egg robo" in the old games?

>>8824004
The music is pretty fucking good too.

>>8824010
You mean the mobinik, the deathnik, and the robonik?

>>8824010
They're shaped like eggs. Doesn't mean he has to be an egg.

>>8824010

>>8824017
NO HIS NAME IS CANNONICALLY SPHEREMAN. BECAUSE... IMA LET YOU GUESS

>>8823981
Not Japan's fault when the US changes character names.

>>8824031
would you quit sucking Japanese dicks for a second to realize it's Japan's fault and we're victims?

>>8824025
Zooming photoshopping shit for their revisionism. Sad!

>>8824031
It is their fault when they change the name back. People were happy with Robotnik. They may as well have just left it alone.

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>>8824040
Nobody cares that his name is Eggman now

>>8824083
It's a worse name, and they insisted upon a worse name because of petty rivalries between regional branches, but that's on them. That's the future they chose.

>>8824083
Secondaries who got into the series with SA2:B when it was ported don't care that his name is Eggman. People who grew up with the classic games and surrounding media frenzy absolutely do care

>>8824083
>nobody cares
i don't give a fuck if i'm the only person on the planet that cares. i made the thread and it's not going anywhere and you can suck my fucking dick. i'm sure "what people care about is what I accept" is a great "personality" for you, but i'm not a fucking sheep and i say things because i believe them, not because "people care" or not

The movies still call him Robotnik, so...

>>8824083
yeah true

>>8824102
>More cringe non canon american media
Japanese character.

>>8824025
That's the name of the Wing Fortress.

>baby duck syndrome: the thread

>>8824130
>In human behavior, Baby Duck Syndrome is a term to refer to the reluctance of people to accept technological changes and improvement
Giving Dr Robotnik the name eggman is not a technological improvement. its not an improvement at all. You just made his name worse.

>>8824112
He was never popular in Japan

The weird part is early story bible stuff emphasizes that Robotnik is evil due to a bad egg and his name pre evil was OVI Kintobar... so it's like they wanted to go with Eggman the whole time but someone higher really wanted to push Robotnik instead.
Like the whole King Koopa/Bowser thing but even worse.

>>8824161
It is a change. Your attempt to undermine the point through semantics would indicate you know exactly what I'm talking about, even if the term isn't entirely on-mark.
>it's not an improvement at all. You just made his name worse
>Reluctance to accept change

Spax3 tier thread

>>8824112
>Sonic X is the Japan approved Sonic adaptation
>it's shit with too many human OCs and an unmemorable "Egg Man"
Surprise surprise, japan Sonic is shit Sonic. Sonic X EggFag is nowhere near Adventures of Sonic Robotnik or movie Robotnik. Not as good as Satam Robotnik and probably below Sonic Underground Robotnik.

>>8824195
>guy goes on a hyperactive rant

whoa slow down there debbie i played a couple games on my genesis, let's not start huffing paint in lorefag city

>>8824181
Why would accept change if that change sucks. Its like me cutting off your leg and then saying "hey why are you getting so angry, just accept change and move on :D"

>>8824220
anything that will enable him to feel smarter than you for any length of time.

>>8824031
>>>8823981 (OP)
>Not Japan's fault when the US changes character names.

A lot of it was Tom Kalinske's doing. As he was continually telling Sonic Team to make changes, to make Sonic more appealing in the US market. I can;t even blame him for a lot of his changes. Technically Sonic 1 came out on the genesis first. Before the Japanese or EU releases. So he was Robotnik first. It's funny. Despite some weirdo claims that Jim Carey is returning,. He made a video interview saying that he would love to return as Robotnik again, but he wants to be Eggman for the third movie, and get into a fat suit. I actually think that would be a good way to cover both.

>>8824010
>How did boomers not notice "egg mobile", "death egg", "egg robo" in the old games?

Yeah, the Japanese continually threw the name "Eggman" into the pixel art, because they apparent;y didn't like the name Robotnik. When Sonic Team created Sonic Adventure, they used it as a way to soft reboot the entire Sonic franchise and 'undo' the Sega of America changes.

>>8824206
Blame SEGA. You never saw Nintendo throw a tantrum over the American Mario cartoons and comic books and try to erase them from history.
>NOOO FREEDMO FIGHTAS BAD, GUROUNDAH AND SCRATCHO BAD! His namu is EGGOMAN DESU! Japan Sonikku is real Sonikku!!
Like holy shit. Mario has a whole RPG series with a ton of story. They just made it and uh, people liked it? No need to shit yourselves becuase the Super Mario Bros Super Show exists.
Mario just is the more mature series.

>>8824274
>some 'tendo faggot thinks i care about this argument

we were in no way talking about that. go jerk off in a mario thread. this is sonic thread. you deserve to die for being so retarded.

>>8824220
The only reason you feel it sucks is because your first exposure to the characters was imprinted on you. That's why I said Baby Duck Syndrome, because that's effectively what it is. People are generally more comfortable around things they know and understand, that isn't limited to the tech sphere.

I'd bet there is a Japanese person that hates the name Robotnik for the same reason you hate the name Eggman.

>>8824364
do you think i care faggot? robotnik.

>>8824384
Do you think I care about your indifference? You'd be arguing for Eggman had it been used for the US localization.
>But it wasn't so I don't care
And I'm pointing out the arbitrary nature of your preference and how retarded you look for acting like it's objectively preferable.

>>8824384
fraid i didn't read
>>8824409
didn't read this

>>8824410
Great, you didn't have to because it wasn't directed at you. Are you simple?

>>8824416
not readin that shit buddy

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>>8824428
Just a hunch.

>>8824459
not readin 'at shit

he was just eggman, then it was retconned that everyone calls him eggman but his real name is robotnik, as that was a slightly more plausible name for someone to actually have. that's the canon in japan, not just an excuse from the transitional period where the localizations changed which they use.
what's left to argue about?

>>8824481
Thought so. Man you're butthurt.

Having Sonic arguments on /vr/ demonstrates a lack of standards by this board.

>>8824502
not readle that diddle

try gain pussy

>>8824515
Seethe

>>8824004
you're giving Naka too much credit, he is twice as autistic as Miyamoto at the least

>>8824538
didn't read buh

>>8824548
You can't read, because you seethe.

Robotnik Winter stage in gg game and in adventure 2 in all international releases. Eat shit smelly egg weebs. Gerald Eggman is not a thing.

>>8824550
ronald didn't readgan was my president of the uniged stags

>>8824576
You can't write, out of spite.
You can't read, because you seethe.

>>8824589
not readin your squeedin

>>8824568
Relics from before Iizuka's era. He's about the only one who keeps trying to argue that Robotnik was never canon.

>>8824594
You can't read, because you seethe.

>>8824643
not readglin y8jng

>>8824664
You can't write, out of spite.
You can't read, because you seethe

What was the purpose anyway? The Japanese saying "Eggman" were literally using English for the villain, which described the villain. At what point does a localizer say "get fucked, we're making a new name" to them, and why? I'm not knocking either name, but how did this happen?

>>8824364
No its because EGGMAN is a stupid name. Its just a worse name. Stop it with your pseudo intellectual psychology.

>>8823996
That would mean that they literally have to pretend that literally THE most important character in Sonic Adventure 2 was never mentioned by name.

>>8825058
Sega literally told every region to do whatever it took to make Sonic popular. That's why America's view of Sonic is heavily coloured by the Archie Comic/Satam and the UK's view is based on Sonic the Comic.

>>8823981
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>>8825129
Yes that has been established already, which only proves my point further as you're failing to express what makes a good or bad name. I'm not saying you're wrong (or right), I just want you to use your words to express your opinion beyond "name bad" like a redundant dullard. I'm not here to pretend I care about your ideosyncratic issues, I'm here to discuss the thread topic.

>>8825136
They do.

>>8825232
he doesn't have to "meet your expectations" WHATSOEVER. YOU INSUFFERABLE FAGGOT

>please meet this hurdle... just do it

NO. DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS FAGGOT. YOU LIKE THE NAME ROBOTNIK. YOU DON'T LIKE THE NAME EGG MAN. YOU DO NOT OWE THIS FAGGOT AN EXPLANATION. EVER. THEY ACT LIKE YOU OWE THEM AN EXPLANATION AND THEN THEY PICK APART ANYTHING YOU SAY. YOU DON'T LIKE THE NAME THAT'S ALL YOU NEED. I SIMPLY DECLINE IS ENOUGH. YOU DO NOT NEED TO EXPLAIN TO ANYONE. HE IS ON A POWER TRIP. HE WANTS TO HAVE CONTROL OVER YOU "JUST MEET MY EXPECTATIONS"

NO! NO FAGGOT! NOBODY HAS TO EXPLAIN THEMSELVES TO YOU! YOU ARE FUCKING NOBODY!

>>8825232
A trying to sound like an intellectual you just sound like a fag and
B The reason why Eggman is a silly name is because well its just silly. Dr Robotnik is the name of an actual villain while Eggman simply isnt. Its like making a game about WW2 and then changing Hitlers name to "Victor Von Poopenfarten"

My Dad used to own a genesis and he always called him Eggman. So it's Eggman

>>8825267
My dad could beat the shit out of your dad man.

The Virgin Sonic Fans
>Dr. Robotnik is now Dr. Eggman
>Noooo!

The Chad Mario Appreciators
>Toadstool is Peach now.
>Okay

>>8825247
this cracka mad af

>>8825305
HAHAAAA LET ME JUST ACT LIKE SUPER BLASE NOWWWWW HAHAAAA THIS GUY WILDIN LOLLL

fFIRST IT WAS no all you have to do is simply EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YOU DON'T LIKE A THING.... YOU ARE REQURIED

"NO. FUCK YOU."

"whoaaaaaaa there white boys be wildin lmao white boys be wildin out hahaaaa why so madddd bro? i just pretended that the whole world revolves around explaining things to me. if you don't like a thing, and you say you don't like it YOU ARE REQURIED TO EXPLAIN IT. TO ME. BECAUSE I'M IN CHARGE"

fuck off 100%.

>>8825286
>Nintendo rolls with Koopa being called Bowser in America and makes a humorous Direct segment about how the new boss of NoA is also named (Doug) Bowser
>Sega plugs their ears and screams "NO NO NO! EGGMAN ONLY EGGMAN! NO ROBOTNIK!" constantly

>>8825272
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>>8825345
I see the unfunny underaged have arrived.

>>8825247
It's a forum. People discuss things, such as your disproportionately self-righteous indignation to a reasonable request.
>>8825315
Seethe harder over your inability to identify anonymous posters, kek. Are you gonna start posting that you don't read over and over yet again?
>>8825252
You're really hung up on the whole "they changed the name from a name I liked to a name I don't like" and stopping the reasoning there.
>you talk like a fag
"and your shit's all retarded", right? Are you unironically quoting satire? Kek
>Victor Von Poopenfarten
Funny name aside, if that were Hitler's real name, you'd be throwing a fit if someone changed it from that "original" to Hitler in a WW2 game. "where's Victor?" they'd say. "Victor is so much better than Hitler".

Here, I'll do your role for you. "The name "Eggman" doesn't follow western villain naming conventions". That's what you're failing to say, right? Or perhaps you can actually attempt something resembling a substantiative assertion yourself. Or don't, that isn't going to affect my intention to discuss the thread topic.

>>8825360
DIDN'T READ

>>8825371
You can't read, because you seethe.

>>8825378
didn't read

>>8825178
>Tails refers to him as Robotnik in generations.
>botnik says no one referred to him as that in ages, but does not deny thats his name.
>tails is 2nd smartest character in series
>its thus Robotnik.

>>8824364
Why do you assume the Japanese are the best pick for creating an english name? Its like asking a chinaman to write an english dictionary. You are just a weeb incapable of acceptance of the fact they picked a bad name.

>Robotnik family name- implies lineage of people who innovated through labor and technological advancement, a perfect description for man, the only recurring of his species in the series and a force to be reckoned with against nature.
>Eggman family name- implies ancestors were a bunch of smelly egg sellers.

Except the japs were wrong this time.

>>8825574
Only in the English version. That conversation is different for the Japanese one.

>>8825597
>implies
Hardly. All you've done is write what you think when you read those names. Here, let me spin it:
>Doctor Eggman: Mad Cartoon Scientist
>Doctor Robotnik: Mad Jew Scientist
These connotations are arbitrary. Both names are fine, but Eggman was first. It's a fine name.

>>8825597
What the fuck are you talking about? Both are just descriptive names of the man himself.

Eggman looks like an egg and is interested in making more things that look like eggs.
Robotnik communicates his interest in robotics.

Both are saying something about him, the villain, not a society or family he comes from that didn't exist at the time of his writing.

eggman is such a shitty name, i remember immediately cringing the first i heard it

I'm gonna settle this nonsense shit now.

Let's call him Pingasman

>>8825961
I've got one: Smegman

>>8823981
If it's any consolation, Maria and Gerald's last names are "Robotnik" even in Japanese guidebooks

>>8825145
I like the STC Dr. Kintobor arc tho.

>>8825351
Quick question.
Where's his cock?

>>8823981
Mate they call him Robotnik in the movies. It's over

>>8824090
>because of petty rivalries between regional branches
Weebs don't want to hear it but Japan has been driving Sonic into the fucking ground

>>8824576
Ronald Reggae 4 20

>>8825382
You can't read, because you seethe.

>>8826408
didn't read kid

>>8826408
>>8826640
If you kids don't knock it off, I'm gonna turn this car around!

>>8826661
didle riddle

>>8823981
Doctor Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik

>>8823981
Robotnik?

>>8824041
"barely made it"

>>8826760
snoopingas usual I see

>>8825654
Robotnik is a literal word describing a "worker". Eggman would only describe a egg related buisness origin. It proves the japs had no grasp of how english last names worked being based on a family lineage usually tied to a profession. They think "lol eggshapedbody" is good enough. They failed in the design and the west fixed it.

>>8825883
Then why is Gerald ROBOTNIK also using that last name, hmm, faggot? Even if its just "lolrobots", it implies his family has a long history in machine development/Science. Even the japanos realize this and kept the supperior, more SERIOUS, name for their deep edgy SA2 plot. Gerald Eggman would not be taken seriously. Sonic calling his eggman in sa1 as an INSULT is the best way to canonize the name, but it makes the doc a cuck for then sticking to using it to refer to himself unless the implications are he uses it to mock those who opposed him, like if sonic called him FAGGOT and he decided to call himself DR FAGGOT so that when he defeats sonic he can gloat how sonic got defeated by someone named Dr FAGGOT.

bro this is a message board and if someone DEMANDS that you explain "why you don't like eggman, the name" it's time to get to explaining. they told you to do it, and now you do it, because it's a message board. "i don't like the name egg man"
EXPLAIN WHY. "no" NOOO YOU CAN'T YOU HAVE TO SPLAIN IT YOU HAVE TOOOOO.... YOU CANNOT JUST YOU CANNOT JUST DO THATTTTT

>>8827097
He literally makes a giant space station and calls it the "Death Egg." it's more than just his body shape, the egg thing has always been a part of his overall aesthetic.

>>8827110
SO FUCKING WHAT. EGG MAN IS A NICKNAME. IT'S NOT HIS LITERAL FUCKING NAME. ROBOTNICK IS HIS REAL NAME.

>>8827110
>likes eggs
>looks like an egg
>sonic: im gonna call this faggot "eggman" next time i see his fat ass.

>>8827140
YES MY NAME IS LITERALLY "DOCTOR. THE EGGMAN ROBOTNIK" BECAUSE SONIC THE HEMGEGOG CALLED ME EGGMAN AND I HAVE SPHEROID SHAPED THINGS

>>8827097
-nik as a suffix is Slavic in origin, not English.
>>8827116
In America.

>>8827224
>oh hey uhhh you know in japan
i don't give a fuck about japan
i'm not japanese
>you know japan sonic wasn't that popular
why in the fuck would i care if a game wasn't that popular with people if i like the game and why the fuck in extension would i give any amount of a fuck about what another country thinks of a FUCKING BLUE HEDMGEHAG THAT GOES FAST?

AMERICA. WHERE I LIVE. NAME WAS ROBOTNIK. THEN THE DREAMGAY came out and they were like OH UHHH IT'S EGGMAN NOW BECAUSE UHHHH BECAUSE SONIC TALKS LIKE HE'S IN SMASHMOUTH AND SUCKS DICKS NOW

no. sonic doesn't suck dicks, and RO BOT NIK is his mortal enemy.

not CHOWCE AND HE HAS TO SUCK EGGS AND GET ALL THE CHOWS EMERALDS OR ELSE PERFECT CHOWCE IS GONNA

NO.

>>8827116
Sorry, tranny. His name is Eggman. Japanese Sonic is the canon Sonic.

>>8827278
And the Japanese are dumb for going with that.

>>8824031
Fuck Japan and fuck weeaboos

>>8827278
>HURRRRRR ADURRRR DURRRRRRRRRR
>EVERYONE'S A TRANNY!

Cowboys come from America. Japan Takes the American name for Cowboy, and calls it whatever Japanese word for cowboy is "A MATSU TASKU DORI HA BIG BANGERRRRRR"

the new name FOR COWBOY IN JAPAN LANGUAGE. IS A TATKSU BAKSU JAPANESE WORD. SO IT'S CANONICALLY COWBOY IN AMERICA. AND TASKU DICKU SUCKURU IN FUCKING JAPAN

stop bembarassing yourslef

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>>8825345
Funny enough there is one lingering localization that Nintendo fans deal with that is as old as Robotnik/Eggman...

And that's Ganon as a wizard. The character never had anything of the sort in any Japanese media, but because the cartoon and some english-only move names in Smash Bros, there's people who think Ganon is a wizard/warlock.

>>8827293
Yeah, fuck the people who made the goddamn games in the first place and their vision.

>>8827303
Doesn't clear them of making bad choices.

>>8827303
YEAH. AND FUCK YOU TOO. HIS NAME IS ROBOTNIK

Japs are literally the crying basedjack yelling at us "EGGMAN" all red in the face and crying while chad just has so say "Robotnik" and the autistic rice monkey is going to go into full meltdown.

>>8827326
This is probably the worst post this board has ever seen.

>>8827295
Absolutely malding tranny. Get a clue.

>>8827328
Go back.

>>8827328
SNOOP DOG IN AMERICA IS NAMED SNOOP DOGGY DOGG
IN JAPAN HE COULD BE KNOWN AS CREMLOR MC FLEGGIN
IN JAPAN HIS NAME IS CREMLOR MC FLEGGIN
IN UNITED STATES HIS NAME IS SNOOP DOG

YOU GET A CLUE

>>8827327
Look here he is

>>8827331
Seethe and dilate

>>8827338
OOP he's gone to his default of just saying the same four things when i was being hilarious and creative and providing the board with AMZING content, and you go

sneedy deedle

HAHAHA SO FUNNY BRO YOUR PERSONALITY IS GREAT.

HE SAID TRANNY MALDING COPEROO SNEEDY DOODLE SNEEDY BEEPLE.

he's gonna say it again!

>>8824364
I was aware of both names back in the day. I knew he was called Eggman wasn't aware that was a Japanese thing but I did think it sounded fucking retarded so faggot you can fuck off with your free psychoanalysis

>>8827347
Are you having a meltdown IRL too?

Japanese players who prefer "Dinky" are wrong. His real, superior, original name is Kiddy.

>>8827357
Not him but your /qa/ garbage does not belong on this board at all. Go back or die.

>>8827357
>i'm just gonna keep saying lazy shit that has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever

GUESS I WON. ROBOTNIK WON. EGGMAN AND 25 YEAR OLDS LOST. 35 YEAR OLDS WON.

Robotnik is his name, and "Eggman" is an insult that sonic made up.

I dont give a fuck, nobody can change my mind. Sega is fucking stupid and I know better than them.

>>8825602
And the world revolves around English speaking countries, thus making the English version more valid.

>>8827278
>Robotnik Empire
It's there in Japanese, too.

>>8827414
Isn't this the official canon as established by Adventure 2 in all regions?

I'm sorry tranny freaks but "Badniks" will forever kick the shit out of "egguman no robotto"

>>8827428
It's only an insult in the English games. In the Japanese version, it's just Robotnik's "supervillain name" that he presumably came up with himself.

>>8827428
Not since Iizuka took over the series.

>>8827428

>SO EVERY STAR WARS MOVIE UP UNTIL 7 WE'RE GONNA CALL HIM DARTH VADER
>WHICH IS CANON
>NOW IT'S CANON THAT HIS NAME IS SQUEEDLY SPOOPER BECAUSE WE SAID SO IT'S CANON NOW

then you 25 year olds who grew up with sonic adventure will go

>YEP IT'S CANON
>CANON MEANS GOSPEL
>THEY'RE JAPANESE
>THEY'RE JAPANESE IT'S CANON

HIS NAME IS ROBOTNIK.. Same guy. Same robotonik. HE DIDN'T GET A NAME CHANGE OR A SEX CHANGE HE ISN'T A DISCORD GROOMER HE ISN'T GAY HIS NAME ISN'T EGG FAG HIS NAME IS DOCTOR ROBOTNIK NOT EGG MAN AND YOU ARE NOT CORRECT

>>8827442
He doesn't control the series we do. We will rape his little yellow Japanese asshole into submission

>You're really hung up on the whole "they changed the name from a name I liked to a name I don't like" and stopping the reasoning there.
Do I have to spell out for you? Eggman isnt a good name for a villian. Western Or Eastern. Its a purposely silly name. You have to be litterally braindead to think that is a good name for a villian.

>Funny name aside, if that were Hitler's real name, you'd be throwing a fit if someone changed it from that "original" to Hitler in a WW2 game. "where's Victor?" they'd say. "Victor is so much better than Hitler".
The change itself isn't the issue. This is what you're not understanding. Changing something isnt the issue. Its when you change it to something completely fucking retarded. You would have to be lying if you seriously think that "Eggman" is not a silly name. Imagine becoming a war hero just to be called "The Eggman". Its just too silly even for a sonic game.

>Here, I'll do your role for you. "The name "Eggman" doesn't follow western villain naming conventions". That's what you're failing to say, right? Or perhaps you can actually attempt something resembling a substantiative assertion yourself. Or don't, that isn't going to affect my intention to discuss the thread topic.

Pretentious smug asshole shit. Keep on trying to act like an intellectual over a sonic game. You totally look cool and definitely don't look like a major faggot

>>8827448
Good luck on that. The man's so deluded that he insists Gerald was never related to Eggman and was just some scientist he idolized.

>Eggman is just an insult that Sonic called him
This was always the worst solution to the problem because we're supposed to think Robotnik hated the name so much he changed his name to it and made it his entire brand?

>>8824012
This, many of the tracks slap.

The schizo takeover is real. 4chan's not gonna' last much longer in another decade if this keeps up. It'll just be bots and schizos.

>>8827603
>Thinking the human race will still exist in a decade

>>8827603
Its just underage twitter larpers

Japan has officially adopted Robotnik as his given last name (he even has Robotnik relatives) and Eggman as the nickname.
This is canon.

>schizo having a mental breakdown about the villain of a children's video game property

>>8827243
>I don't give a fuck
You're doing a good job of showing that with your demeanor.
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>>8827443
>Indignant seething loaded with false equivalencies
I'd like to think you're trying your best but that'd be too sad
>>8827460
Villains are allowed to have silly names, it's an incredibly common trope in children's media. Don't worry, I liked SatAM Robotnik too, if that makes you feel any better. They're both perfectly fine names.

>>8827758
OH MY GODDNESS I WAS WAITING FOR THAT COOKIE CUTTER SHIT

>nobody can say they don't care without someone saying YOU CLEARLY DO

WHAT JAPAN CALLS ROBOTNIK. IS IN CON SE QUENT IAL

AMERICA WHERE I LIVE CALLS HIM ROBOTNIK, HIS NAME DIDN'T CHANGE BECAUSE SONIC ADVENTURE HAPPENED AND sonic goes OH IT'S EGGMAN

IT DOESN'T CHANGE BECAUSE JAPAN REFERRED TO HIM AS "THE EGG MAN"

HIS NAME IS NOT literally "egg man" or "the egg man" ANYWHERE.

HIS NAME. IS ROBOTNIK.

>>8827771
Sorry mate, his name is Eggman. always has been.

>>8827771
You forgot your clap emojis

>>8827774

NOPE.

i will rephrase the same fuckin thing i was talking about before that you refuse to understand

KEN GRIFFY JUNIOR GOES TO JAPAN

JAPAN CALLS HIM

BIG BASE-A-BALL A BIIIIG BIG BOYYYYY AMERICA BIG!

HIS NAME IS KEN GRIFFY JUNIOR
HIS NICKNAME IS BIG A BIG BOPPER BIG AMERICA BIG BOYYYY

HIS NAME ISN'T BIG A BIG BOPPER BIGGLY WIGGLY IN AMERICA, AND IT'S NOT BIG BIG BOPPER IN JAPANE.

HIS NAME IS KEN. GRIFFY. JUNIOR.

>>8827779
You'd have a point if he weren't called Eggman first ya ignoramus kek

>>8827549
Taking the term and twisting it, like blacks taking nigger and using it as niggah for a term of endearment.

Also helps differentiate himself from the achievements of the rest of his family lineage.

>>8827779
>[Eggman] goes to [America]

>[America] calls [Eggman] [Robotnik]

>His name is [Eggman]
>His nickname is [Robotnik]

>His name isn't [Robotnik] in [Japan] and it's not [Robotnik] in [America].

>His name is [Eggman].

>>8827813
EGGMAN IS NOT A FIRST OR LAST NAME. IT'S A NICK NAME

DR. (LAST FUCKING NAME) ROBOTNIK IS HIS SURNAME, WHICH IS HIS REAL NAME

EGG MAN OR EGGMAN OR EGGY ISN'T HIS NAME IT'S A NICKNAME

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>>8827779
This logic doesn't work as anon showed you, nor did anyone claim that just because it's Japanese that makes the name canon. The Japanese name came first, Robotnik came afterward.

>>8827825

>NAH DOESN'T WORK

Superman's NAME isn't SUPERMAN. it's Clark Kent. Superman is an ALIAS. OR NICK-NAME

EGGMAN'S NAME IS ROBOTNIK. IT ISN'T EGG MAN. BEFORE HIS REAL NAME WAS REVEALED TO BE ROBOTNIK HIS NAME HADN'T BEEN REVEALED. HIS NICK NAME WAS THE ONLY NAME PEOPLE KNEW.

DO YOU GET IT NOW DUMBASS?

how willingly dumb are you going to be?

>>8827847
>Superman's NAME isn't SUPERMAN. it's Clark Kent. Superman is an ALIAS. OR NICK-NAME
Both of them are aliases, his birth name is Kal-El. Awful analogy. Keep having your mental breakdown over a video game character kek

>>8828115
right, so HIS NAME ISN'T SUPERMAN or CLARK KENT

IT'S KAL-EL

KEEP PRETENDING I'M MAD AND SUPPLYING ME WITH DOPAMINE FOR LETTING ME DUNK ALL OVER YOUR NON-ARGUMENTS WITH HILARIOUS JOKES AND GOOD TIDINGS.

>>8828140
Why are you still allowed to post?

>>8823996
>SEGA has RENOUNCED
Well it's a good job I don't give a shit what modern Sega says is canon. The true Sega died almost 20 years ago.

>>8824010
"Eggman" was always his nickname.

>>8827794
Eggman Nigga is the other one

Thank ya', jannie. <3

I find it kind of funny that Sonic Adventure unified the names so he's known as Eggman around the world but that was also the game which redesigned him to look more like a generic fat man instead of being egg shaped.

It's like... Why even bother if he no longer looks like an egg shaped man?

>>8828851
I think adventure eggman is more egg shaped classic eggman is too circular for egg shaped

>>8828856
IIRC, that's the reason why Western Robotnik was given a pointy head; so he'd actually have an egg shaped profile.

>>8827442
Iizuka is a piece of shit and I hate him. Like, literally every video game series that has had translation shit like this has either solidly made it official that character just have different names in other regions (Mario, Pokemon, Dragon Quest) or make nods to it and embrace the international weirdness (MegaMan, Street Fighter,). I have no one why he desn't wnat that.

>>8823996
They literally mention the name "Robotnik" in Generations and allow him to be called that in the movies

>>8824025
This has always been weird to me because wasn't Sonic 2 developed in America?

>>8827487
Is there a source on that? Not that I don't believe you or anything, he would absolutely just outright ignore concrete canon facts and make up some stupid bullshit like that

>>8829963
whoops wrong picture

>>8829951
https://youtu.be/Js3yvTsIPfY 7:44
Japanese versions don't include that, same goes for Generations.

>>8826760
“ROBOTNIK IS COOL”
“SONIC IS A FOOL”

>>8831227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syE7Q8KcdIc

>>8823981
Yes, but WHO named him Eggman?

>>8828851
>so he's known as Eggman around the world
The movies have put him firmly back as Robotnik

>>8830613
I'm talking about the live action movies that literally just came out, not the OVA from the 90s

>>8832903
They still called him Eggman

>>8832920
Did you even watch the movies? Yeah they call him Eggman, as a nickname like in SA1. It's still official acknowledgement of the name Robotnik

I am the Eggman
That's what I am
I am the Eggman
I got the master plan

>>8832980
I am the egg man
They are the egg men
I am the walrus
Goo goo g'joob

>>8832934
Weird they did that, Eggman sounds more like a regular person name. The robotics obsessed doctor named Robotnik is a little too on the nose for "Sonic but in the real world"

>>8833014
It's pandering to older fans.

>>8833014
>Eggman sounds more like a regular person name
what the fuck are you talking about

>>8833042
Anime-related dementia, I would assume.

>>8823981
>>8827549
His name is Ivo Robotnik, Eggman is Sonic's rude nickname for him. He claims the name Eggman as warped-logic damage control, incorporating it in revenge schemes by humiliating Sonic/the world in their defeat by the egg themed superweapon of the game.
Kintobor should be buried and forgotten about
>>8827372
but "Kiddy Kong" doesnt have the DK initials like Donkey, Diddy, and Dixie.

>>8832934
Just like the nickname is official acknowledgment of the original name Eggman.

>>8823981
Didn't Adventure 2 make it so Eggman and Robotnik are both canon?

>>8833042
It's a Jewish name, the man is pronounced min

I called him "Tritonero" in early 90s because I was a kid and my cousin couldn't get any farther than laberyth zone

>>8834096
>original
Sonic was released in the US first, so Robotnik is his original name.

>>8834543
Why would they localize the name if it were the original? Talk about a non-sequitur

>>8834575
Robotnik was the only name he had on release day, it was over a month later that a version with "Eggman" appeared on Japanese shelves.

>>8834601
Release dates don't reflect development order. Dean Sitton himself, the guy that conceptualized the name Robotnik, acknowledges that it is a localization. Thus not original.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171110005731/http://www.tssznews.com/2009/01/15/first-tssz-dean-sitton-man-behind-robotnik-name-speaks-out/
>Robotnik is the name of the American localization of Eggman … the bad guy turned the woodland creatures into robots; seemed logical from a descriptive standpoint. `Ivo` also sounds like `Evil`.
Case closed.

>>8834702
>r-release dates don't count!
Cope harder, weeb.

>>8834727
>c-c-cope
Nice refutation ignoramus