/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8786294
SMW has tate mode?

>>8786406
Tate mode?? What is that? If you mean like the weird screen size. I had to turn off crop overscan and it looked normal

>>8786416
go back reddit tourist

>>8786531
Thanks for your addition to the thread asshole.

>>8786294
Just use a PC if you're going to run emulators, Pi is pretty underpowered for that.

>>8786586
I understand that for sure and its probably better. Its just i already had this pi and wanted to see how it work. I got a 120gb card in there. Its got some ps1 around like 30 or so games. Played a few it worked okay at 60fps. Everything from there is just 16 bit and back. With about 30 or so NEO GEO games. That seemed to run well but didnt play them and the fps counter also said 60 fps..


I know the pi loses some power in its cpu when its forced into SDTV mode but i was just curious cause im not gonna plug in my HDTV for a while.


Also out of curiousity how would one hook up a modern pc to a crt tv? Im gonna have too figure that out

>>8786601
>how
Go to the crt thread they will teach you how to do it

>>8786601
what >>8786607 said
pretty sure there's posts about it right now

>>8786601
hooking a modern pc up to a crt with minimal latency is exhausting. you'd probably need to find an older video card that can output an analog signal, a converter, and a certain driver for the card. if you do some googling you can find all the steps but unless youve already got a spare pc that you want to turn into an emulation box id recommend a pi, a homebrewed wii, or a mister.

>>8786607
That would be pretty kino. I could play dreamcast on that tv. Interesting

>>8786616
I got the wii homebrewed wii and i got this pi. Dont have a mister. It probably is exhausting i believe it. For now ill look up the process on youtube or whatever and note it for down the road.


>>8786607
Alright sounds good

>>8786616
>hooking a modern pc up to a crt with minimal latency is exhausting. you'd probably need to find an older video card that can output an analog signal, a converter, and a certain driver for the card.
all you need is a displayport to vga adapter and a vga to rgb or scart cable, I have no idea why these old outdated methods like you're suggesting are still recommended
hooking it up takes a minute and configuring the software side is a one time job and takes 10 minutes, maybe a little more if it's your first time

>>8786816
Ahh that sounds pretty interesting. Hook it up to a old pc crt. That would cool

I knew the pi3 had AV port but I thought the pi4 did away with that.
YES LETS PUT IN MINI HDMI BECAUSE WE’RE SO BRITISH AND SMUG

I have a pi4 set up with kodi with composite out going into my pvm with ErsatzTV running old TV shows over IPTV. looks pretty good at 480i.

>>8786294
neat

i have the pi3 but never messed with the analog output as i have original hardware .

can you run 240p test suite and test the input latency? i know its not a scientific test but it will give a ballpark estimate

emulation on the pi3 is underwhelming so i never upgraded

>>8787080
They didn't get rid of the audio jack. They just turned of standard definition. It was on by default in the previous models and would initiate depending on which wire was plugged in. I guess this actually caused some "slowdown" in the machines operation. So in the 4th models they turned it off in the config settings. Its really just adding a few settings to this file and its back on.

>>8787103
i really should get a second mini SD and flash something like that and watch kinos on my CRT.

>>8787110
How do you run the 240p test suite? is this a feature in a menu? i noticed some latency with Neo Geo. The jump was like a second or so delayed on Metal Slug 1. I turned on run ahead by 1 frame and it seemed to adjust back to normal. I only tried SNES and PS1 after. I played a few levels in Super Mario World and i didn't really notice anything like NEO GEO and run ahead was in fact off. I also tried PS1 with crash 2 and didn't really notice any slow downs and run ahead was also off.

i think the raspberry pi for all intents and purposes was actually a significant upgrade over the 3. I can't say this for sure as i have never owned one. but i think it is. i got introduced to the PIs when the console mini's came out and there was always one dude like

>just get a raspberry pi bro

and i wanted a snes mini at some point and realized they actually just cost more than a raspberry pi 4 or at least did at the time.

>>8787201
240p test suite is a free rom
nes, snes, genesis, pc engine, etc

>>8787331
I ran the genesis emulator one on the pi. There is no option for a lag test like in the youtube videos

>>8787331
>>8787110
>>8787459
I found it

>>8787110
>>8787331
So its .03 frames of lag from me pressing a button. With the pi hooked up to the crt

>>8787552
>>8787465
anon wtf kek
just try pic rel and report back if its not big deal

its called input test

>>8787724
it should say "0 frames" after a few rerolls
otherwise im probably not picking one up
the pi was fun to setup but i really dont use it at all nowadays

>>8786294
Fix your gravity, bro. Shit's sideways.

>>8787724
Alright but im going to bed now

>>8787736
Idk how. It keeps doing it idk why

>>8787753
did you finish the test?!?!@?

>>8787792
Yeah it said .8 frames at the screen with the numbers all in a row

>>8787807
honestly thats better than i expected anon

thanks 1 frame is more than acceptable

>>8787807
take a nap
& report back with the test results on genesis, snes, pc engine, and neogeo
each emulator will vary slightly

>>8786586
pi is very small

>>8786294
Does that Rpi output real 240p or is just the screenshot?

>>8786616
The wii outputs 240p but its emulation is outdated, it cant even do ps1, n64 or even GBA.

I myself got a laptop with native vga output

>>8786294
>plays a 16 bit game on a flatscreen
cringe

>>8788181
It’s fine.
Works well.
Owning a CRT is pointless.

>>8788169
it's a composite out so I don't see why it wouldn't

>>8788190
How good is at ps1 and Nintendo DS 2d games?

>>8788187
But that is a CRT

>>8788187
flatscreen tvs are the worst for megadrive/snes zoomy

>>8788187
>Owning a CRT is pointless.
zoomy

>>8786294
Yeah, I use one of these too. I think it's great. Get some appropriate USB gamepads and it's almost as good as having the consoles yourself. It even runs PlayStation fairly smoothly.

>>8786586
Raspberry Pi has video out which is very useful for hooking up to CRT without extra latency.

>>8786294
Yes. I use a RP4 with RGB-PI and RGB PI OS 4. Dynares is just amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g696-PJuUs

>>8788214
on a Pi4, good
on a Pi3, not so good

>>8787046
Anon's point was that you can use a CRT TV that way, you don't need even that to use a PC CRT, but you won't be able to do 1:1 240p.

>>8788242
>Raspberry Pi has video out which is very useful for hooking up to CRT without extra latency.
So? You're acting like a PC doesn't.

>>8788231
>>8788227
Born in 79. Would never go back to these heavy pieces of junk. There no real advantage to a CRT over a modern screen.

>>8788596
For anything but light guns the argument is (BARELY) there.

For light gun games there is no argument; get one or get fucked.

>>8788596
You're just a joyless old man
Crts are maximum soul

>>8788557
The PC has to go through a few hoops to get to the analogue signal unless of course you have a video card specifically for it
The Pi doesn’t, same with the mister

>>8788596
I’m guessing you have a small apartment?

>>8788613
You can actually use the miSTer RGB cable for your PC if you have a VGA port or DP dongle
Doesn't seem much of a hoop to me

>>8788616
I could fit one in but I honestly see minimal advantage. I get the nostalgia but I don’t see a reason to. It’s not adding anything much over a large modern screen.
It’s nice that the Pi can do this.

>>8788612
>soul
So they are bad.

>>8786416
Tate means vertical in japanese. Your picture is rotated thus the 'comment'.

>>8788621
Filters suck and modern screens are still a blurfest, specially for 60Hz content, that's the only reason to use a CRT for /vr/

>>8786294
What's your signal chain?

>>8788621
That’s fine, what I get out of it is just better looking games, but I suppose you like the more pixelated look

I hate phonefags so fucking much

>>8788596
you are a /vr/gin

>>8788169
Yeah its doing 240p. Its got sdtv capabilities for sure at the price of some of its CPU power.

>>8788214
Never tried DS games but ps1 games work really well. Every game ive thrown at it. Had zero problems. Once when i first got it a 3D game names Blade. Had a weird wire mesh glitch that appeared late into the gam and. Like every thing looked all fucked up and wirey. I save loaded and it never happened again. Ive updated the core since then and its never happened again since then. Idk what caused it. But ps1 plays great on it.

>>8788242
I got one of the 8bitdo pro plus controllers pluged in. Really makes a difference.

>>8788631
I dont know exactly what that means desu.

>>8787807
Yeah its not bad.

>>8787817
Im gonna try the snes and neo geo one later. That was the genesis one.

Yeah its not that bad at point eight a frame.

>>8788598
So there is no real advantage unless you want to
play the small subset of niche games that require a light gun.
I’m not sure I’d want to get a CRT just to go back to the days I played point blank on PlayStation or the super scope on the SNES. Super scope. Lol

>>8789431
Its actually a major night and day difference in how the games look on a crt vs a flat screen and any amount filters or changes made to resolutions are just a cope.

>>8789431
Have you actually never used a CRT?

The best

>>8786586
> emulators, Pi is pretty underpowered for that.

Are you using javascript for your emulators?
The Pi is overkill for all emulators up to 6th generation.

>>8789503
its true, all of it

The true redpill is original console + CRT + flashcarts

This is true. There is literally no difference, not even in theory, from using the original cartridges, since ROMs are bit-by-bit identical, regardless of where they stored.

You get to save time, space and money on the original cartridges and at the same time enjoy all the small quirks of the very original hardware.

Emulation has its advantages, but also its downsides: not everyone has a powerful enough PC to run an accurate emulator, you may not have access to the original controller and the experience is going to be significantly different if the game originally relied on some specific hardware feature of the console itself (think about the DS's touchscreen).

A flashcart is a one time investment that avoids all these problems.

>>8789503
Yes, as I was born in the late 70s. I used them from Atari VCS onwards until the mid 00’s. Played that final fantasy when it came out on one.
I do not miss them. These screenshots do nothing to change my mind. It’s not an issue.

Emulator

Flashcart

Raspberry Pi 4

>>8791419
Seems ok.

>>8791438
I think so.

>>8791418
Then why are you posting things like >>8789431 then? You say you can't remember or don't even know and then you claim you do remember and know. Weird.

>>8791249
Not really, even with some 4th gen and most 5th gen you're losing accuracy to get said performance. Works? Of course but far from perfect.

>>8791632
i would say its "serviceable"
and is a great gateway drug to see i you wanna go down the annoying rabbithole of sourcing all the original hardware/flashcart shit for said system

>>8791249
lol enable runahead and watch it die
if I'm going real crt then at least I want matching latency to the real system

>>8791912
i think its unreasonable to expect a $40 device to do this?

its like a demo system, see if you like the hardware before buying the hardware

>>8791932
price doesn't change anons argument
it was: >>8786586
>Pi is pretty underpowered for that.
this statement is either true or false, value doesn't change it

>>8786406
Kek