/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8776075
pretty sure this shitty game is still being played

>>8776075
Same but with TF2

>>8776078
It's not the same. Every server is 24/7 d2 with infinite money and modded to the point of affecting hit reg. Just a bunch of Brazilians.

>>8776082
I hate how this is inevitably what all multiplayer games become. Just a few autists playing on the same exact map over and over and over again with retarded handicap mods.
Thankfully I was reminded by how good multiplayer fps used to be by finding a server on TFC that had a good map rotation and 0 server mods. Was pretty nice, felt like I was in the game's heyday during the early 2000s.

>>8776075
CS is RNG garbage. Always has been.

>>8776098
RNG being bad is a zoomer mindset.

>>8776107
>Server decides who wins

>>8776098
How does CS have rng?

>>8776078
>>8776098
Quakeniggers please...

Goldsrc mods were the peak of gaming

>>8776075
So what's your favorite game now that CS is gone?

For me it's fy_pool_day

>>8776075
People were too autistically good at CS for me to enjoy it. I tried but I was shit. Getting blasted the 0.100second you poked your head around a corner every time. Preferred Unreal and Soldier of Fortune online.

>>8776098
Wtf are you talking about?

>>8776492
lol this was a great map

>>8776075
A lot of people still play it. I do since I was 19. I'm 37 now. I still play Quake Live as well. Glory

>>8776082
>It's not the same
To a degree that's true, but there are still plenty of legit pubs and good groups that 10 man on a regular basis. You just have to lurk a bit.

>>8776492
It better not be snowing outside. Current admins scared to put it on snow. I'll rape their face. Pool day is good too. All of the fight yard maps are legit and provide the best, most intense, and fastest game play CS has to offer. 1.6 for life.
>No crouch hopping allowed here
Don't even have it bound to my mouse wheel like a shitty, which wasn't even allowed in league anyway. Double tapping duck off the keyboard however was. I'm so tired of shit admins that can't dance, telling me what buttons I can and can't press on my keyboard. 20+ year old game and shitties still gonna be shit.

>>8776879
>plenty of legit pubs
Give me an ip to a NA server that is not 24/7 dust2 and follows the money system

>>8776416
I play a bit of CSGO but I hate the zoomer skins and I hate how matchmaking has killed pubbing. I play a bit of TF2 but that's in bad shape. I dont really know.

>>8776936
WristHax and Top Frag just to name a couple. There are others as well. WristHax and Top Frag indeed have 24/7 D2 servers, but they also have other server with different rotations. Their servers always have people playing. There are also pug servers such as CS Dudes, which is hosted out of LA. Basically, once the server fills to 10, the 1st in executes lo3.cfg

>>8776954
>CSGO
Into the trash it goes. Nothing personal, but that game is trash.
>inb4 graphics and shit
No evolutionary movements. That's what made games like CS 1.6 and Quake legendary. Besides, the guns have been nerfed multiple times since 2012. The curve is always being fucked with and that's not legit.

How good was Italy and oilrig

Miss it so much. GO was ok but I hate esports these days would much rather be in 2002 playing public FPS maps

>>8776954
>CSGO
Just another example of not being retro and having no soul. Some say CS is just Half-Life, Quake is a life style. Even the later versions of Quake have no soul. Both 1.6 and Q3A are absolute perfection in my book. TFC and TF2 are notable mentions. Not my cup of tea, but I respect their communities and pro players.

>>8777040
>oilrig
Best map in the game. Italy was pretty fun too. I like how on Italy you could jump onto the ledge in the market and troll people when they inevitably ran through.

>>8777040
>Protect the VIP Team

>>8776098
bait

Bump

>>8776416
>now that CS is gone
Wut?

>>8777016
I don't want to defend CSGO (or nuvalve for that matter) but CSGO imo does feel pretty good as a successor to 1.6. The most glaring issues are the zoomer skins, matchmaking killing pubbing, shit maps, OP radar, nerfed walling, no minmodels, etc but mechanically it feels like CS and that's what is important. If I want to play CS, CSGO will scratch the itch, but it is inferior to 1.6 in basically every way. Not sure how it could have really innovated.

>>8776075
it really was peak PC gaming.
the community was so active. the competitiveness, the custom maps, the culture... nothing would come close.

>>8777941
Based take

>>8777941
>Not sure how it could have really innovated.
Perhaps finish what CS Pro Mod started? Tactical Intervention, made by the co-creator of CS, Gooseman, did a pretty good job. Not referring to the driving stuff. Fun Fact
>Goose
on top A plat de_Dust2 is homage to him.

TI or CS:TI as it originally was supposed to be called before CS:CZ happened was legit and I'm sad it hasn't been available for sometime. Although, it felt like a fork of CS:S with rolling and repelling.

>>8776282
>>8776743
>>8777541
You don't event understand the fundamentals of CS. Embarrassing.

>>8776078
It's literally just a vector for malware now unfortunately.

>>8776894
Lol yeah it sucks that so many servers now are ran by wardads who will ban you if you jump around even a little bit. God forbid I move 10ups faster for a couple seconds

>>8778353
nah

>>8778286
explain how cs has rng

>>8776075
>surf gungame on 1.6
>zm_toxichouse
Normal gamemodes were boring as shit but stuff like deathrun, zombies, surf, jailbreak were fun as hell.

>>8776107
Rng is bad, do not pretend otherwise

>>8778915
>Bullet goes in different place every time
>Bunny hopping
>If 2 players die at the same time server arbitrarily decides who wins
If you have to ask, you seriously shouldn't be discussing CS in any capacity.

>>8779640
>Bullet goes in different place every time
Shit aim, skill issue.
>Bunny hopping
Skill issue
>If 2 players die at the same time server arbitrarily decides who wins
Never heard of this, can't be a big problem
All in all, it just seems like you're a shit player who cries when they die.

E

>>8779793
Thanks for demonstrating you don't understand the fundamentals of Counter-Strike. I accept your concession.

I liked Deleted Scenes. There's something about the janky singleplayer missions that make it intimidating but also fun.

>>8780009
>doesnt know what a spray pattern is
>doesnt know that bunny hopping can be practiced
You're the one who doesnt understand the fundamentals. I assume you are a quake troll though.

>>8780045
Thanks for demonstrating you don't understand how CS works. Mega retard.
lol
lmao

>>8780045
>what is spread
>what is sv_allowbunnyhopping
CS larpers are actually cringe

>>8780045
>bunny hopping
Bunny hopping is a meme that was only used in pubs when people were hunting for the last few players. Bunny hopping was never fundamental to CS, and even it was, it was eventually replaced with crouch running anyway.

I never really got why people like this so much but I always was a big wuss about competitive online games.

>>8780087
Pubbing in CS in your fav 12v12 militia server with regulars was always comfy. Ranked / Competitive is shit because it's full of pissbabies.

>>8780068
These kids are definitely buttblasted quakefags trolling. Bunnyhopping was never a fundamental mechanic, and spread while lame, was minimal because anyone with decent aim would 1-2 tap and learn recoil patterns.

>>8780143
Is that CSS?

>>8780143
>I'll prove him wrong by showing a gif of spraying into a wall once
LMAO

>>8780143
CS players are comically retarded, by far the most retarded community on the planet. You could literally open up the game and discover everything I've said is true within 30 seconds. Instead you bunker in pretending you know anything anout the game you champion.
Embarrasing.

>>8780238
>>8780207
I'm not whoever you're arguing with, just felt like posting it.

why are quakefags so autistic?

>>8780143
CSS>CSGO

>>8780038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZip9sb-PfQ

>>8780238
Bunning hopping is not a fundamental mechanic like your adhd simulator, and aiming is point and click and learning spray patterns. You are a retard kid, go back to /v/

>>8778353
how

>>8780412
>Bunning hopping is not a fundamental mechanic like your adhd simulator
People bunny hop in CS all the time, but it's restricted by RNG. Again, you confirmed you don't know ANYTHING about CS.
>and aiming is point and click and learning spray patterns
Bullets don't always go in the same place you retard. Literal RNG.
You are a retard kid, go back to /v/

>>8776075

>>8780584
Can you even play CS 1.6 online on windows 98SE?

>>8776075
The fuck do you mean? I still play it on Steam and servers have plenty of people. Game costs like 5USD

8780579
shitter cope

>>8780672
Yes, you're so shit you don't understand the basics of CS. I'm glad agree with me and that you concede.

8780673
shiiter cope

>>8780676
yep, you're coping and mad :^)

>>8780683
no, just laughing at your autism

>>8780690
So you admit you're wrong. I accept your concession. Shitter cope doesn't understand the basics of CS :^)

DOOR STUCK

>>8780579
>People bunny hop in CS all the time, but it's restricted by RNG. Again, you confirmed you don't know ANYTHING about
Video of someone bunny hopping in CPL? No one bunny hops in comp, at best it was a pub tactic to evade fire if you are desperate.
They do, you're just a shitter with bad aim :)
Take your own advice kid. I know that you're an assblasted quakefag who is seething 20 years later that his precious genre died. The eternal assblast is delicious.

Quakefags are next level autistic incels god damn

>>8780782
>No one bunny hops in comp
Occasionally, people bhop. It happens all the time. I know because I play the game, unlike you who has demonstrated they don't.
>They do, you're just a shitter with bad aim :)
You demonstrated you don't understand the fundamentals of CS. You're literally bronze lol.

>>8780791
you claim to play CS, yet you claim there's no RNG.
you owned yourself lol

I signed into DoD the other day and there was nobody on. Those old goldsrc games used to always have players and I'm not going to lie I almost cried. It was like a part of me had died. Thankfully TFC still has a couple active servers.

>>8780782
You bunnyhop down ramp to go fast long A if you get a good spawn.

>>8780639
Yes you can anon. With won2 patch on the retail (nosteam) version of half life. Not many servers but if more people ditch steam I'm sure they will pop up.

Good memories playing this at cyber cafes

Didnt much like the update that added the galil and the gay ass shield tho

>>8780068
>Crouch Running
Crouch Hopping fify

Not fundamental, but the inherit evolutionary movements differentiate the novice from the advanced or pro players.

Anyone who binds duck to their mouse, should be shot. Illegal bind in client. Learn to dance off of your keyboard, which was allowed in league play.

>>8780978
You can only obtain speed heading down a ramp, or any incline. Before 1.3, you could bunnyhop and gain speed on flat level, which where the exploit came into play, which is why it was patched in 1.3. Crouch hopping evolved from the patching, which is glorious. Modern day MMOFPS wishes they had that kind of evolutionary physics.

>>8778356
What the shit admins that can't dance don't realize is that one must only utilize the crouch hopping technique at the right time. Failure to time it correctly will result in ones hit boxes being skewed in a certain way thus, making it easier to frag. It's like they see a seamless pro player with an abundance of legit proof, 18 year old steam ID with no VAC bans but has to be cheating. Seems legit

>>8780981
I'm a member of the Won2 group on steam. It's honestly dead. Which is sad. Ideally, an actual Won2 client would have been a reality but we didn't possess the development acumen or the funds to hire. Serious game play is all we ever really cared about.

>>8781012
Utilizing the cross hair correctly, bursting rather than spraying, wrist technique, is how to avoid getting gayed like that.

>>8781035
What you got to do is get a group of guys to gather at a certain time to get the ball rolling. The problem is most people have no idea stuff like that even exists.

>>8780976
Goldsrc for life. Trust me, HL and it's mods aren't going anywhere. Well, at least until the community ages out and dies. I don't think they'd appeal to zoomers, and don't know that I'd want them to. Simple as

>>8781067
Other non-steam clients exist, but they're not the same as Won2 was/is, kind of. More over, the voice codec is broken on most current non-steam clients, so the Steam players cannot hear the non steam players and vice versa.

>>8781076
You can still play on their servers though? That's kinda cool.
>>8781068
I dunno man I kind of want to play those games together with my sons when they are old enough. I know what you mean but I also am willing to accept younger people who crave good gameplay.

>>8780782
>No one bunny hops in comp
Dangerous to generalize like this. To speak on every potential scenario you cannot. Like any other tactic, timing is everything.
>comp
League, LAN, In-client

>>8781121
>when they are old enough
I started playing CS 1.5 when I was 19. I am 37 now and have been practically married to CS since. I was a halo guy until I discovered CS. I knew what half-life was but didn't realize the story behind it's multi-player at the time. It was a natural fit though. Mouse and keyboard weren't a foreign concept. Growing up, I had played Wolfenstein, Doom, and Duke Nukem, so I had some Mouse and keyboard chops. I suppose that quality game play is relative in 2022. Modern gaming doesn't have the soul that it once did imo. That applies to MMOFPS a lot I think.
>together with my sons
I think that's a great idea.

>>8780976
DoD:S is still very active. I'd do anything for a port of regular DoD's Flash to source though

>>8781149
I was a quake kid. I grew up on fps I didn't really start playing cs until I was 15 (32 now) but I was well aware of it. I got half life 2 for my 15th birthday and we went straight to playing counter strike source it was so fun taking turns with my friends each playing a round or until we died that was a great birthday. I didn't really play before because I was on dialup and couldn't get my games patched up to the current version to play online. When half life 2 forced me onto steam I was actually able to download everything through the steam client without having to worry about interruptions or dropped connection ruining my download. I had to get another half life cd key because I guess mine was registered on steam already somehow and then I was finally able to get all my goldsrc games patched up to play online. I remember backing up my steam games onto DVD RWs so I didn't have to download all the bullshit again. Finally got rural high speed internet shortly after tf2 came out. It unfortunately was the first valve game that was no longer playable on dialup.
Yah i will always love the goldsrc games, quake 2, and delta force 2 for providing awesome dialup multiplayer experiences for a rural kid like me. I lost my parents last year and I'll be moving home with my wife and 2 sons and I wanted to set up a little LAN area in the basement for playing quake, half life and such with my friends and sons when they are older. I really love those old fps games and I never want to let them die.

Thank you for reading my shitty blog post

>>8781260
Fuck dod source though it's nowhere near as good
>no bri'ish
>no k43
>no mg34
>no fg42
>no bayonets
>no fucking maps
I mean I'll play source but God damn old school dod is just leagues better.

I miss having zero responsibilities and just playing zombie escape all day

>>8781275
lel, not shitty. I was a console kid mostly. I left out Quake. I played that as well, along with the others mentioned but nothing compared to various consoles. Once I discovered CS, it was all over with. However, select retro consoles and various titles will always be special to me. But there is something to be said about the glory one can achieve through Quake or CS. Perhaps esports wouldn't exist without them, or be the same, in the FPS space.

>>8781386
Man I played everything I just loved vidya I had a snes and nes too but I got those from my cousins so I was always a generation behind on the consoles. Playing doom, Duke 3d and quake when I was really young just made me love fps. They were so scary and intense to kid me. Cs is just good fun, I'd love to play a proper match again one day. I used to be really into CSGO I was actually smfc when the que was just filled with hackers too lol. Still old cs is way better. Comfier maps, the mp5, no gay ass skins. I really wanna play some inferno I loved ripping it up on T side even though thats a CT map

>>8780065
>sv_allowbunnyhopping
>a technique so fundamental that it can be turned on or off

>>8780196
It's an older version of CSGO.

Goldsrc, for me, is the peak of PC multiplayer gaming

I miss playing maps like deagle5, awp_map, he_dodgeball, scoutzknivez, rats, cs_assault_upc, cs_crackhouse, de_walmart, etc. The creativity that we saw back then with custom maps was maybe my favorite part of the game. Nowadays games ship with a map pool and that's it generally. CSGO has some mapping, but it's basically dead compared to the glory days.

TFC master race.

>>8782330
It really was the peak

>>8782330
>>8782770
We never have to leave that peak bros. Zoomers don't hate old fps or anything they just haven't been exposed to it to know how fun they are. We need to figure out a way to draw people back to those old games and get them to stick around. I miss clans that had their own servers and would chill on there fucking discord ruined everything.

>>8777941
I hate matchmaking so much. I was horrified when they added it to tf2.

joined a pug server about to start a 5v5

>>8781012
>Misses spray entirely
>Proceeds to throw tantrums and chimp out about how the game is broken, servers don't register hitboxes properly, RNG, etc

lol seen my share of that on my 6 thousand hours of csgo

Both those guys suck by the way, shit movement, shit aim, shit crosshair placement on both of 'em
The terrorist is spray 'n praying his P90 for 10 minutes before he can kill the ct lol

>>8782317
>CS 1.6
>CS:CZ
>CS:S
>CS:GO

Totally different game.

Is CZ campaign worth playing?

>>8783452
I wonder if we could get a /vr/ pug going

>>8784095
It would be dope if we could have a /vr/ vs /v/ game like the old days. I think it would be easy enough if we planned something ahead of time.

>>8776075
>he has DREAMS about counter strike

WHOA THERE YOU'RE REALLY A BIG SUPER FAN OF THAT GAME HAHA

Who is the best terrorist? And why is it leet krew?

>>8784093
eh not really. Some cool console commands that don't work in multiplayer such as wire frame. Other then that, you'll jam right through it. It's not long.

CZ is my fav goldsrc offering actually. It's all the glory of 1.6, just updated ever so slightly. Crouch hopping is smoother. Also de_inferno_cz is sexy as hell. Inferno at dusk is never a bad thing. Street lanterns and shit. It's beautiful.

>>8784095
I'd love to see that.

wouldplay/10

>>8783982
>CS 1.6
goldsrc
>CS:CZ
goldsrc
>CS:S
Source
>CS:GO
Heavily modified Source engine. Similar to Gary's Mod

.>>8778148
I sure wish Tactical Intervention hadn't been F2P and was still available.

>>8780791
kek

>>8783982
The game in the clip is CSGO. I specified that it's an older version because the game has since been updated to look completely different.

half-life more like NO-LIFE.
I'll always remember this game as the time most of my friends, who up to that point were arcadechads, became shut-in nerds playing this shit 24/7.

>>8784205
we still do, fren.

>>8784203
oh you right

I'm playing on a cs server molded for ctf and it's got jetpacks and shit you drop when you die and the other can pick it up its actually so much fun.

>>8784223
yeah some of the CS mods are crazy. They have some skins now. Most are cancer, but some that I've seen are based I think. Granted, in a pub, they're totally fine. In client, totally different story. Want stock ins, simple as.

I have a screen shot of a CS 1.6 MA41 carbine skin that actually doesn't look half bad. It's like a glowing blue wire frame. Other than the skin, the weapons action and recoil are the same. Will obtain off of that system and will post momentarily.

>>8784223
>>8776954
I have both the Carbine and AK. the Carbine isn't wire frame actually. It's some weird transparent blue stripped. Again, their action and recoil was default. I typically hate the skin shit too. But these were pretty cool.

>>8784276

i miss 1.6 like you wouldn't believe

>>8776075
1.6 was the most fun i've ever had in an FPS by far. CS GO is a joke in comparison. No one hosts good custom maps in CSGO, fuck that game and its stupid hit boxes which make zero sense.

>>8784127
Arctic Avenger

>>8784127
Nah it's Arctic Avenger. All the others look like idiots.

I spent most of 1.5 playing starwars2.

>>8786509
underrated

>>8776075
Considering Counter-Strike was intially part of the Half-Life series, is it same to assume Counter-Strike takes place in Half-Life's world (or at least that the first one does)?

Counter-Strike Seven Hour War edition when?

>>8787378
CS Zombies, whatever it was called exactly, albeit shit, had to be at least, spiritually referencing this. Too bad Blue Shift is even better then Axiom Zombie Nation 5.0 shheeiiitt

>>8786754
Baste World Opponent Network player, anon.

>>8784835
You can still play it fren. Right now, there are randies and noobs to own. Everyone shits on South America. In all honesty, they've kept the game alive. North American server still exist. It's just not as common to see a lot of public choices. The list of acceptable options has gone down, but there are still a legit few. There are still pug servers with good players. VAC is still updated for 1.6. and is a lot better now. Invasive, but effective.

>>8786624
My brother loved this map and the variants but I could never get into it

>>8780791
Can you blame them? Their entire existence is cope. No one plays arena shooters, even those who can't shut the fuck up about arena shooters refuse to do anything other than play Q3 with bots once in a blue moon.

>>8779640
>Bunny hopping
>RNG
?

>war simulator
>having to guess which blob of pixels is an enemy because there's no identifying fucking colors or anything but by then you're dead because the enemy has autoaim and cheats like fuck
CS is fucking garbage. This is what helped create the cesspool of modern gaming.

>>8788978
you never played it

>>8776075
Does anyone have CS 1.6 that's Windows 98 compatible?
If so, could you please point me to it?

de_prodigy was the best map personally... hosting it on HLDS to play with pals was truly a nice experience
>unbalanced as fuck
>lots of useless spots
>impossible to execute A without making door/glass breaking noises
and yet this is what actually made it fun

>>8789615
I actually loved the source version of that map too. CSGO left out so many of the best maps cause it's shit.

>>8789341
You have to play 1.5. I dont think you can run steam on win98 anymore. Just look for the CS1.5 mod for half life.

>>8789717
I've definitely played 1.6 on 98 though, I won't be able to access the Steam servers but everything else and private servers should still work.

>>8789857
Well when steam first launched it supported win98 and you were able to on there but as the years went by the client got more and more bloated. I miss classic green steam. That's all I know so I'm not actually much help with your question. But if you do find a 1.6 nosteam let us all know. I know it's 1.5 supported on the won2 network.

>>8789615
Yeah prodigy was a sick map
>>8789682
prodigy not being in GO is just another let down.

>>8776098
>>8776078
This, unironically kill yourself Counter Shitter

>>8790075
It was still the version with the Steam GUI and I remember it also had the "-steam" launch flag, but it didn't actually need Steam to play private servers. I am looking, will report back.

>>8790092
mald samefag

>>8790097
You sure you weren't just playing condition zero? That game has the steam GUI before steam

>>8790135
Definitely 1.6, I do have 1.6 here that works on Windows 10 but that doesn't work on 98. It has the Steam like UI, green though but doesn't need Steam, still can play bots and non-Steam servers though.

>>8790140
Shit sounds interesting, whats it called I want to look into that myself just for setting up home LANs and shit.

>>8790160
I think this client was from the old cs 1.6 warzone website, but I think the site is owned by someone else now and I wouldn't download the link they show there now, but there's reddit threads if you google cs 1.6 warzone that still have the old link. Don't want to directly post it though, otherwise this post might get deleted.

>>8789341
>>8790140
>>8790160
>>8790183
Found it!

https://archive.org/details/counter-strike-1.6-with-pod-bot

This works under 98, from 2004, green Steam UI, no Steam needed and with bots too.
It's on archive.org, so it's technically not piracy either linking it here.

>>8776080
i feel this. that couple year period after orange box came out was magical, i doubt i'll ever love an fps that much again.

>>8788951
pretty sure this is true at least at low tick rates, i dont think you can 100% guarantee you will get a bhop even with perfect execution

>>8789341
>>8790258
Kernel-Ex can run newer versions too like >>8790183 on Windows 98, but then you do need a higher end graphics card for the time, like early-mid 2000's high end.

>>8790258
Thank you anon.

>>8788978
spotted butt mad randy.

>>8790258
based Anon delivers

dust > dust2

>>8790460
dust2

>>8790460
Dust is an unbalanced CT sided mess (still great fun), dust 2 is one of the most perfect maps ever created on the other hand.

>>8790292
It's really hard to do. The Orange box update in CS:S killed bunny hopping. Capping the tic rate at 66 is a a fucking tragedy. Source was actually ok until then.
>66 is the new 100
shenanigans

You can bunny hop still in 1.6, it's just a lot harder now since 1.3, taking a lot of practice, and one employing bunny hopping doesn't gain speed on flat ground as they did prior to 1.3.

>>8790546
Why is it so easy in TFC then

>>8790579
The movement physics are obviously configured differently, when making any given mod, TFC included. I personally have never played TFC, or TF2 for that matter. I cannot speak to performing that technique in that game. I'm only speaking on personal experience with the advent of the Orange box update, from a Counter-Strike Source players perspective, at that time.

>>8790579
Besides, Goldsrc and Source are different game engines. Both are Valve, well goldsrc is a modified Quake World engine, like it or not, But id collaborated with Valve extensively back then. id really helped out Gaben back then.

TFC
>Goldsrc

CS:S
>Source

>>8786719
>>8786509
These guys speak the truth.

>>8780651
Nostalgiafagging as per usual on the board, they act like the game is completely fucked when it is still at the end of the day CS. Not CSS, not CSGO, not Quake but just CS and always will be just CS. Touch it and change it just a bit and it’s fanboys will act like the game is ruined for everyone. Exceptions to this is hacking which DOES ruin it for everyone.

However there are so many steamgroups for just such an occasion that it makes that complaint null and void. Yeah you’ll have to socialize where you didn’t before. Maybe use third party shit to get the ball rolling. If you really love an old game, maybe just accept the fact that you’ll have to jump through some hoops to get that comfiness again instead of complaining over and over about it with no end in sight.

>>8790658
Mine has his sleeves tho...

>>8786624
best map coming through

>>8790703
>Nostalgiafagging as per usual on the board
I mean, the board is /vr/
>Retro
Umm the memo?

Any comment regarding a title that isn't retro is only comparative, given the games format, and not meant to highlight and or to discuss the non-retro title exclusively. If you mean the
>Game is dead
players, then yes, I agree. I'm a
>fanboi
and anything that officially changes can, and has broke certain titles here or there. Some could argue that the nerfing to anything in CS has somehow killed the game. Varying opinions and preferences are everywhere, you know humanity and all.

>Third party tools
wat

You mean IRC, Refresh Lock, etc right?

>Socialize
You don't have to speak, outside of calling spots and the initial pleasantries. When I pub, I don't speak a word. hud_saytext_internal 0 also disables the in game chat, so I don't see peoples banter, bullshit, or them calling me a cheater.. Your post confuses me.

>>8776416
idk some random stoner dude's 24/7 gamegun server on CS:S that would play music in between matches and a lot of unfinished test maps.

>>8790610
Yeah tfc goldsrc 1.6 as well. I'm saying why is bunny hopping so easy in TFC but not in 1.6. I think TFC used default half life movement and just adjusted speed for each class tho.

>>8790658
>>8786509
>>8786719
Pfffft you guys don't even have cool shades. Yes the balaclavas and camo are cool. But it's not khakis, shades and some dualies cool

>>8776416
umm it's like $4.99 on Steam. Derp

>>8790747
The movement physics are configured differently.

>I think TFC used default half life movement and just adjusted speed for each class tho.
Correct

>>8790757
>some dualies cool
They don't reg worth a shit tho

>>8790485
it's a good map but people had milked it way too much... it's all too predictable
i always go for the server that has all but de_dust2 as the current map

>>8790779
yeah theyre total pieces of shit i would never waste the cash on but they still look bad ass hahahaha

>>8790757
>Not alpha enough to wear cold weather gear in the desert
Shut up and install my router, you nerd.

>>8790845
baste

>>8790737
>I mean this board is /vr/
The board is discussion around retro games. Not nostalgiafagging. Very simple and clear difference.

>Varying opinions
Totally agree with you.

>Third Party
I mean stuff like hamachi, private servers, etc.

>Socialize
I mean with people in steam groups/private servers. Not in game.

>>8790092
>>8776078
Dickless trannies couldn't cut it in game, so they cut it off instead. Fuck off, you worthless faggots.

>>8791036
>The board is discussion around retro games. Not nostalgiafagging
Agree ultimately

>Hamachi
I didn't realize people were going to these lengths.

>Private servers
Agree

>Steam groups
I run two different steam groups. I see your point.

>>8779640
>Bullet goes in different place every time
Each of the guns have a FIXED spray pattern. You would know this if you actually played the game, you retarded cum guzzling faggot.
>Bunny hopping
Is for faggots and is a non issue for someone who can aim
>Made up tranny shit
Dilate, you disgusting, morbidly obese tranny abomination

>>8780304
It used to be quakefags, it is now discordtroons shitting on older games that don't pander to them

not retro

>>8791093
umm check when CS came out fren

As in the one in OPs picture, the original...

>>8790258
Ah, PODBot (Ping of Death bot), i remember that. As a 13 year old and still deprived of an internet connection (Europe), it was the only way to play counterstrike because it originally didn't ship with computer controlled enemies. I went to some local guy in my town who was known for selling CD-ROMs with CS and the (POD)bots already included, what can i say, nostalgia

>>8790258
If someone needs or wants, I can upload to catbox or related a ready made .zip file you can just unpack and play without installing.
I installed it, with the map pack and cleaned it up a little. It includes 1.6 and Half-Life, both work under 98 too.

>>8790872
>Not alpha enough to wear cold weather gear in the desert
The sweaty monster

>>8790757
leet crew looks like a goddamn nerd who gets swirlies daily.

>>8790485
>one of the most perfect maps ever created
>50% chance you get awped leaving spawn as CT

>>8792475
What is a smoke grenade anon? Do you even know how to play CS.

>>8792418
Thats why it's so funny. He's the only one who doesn't look like a terrorist

Can we at least all agree SAS is the best CT?

>>8792516
>forced to burn a smoke just to leave spawn
Not a big deal in a pub, but potentially a big deal in comp

>>8792543
It's standard practise at the start of the round in comp it conceals how many guys you send B

>>8792546
The general setup is 1 long, 2 cat, 1 mid, 1 b. B stacking is an eco strat generally, in which case you smoke to conceal. I guess I see the logic in smoking mid every round though.

>>8790258
>with POD Bot
based
when I had only dial-up, instead of playing online, I'd just download a shitload of custom maps and play with bots
no waypoints for a particular map? just made my own

Retarded cs tards

>>8792594
Based

>>8792594
>webms you can hear

I genuinely enjoyed russka. If you do not already know, you can run up ladders sideways and move much faster and launch yourself. In picrel I would run up the ladder sideways and get on top of the fence and dome CTs playing inside the connector area. Good fun.

>>8790757
Phoenix Connection was the best

>>8790757
Elite Crew more like Elite Jew
Don't think we don't know who was funding that operation. Those shades don't come cheap

>>8793545
Russka was a great map

>>8776075
I prefer Counter Strike For Kids

>>8776075
Absolutely based. Half life is the greatest game of all time. Counter strike 1.6 is kino and yes the memories of playing it online in the mid to early 00s when the servers weren't just bots and russians

For me it's the kreedz maps

>>8782721
EXCUSE ME I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION

>>8791070
>FIXED spray pattern
lmao not in CS 1.6, its randomized between a bunch of pattern every time, kys GOnigger

>>8794761
I honestly still have fun playing vanilla deathmatch

>>8793545
underrated map

>>8795407
top kek

>>8791070
>non issue for someone who can aim
True, which is why pro players already know timing it is key.
>is for faggots
Sounds like you're ass mad because you can't dance. It took me six months to get it down perfect. Stop crying. Git Gud.

>>8795426
This

im gay

>>8790292
Just synchronize it with the server :^)

>>8795715
This produces the best, consistent result honestly.

So many maps that made it into the official download release, yet so few have survived into later releases.

Also, the escape gamemode was simply murdered.

>>8795718
Well, the ability to do this seems to depend on the server. There is an actual tickrate that the game operates on, and then there are network communication rates. The default settings are trash, but I recall being able to host my own server and get silky smooth func_vehicles with the right settings.

Quakeworld that GoldSrc is based on processed player physics independently of the server tickrate, so there was no random factor involved with timing.

>>8779334
That depends. Risk management is a skill in and of itself, but it shouldn't be able to trump good execution.

>>8795735
>network communication rates
cl_cmdrate
cl_updaterate
rate

>>8788951
Yes, there's a cvar to enable/disable it
>>8790546
>>8795715
>>8790292
There's nothing difficult about bunnyhopping in CS. They added functions to prevent it, but because of a rounding error you can still sometimes bunnyhop.
Again, there's a cvar to disable the block. There's no skill involve in bunnyhopping in CS.
>>8791070
>Each of the guns have a FIXED spray pattern.
I never argued otherwise you braindamaged faggot. There's a difference between spready and the pattern.
You're actually fucking retarded.

1.0final - 1.6 > go

>>8795968
Crouch hopping off of the keyboard, double tapping duck while running, or moving, not binding duck to mouse wheel, is master tier.

>>8794771
MEDIC!

>>8795968
it doesn't HAVE to take skill, it's fun

>>8781012

If you're spraying... don't listen to the crosshair. Aim lower to compensate. If you weren't a fag you'd just look at this clip, learn and get good

>>8795724
This was a great map. That little village had some good shootouts.

Used to love de_inferno, and cs_office back in the day, simple as

>>8796028
Indeed, having to use retarded bindings just to pull some tricks off is artificial skill.

If you really want bhopping to be a legit skill, pull it off using buttons only.
As this game is competitive in nature, they really should just even the playing field and make repetitive jumping automatic.

>>8795840
Rate is just bandwidth, I believe. It only seems to matter when the traffic is high.

Why did versions before 1.6 have two different arm models? Most were extremely veiny, but the knife looked a lot more natural.

>>8797818
I dont know but the 1.5 knife was superior to the 1.6 knife.

>>8797813
Valve removed buffered jumps from every single game they've made and its absolutely retarded. It's why people bind jump to their mousewheel.
It was fine when you could script bunnyhopping using aliases, but they've even removed that which has completely broken HLDM.

>>8776075
How did you guys manage to play this back in the day? Dial-up was so bad; I didn't start using the Internet until around 2003.

>>8798071
My family upgraded to "high speed" internet pretty early, so I didn't have to suffer through dial up for very long. Getting my dad to buy more RAM for the computer so I could play in bigger servers was another issue.

>>8798118
>Getting my dad to buy more RAM for the computer so I could play in bigger servers was another issue.
That struggle was real. Now, We can buy our own damn RAM, kek.

>>8797813
>having to use retarded bindings just to pull some tricks off is artificial skill
Absolutely. Its stands to reason that is one of the factors that prompted leagues
>ESEA
>CEVO
>ESL
>CAL
to designate such a binding as illegal. However they allowed the technique if done organically, off of the keyboard. There were also other binds that were illegal, but in the case of crouch hopping, you weren't allowed to bind duck to mouse wheel, in client. This is why it's so cringe when some server admins of today, kick or ban if they see someone dancing. If they impose rules along those lines, telling someone what buttons they can or cannot press on their keyboards, then their server should be configured to allow them to pull any players config, to see for themselves if illegal binds are present or not. Why not be in-line with league rules, even if it's a public server. That seems consistent to me.

>>8798071
Wtf this game actually worked fine on dialup servers with less than 200 ping were awesome. If you didn't have that luxury than you were SOL I had dialup until like 2007 and even CSS ran good on it but by then a lot of faggots would kick you for high ping cause they thought that was the reason they died not that they just suck at cs.

>>8798071
Could get around 200 ping on 56k which is fine, once you get above 250 it starts to get shot. Remember before CS when I think we had a shitty 33.6K internal modem trying to play Duke3D via TEN, and the ayyy lmao mascot had eye colours for latency and mine were always red

Reasons why cs suck.
>The bullets are rng.
>They always go in different spots
>What you see on your screen, is completely different that what the other player actually saw.
>If you are behind a wall it shows that your gun is above the wall, or you can shoot over the wall if your crosshair is above the wall.
>Meaning your chest and gun should be above the wall.
>But the only thing other players can see is a head.
Something really is unfair and fundamentally wrong with cs. But retards defend it saying it takes skill.
Then you cant move while you shoot. But those one people that side step dance get away with it.
I have noticed. What one person sees is different than what actually happens. If you come around a corner and someone has you in a sniper scope they can see your whole body. But if you watch a pov of the other player. Its like you cant see the other person. Or your body really wasnt exposed.

>>8798328
top level cope

>>8798328
Poker is random yet skilled people are still able to figure it out and win more than people who are not skilled

The only way to play cs

8798328
>the samefag schizo still at it
thanks for bumping the thread i guess

>>8776075

Something feels so comfy about 1.6 compared to other versions of CS.

>>8798620
based af

>>8798620
Soul. Comf level maximum

>>8798620
Huh? It doesn't even have the vehicle maps tho. That was sovl

>>8798668
Not integral to the overall game play experience enough. Only a small percentage of players would agree and/or remember this shit. Minh Gooseman Le, the co-creator of CS, brought back vehicle levels in his game Tactical Intervention. They were ok. But far from my favorite part of that game, or CS for that matter. Sadly, that game is no longer available, for the time being.

>>8798668
>as_oilrig
Soul level maximum

>>8782660
add in fy_iceworld and pool_day to complete my comfy CS experience

>>8798712
fight yard for life. The absolute best, fastest, peak performance inducing format. My favorite. Mine are fy_snow, fy_snow_orange, and fy_iceworld2k.

>>8776075
I still play it when I'm bored, there are some classic servers running in east europe

>>8797819
it really was

I did not realize how autistic quakefags are until this thread

>>8799294
Both titles are great. Both are responsible for shaping mmofps esports. Both communities are equally passionate. Goldsrc is a modified Quakeworld engine after all. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Not for me at least.

>>8799384
Same here brother
Love me quake
Love me af life
Simple as.

>>8799397
based

>>8799294
>autistic
No shame here.

>>8791036
>nostalgiafagging
Peak Sovl Tho

>>8799294
They are really bad

Counter strike and quake are brothers. CS spawned from action quake 2.

>>8794750
based

>>8799837
take me back to walmart 24/7

I used to stay up late with 5 or 6 friends to play 1.6. One of us had pretty good internet and PC, so he created a server and we would talk using Skype. We would keep playing until there was only 3 or 4 of us remaining. Once we got tired of 1.6 we started playing UT '99. Then everyone got better PCs but me, so they all shifted to Payday 2 while I played TF2 alone.

CS:S was different, but it was still fun as fuck to play casually, and the different multiplayer mods (such as zombie escape) were superb.
However, I stopped watching the pro scene once they switched away from the original CS.

>>8799837
the best map

>>8799837
I was 20-0 on walmart back in 2004 on the Appalachian State University Gaming Club CS server and they had a mod installed that when you were autoed for back your score was doubled, so I was 40-0 or 40-1 (I dont remember if it killed you or not during switch). Good fucking times. I want to go back like you wouldnt believe.

>>8782721
these are the old models? I remember spy and sniper looking different

>>8776075
Nah, you miss being young.
You can still play CS

>>8801301
I play and have played since I was 19, 37 now. I don't play to feel young though. I play because quality game play, that actually takes skill, is hard to find. More as a team, it takes skills to collaborate and execute as five. CSGO is a joke. Vanilla physics with no evolutionary movement potential. Over-emphasis on aesthetic crap such as skins. Weapons feel as if they're not firing is a consistent fashion, to other versions of CS. They feel bland, and have been nerfed too many times.

I need help right fucking now.
CS 1.6 WaRzOnE client, worked flawlessly for me on many pcs. On this one from which I'm writing, it simply shows no servers, says "no master server". I let all the game files through the firewall.
Looking online, it seems I need to add a masterservers file to platform/config, which I tried with many different masterservers.vdf files, but none fucking worked.
Anyone else had this issue? Please help.

>>8802006
Gotta agree. CS 1.6 is the tetris of team shooters, imho. About it's flaws, I'd say the most important one is how many of the weapons are irrelevant. Some people hate wallbanging, but I like it cause it does actually require skill.
Idk what's up with the number of servers in the US, but here in the Balkans the game is still super popular and there are plenty of pubs where people recognize each other and there's plenty of banter. Awesome game, been playing it basically since I was 9, 27 now.
What I do miss is LAN play at internet cafes, but I miss that in general, not only for CS, but DotA as well, and other games.
One of the best things about it is you can play a couple of rounds or you can sit down for the whole evening and shoot your heart out. Meanwhile if you fire up Civ or some RTS, TBS it's basically a second job.

I think the fucking scamdemic "gReAt ReSeT" is one reason behind the drop in players on goldsrc games. Now hear me out, before this fucking bullshit happened you could easily go to a LAN center and there would be tons of other people there all playing CS on the cafes public server which would draw in other players playing from home. This fucking bullshit had to kill small business to give more power to Amazon and the massive corporations so they can eventually get everyone on subscription based games cause you will own nothing and you will be happy etc etc.

>>8803816
In all fairness, with the rise of consumer broadband cable internet connections in the early 2000's, around 2008 is when the PC gaming clubs started shutting where I'm at. In general, I know they've been closing for years now, given how many players have decent systems and internet connection now. I'm sure covid didn't help the last remnants of LAN centers remaining. But they've been closing for years now. Besides, player bases grow up or move on. CS players are different in that, most of us grew up with CS whether directly or indirectly.

>>8802903
>9, 27 now
Based. I probably wont stop playing hardmode until my hands can't do it anymore, or my reaction subsides.

>>8804769
Well I've always had a decent computer at home but enjoyed going to the Lan Cafe to game with my buds

>>8804951
For sure but some anons don't have friends though.

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