/vr/ - Retro Games

It died because a certain mongrel with an absent father kept annoying everyone else about how games everyone likes are "bad".

>shift gears at the top end of the band with sim damage on
>damage indicator comes up

GODDAMMIT, I AM JUST TRYING TO GET THE MOST OUT OF MY CURRENT GEAR, QUIT FUCKING UP MY CAR.

>Driving Mission 34
This is somewhat impossible for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiN1a8YkwPY&t

>>8743372
The 2 minute wait before starting is such bullshit. They couldn't just begin the mission 2 minutes in?

Nothing to post?

>>8743268
For me, it's the GT3 regulations

>>8744172
one of my favorite things about GT3 is the gameshark code that just multiples a cars horsepower by 100 so you can do silly shit like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2csywV-odvQ

>>8743268
>el capitan 200 mi . did this one with impreza touring car
>minolta 88cv
>win gt world championship
recently i did some nurburgring in the auto union. here's my best lap time encourage others to post as well

>>8744214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnpcQQET12I
Some crazy shit on GT4

>>8743268
Sports car gt, cart precision racing and I heard richard burns rally was really good.
Viper racing was good and it had heaps of car mods, the damage model is good in that you could crunch into a ball and still drive.

The 80's arcade game hard driven has surprisingly good physics too.

GT's shift suggestion feature is better than the driving line, IMO.

It still gives you cues to tell you want to start braking and such but you don't have to just follow a line on the ground, you can actually learn the turns and perfect the line yourself.

It's a little conservative (I notice sometimes it suggests a lower gear than I'd want to be in to take a turn) but otherwise it's a better way of teaching players how to navigate a course than the driving line.

>>8744993
I think for people starting out the lines help more. Knowing your turn in point is more useful, what gear you should be in comes pretty quickly given you obviously have to brake to hit the line, and braking means downshifts.

>>8744172
yup.

the menu sound is still used in many a YouTube video.

Get an FFB wheel for it, completely worth it

GT6 still has some of the old menu themes from GT4. Nostalgic.

>Gran Turismo 3
>Japan Championship in Amateur League
>Field only consists of lightly modified japanese cars
>Super Speedway what an original name is on the championship schedule
>Begin taking different cars there and pit them against the jap cars
It's become an addiction for me because I have NASCAR fever. And when a sumbitch gets in my way on an oval I rattle their cage

>>8743268
>I have never found a car that can win the Gran Turismo World Championship
Toyota Minolta did it for me

>>8743268
I miss /vroom/
Pretty sure I used the Minolta Toyota 88cv to complete the gt world championship

>>8743275
Never forget.

>>8745647
oh yeah now I remember
apparently you aren't allowed to like anything because every game sucks

>>8745647
Burnout 3 is still a great game though.

>>8745656
>>8745686
That wasn't the issue.

The soundtrack was the issue, to such an extent that the Xbox version is the only playable version in his opinion.

>>8745686
Burnout 3 is an amazing game
But if someone tells me they hate it I don't care i'm still gonna play it
>>8745694
Imagine being so angry about something that doesn't affect the gameplay
If you don't like the soundtrack just mute it lole

>>8745797
anyway lets not derail the thread with this conversation
Lets actually talk about games

>>8745805
Yes, this is derailing to a silly extent.

The Magnetic Fields games were great rally sims.

>>8745383
>different cars
Like every car or specific ones?

>>8746118
Glad you asked. To start off, I pick street-legal cars only. From there I change the oil on all cars and then test each one at Super Speedway on Free Run mode. Say for example I pick the Lan Evo 4. What my intentions are is to get familiar with the car in its stock form (with all assists off), then race it in the aforementioned championship. If it isn't competitive, I start modifying it one part at a time, starting with the transmission. I swap out the factory trans for a customizable one for adjustable gear ratios. I then race again and if I lose, I keep on modifying it till it eventually is competitive. After that I move onto another car and repeat the process with another car.

>>8746183
Autistic for sure but you be you you do seem to have issues with repeating phrases; who do ya think you are, Jacob Two-Two

>>8746183
You do this in other Gran Turismo titles?

>>8746382
No. But on the topic of ovals, why didn't Polyphony make them smaller and smaller until GT5? GT1 had Test Course, GT2 had Super Speedway, but why didn't GT3 get a half-mile oval? I would think the Colosseum at Rome would've been the best choice to have a racetrack there since Gran Turismo is no stranger to fictional racetracks, but no, they don't make it. Then GT4 comes along and PD doesn't even provide the full oval layout for Beginner Course let alone an original quarter-mile oval. All you get is a roval because of that damn chicane in the Beginner Course that completely breaks the flow.

>>8746437
never forget GT3 professional league vitz race 10 laps at TEST COURSE

>>8746796
>PROFESSIONAL VITZ CUP
>10 MOTHERFUCKING LAPS OF SHEER BOREDOM ON A GIANT OVAL INSTEAD OF AT SUPER SPEEDWAY OR ANY OTHER TRACK
>A 6 CAR FIELD
>IS A POINTS RACE SO YOU BETTER TUNE THAT MEMEY PINK VITZ TO BE FAST LIKE ASS LIKE YOU'RE BILL ELLIOTT SO THE PACK CAN'T CATCH YOU OR AT LEAST BE ABLE TO STAY WITH THE PACK
>ALSO COUNTS TOWARDS 100% COMPLETION
>WIN THE RACE AT ALL COSTS
>HARD TO DO WHEN SAID EVENT IS BORING
WTF WAS POLYPHONY ON DURING THE MAKING OF THIS CHAMPIONSHIP!?

>>8746861
Someone at polyphony was laughing their ass off at the idea of forcing players to drive slow cars around a giant oval
There was even a 25 lap race in the Formula GT championship

>>8746861
If it was supposed to be a joke from the devs, I ain't laughing.

According to the gran turismo wiki test course was used in 16 different championships in GT3
Also does anyone else remember GT4 dream car championship 27 laps at BEGINNER COURSE

>>8746907
Most likely has to be. Especially since >8746906 mentioned that there is a 25 lap race at that track with the F1 cars. Granted they're way faster than the Vitz, but it's rather pointless since Super Speedway is on the F1 schedule to mimick Indy/C.A.R.T. on ovals. Why no one at Polyphony didn't suggest to create a half-mile oval instead of reusing Test Course and Super Speedway for Simulation Mode confounds me. Yes I know the team's concerns were on other things like the physics, car selection and accuracy, progression, and graphical fidelity, but you'd think at least someone would've said something about making a half-mile oval so as to avoid reusing the other 2 tracks.

Been kind of interested in getting into the GT series, but I'll be brutally honest. I just want a racing game that mostly takes place in a urban setting. They're not good but I loved the Tokyo Xtreme Racer games for this reason. You just drove around Tokyo and upgraded your car.

>>8746917
For me, that would've been awesome. But because of the stupid chicane/bus stop that Beginner Course has, it sucks.

>>8746973
The Beginner Course 27 laps I mean, had it not featured a bus stop.

My shitty AE86 in Gran Turismo 3 can't win races.

>>8746981
Have you tried using Shingo tactics?

>>8746973
If you want nascar I think gran turismo might be the wrong game to play

>>8746996
I like NASCAR as much as the next guy, but I like racing actual street cars like the RX7 FD or the Skyline GTR from time to time. You're right about Gran Turismo not being the best oval simulator, but at least it (along with other Non-NASCAR games) fulfills my fantasy of racing other types of cars(that I'll never own nor drive) on ovals. NASCAR will only go so far for me.

Good times...
https://youtu.be/Y59ePs5A288

>>8746994
Anon, I believe Trueno anon may or not be looking for a way to win cleanly. Isn't Gran Turismo supposed to teach one how to properly approach apexes and recognize braking zones, not being filthy?

>>8743268
The Mazda 787B Black Edition won me the GT World Championship. It was no easy task but it got the job done.

>>8743282
can relate
unrelated note but what do you guys think of SCAR and evolution gt?

Pretty slow day apparently

>>8747657
Is this a sim racer? I thought it was more of a forerunner for the GRID games.

>>8744993
But judging braking point is arguably harder that choosing a line. It's a nice safety measure though. Personally I don't use either but I would tolerate racing line with no recommended speed indication.

>>8749624
you are right since they are simcades(3 of the games mentioned) but honestly i kind of wanted to talk about them either way, should have probably put a spoiler on it all

>>8743268
it's not about the car so much as the driver

I can't remember what I beat it with, maybe a ruf ctr

>>8749961
oh wait, i'm thinking of the wrong championship
like >>8747327 I also beat it with the 787B

it's slow compared to the other le mans cars, but doable with good driving

>>8749694
I would too but no such thing exists.

>>8747327
The Black Le Mans racecars look badass. The TS020 is my favorite of the 4.

Must be Gran Turismo month for me. I bought GT5 and 6 earlier this week and today I picked up GT1 at a garage sale.

>>8743268
Unironically upgrade to /v/, a VR headset, cheap one like a Quest 2 and a cheapish logitech Wheel/pedals+Stick will give you an amazing experience. Use proper headphones tho.

>>8751707
No.

Spreadsheeting the entirety of the Gran Turismo 2 car selection before beginning what's hopefully going to be my first 100% playthrough, I've also looked up the opponent specs for every race and set suitable tighter horsepower limits for myself, AMA.

>>8751761
>autism
>Germany
everything is exactly as it should be

>>8751781
It's practically my favorite video game, for its most meaningful playthrough I'm not going to take any chances on creating the most enjoyable experience possible which the spreadsheets are already part of.

*drifting through your thread like a chad*

>>8751979
Does choosing a car even make a difference, or do they all handle the same?

>>8752404
They have different stats and they handle differently

GT4 won
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRlsPa5we7E

bump

>>8753008
>understeers in your path

>Wipeout never got a sim mode
I cri

bump

Hello faggots

>>8746861
From my memory of 100% gt3, the professional Vitz races stood out as the absolute worst.

>>8751979
TURNIN AND SPINNIN AND SPINNIN AND TURNIN OH!
THIS IS PARADISE THIS IS VERY NICE!

>>8743268
What's the best wheel for Gran Autismo 4? I've had enough playing with a gamepad, pressure-sensitive buttons suck ass.

>>8755445
>pressure-sensitive buttons suck ass
Why don't you just use an Xbox controller and re-calibrate the trigger dead zones?

>>8751761
Love the effort anon, I also like to make overly complicated spreadsheets for GT games

bump

To this day I fawn over SSR5 Wet.

>>8743282
>over-rev and slam into the next gear before the revs drop
>wonder why your car is fucked up

what's a good way to pick up manual transmission in these games? the only game i don't play in auto rn is Initial D

>>8757068
>what's a good way to pick up manual transmission in these games
...you play them in manual

Only time I ever busted my ass when it came to acing all the license tests in a GT game was GT3's rally license. The prize car? Pic related. So much worth.

When I first played Gran Turismo as a kid, for some reason, I saw the R34 and Supra as the Ryu and Ken of GT.

>>8757612
And then you end up getting it a 2nd time by beating the reverse variation of >>8756714

And fun fact, if you look closely at the event wallpapers for both wet races, there's a bit of filler text that reads:
>:copyright: 1999 Psygnosis Ltd. Developed by Studio 33 (UK) Ltd. Psygnosis and the Psygnosis logo are :tm: or :registered: of Psygnosis Ltd. An official product of the FIA Formula One World Championship. Licensed by Formula One Administration Ltd.

>>8756714
Thoughts on Tsukuba Wet

>>8745694
>>8745797
>>8745656
>>8745647

b3 is decent but overrated, not that it matters when you're all posing shit players anyway as proven by any competitions we ever have.

yes the soundtrack is appalling, yes of course soundtracks add to games, no muting is not a good solution you absolute fucktard.

you're all such embarrassing collectordads who clearly don't play any of these games at all, absolute state.

>>8759038
/vroom/ is dead, Cee. It's not coming back.

my fav gran turismo btw, just 100% it this week. Nice straight to the point format, perfect length, lacks a couple tracks id like but completing the races gives you 10 million save file to use in gt3

>>8759053
not as dead as guscord LOL

>>8759058
No idea what guscord is.

>>8759038

>>8744172
Whose idea was it to have medium tires only last for 2 laps?

>>8759054
Same here, but you posted the wrong version. This is the definitive version.

>>8759157
Goodyear

>>8756714
>>8758996
i just wish there was more

>>8759157
Pilelli

>>8756714
ssr5 is the most kino GT track

>>8756752
I'm not hitting the rev limiter.

Where exactly is the "safe spot" to shift that's still higher than when auto would force me to shift but before the point where I'm starting to chew up the transmission?

bump

>>8758996
Better question: Why no SSR11 Wet in GT3?

Decided to emulate GT4 but the slow menu transitions and loading times are killing me. Also that I have to watch those 10s cinematics before each race.

>>8764324
Dude, your toggle frame limiter button?

>>8745634
holy fuck is this really Gran Turismo 4?

>>8743268
What's the best config on GT4 for PCSX2? Do you use the 1080i option ingame?

>>8764324
For me the dumbest thing about GT4 is how if you buy a new part and install it right away you have to wait for a few seconds for them to be "installed" but if you buy the parts and put them on in the settings menu it's instant
Just making you wait a while for no reason

>>8764720
idk about other configs but use 480p in game since its actual progressive scan it will look way cleaner in races and pcsx2 hardware scaling can make it 4k anyway

>>8764835
It's about building the anticipation.

Is this a good reaching wheel stand or is it not worth the money vs other options? It's all over eBay for about 72 USD with free shipping.

>>8764835
Are you sure that's not the progress bar for saving? It does the same thing if you get a new car.

>>8765337
What kind of chair do you use with this?
Desk chair all have wheels so it must be a bitch to press the pedals, no?

>>8765337
It's a fairly mediocre wheel stand, but it'll be fine for lower end wheels. If you have the space, building your own rig out of construction lumber will cost you a little less and be a lot sturdier.

>>8766253
Wheel stands and any other rig without a chair can be fixed by adding some bracing or a ratchet strap to your chair wheels or gas cylinder.

>>8766263
I see, thanks!

>>8749624
Its much more of a sim racer than GT4 if you enable simulation driving mode.
It has great damage model, the cars have realistic grip and suspension work, I loved how the car creaked during turns or how damaged fender would rub on a tire during turns until the tire would just blew up.
Tons of cars and tracks and the best V8 season you can imagine in gaming ever, not even rFactor V8 mods did it for me.

>>8759195
why is it? i thought the pal one was the last and most up to date?

>>8768062
The Hong Kong one is better than the PAL one because it's in 60hz but still retains English. Easily identifiable by the Ford GT cover but acquiring one how lucky you get in your region, if we don't count just paying your way to it on ebay.

>>8768303
>A Chinese/English NTSC version was released in the Southeast Asia on July 25,[1] adding 30 cars to the 2001 Tokyo version released earlier in this area.

dayum fair enough.


is gt 4 prologue worth it? or just go straight to 4?

>>8768535
If you like GT3 physics better than GT4's dog shit understeer mud driving, then play GT3, GT Concept, and GT4 Prologue.

Supposedly beat everything in realism department on release including GT4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlcwpqkgTZo

Another thing is Richard Burns Rally which even now feels better than Dirt 2.0
I have no idea how they managed to get physics so fucking good its unbeatable till this day.

>>8743282
I liked the default menu and racing music in the first forza. Too bad none of the future games returned to the rock/metal themes.

>>8769585
Because physics hasn't really advanced in 20 years. It's a lot more profitable to spend your money on more car models than accurate recreations, and aims for "realism" often become bloated and buggy due to the increased computational load. It's the same reason pinball simulation peaked with timeshock over 20 years ago.

Anyone else playing Racing Battle C1?
I just reached rank B with a Toyota MR2 G Super Charger and a Lancer Evo VI GSR but I'm getting my ass handed during the RP battle on Tsukuba. I haven't unlocked a lot of parts on the MR2 but the Evo is quite nicely modified.
Should I buy a new car for a better speed/grip setup? I still have one space left in the stock garage