/vr/ - Retro Games

PS2 games will still look like shit but not as shit as composite.

PS2 is supposed to be played on a CRT through component cables. Let me say it again: PS2, CRT, component cables.
So you didn't fuck up by buying the cables but you're only halfway there.

>>8762809
You didn't fuck up provided you didn't have component cables before. Unless you did, then you paid 35 dollars for no benefit. Also these go in and out of stock, but they'll always be around.

>>8762818
this. it looks amazing. better than any system that generation

>>8762823
Having played Dreamcast via VGA, Xbox via component cables, and Gamecube games through a Wii with component cables, I really can't cosign this. It is in fourth, maybe third place only ahead of the Dreamcast.

>>8762818
based

>>8762839
i have a multiconsole cable i use with both my wii and ps2 and the ps2 is far, far sharper, which i prefer. i do want to get proper good xbox component cables someday... ive only ever had the real shitty ones.

>>8762821
OP here again, i specifically bought these component cables because i read online that the cheap chink made ones were garbage/had poor image quality.

Is component really that much of a difference? The CRT I have hooked up right now is a 27-inch Panasonic that has composite. I do have a similarly sized CRT in my garage that has component though, but it still only does 480i. I'm guessing colors will be a little better, but I don't think it'd be much sharper if it's not doing progressive

>>8762916
Component is noticeably sharper than composite, has better colors and doesn't have a dot-crawl effect.

>>8762941
*this is a picture demonstrating dot-crawl. Notice the messy outline around Mario.

>>8762916
Composite never should've existed. We should've gone from RF straight to RGB SCART

>>8762809
Not badly at all, OEM component cables are more expensive than the HD Retrovision ones, and buying cheap off-brand ones give you horrible audio hiss. I know from doing it myself and then returning the off-brand ones to buy these, really good purchase although calling it "HD" is pretty bullshit marketing.

>>8762916
composite to component is a much larger difference than 480i component to 480p component, its a huge deal.

image is much sharper and cleaner and the colors are a lot more defined, composite is honestly horrible in comparison and its a wonder why it was the standard for so long.

>>8762865
I've seen /vr/ posters say there's little difference to the naked eye and I can confirm it's not even noticeable unless your hyper autistic like MyLifeInGayming. I have the official PS2 and a basic chink brand component cables don't notice a difference.

>>8762916
Granted if you're lucky to have a CRT and vidya that supports 480p, it looks noticeably sharper and colorful compared to composite, Xbox especially. Not sure if it's due to the AV converter box's magic, but I was pretty surprised with the image quality nonetheless when playing Halo.

>>8762865
Ok well you bought them anon. Compare your cables with the retrovision ones and see if you can tell the difference. Don't know why you need us to tell you if they're better when you can just check if they're better.

>>8763001
The main reason to get quality cables is the audio, not video. The grounding on cheap cables is usually loose and leads to a noticeable hiss.

Also component is far sharper than composite even if your TV/game doesn't support 480p. In fact even if you can get your hands on an EDTV CRT I wouldn't ever recommend it, they all have noticeable input lag. One of the best parts about having a CRT is the lagless experience.

no you didnt fuck up, its fine, dont listen to the autists that came in just to tell you to invest even more money on more complicated setups that you wont even care about

>>8762809
It’ll look ok, depending on the game, if you can force 480p on GSM they’ll look better
However I would at least recommend an upscale if you plan on using an LCD

>>8763906
What upscaller do you recomend? I heard that the portta one is pretty good

>>8762818
I really regret giving away not one, but two 20" CRTs when I bought the PS3. Now I want to play my PS2 again and only have an old LCD TV.

>>8763851
At least skim the thread before you make a stupid post. Nobody's advising OP to blow more money on a setup.

>>8764192
The good thing is that free CRTs are super easy to find on fb marketplace. Might take a week or two of searching to find one that supports component input.

>>8762916
Both component and s-video are much, much sharper than composite. Colors are better too, but that's secondary to clarity.

>>8762809
Why not just buy official cables for that price?

I never understood the point of these HD retrovision cables. They're meant to be the "cheaper" alternative to official PS2 cables but they still sell them for like fucking 50$. What they should really be making is some Xbox and Gamecube component cables.

>>8762916
The jump from composite to component is night and day. The picture is literally 3x as clear as composite. If you can enable progressive scan too it'll seriously just look like an HDMI connection but you'll still see the difference immediately without it.

>>8764806
They’re not meant to be a cheaper alternative
They’re supposed to allow Americans to use the RGB line with component
They’re also better shielded and likely the highest quality you can buy

>>8765715
>They’re supposed to allow Americans to use the RGB line with component
Is there a reason for that when it already supports component? Does it support the PS1 also?

>>8762818
>>8762823
PS2 looks like SHIT via component. I DARE you to tell me Final Faggot X actually looks good. Only something like 10% of PS2 games supports 480P. Now Guilty Gear, that looks great, but that actually supports 480P. For component, it's the worst system of that generation.

>>8765715
the monstercable and rocketfish cables already pissed all over oem cables

>>8765747
Can’t say for sure, you’d have to check what it says but I’m pretty sure all RGB consoles can use retrovisions component cables
>>8765767
Sure but I thought these were easier to source aren’t they?

>>8765931
I checked the site and it didn't say anything about RGB for those cables. I think they just made 3rd party cables because they already have the means to do so.

>>8765945
?
I thought their whole thing was transcoding RGB to component for the American audience

>>8765952
That was true for their genesis and snes cables. They just make cables, man.

Just get a Wii and component cables. Bam, now you're playing every 2D system (NES SNES Genesis GBA etc.), Gamecube, and Wii with top tier video output.

>>8766004
>tfw no component tv
I would like at least a 17" or a 20" max, but just finding one in my area outside of Houston is tough.

>>8766012
That's a bit small, I use a 20 for TATE games

>>8766004
Wii's component output is a little soft (yes in 240p, not 480i).
I bought those HD Retrovision cables and switched between the Wii and Genesis and the Genesis was so sharp it could cut my eyes.
I still use the Wii out of convenience, but that was my experiance.

>>8766014
My only option now is a 13" Toshiba.

>>8766023
The Genesis component cables are way too expensive for a 16-bit system regardless of how much I love it, so I've never tested them. Interesting to hear

>>8762809
Shoulda just got chinese clone component cables for a tenner on eBay/Amazon. Literally same shit cheaper price.

>>8766102
>Literally same shit
they really aren't

If you can use a soldering iron and have an old console AV connector to hack up, the oem xbox360 component cables that shitted with every platinum system are high quality and include a composite video line for c-sync.

>>8762942
Thanks for the pic. Didn't know what it was before.

What's the consensus on the Nintendo multi out version of this?

>>8766985
HD Retrovision are competent cable makers but I only buy their cables for consoles with native component output. I hear their cables with transcoders are fine but I prefer to use a separate transcoder and SCART cables for RGB output consoles.

>>8765761
4chan is an 18+ website

>>8765761
the main draw of component video is not progressive scan, it is the signal having more bandwidth which improves quality at any resolution.

Here in the UK component wasn't really a common input on CRT. We had the red, white and yellow composite, rf and scart (which could carry composite or RGB).

Thinking I could get a superior display playing PS2 on my flatscreen Bravia 42" HDTV I bought official PS3 component cables and hooked it up. Boy was I wrong. I tested Valkyrie Profile and other games versus RGB scart on a 32" Sony wega CRT and CRT wins hands down. PS2 just has muddier colours on a flatscreen modern TV. I also have the builtin subwoofer on the wega as a nice bonus.

>>8766829
I've thought about hacking these up to make a cable for the original Xbox, but I like actually using them with the 360.

>>8765761
Component improves 480i image quality too retard.