/vr/ - Retro Games

>now
Were you frozen in the late 90s?

I emulate everything up to 6th gen, I would emulate 7th if my PC could handle it. Games should be played and enjoyed, not "collected" like some faberge egg

>>8732779
I am 34 and haven't played much retro video games the last 10 years or so. I work a lot and have just been playing CS, WoW, TF2 and various newish video games the past decade or so. I'm trying to go back and play some 4th and 5th gen games on original hardware and it just feels like I am buying artifical collectors items rather than video games.

>>8732776
AVGN ruined a lot, everyone wanted to be a Jr. version of him by hoarding junk and displaying it on their walls. Karens read articles like 15 NINTENDO GAMES EVERYONE GREW UP WITH THAT ARE WORTH A FORTUNE TODAY! leading to "I know what I have" listings flooding resale sites. People who grew up with SNES, etc. now being grown, childless adults with disposable income who want to fill that hole with nostalgia.

>>8732776
because theres been a big switch in the 2010s where every normie wanted to sell/buy retro stuff, and they all started to view retro gaming has costy "Vintage" bs

>>8732812
These. The 2nd wasn't an issue because no one bought their overpriced garbage but then the 3rd appeared.

Covid tax

>>8732776
Everything used to be chill as fuck when people just bought what they wanted to play and only fucknuts went in with the "I wanna collect" mentality. Then Tubers got involved and montized the market and made "retro gaming" trendy. This spawned even more twats that wanted to cash in on the hobby that started the hidden gem/rare game bandwagon. All while in the background online self listing sites became the norm which destroyed garage sells, flea markets, pawn shops, and thrift stores.

Then the COVID shit happened and made things even worse.

>>8732776
Retro game collection has been a fucking nightmare world since roughly 2008.

>>8732801
>m trying to go back and play some 4th and 5th gen games on original hardware
You and everyone else. You are actually the reason for all this bullshit.

I've been emulating since the late 90's. Literally no shame in it at all. I even sold some old games I had to collectors on eBay 10 years go. Its so stupid.

I'll give you the hot tip; buy a CRT TV, buy oldish computer parts with an apu and motherboard that supports component converters, buy a128gig ssd + 1tb HDD, 1 or a few replica OE similar controllers (8bitdo prefferavly wired), and install retroarch and download full ROM torrents for all systems you want. Boom, you just saved money, space, and time all while getting your nostalgia itch and not having to deal with faggot price gouging scalpers.

>>8732850
Retro being a "trend" was a fucking mistake.

>>8732873
So the only people who can play original hardware are people who have already been doing so?

>>8732776
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't just emulate everything. If I could use emulators back in the 90s instead of cartridges I definitely would. Emulators are modern miracles. Easy access to basically any game you can think of any time you want regardless of the system it was originally on.

Been an emuchad ever since I discovered GENS and ZSNES.

>>8732776
just say to seller: I would not pay more than 5$ per game.

>MFW been emulating since 98

>>8732921
>emuchad
btfo /vr/gin

>>8732909
Gatekeepers gonna gatekeep.

>>8732927
2003 here

>>8732921
snes9x is pretty good too

unless you're getting super rare games and an entire library, what's the issue here? games go for like €10 and maybe up to €30 if they're a bit sought after and with a box

>>8732927
Thanks shitman!

>>8732812
AVGN's peak of popularity was over a decade ago whereas prices have literally doubled since just pre-covid

>>8733035
This, and the repro market is always a thing. Paying $20 for a game that fetches $300 on eBay is a gratifying experience. Most people won't give a fuck if you own a repro - except for the most autistic of autists, who don't deserve your respect anyway.

>>8733057
>except for the most autistic of autists, who don't deserve your respect anyway.
i'm fine with repros too, as long as they don't look like the real deal. i like my originals and i don't want copies.
people should at least mark them

>>8732801
>I've been disconnected from a fast growing scene for 10 years, why is everything different
I hope I'm not retarded when I turn 34

>>8732776
Because with time, the good games have been thoroughly separated from the average/bad ones. This very minute, you can go to any yard sale, garage sale or retro game store and get a copy of Silent Service or Top Gun for five bucks. But everybody wants the A+ tier experiences, which have been price gouged for years now.

The true redpill is original console + CRT + flashcarts

>>8733065
You're already retarded so it doesn't look good for you.

>>8732776

If you just want to play, why not emulate or get a flash cartridge?

>>8733117
Have some faith in the youth, middle aged anon. We're the inheritors of your earth after all, you leave it as we take it.

>>8732880
>>8732921
>>8732927
>>8733031
Now that's what I call samefagging.

If an asset can only appreciate you'd be an idiot not to buy as much of as you can't.

The same reason people buy bitcoin. When supply of an asset is dwindling and demand stays the same (or doesn't decrease fast enough to match) you'd be an idiot not to buy as much as you can.

>>8733249
Yeah, but in the case with retro games aren't they kind of useless as an asset without the hardware (which is probably dwindling faster than the games)?

>>8733271

As long as clone consoles exist they won't be unplayable

>>8732776
>>8732812
I wonder what it's like in Yurop? Do retro stores have walls of ZX Spectrum cassettes and people be like "Rare original tape of The Steelyard Blues 500 quid no hagglers"

>>8733302
they don't. shops have Nintendo and Sega games like everywhere else. actually there's a lot of revisionism about the history of gaming here so people nowadays believe it was always like it had been in America.

>>8733313
>actually there's a lot of revisionism about the history of gaming here so people nowadays believe it was always like it had been in America.
This is so frustrating. I never knew anyone with a SNES. Everyone had Mega Drives, but you get people talking about Sega as the underdog, and how they couldn't compete with games that weren't even released here and probably didn't even know about.

>>8732927
>>8733031
2001 for me

>>8733313
>nowadays believe it was always like it had been in America
America has the same level of Nintendo-centric revisionism. Anything pre-NES - Atari/Coleco, Pong clones, vintage computer games, etc live in bargain bins. Some of the more uncommon stuff (Atari 5200, Coleco) has only started to appreciate in value recently because it is going on 40 years old now.

>>8732776
Because only retards buy retro games. Retard.

>>8733056
>AVGN's peak of popularity was over a decade ago
Exactly, it was teenagers watching him over the past ten years. Now they're grown with decent jobs and can afford to be retarded with money.

>>8733339
Yeah, but at least in America they're talking about their own country.

>>8732776
Because of bandwagoners like you

>>8732779
He literally was. Frozen as an embryo in 99 and defrosted in 2009 when one of his moms carried him to term.

what happened to pricecharting?

>>8733346
Teenagers of today are not hunting down old AVGN videos to watch lmao

They probably dont even care who he is

>>8732776
Because of people like you.

>I'm the only one that wants to play games!
>Everybody else is buying for the wrong reasons
Can you just fuck off and die please. Speculators and resellers make up less than a tenth of all buyers. Most buyers are people like you who want to play games. The people not buying are all waiting out for prices to lower so they can buy. When they do lower, you fags will all swoop in and then they'll rise again. Just get used to it, emulate, kill yourself, or get another hobby. These games aren't getting any younger, less scarce, or untouched as time goes on. You have a limited supply that will only get more limited.

>>8732850
it's this. a lot of people wanna blame avgn but he was just making comedic video essays, and over a decade ago. it's the specifically the collector tubers that have fucked the market. and covid made it worse when everyone was stuck inside having mental breakdowns googling their childhoods

>>8733473
cahem.

>>8733478
This makes me irrationally mad.

>>8733487
He has a patreon, all that shit. He literally gets paid to destroy the retro game market.

>>8733478
He's fucking Rothschilding the retro market.

>>8733478
More like resellers can know which game to scalp if they follow his Patreon

>>8733457
I wish I was like you, must be nice living in 2018. No covid, no war. People can still buy retro games to play them.

>>8733457
>Speculators and resellers make up less than a tenth of all buyers
Doubt

>>8732909
Yes? Opening up the limited pool of retro hardware available to an increasingly large market is a sure fire way to drive up the price. The best solution to keeping it affordable is keeping new people from entering the hobby. The goal is to make it as unappealing as possible for newcomers.

>>8733591
Damn I will be sure to keep buying now just to spite you. I may even attempt to sell what I have now for scalper prices.

>>8733661
>I will be sure to keep buying now just to spite you
"I'm going to give people more money for no reason. Don't YOU feel stupid."
Ever heard the expression "cutting off your nose to spite your face"?

>>8733661
Lol you sure showed me.

A lot of zoomer cope itt

>>8733478
Kek. based

>>8732776
It's the degeneracy of wealth consolidation. A handful of people (most of which were born with a silver spoon in their mouths) have so much wealth that they can satisfy all their needs 100000000x over. So they have to find more and more retarded ways to spend their money (usually in service of making even more money). So they invade previously stable niche markets and destroy them.

>>8733568
Retard.
>>8733540
You know the average non meme game is still cheaper than modern retail games right?

>>8733675
I'm not really going to give more money to people for no reason, but I might attempt to cash out at scalper prices

normal people who simply wanted to play retro games used to be a component of the market, now it consists of collector freaks and prices have gone up to match that.

I'm wondering what people's experience has been selling off their physical games at retro games stores.

>>8732776
Get the consoles you really want and buy flashcarts/ODEs for them, emulate everything else.

I only buy hardware and everything I have is already soft/hard modded. Even modern hardware like PS4, I don't give a damn.

>>8733473
At first it was channels like the game chasers and metaljesus. They weren't that cancerous and would still talk about the history of the game, what the gameplay is like, and why they find it interesting.
Now since covid, but especially over the year, you have ultra cancerous turbo faggotry shit like:
https://www.youtube.com/c/PhoenixResale
https://www.youtube.com/c/RetroRick
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRetroWorld
Who all look the same in their channel layout, and only talk about 'how good of a deal they got on this copy of *insert trending GameCube title*'

Not to mention all the fucking normalfag infested Gameboy modding channels.

>>8734612
Jesus Christ....

>>8732880
why buy old computer stuff?

>>8733478
What a moronic thing to say. His argument that his patrons can "get the jump on resellers" makes no logical goddman sense. Like, it makes more sense his videos benefit the resellers more than the collectors.

The fact that his fans actually buy this argument proves to me that he's a really dumb person and his viewers are also braindead idiots.

AVGN was definitely one of them, at that point seeing wall to wall NES library wasn't common to the average gamer. Then all the Nintendo World Championships records, now everyone things anything gaming related is worth solid gold.

>>8735260
To get the old electronics plastic warm smell.

Part of what made retro games better back before they were considered retro games was Gamestop and EB games. They were a store you could easily trade games to for cash/instore credit. They got a huge amount of stock which at the time had very little demand outside of big titles. They also priced their games for older systems aggressively and bought them for little which lead to less competition. People that wanted more also would make craigslist listing for an amount somewhere between the buy sell price of gamestop.

It was a win win for everyone but then Gamestop eventually needed more space for modern games so they sold their stock of retro games which in turn made them harder to find (supposedly some stores broke older games they couldn't sell), then you mix in all the Youtubers and collectors and you get the market we have now. Fuck I miss the early 2000s

>>8732776
I'm screaming

same thing happened with old guitar pedals and vintage bicycles. guitar pedals that were $15 now sell for $350 and bicycles that were $150 will still for $600

>>8732776
some fags who don't even care about video games started a speculation bubble just to make some cashmoney
and it worked, because now you've got "graded" copies of super mario bros selling for like 2 million, and most of the profit goes to those couple of chucklefucks
there was this really good video explaining it but I can't find the fucking thing anymore

>>8733416
Teenagers of TEN YEARS AGO, stop being retarded. Now they’re in their 20s and 30s with a fixed income, no kids, and plenty of time at home, so they’re “building a collection” they’ve always dreamed of.

>>8732776
should have bought anything you wanted to play like a decade ago

>>8735556
Both of those are things that have real world uses unlike electronic video toys

>>8735625
Yeah, not like you can actually play these games or anything

>>8735653
I think he meant more that they're not just data.

>>8735605
Literally no one thinks "man this AVGN is great, I can't wait until a decade later when I'm an adult and can afford these retro games" You're delusional if you think decade old memories of a random YouTube video have led to the massive inflation of retro gaming just in the past couple years

>>8733478
im glad i never clicked on a thumbnail from this guy

>>8732776
just buy a flashcart tard

>buy a chinese everdrive
>play the fucking games

>>8735556
It's even infected sports cars. Dealers have used credit and COVID gibsmedats to empty the market of models mentioned on jewtube to be able to dictate price levels.

I really don't care, only buy shit I like/I am interested in try, so why would I need to care about some hoarder getting scammed by a reseller?

I got all my "lmao rare expensive xddd" games on eBay Auctions for less than 15 bucks plus shipping, sniping them to get as low as I can, got some others on flea markets and last ones from honest no-jew sellers.

I'm not desperate to get my shit, I just wait patiently until I find the right price and then I buy.

>I just want to play the fucking game
If you just wanted to play games then you'd stop being a little baby and emulate them.

>>8732904
Trends typically end eventually. This is no trend, its a lifestyle now. It's like the worst parts of baseball cards and comic books jizzing all over retro games and it won't stop.

>>8732776
Just emulate, op, or hack your console, or buy those cartridges or adapters that let you play downloaded games on your console.
Don't deprive yourself from enjoying something just because you didn't have an official physical copy. You can play them wherever and whenever you want, you can play them right now.

Join the flashcart masterrace

>>8734612
God, these fucking channels are all the same.
Fucking Logan Paul Hypebeast, red circle, Dollar-amount-in-the-thumbnail garbage.

Why don't assassinations happen more often? Why did it have to be Abe and JFK?

>>8735303
>at that point seeing wall to wall NES library wasn't common to the average gamer
Is there a specific reason anyone would want a Golf or Muppets Chaos at the Carnival cartridge in their house? I'm not sure I'd take those for free.

>>8734049
This comrade gets it

>>8732909
I never said you couldn't. I'm saying that complaining about high demand while simultaneously driving up demand is childish. Which frankly fits well into the hobby of playing video games from your childhood.

>>8732776
Take the emulation pill OP, collecting these days is for people who hate money. All the retro stores near me scalp everything, some of the bigger ones even pricier than what you'd pay to import it here on ebay from the states (I live in KKKanada)

>>8733478
>>8733487
Metal Jesus is one of the kingpins of reselling scams. It's because of retards like him that we all have to pay such high prices.

>>8733478
I was a victim of this holding off on buying Samurai Western. Game price literally tripled overnight because of this faggot and never came back down.

>treating emulation as some kind of threat or ultimatum and not the normal logical choice
I really don't understand, do you think 80's and 90's videogame publishers are your friends or something? Just play the damn game on a computer like a normal person
>But I want to capture the original experience!
Then buy a flashcart or repro console, the upfront cost might suck but if it means that much to you its a better option than trying to scrounge for hilariously marked up pieces of plastic.

>>8736603
I think this is the right answer. I have been emulating since early 2000s, but recently got a flashcart for my gba since I like the form factor and don't like emulating gba on my phone/pc and it's great.
I personally have never enjoyed wasting money on anything really and even less videogames that I onlyplay ever now and then .

>>8733081
>The true redpill is original console + CRT + flashcarts
This. Cheap and not having to swap games is convenient.

Back in 2011 when I was 15 years old. Would I be able to buy most retro games for cheap back in the day? I lived most of my life in the Netherlands.

>>8733346
>decent jobs
Such as?

>>8732812
>Karens read articles like 15 NINTENDO GAMES EVERYONE GREW UP WITH THAT ARE WORTH A FORTUNE TODAY! leading to "I know what I have" listings flooding resale sites.
>People who grew up with SNES, etc. now being grown, childless adults with disposable income who want to fill that hole with nostalgia.
God both of these. Its fucking depressing.

>>8735302
>proves to me that he's a really dumb person and his viewers are also braindead idiots.
Except he's making bank off his passion and his patreons are mutually benefiting as well; all while you sit here and seethe.

>>8732776
>I just want to play the fucking game

no, you don't. if you did, you'd already be playing it. you just want to resell like everyone else.

I recently have seen what some of these genesis games go for lately and I'm tempted to start selling off my collection. Like 200 bucks for a trouble shooter cartridge wtf it's one of my fave games and I can see why it shot up in price but that much is insane. I also have splatterhouse 2 cib and it's nice as fuck tempted to sell that.

>>8733478
Does this guy have the power to increase the price of any game just by making a video about it?

>>8736368
I'm just going to emulate from now on

>>8737745
Mission accomplished.

Heaven gained an angle

until games are distributed as chwaply as music without having to hire programmers the supply will continue to get scarce. fuckin duh

>>8732776
>Posting part of the problem

I hated this trend in the early to mid 2010s, after moving on from 2012 fear mongerin, the "History" channel move out to their dogshit staged shit shows

>>8732812
Real AVGN from the second half of the 2000s (not Screenwave zombie AVGN), didn't ruin shit. He was doing a show and it was more interesting to actually see all those old cartridges and hardware instead of just him playing roms. Collecting was never a problem for lifelong retro enjoyers. It's a problem for you because you waited until all the middle aged normies wanted to buy a bunch of shit from their childhood for nostalgia.
Did you expect to buy old games whenever you feel like it forever and the price would never go up?

>>8733221
Now thats what we called false flaggin and shitflingin

>>8733491
And fucktards fall for this shit.

Dont these people realize these were just grifters all along essentially infiltratinh and co-opting our community and shitting it up for cash n clout?

>>8734612
Nigga, MetalJebusC/o/ck was one of the earlier grifters.

>>8737856
Does he really grift, or is he just the most popular? I have a feeling that it doesn’t really matter who’s doing the shilling, a popular video will drive up sales of a game regardless if boomer deadhead makes a video or someone else.

>>8733056
>based Mike plays roms on flashcarts
The main difference between people who play games and plastic hoarders

>>8733478
He's gaming both Patreon and the Retro Market at the same time. It's a shitty thing to do, but also shrewd from a moneymaking standpoint.

>>8733302
>Do retro stores have walls of ZX Spectrum cassettes
no. Euros understand now that they had a shitty childhood.

>>8735556
>vintage bicycles
boomers nostalgic for their paper routes?

>>8733302
The largest UK retro store is full to the brim with speccy and amiga shit because they can't get rid of it. Anything Sega or Sony sells almost instantly.

>>8737862
Its on a much smaller scale obviously but he is doing the equivalent of Elon Musk tweeting about a stock he likes. The system just isn't designed to handle one person having that much influence and reach.

>>8732776
man if you have an ps1 just mod it, modchip or software, and burn your cd's at home. or if you have the cash do the sd card mod. If it is a cartridge console there are cartridges with sd cards so you can insert the ROMs and play.

>>8737290
He does. This greasy bastard is one of the greatest cancers in retro gaming.

>>8737867
Wasnt he a collectorfag too?

I went into a local game store today and two mexican normalfags were asking for a copy of botw (retro game store), this store has alright prices, they'll jew you with the 100 copy Sh2 but will sell other games for fairly reasonable prices and one of them complained about said prices. One peeped up saying "this is just how the retro market is now man,the prices are insane" and then he bought a copy of rugrats for the gameboy
No point with this, I just really hate normalfags

>>8738243
>Cockroaches manipulate the market for profit and clout
>IS JUST DAH WAY IT IS NAO

>one of my fav games of all time
>want to own it after emulating it for a decade
>$100+ loose
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>8738351
$100 is a lot for you? Lol

>>8734612
>Not to mention all the fucking normalfag infested Gameboy modding channels.
at least the gameboy modding scene allows people to fix up and improve scratched as fuck or corroded old gameboys and gives them new life to actually be used and played with. additionally, since most of the mods are inherently new and in production, the only thing that's needed is a donor console, and it often doesn't matter what kind of condition it's in, since the point of the process is to refurbish and fix it and improve it, you'd be replacing damaged screens, or scratched shells anyways. and most importantly, for the most part, gameboys are still relatively affordable enough right now. But yeah, $50 for a scratched GBA SP still sucks ass, but a lot better than a single fucking $200 video game you can download an ISO/ROM of from the internet.

>>8738351
the rewards of the emulationfag, too bad you didn't play it legally 10 years ago

>>8738357
as a matter of fact yes, richfag.
>>8738376
I was a kid back then.

>>8738357
for a gameboy game yes stop being a retard anon

>>8738351
glad i picked this one up in 2017

>>8738239
Probably a smart collectorfag who bought games when they were cheaper plus saved everything he bought new when he was a kid.
He plays on flashcarts to keep his real carts in pristine condition and protect his investment.

>>8733410
garbage site.

best way to know the current price of a game is ebay, filter to recently sold items.

the GameEye app is literally more up to date.

>>8738405
Nah he spends a lot of money on rare games post-retro popularity.
Remember, he owns a legit copy of Sapphire for PC-Engine CD, which he bought in recent years, and he never wanted to reveal how much he paid for it.
Also Mike was never good at vidya, which is why he fired Bootsy out of jealousy.
But, I'll give Mike the benefit of at the very very least not lying about owning rare japanese systems and games as a kid, like many other e-celebs do (happy console gamer, etc). Mike did lie about his mom getting him a copy of SMB3 back in 1988, and not the japanese copy, but a US copy his mom supposedly found in japan (lmao). It's cute that he thinks anybody would buy that bullshit as an adult, I could see him lying to his schoolmates back then, but to do it on youtube as an adult is something else, that guy is crazy.

>>8738405
Hate fuckers like this
It doesn't hurt the game to play it

>>8738428
>just touch your game and get fingerprints all over the plastic
>just put the cartridge in the slot and grind up the connectors
>just send power through the circuits and light it up like Frankenstein

>>8732776
>Why is buying retro games so cancerous now?
Jews or: The Love of Money Fucks Everything Pure and Holy on God's Green Earth

>>8733081
Mufuggin nigga

Owning the real games is actually kino though, especially with the original box and manuals, you can SMELL the soul.
But, the next best thing is flashcarts, yeah. Original hard and CRT is the must, the minimal must.

>>8737745
Good. You are literally helping the issue then. Thanks anon.

>>8737745
have fun not having fun.

>>8732776
Here is your solution. Problem solved.

If I was rich or a millionaire and I wanted to fix the retro gaming market, what should I do? How to fix the market to be honest and payable?

>>8739064
hire hitmen to take out all big re-sale whales. Individual people buying a single copy or people coming in to a local store to trade stuff in are not the problem, the fucks that scoop up large amounts of stuff and then sit on it to resell or buy anything lower then their selling price are the problems.

I gotta sell some games soon and I've been doing some research. I think the reason why the market sucks so bad is actually because shipping is expensive and rent is expensive. Selling a game on ebay for $20 turns into $9 shipping and ebay keeping $4, or something like that. Go to sell it at a local game store and they'll offer $6.
For example, I want to get rid of Banjo Kazooie. It's a $30 game normally and mine is in great condition. I'll be lucky if I can take home $20. Game store will offer $14.

>>8738417
Ebay has breen dogshit post 2009 and its been horrible after nintendoage and its been horrible after the s/0/ys and the resellerd and shillbids bots and its been horrible after the pandemic and it will forever be horrible.

Just a bunch of pathethic starvin bastarfs wanting to get rich quick by selling old crap because fake staged shitshows like storage wars and pawn stars and price of history brainwash them.

>>8738357
Yes you fucking consoomer, those 100 could be the difference of still putting food on the table and not being evicted.

Shitbag

>>8738357
I hope your onion ssuce potato head gets smashed you creature of the night!

>>8739064
bitcoin assassin every youtube guy like metaljesusrocks

>>8732776
physical games in general have just gotten more expensive. A lot of the games I want end up being released by FOMO companies selling 3 copies, triple AAA games are starting to retain value because the people who just want to play games are getting them digitally now.
Honestly everything nowadays is plagued with FOMO bullshit because of how the economy is regressing. Buy overpriced now so you won't have to spend double or triple on it later when it gets scalped and what not
The only shit that holds a fair price is basic necessities and only barely.

>>8739095
FOMO is a cancer, and is getting worse. But I think a big problem with it is that it speeds everything up. It leads to feelings that you must be constantly connected, updated, seeing every little development.
I remember when I first started going online many moons ago I'd probably only spend multiple days offline, and then go online again and not feel as if I missed anything because there was less of a "now now NOW!" atmosphere on forums and BBSs. If you didn't reply for a few days it wasn't like this was a bad thing, and then you had BBSs were you could log on, download the latest posts, and read and reply offline then when you were next on post your replies and get the latest posts again.

I do wonder if something like that should (or even could) come back.

Yeah, not related to the retro market, but I think it all feeds in to each other.

>>8739113
forums are the worst format for discussion ever created

>nOOoOoO YOU CANT JUST EMULATE YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE GEENUUIAAIEENNE EXPURAIENCEE!!! LAG! NOT 100% AKURATE! OMG!! YOU HAVE TO PAY HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS FOR ANCIENT HARDWARE THAT'S ON ITS WAY TO FAILING ALONG WITH A FUCKING EYERAPE TELEVISION FROM THE STONE AGE TO PLAY OLD GAMES! /vr/ HAS SPOKEN!!!
I've been playing videogames since the 1970s and FUCK original hardware, I emulate 100%. If a crusty old man gamer emulates and doesn't give a flying fuck about old hardware, why the goddamn living shit should you?

>>8739116
They're at least better than most social media sites we have now.
But like I said, I think the BBS (these days SSH/Telnet) was still the best community discussion platform, one reason being the "read and reply offline" aspect that I mentioned.
IRC and Usenet are probably better at a technical level though.

>>8739065
>or buy anything lower then their selling price are the problems.
C'mon, everybody likes scoring a deal for a game secondhand that they really want.
The real problem is the people that buy solely to sell.

/vr/ in 2012
>pick-up threads
>BST threads
>collection threads
>which of these flea market hunting youtubers are your favourite?
>emulation is a sin

/vr/ in 2022
>none of the above
>if someone attempts a pick-up thread it's ignored to page 10
>shit on sellers and buyers alike
>praise flashcarts and emulation

This is a little amusing for me. But stop telling yourself it came to this solely because of "scalpers", we all contributed, each putting our own stone. Even if you haven't bought anything in a decade you've contributed to the increase of prices by being here, talking about games, and probably also clicking on youtubers videos.

>>8733081
Yup

Unless you find some bargains, the time to buy is long gone. I'm in constant doubt if I should sell my collection or not, seeing how much I could make with those retarded high prices.

>>8737867
Mike is a MASSIVE collectorfag. What are you on about?

>>8736230
I had Muppets Chaos at the Carnival as a kid. Pure nightmare fuel.

I still remember the day a long time ago when I saw a 10 Yard Fight cart for 8 bucks. I think that was the moment I knew buying old games just for fun and to play was over.

>>8732776
It's expensive but how cheap did you expect?
I started when almost all the games that are 200 now - were 40. Theres still a couple ( super turrican 2, operation thunderbolt, and a few others) I want to get but the price does just keep going up. If I didnt already have 85% of my library already I wouldnt even bother..

I didnt bother when I saw how much sega CDs were

I didnt bother when I saw how much neo geo stuff cost

And if super turrican 2 goes above 300 Im never buying it.

You just have to line in the sand some things.

>>8732913
Not everyone supports piracy.

>>8732913
>If I could use emulators back in the 90s instead of cartridges I definitely would.

Nesticle came out in 97 and worked under DOS on my 486

>>8733591
Who are you to say what consoles people should or shouldn't buy?

>>8739123
I wonder what Youtube comment section this was pasted from?

>>8739384
Nesticle was also an absolutely terrible emulator, modern ones are 500% better.

>>8732880
Most people who play old games outside of the enthusiast community don't give a shit about CRT TVs, component cables, and crap, they either just play in an emulator on their modern computer and monitor at default settings, or just hook up their old consoles to their modern TV using whatever cables they still have that works.

>>8733478
The worst part about that fat longhaired cunt is that every cart he has that is worth 1k + he insist on sharing with everyone " I got this at a garage sale for 5 bucks"

>>8739123
>NOT THOUSANDS FOR ANCIENT HARDWARE THAT'S ON ITS WAY TO FAILING ALONG WITH
FPGAs are on the way to solving that.

>>8736472
>It's because of retards like him
you are the only retarded, buddy.

>>8739398
At that point, you’re just left with the Grandfather’s Axe thought experiment. At some point, these things are going to be more FPGA than original hardware.

>>8739396
This is the core reason things went bad. Garage sales, flea markets, even casual trades, all dried up. Nowadays everyone checks Ebay before selling anything and Ebay itself is less like an auction now and more like Amazon. Everything is buy it now.

>>8739116
There's no way they're worse than Reddit or Facebook for discussion.

I would tell you how I get shit for cheap but I know redditors browse here and I don’t want them screen shotting and posting it on Reddit for their faggot friends to say “OMG does dat weally work?!?!? POGGERS” so I will be selfish and not tell you shit.

>>8739374
>You just have to line in the sand some things.
That's what happened. It's just getting people's goat that the line is now gaming in general. A lot of people adopting flash carts are doing it as a compromise. Like 80% of the community can no longer afford to participate. There's no gaming middle class anymore. You're either a high roller or you emulate everything.

>>8739601
yeah the feeling I got from the 2 times a co worker and a friend gave me a box of old cartridge's

" I never play these."
" we were going to sell them to babbages but we want you to have them."

> yoshis island, mario world + all stars , killer instinct. all at least decent games...

> zombies ate my neighbor, goof troop, and many others that I didn't even know about in the other

miss that shit

>>8739626
gimmie a hint.

Is it buying from an isreali and hoping the game gets to you in 2 months?

>>8732776
I stopped collecting in 2019. Started buying Everdrives and ODE's and never looked back.

>>8739575
FPGAs were discussed before; they can replicate the original chip but you have to understand how it works at the circuit level which requires decapping and studying it, else you just have glorified emulation. And even if the original chip were still made it would inevitably change along the way; you would have something like a SID in a modern low power IC that uses a newer process.

>>8739679
Ship of Theseus...but then again I don't see classic car fags putting 60 year old tires or motor oil from a rusting can they found in a barn in their cars.

>>8739090
>>8739065
Should I enjoy killing/ruining them?

>>8739664
There's really no practical reason to collect vidya anymore unless:

>you're too retarded to figure out how to set up a flashcart or ODE, or too ignorant to confront your unhealthy consooming habits whether you've got a hole burning in your pocket or you're scraping by on welfare
>are an eCeleb/insecure internet narcissist who feels like they to show off their e-peen or has a financial/business stake through reselling
>you refuse to admit playing on hardware is playing on hardware whether it's playing theough a cart/disc or some other medium and/or refuse to distinguish the difference between FPGA's/flashcarts and software emulation (in other words: terminally autistic)

If you really want to fix things you'd invest in perfecting reproductions that are indistinguishable from the originals even under a microscope and then flood the market all at once. Schrodinger's cartridge.

>>8739705
This is cope. The reality is that there's no practical WAY to collect vidya anymore. People are fine with emulation, FPGA, ODE, etc. What they don't like is being forced into it. It's not a choice anymore.

>>8739719
Whether it's hardware decay, the TV standards changing, or the kikes driving the prices beyond what anyone could normally afford, the growing dependance on piracy for the sake of preservation was inevitable.

>>8739727
>or the kikes driving the
Isn't there a containment board or something for this?

>>8739731

>>8737867
>pays out the ass for a REAL AUTHENTIC GENUINE copy of Mr. Gimmick
>ragequits like a bitch because it's too hard

At least he can brag about owning some REAL plastic and cardboard

>>8739731
Fuck off, Shmuli

>>8735302
>The fact that his fans actually buy this argument proves to me that he's a really dumb person and his viewers are also braindead idiots.
Honestly it seems to be more of a genius marketing move on his part to turn the influence he has on retro game prices into a steady stream of income for himself. Now if you want in on the ground floor early (even though it wouldn't be for the collector) you have to pay this man a certain amount every month.

Has been ever since the normie crowd started coming into our spaces (2007 or so, but worsening since 2018).

(Not so coincidentially this also seems to have been around the same time the troon disease invaded all the emudev and ROM hacking communities.)

>>8739657
i really enjoy countries which had american influence from the 60’s to the late 90’s

>>8733323
I've noticed that, am from the UK. Not interested in most of the games that weren't released here, genre wise. But apparently America and Japan are the whole world.

Also AVGN is still relatively well known for his earlier stuff in zoomer spaces, a lot of this interest also seems to tie in with the retro PC surge (same type of zoomers are buying it all and consuming the content in a way that's commercially viable) so yeah

>>8739784
It feels like insider trading. There's something inherently shady about someone having that much control over a market and knowingly doing it.

>>8739657
Sorry, Israel isn't a country, try rephrasing.

>>8734612
Fuck that phoenix resale guy, he barely cares about playing video games and just buys shit to turn a profit. Him and people like him are a cancer for this hobby and must be eradicated.

>>8739760
>"the star weapon is awful"
He's not wrong. That's what you get for buying a game just because it was declared a classic by Swedes and modern journalists who probably save-stated through it on an emulator.

>>8739691
We’ll, they do make reproduction white wall tires that are pretty true to original spec, meaning they suck. Conventional motor oil is also still the same as it was for the most part. Many people do use original parts, but a lot of classic car stuff is just still produced. No need for modern replacements.

>>8739924
>Conventional motor oil is also still the same as it was for the most part
ha ha, no. actually modern motor oil is a lot better than 1950s motor oil. that's one reason engines last longer nowadays.

>>8739849
You mean Palestine isn't a real country? Cuz there's literally never been an independent state called Palestine, the term was only used to refer to Israel when it was a province of various different empires.

Israel is actually an independent country.

>>8740019
If you use synthetic motor oil that’s true, but they still sell conventional oil too.

>>8739760
>odyssey and NWC on FUCK

Oh cmon man

>>8733302
There isn't many retro stores, they all fail because people will not pay a premium when they can just order online.

>>8739116
Social networks are much much worse

>>8740281
The web in general has turned to cancer.
Hate it so much. Sometimes I want to just turn into an old man who only uses it once a week.

>>8739158
a 4chan board getting better over the years? now i've seen it all

>>8739158
>>8740418
/vr/ is definitely better after the rule change, there's the occasional consolefaggot thread but watching the shitposters throw a temper tantrum and try to scorch-earth the board with falseflag threads was worth it.

>>8740495
If you ignore all the low effort /v/ threads and the board speed doubling I guess this makes sense

>>8740514
The board quality improved vastly. Now we don't have 70% of the board covered in perpetual reposts of
>thoughts on OoT?
>SOTN is overrated!
>Super Metroid isn't as good as Metroid, prove me wrong
>Oi me Speccy lol xd
>omg Saturn controllers are amazing and the N64 has no gaems!
>jarpigs>shmups fuck you sega
>check out this 8bitdo/retrobit controller!
Now these shitty consolewars made by discord trannies get pushed off the board and watching them throw a tantrum over the rule change, falseflagging and blaming /v/ for a month after was glorious. I now relish every time some pleb cries about /v/ because I get to enjoy retro vidya discussion without some faggot clique clogging up the board like they own the place.

>>8740397
The web was never good

>>8740495
>/vr/ is better after the rule change
OBJECTION! The board is not objectively better after the rule change. Sure, some games can now be openly discussed on here without getting said posts about them deleted, but 2007? REALLY!? At the very least, roll it back to 2004.
>Everyone who makes threads I don't like is a Discord tranny
>implying that consolewars are exclusive to such folks.

>>8740595
>folks
lmao, trannies can't even pretend they're not trannies if they try.

>>8732776
Get OG hardware and a flash cart. That simple.

>>8732927
I forget when I first started emulating, but it was probably with NESticle, mostly to play some Zelda hack. Got more into it with MAME in probably 2002.
>>8732776
Because some people (not putting the parenthetical emphasis to avoid angering the janny) saw an opportunity to milk money out of a hobby that was primarily inhabited by hobbyists of average (to below average) means. It really fucking sucks. Game buying used to be fun, and outside of bulk sellers, you felt like you were dealing with passionate people with similar interests. Now whenever I buy or sell something, I assume it is going to or coming from some investor.

>>8740397
Just the fact you think sites weren't plastered with ads in 2005, never mind even before that, tells me you weren't even alive at that time.

>>8740595
Nothing in my post mentions 2007, fuck off

>>8740597
>LMAO TRANNY LOL
You got any proof that I am, fucktard asswipe!?
You are grasping at straws if you actually think the word "folks" is trannyspeak in and of itself, bitchboy. Each board has its purpose. /vg/ is for ongoing video game generals. /pol/ is for political discussion and dialogue. /int/ is for general international stuff. /b/ is an "anything goes expect that which is downright illegal in the USA" board. /v/ is for typical discussion of video games. /vr/ is for older games in particular. /vmg/ is for discussion and posting about mobile games, and so on. But hey by all means, you may screech at me like a mentally retarded dumbfuck with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome about me being a tranny.

>>8740632
>what is adblocker
You missed the point of his image by a country mile, it's about the commercialization and centralization of information and content.
Left is what the internet looked like with an adblocker.
Right is what the internet looks like now with an adblocker.
The internet used to be a place with advertising space on it, now it's one giant marketing platform and data scraper for multinationals.

>>8740659
trans mad

>>8740495
Yeah I sure hope you like the board being filled with dumb zoomer questions after all the knowledgeable posters left

>>8740691
>things I made up
oh no

>>8740597
based retard letting mentally ill freaks own words

>>8740707
>things I made up
Were you even here before the rule change for more than a day?
>>8740684
>DURR trans mad
Yeah right, bitchboy. Enjoy treating your baseless claims as fact, as well as getting drunk on snorting your own fucking farts. Pic related

>>8740791
lol
>>8740573

Not exactly the same, but I've been buying up up opened packs of alien vs Predator ccg decks and packs to rip open and play. Collectors get the rope

>>8732776

I say take advantage while you still can, why be the cuck who gets singled out and has no opportunity to take advantage of something. Prices are going to just increase forever. I literally paid $100for a 3DO copy of Night Trap with zero blemishes, people said I was crazy. Shit is still dinged up for almost twice that right now.

>>8740875
There has to be a ceiling. We saw the Nintendo PlayStation prototype sell for $300,000 at auction, way less than the several million predicted. I'm not going to be that guy and say that we're at the ceiling but a CIB Earthbound is now at $2000. There's a point where it just has to stop before everyone not actually real life rich is totally priced out of the market. After which it would have to come back down because there are just too many copies of these games in existence. Earthbound isn't that rare.

>>8732776
Want to know why? I'll tell you why. I work at a game shop down south - because of collectors fucking everything up, games that should only be worth 1/8th of their value have gone up to stupid amounts. WATA is particularly egregious for this. Here's an example.

2017: We had Pokemon FireRed for sale for round about $25, $35 if it had the box. We paid about $10 for it lose or about $15-20 depending on the condition of the box. Either way, we still profit.

Fast-forward to today, where Pokemon FireRed is about $80-90 depending on the market and about another $30-40 if you have the box and its in decent condition. We had to drop at least twice/thrice what we'd normally pay for it. I hate selling games like these, they're overpriced and often just sit there because they're priced competitively. Why not lower our prices? Because people won't sell them to us if they know they can sell it for higher elsewhere.

The market, WATA in particular, is actively fucking over the 2nd hand market and if things don't change or stablize soon, this will be the norm for a long, long time.

>>8735351
I miss when Gamestop/EB Games had PC titles available.

>>8732776
might not be too helpful, but japanese games are still generally cheap

I sold my entire collection of old shit 2 years ago. Best money I ever made, from TurboGrafx handheld to Snes rarities to PSX imports, and then got it all back after my 5k dollar new PC

???
Profit.
All on a few Raids now kek

Clinging on to old hardware is top boomer cringe - and I'm 50 myself now.

>>8741160
Now, If i want to revisit the past, I fire up mame. boom. All there.
No shits given, and new shit runs too.

Hardware nostalgia is a weird thing to have. Didn't keep my Amgia, C64, whatever.
Why would anyone? All emulated, all works. Zero reason to cling to this old shit

>>8741160
>>8741168
cope.

>>8741170
cope? Are u stupid kek
I am happy this shit doesn't dust up my condo nor takes up endless space I don't have.

Fucking idiot lol

No more fucking disc rot, gilbed boxes, shit falling apart, ALL NICE % TIDY on my SSDs
What more can man ask for

>>8741179
sure.

>Parasite Eve 2 was $80 last month
>it's going for $130
Genuinely what the fuck is going on with these trends

>>8741179
he's just projecting his insecurity from his own collection habit, don't mind him

>>8741189
>>8741281
Whatever you say kids. Kek...

>>8732776
If you emulated a game, you didn't actually play it.

>>8741193
scalpers and money launderers. Its why ebay is reporting everyone to the IRS that gets more than $500 in cash even if its not a profit.

>>8740262
Odyssey is a dogshit episode because of the nerdy turd """character"""

My mom saved most of my old console boxes growing up (thanks mom), I found them in storage bins when we had to move and get rid of stuff a couple years ago. I bought clear protective sleeves for all the boxes to keep them from getting beaten up any further, also found a bunch of games I used to play as a kid that I thought I sold on eBay in high school.

>>8738351
who is jacking up the price on this game? I refuse to believe this naturally got to this price. who wants to pay more than 20 bucks for this astro boy game

you guys didn't gate keep the normies with racism now you get what you fucking deserve

>>8735706
They've always had "numbered" cars anon that's not new.

>>8734612

>>8735306
This guy gets it

>>8738371
I like you anon

>>8741883
What a chad

>>8734612
See you faggots, this is what happens when you dont gatekeep your hobby. Shit wouldnt have ever been this retarded if everyone stayed on niche retro gamer oriented hives instead of going on some open video platform and gushing about stuff to norms who never had any interest in this stuff, but caught the "trendy, nerdy hype" bug when they say some maw gaping lardo spewing on about old games. You would have had the occasional wave of nostalgia seekers and those actually interested in playing retro games would have naturally found their way into the hobby and groups. You should have acted like maximum crusty basement goblins to make this stuff seem like potent pussy-repellent baby-toys that are all old and outdated stuff no one in <CURRENT YEAR> would ever want to touch again except grandpa. But no, we cant have nice things.

>>8732776
I think you'd have to be crazy or overly wealthy to buy retro games now. I still own my old games and I still play them from time to time. While there are games I'd like to play there is zero chance of me spending $500+ on a game that cost one tenth of that when it was new. I'd sooner emulate them or buy a repro.

>>8741970
I cant think of any of the meme price western games that cost similarly in Japan. Pretty much 90% of the stuff that is "in demand" is either reasonable or dirt cheap they cant get rid of fast enough. If you learn even the simplest of the runes, that opens up pretty much the entire chunk of the japanese 8-bit library. And then there is stuff where its like, do you REALLY care if you cant read the text in a fucking Mega Man game? Plus censoring shit, like why pay Zuckerberg prices for US Final Fight Guy when you cant even beat up women in it? And no, im not going to feel bad about "depleting stock for some poor japanese guy", not when they have enough stock just sitting around for decades not being played by anyone and being sold for peanuts. Just dont be a scummy jewseller trying to flip Mario 3 Famicom for 80 bucks.

>>8732776
I blame ebay, amazon, and the internet and idiots in general. 20+ years ago people sold old games for reasonable prices because the market was smaller. You weren't likely to find a buyer who was going to pay full price for a used game, let alone 2-20+ times the value. However, with the advent of the online market place, there is always some moron with too much money and not enough common sense, who is willing to spend $2000+ on what was a $50 product when it was brand new. It's actually laughable at how collecting and rarity works. You get someone who is greedy and some lacking common sense, match them up and you get over inflated prices.

>>8741964
Oh woe is me. Now I must lol daily at seething poorfag bandwagoners before I go swimming in my scrooge mcduck vault full of old toys. What a world. What a world.
The part that really gives me the warm fuzzies is that I've been "gatekeeping" since early days. Relentlessly mocking bandwagonner faggots jumping on the latest fad to get likes and subscribes. And warning anyone else that they're ruining the market. All mostly met with sanctimonious bandwagoner circle jerking by the retarded cucklings that have infested this board. It literally gives me a semi to see how booty blasted the dumb fucks are now.

>>8740919
The value of money is so low right now that I won’t be surprised if retro games jump double digits in price even by the end of the year. They’re simply not going to crash before the economy itself starts to do so. It has, but there are still so many rich people with way more than enough money to continue to drive up price increases. If you want ANYTHING, but it right fucking now. Pic unrelated

>>8741179
>anon only has an apartment so he has to get rid of his stuff
People with actual property don’t have your space constraints, why would I worry about a few boxes full of memories? What, you throw out old family photos too lol? Sad.

>>8735591
Karl jobst ones

>>8741485
Basically yeah

>>8732776
I was hoping Nintendo online reduce some game prices down

>>8743148
>I was hoping Nintendo online reduce some game prices down


man you're retarded.
You think Nintendo game prices go down?

They're still selling BotW for full price after 5 years.

GameCube games from resellers have only gone up, even when available on other consoles like fucking ZatchBell on GC and PS2. Worthless on PS2 but worth above 100 on GC.

Nintendo tax, Nintendo fags, and normies are to blame for Nintendo games being worth so much.

>>8743284
I was thinking of buying my niece a Switch when she turns 5 or 6 but seeing as how the games do not depreciate in value it feels like a better idea to give her a hacked PS1 classic with all the kid games on it or a RPi with a snes/genesis emulator and a bunch of roms. Is it cringe to give a child emulator hardware? Nintendo seem like such jews now that it's hard to justify buying a Switch. I gave my sister BotW for Christmas and was blown away that it was still full price lol

>>8737745
You could get a flashcart if you want to play on original hardware.

>>8741365
It is a really good game.

Just emulate retard

>>8743785
It's what OP has been doing all his life, now he wants to actually play the game as intended.

>>8743785
just kill yourself dumbass

>>8744081
you weren't intended to talk on computers about video games, you were intended to talk with them face to face with your friends, but you don't seem to care about that

>>8732850
>>8734612
>>8741964
>>8740957
The Amalgamation of what happened. Everything else is just whining.

>>8736461
This is why I believe Piracy and Emulation should always exist regardless for Games, music and all other media.

>>8732801
You are a retard, jesus christ. Eat a fucking bullet.

>>8744446
If you kill yourself first and live stream it I will record a video of myself cumming on my collection

I'm at the point where I'm willing to just buy loose games because I actually wanna play them on original hardware.
>$55 bucks for a disc of Dino Crisis 2
>$120 for a case
Jesus christ. That broke me. I got enough cases taking up pointless space that I don't need to show off my LE HECKIN GAMER CRED to maybe my girlfriend and two friends.

>>8744928
You have a problem, you can play it just fine on emulator.

>>8744928
No, don't buy the games, just emulate them. You will need to save your money for lentils, you will own nothing and be unhappy.

>>8741365
metal gear
aria of sorrow ( duh )
metroid

all of them are getting a little crzy

>>8732776
Just order a modded Wii console off Facebook for like $150. Full libraries for everything worth playing up to 6th gen. Beats the tens of thousands you would have to shell out otherwise.

I haven't checked the prices on any of my games in over a decade. Doubt I'll ever sell anything.

>>8745081
From a cursory glance anon, you've got well over a grand in just the Playstation section alone.

Never, ever sell it. Please. We had a guy sell us his Dreamcast collection because his wife made him and it just made my heart drop.

>>8739378
You do realize that Nintendo isn’t making any money when you buy a cartridge from a retro game store, right?

>>8745227
As a consumer you have a right to buy used products. You don't have a right to get something for free that's supposed to cost money. It's still morally worse.

>>8745232
And what if that cartridge doesnt exist anymore, what if every single Super Mario Bros for the NES just up and blew up - what then?

>>8745217
valkyrie profile alone is like $300

>>8745236
Why would that happen?

>>8745217
>because his wife made him and it just made my heart drop.
>not arguing to the man that he should sell them and to tell his wife to fuck off.

>>8745217
>>because his wife made him and it just made my heart drop.
>>not arguing to the man that he shouldN'T sell them and to tell his wife to fuck off.

>>8745232
>It's still morally worse.
Buying a used game and downloading a ROM are morally the exact same thing.

>>8745248
Someone paid for that specific copy of that used game. When the person originally paid for it, they had a right to do what they wanted with it except make copies and give them away for free.

Look, I pirate plenty of shit myself, but I don't pretend like I'm doing something that's okay. I mean, the difference morally has been obvious in society forever.

>>8745217
Yeah a few grand isn't worth it to me. I like having a comfy game closet. I finished collecting in 2010 and am still working through this backlog.

>>8745237
I did say over a grand, never said it stopped there.
>>8745242
I tried but he wouldn't budge. Some women just don't like their men having hobbies like gaming.

>>8745217
how do men let women say what they can do with the shit they bought before they even met?

I wish the fuk my lady would try to make me sell any of my shit.

> it takes up too much room
yes a room max. bitches have entire rooms just for fucking clothes.
>we need the money
work then
>you only play half of the games
stop watching me, and develop your own hobby

>>8745262
>I did say over a grand, never said it stopped there.
I don’t think they were implying otherwise

>>8745272
See a man do the same thing, he would be labeled as an abuser, a tyrant in his own home. Inexcusable. But for a woman to do the same thing? She's merely fixing up her man. Bah.

>>8738616
>made for BGGC

>>8745217
>We had a guy sell us his Dreamcast collection because his wife made him

>>8745217
>Never, ever sell it. Please. We had a guy sell us his Dreamcast collection because his wife made him and it just made my heart drop.
I sold all my games an comics before I met my wife and she's helped me rebuild a large collection. She supports me in everything I like and do. Dude just picked a bad wife. Or probably didn't even have options and picked the only woman to ever look at him.

stop collecting games and go full flashcart/ode/softmod+ssd. retro game collecting is beanie baby collecting for middle age men.

>>8745708
Keep telling yourself that bandwagoner

>>8745817
He is not wrong though

>>8745068
>you will own kids toys over housing and be happy
ftfy

>>8745261
>Non-Sony pro monitor
>TNG
How does one become so based? You were raised well, anon.

>>8746265
>i'm also a coping poor baby

>>8745260
you're an idiot.

>>8745817
You're in the bandwagon too retard

>>8732776
because ya'll grew up and bought them all with your discretionary income

I buy everything i want at buy now prices on ebay

I'm gay

>>8746862
Seethe harder little man

>>8746271
>you will have to choose between hobbies and housing and be happy

GameStop was unironically a good way to load up on mainstream but still kinda expensive retro shit. They had tons of b2g1 sales and other stuff for a while until they finally depleted all their stock. More often than not everything was legit, labels were fine, etc. Glad I loaded up on shit when they had it but real talk mister is the way to go now

>>8747424
>so anyway buy mister
fucking kek, kys shill

>>8747424
You mean when they had retro stuff a few years ago or back in the 90s/early 2000s? If you are reffering to the recent years, then yeah, it actually was a good way to get stuff. I avoided carts cause I saw (and traded in) far too many bootlegs, but PS1 games you could score some stuff for good deals. Got Vanguard Bandits for like $40 and Mega Man Legends 2 for $30. It was a bit of a crapshoot if you got them complete or if they wernt some damaged stuff someone traded in, but you could always return the stuff easily at any nearby store. I regret not jumping on a copy of Xenosaga 3 they had on their site one day for a nice price.

>>8747442
Recent years, like 2016-2019.

>>8743480
>Is it cringe to give a child emulator hardware?

I'd say it depends. Kids are usually into what other kids like, I highly doubt they'd be interested in playing older games.

just save your money. maybe show them some of the games you're into, if they enjoy it, try it out.

Try the 3DS or a Switch if you can hack it. Something easy to use.

>>8747491
I liked playing old games when I was a kid because of Animal Crossing and later because of the Wii Virtual Console. Don't kids get into old games because of modern ways to play them? Or was I an exception, rather than a rule?

>>8732776
WTF is wrong with retro gaming.
>US version
>over 100+$
>EU version
>10$

Same goes for screens
>Sony PVM in the US
>over six gorillion dollar
>Sony PVM in the EU in perfect condition
>20€ from some friendly old man

>>8747491
Kids love old video games, people just don't give a shit enough to show them. My wife's friend brought her kids over and I busted out the Sega genesis. They played that shit for hours and they are usually the fortnite/minecraft type of kids.

>>8747580
>Kids love old video games
Kids love good games. No matter what generation these games are.

>>8747580
Which games did they play/like ?
Also
>My wife's friend
You don't wanna say that around there kek

>>8739081
>>8738384
broke mother fuckers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKbuNwS-gaI

>>8747815
Why wouldn't he want to say that around here? Does your mommy have no friends?

>>8745708
except games have actually appreciated from their original prices

>>8732776
Prices haven't actually gone up in value, it's the dollar that's gone down in value. It's simply inflation.

>>8733065
The urge to kys grows exponentially with age. One day you'll only wish you had done it a long, long time ago.

>>8747815
She had a daughter aged 5 and a son aged 8. Started with some Sonic 2 and both were really into that. Then we played some Streets of Rage. Her daughter lost interest after awhile but her son was super into it. He kept playing different cartridges Comix Zone, Earthworm Jim etc.

>>8741160
Literal lack of soul.

>>8739064
>If I was rich or a millionaire and I wanted to fix the retro gaming market, what should I do? How to fix the market to be honest and payable?
LOL. Babby's first gommunism

>>8739064
Romanian hookers and funding Dragon's Dogma 2

>>8734612
Just had a look at the video listings of those channels you mentioned. I'm absolutely disgusted, especially with that Phoenix Resale guy.

>>8750678

>>8750853
>Romanian hookers
What if I'm not into furries?

>>8732801
Just get flash carts and ODE’s

>>8732776

>>8732812
>AVGN ruined a lot
imagine thinking that a make believe character on youtube "ruined" things? i seriously can't. only thing james ruined was his own appalling career as a google prostitute. what a sad and retarded simpleton.

>Mfw watching retro game prices constantly go up while I only ever use real hardware to load backups with mods and flashcarts
Still time to be smart about it anon

>>8732776
>I can't build my retro collection exploiting naive clueless people anymore
>I can't go on reddit and get tons of upvotes showing all the games I got for 2$ each.
The most hypocritical pigs of the gaming community.
You are too late for the party ...

one of tg-16 games is just bugging out at a certain level.

makes me reconsider even trying to regrab any vr nostalgia.

if it was a fucking cartridge, i could open it up and check it out, but no ,fuck

I don't see why I should hang on games from consoles that are 100% emulatable like the GameCube. I sold 10 Gc games on ebay and made about 1000 euros. My mint Chibi-robo went for 300 alone.
I only keep what I can't emulate properly like Steel Battalion on Xbox.
Disc rot and failing hardware is also a concern and is only going to get worse with time

>>8752083
>falling for the disc rot meme

>>8752083
disc rot is the worst meme on this board. Bring sega system back.

>>8752083
>Disc rot and failing hardware
Disc rot is so rare it isn't an issue and consumer electronics are mass produced so you can just get another one of whatever may fail.

>>8732776
Culture of man-children propping up each other's beliefs that video games are important and valuable and that they haven't wasted their lives.

Everyone says the retro game price bubble will "burst eventually, just be patient" but fuuuuck I feel like they've been saying that for half a decade. When the FUCK will it happen already? I want to buy my childhood GameCube or PS1 games without destroying my fucking life savings.

>>8739081
>spending $100 on a loose handheld game cartridge that can be emulated or played on a flashcart that every non-retarded handheld owner has
Doesn't matter how much money you have, if you buy it you're retarded. The ones saying poorfag probably aren't millionaires either, and they spend way too much of their budget on consoomie feels.

>>8751209
What does ODE mean?

>>8752516
optical drive enhancer, it enhances it by replacing it usually with a nice frontend to load games from in a simple list

>>8752057
>reddit
>
>retarded
>
>cringe
You need to go back

>>8752516
Optical Disc Emulator.

>>8752516
Optimum Diode Extender
Enhances the bitrate and extends the pixel modulators

>>8752339
Wait for WWIII to happen within the next few years.

Just get flash cards

>>8752339
I don't see it bursting unless repro carts and hardware become a lot more normalized than they are now or emulation becomes more accessible (not that it isn't easy now, but it might as well be Latin for a huge part of the retro games market). It's by definition a limited supply, and I'd assume age has already claimed a lot of cartridges and consoles out there.

>>8753117
>flash cards
well okay

>>8753129
Now draw Mario on them and flip through them really fast!

>>8753129
Good now write down a reminder to look up flash carts later

>>8753136
>butthurt: the post

>>8753436
>Replying to a joke with a joke is butthurt
?

>>8753497
he's either retarded or it's bait

>>8753497
>Replying to a joke with a joke is butthurt

>>8738469
Kill yourself dumbass idiot retard incel nigger

The fact that Silent Hill games are going to break $200 soon makes me sick.

>>8754527
But they were reprinted in Europe in 2012

>>8754540
No one cares about PAL

>>8753117
this made me laugh really hard

>>8732794
>Games should be played and enjoyed, not "collected" like some faberge egg
100% agree. As for emulation
>wii
modern desktop dualcore(like i3 7100) and 750Ti/R7 270 is enough
>ps3
10400f or 1600af plays 95% of the library, same with 1050Ti/RX 570
>xbox 360
all but two dozen games run like shit on any hardware, don't bother
>3ds
modern desktop dualcore(like i3 7100) and 950 is enough, Citra runs like dogshit on amd graphics though
>vita
proof-of-concept stage for 4 years now because everything people cared about got ported elsewhere reeeeera niggers bullying and doxxing a new dev in early 2021 into quitting because "sexist game console" didn't help

The cost of Mega Man X games on ebay is sickening.

>>8754902
Get the ps2 collection and shut the fuck up faggot.

>>8754927
PS2 is not retro

>>8754932
your whining because you got late into the bandwagon is also not retro. kys nigger.

>>8754942
Edgy zoomer head on back to /v/

>>8732776
Just emulate bro. There are some very accurate emulators. I'd emulate the shit out of PS2 if the emulators weren't bad.

>>8745232
>morally
You are posting on 4chan

>>8732801
You should have owned these games and consoles already or are you one of those faggots that decided he was "grown up" and sold all their shit, just to realize that they want to escape back to their childhood after being an adult crushes them, but now have to rebuy their childhood? Because that's literally all normies right now and why the prices are high. I still have my NES, SNES, PSX, PS2, GC and Xbox from when I first got them, because I wasn't a retard.

Also, just fucking emulate if you only care about 4th and 5th gen. PS2 is the only console you need real hardware to play the games properly, everything else is like 95% accurate in emulation and free.

>>8732812
Don't forget giving everyone thousands of dollars for free while they were stuck at home with nothing to do. I'm 36 and have never worked in my life, but suddenly getting the Rona Bucks had me on ebay buying $700 worth of games as soon as that shit was deposited in my bank account. I've still got $1200 left, but I'm waiting for the PS5 price to come down, so I'll be sitting on that for awhile.

>>8733313
>>8733323
>>8739843
You stupid faggots realize that Europe isn't just the UK, right? The market varied a lot, Nintendo was really big in the Scandinavian countries, and in Eastern Europe, particularly Russia, the market was chock full of ZX Spectrum shitboxes and Famiclones (and associated bootleg games), then transitioning away from home consoles and shitbox computers altogether and instead focusing strongly on PC.

Taking a look at some rough statistics from here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles_by_region#Europe
We can extrapolate a few things, not strongly accurate or specific things, but numbers which confidently point towards the fact that Nintendo were plenty big around Europe, doing better than Sega in some countries, but doing worse in others.
Game Boy sold 2 Million units in France, but Game Gear sold absolutely fuckall, SNES and Mega Drive having very roughly comparable numbers, NES and SNES sold about twice as much as Master System and Mega Drive in Germany, in Spain none of these break a million, Sega edging out Nintendo slightly (Playstation was much more popular).

Thinking Sega was some sort of underdog which was invisible in Europe is an absolutely retarded opinion, clearly they were not, but thinking that Europeans didn't care about Nintendo at all and that Europeans who had Nintendo games are engaging in some sort of "historical revisionism" is equally lobotomized.
Commodore shouldn't go unmentioned, but their machines weren't blotting out the sun for Sega or Nintendo either.

Also, Sega weren't even 'underdogs' in the US, yeah the Master System wasn't that hot, and the Game Gear wasn't either, but the Genesis did EXTREMELY well and competed VERY hard with the SNES.
I wouldn't even say they were underdogs with the Saturn, because going from excellence to fucking up isn't being an underdog, and even Nintendo was making dubious decisions which left the market wide open for Sony.

>>8755083
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles_by_region#Europe
Huh. Growing up in France, I was convinced that the SNES was the 4th-gen market leader (because a lot of my friends had one) but the Mega Drive beat it handily, even though the Master System wasn't even in the same ballpark as the NES. Goes to show how unreliable anedoctal memories are.

>>8755186
Yeah. I saw exactly 1 Mega Drive as a kid, but that didn't mean that Sega just wasn't popular at all in my country, I just didn't happen to see it much.

>>8755080
This happened to me. Got laid off and got on the government bucks and married someone who makes a lot of money. Never getting a job again

>>8732776
Is LITERALLY everything getting stupid expensive or is this just confirmation bias/doomposting?
Games (Retro and Modern including microtransactions/subscriptions), gas, housing, computer parts, food, it feels like the price of everything just rises and rises.

What's worse is that most of this is driven by pure greed rather than necessity, everyone wants to make a quick buck off of the next schmuck, everyones looking to take advantage of someone else to get more cash.

It feels like the longer I'm on this earth, the worse things get for the average person.

>>8755610
no, it's global inflation

>>8752339
It won't burst because the supply of these games dwindling over time

>>8752339
They were saying that 10 years ago. I was pilloried on this board for paying 1/5 of what certain games sell for now. Moral of the story is, don't take advice from NEETs and third-worlders

>>8755610
It's the biggest asset bubble of all-time

>>8732801
Back to /v/ retard boomer

I'm very glad I got an SNES flash cart before scalpers started buying them up, unfortunate I didn't buy others before then.

>>8732776
>now
It's always been this bad.Just be a nigger and pirate.

>>8732794
Agreed, but collection still has its place for historical preservation.

>>8739378
I don't think anyone on this board genuinely advocates for pillaging ships in the high seas and kidnapping their passengers.

>>8757362
I do! Fuck ships and fuck their passengers especially!

>>8732913
Emulators are not always perfect and there are some corner cases here and there, sometimes. Some consoles, such as the N64, are still hard to emulate because their hardware is significantly different from PCs.

However, the situation is improving: for gen 4 and older, we now have proven cycle-accurate emulators that pass even the most demanding of compatibility tests, and weird hardware is starting to become feasible to just emulate purely in software.

>>8755083
>>8755186
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles_by_region#Europe

>check sources

>they're estimations


Huh huh.

>>8733313
>there's a lot of revisionism about the history of gaming here
Examples? I see more complaining about this so-called "revisionism" here than actual factually wrong statements about video game history.

>>8733081
This is true. There is literally no difference, not even in theory, from using the original cartridges, since ROMs are bit-by-bit identical, regardless of where they stored.

You get to save time, space and money on the original cartridges and at the same time enjoy all the small quirks of the very original hardware. Emulation has its advantages, but also its downsides: not everyone has a powerful enough PC to run an accurate emulator, you may not have access to the original controller and the experience is going to be significantly different if the game originally relied on some specific hardware feature of the console itself (think about the DS's touchscreen). A flashcart is a one time investment that avoids all these problems.

>>8757437
>this pablo is underage

>>8756723
It has not always been this bad and you know it. I bought SH1/2/3 in 2013 for $20 each and now they are all $150+

>>8757437
Estimations showing that Sega was ahead of Nintendo in some European countries and behind in others, suggesting that popularity varied by country, also suggesting that Nintendo was anything but obscure in Europe.

Again, Europe isn't just the UK

>>8732801
Just bite the bullet and buy it and sell it back for a profit when you don't like it anymore.

>>8750202
Oh wait I misread I'm retarded

>>8750801
Good work anon, keep them out of modern shit

>>8732850
>open video
>10.01 long
>excessively long intro with 8bit music
>person sitting at desk or standing in a room full of ""collectable"" garbage
>"What is up it's _____"
>talks about nothing for at least a minute before getting into the actual topic of the video

This is the point where I just drop a dislike and close out of I don't know who it is. If nobody else has covered the topic and I have to go through a usual suspect like metaljesus or madlittlepixel I start at about the 3-4 minute mark and drop a dislike as soon as I'm done. I fucking hate YouTubers but it's sometimes the quickest way to get what information I need.

>>8759121
I feel the same way

>>8759102
You did, but anon is undoubtedly a cuck anyway.

>>8732776
>fuck off with the collector bullshit
This collector bullshit is fucking even with book publishing in my third world country. A few years ago I could buy a pocket size book from Walter Benjamin, Mo Yan and many other for 20 each (4 dollars when converted, really cheap here). Now, publishing houses are dropping this type of book because the audience wants hard cover books that look good in their shelves, you can even find comments on youtube and Amazon about it. I don't know about you, but I want books to read.
This is the funko poparization of entertainment, where you buy expensive shit in bulk to keep in a shelf and show people instead of using it.

>>8735660
he's right and you're a moron

>>8759361
The Parasite Eve novel cost like $2000 used on Amazon last I checked, so I bought a Kindle and downloaded it for $10. Now I buy lots of books on there, which are often under $10. If all you want to do is read I recommend getting a Kindle.

>>8759389
Thank you.
Some people suggested me the same, but I like to buy 5 or 8 books at once and leave it around at work and at home to read when I have time.

>>8732776
Quit lying you already did

I see nothivng wrong with doing both if you intend on buying the ones you enjoy

Not any different than laidstening to music from the 70s on the radio or a mixtape first before you get the vinyl you enjoy best

>>8739139
MAPPY

>>8759389
I bought that book in 2015 and I'm glad I did

>>8759389
>>8759540
Is the book any good?

>>8745261
>TNG and PS1

>>8759613
Yeah it's great, but the ending feels mediocre and rushed.

>>8759121
fucking kekked

i jumpcut all the time like a pos
but i dont have all god damn day either anon

>>8755067
> Because I wasn't a retard.
Just a smelly nerd. with chink plastic all around him

>>8760743
They have their "formula" and way of doing videos. It's fine if they make a hand full a year, but these fucks that do a 3 minute intro/promo at the start of every 6 minute video can hang.

OP here. I've been emulating since like 2017 and just wanted to make a bait thread. Kind of surprising it made it to 400+ replies.

>>8732776
So do it. You just said you wanted to play the game. The means are here. They've been here for awhile. Eschew boomer husks.

>>8759121
>>8759216
>hate them
>feed them anyway

Stop clicking on those videos you goddamn idiots. How complicated can it be? Do you realize you're swallowing your pride to feed what you hate so you can save yourself a few seconds of internet searching?

It did take me a long time but after years of disliking AVGN I finally stopped clicking. You can do it too.

>>8761568
Fag