/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8692983
Nah, best S&K track goes to Flying Battery

>>8692990
see>>8692983
>you're wrong.

Yes, but who built the Lava Reef Zone?

>>8693423
The Burning Brazilians? The Immolating Iranians?

I hate how some sonic levels have no flow. And they start to make you want to go backwards instead of left to right. And sonic cd is just ass.

>>8693423
The Flaming French?
The Scorching Somalians?

I'll counterpoint on this. It's one of my least favorite of the game because it's constraining. It has some of the fewest alternate routes, like they were deciding to drop the branching designs intentionally that made prior zones so good. Lava falls are a boring obstacle because all you do to pass is wait a bit. Gas posts basically don't exist as enemies go. Wall flamethrowers aren't interesting. Standing on lava buckets waiting to be carried on pulleys isn't that cool. The only prop I think is especially neat between both areas is the beams you run across with the undulating spike wave. But then the boss fights are horrifically boring and barely even dangerous with oodles of waiting time. The 2nd one you don't even do anything but wait for it to destroy itself. I think both music sets are good and the art is well done, but that's superficial, isn't it?

>>8692983
All levels in Sonic 3 & K where either too easy or too boring, some of them both.
Lava Reef looks nice but it's too easy. You have a flame shield for all the level, so the lava might as well not be there, plus the flame shield also protects from incoming projectiles. You are basically invincible for the whole map.

>>8693423
The Blazing Belgians

>>8693423
The Hot Hungarians

>>8692983
>that act 2 music
soooooooooo fucking good

>>8693423
The Smoldering Scandinavians

>>8692983
Lava Reef Zone was good because right after it you get the cooled out Hidden Palace Zone and the transition to that is really smooth and memorable.

>>8693423
The Ignited Israelites

Wouldn't know never got past sandopolis zone when I was a kid because the ghosts freaked me out

>>8693423
the Vulcanic Vedics

>>8697213
You know you can replay the game as an adult right

>>8697213
How the FUCK did Dr. Robotnik enslave the ghosts of ancient Egyptians?
That means you might not even be let off with dying if he wins. He'll probably steal your soul.

>>8697267
The fact that angry spirits didn't haunt Robotnik for this shows just how rigged the systems are

>>8693423
The Pyroclastic Pinoys

>>8697267
He sucked them all up with a vacuum

>>8692983
>terrible boss

It looks amazing and the music is great, but it has the least amount of flow compared to literally any other Sonic stage, bar none. Yes, even Marble Zone

>>8694021
>I think both music sets are good and the art is well done, but that's superficial, isn't it?
It took me twenty years to realise that's the only reason I like this game at all.

>>8692983
Chemical plant zones is better.

>>8697858
For me, it's No Blood for Oil Zone from Sonic 2 Special Edition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RngA75CFd4Y

>>8692983
>Best Music
That's not Chemical Plant Zone nor Ice Cap Zone nor Stardust Speedway

>>8692983
there is that one spot, a special stage, i never knew how the fuck to get in there. i hope anons know which one i'm talking about. it was near the upper "secret" path with side spings and rings. you then actually go down, there are springs and those things that shoot lava. between the mentioned segments, there is a room that is just out of reach. there is no secret hole from the upper path, and the down's path springs just don't send you high enough to reach it

it was likely a part made for tails, but who the fuck would have known that

>>8692983
it's good, but chemical plant, icecap and flying battery are better.

>>8694021
>Lava falls are a boring obstacle because all you do to pass is wait a bit.

Anon, you can use the flame shield or if you're good at timing, the insta-shield's invincibility frames. Both pass through the lava falls.

It's nice with good music, but no loop pipes or any speed sections. Chemical Plant is the king of zones

>>8701768
I listed them with flamethrowers. Why didn't you object to that? An item making these elements ignorable doesn't succeed in making them interesting, which was the entire point of the post you picked this out of. If you say you can frame-perfect instashield at high speed, good for you, that's got nothing to do with the level design element or ordinary play either and no one on a anonymous vietnamese basketweaving forum cares how much you brag, I'm sorry.

>>8693423
The Spicy Spaniards

Sonic 3 is great. & Knuckles doesn't feel as good (mushroom and sandopolis are both meh; no michael jackson music).

>>8703505
Why you don't like mushroom?

>>8692983
Is this the zone that has the sunken Death Egg station in the cave background and as you progress the level, the Death Egg gets closer? That background effect was kino

>>8703080
>A game mechanic has nothing to do with normal play

>>8693423
It's a volcano. Who builds volcanoes?

>>8693423
Knuckles, and his merry gang of Knuckloids

>>8692983
It has a case