/vr/ - Retro Games

Fuck the blurry Nebula 64 version, play arcade on a cab with proper controls, you nerd

>>8686949
I prefer cruis'n exotica

CRUISIIIIIIN
CRUISIN WOOOOOOORLD
YEYEAH

>>8687052
YOU'VE GOT THE PIECE
YOU'VE GOT THE POWAH

>>8686949
Why is an arcade racing game, a sports game

>>8686956
Not every n64 game is blurry, it depends on the developers.

>>8687094
fuck NEBULA 64 anyway

>>8686949

>>8686949
>n64

>>8686949
Based, one of my favorite games of all time.
>>8686956
N64 version isn’t that blurry and is nearly arcade perfect. I’m sure you could turn off the bi-linear filter in an emulator.
A laundromat near me has the stand-up cabinet. I haven’t been there in over a year. I should see if it’s still there and make them an offer on it.

>N64 version [...] nearly arcade perfect

best vehicle

>>8687454
We still drive them here in Italy

>>8686949
Love all 3 games on the system

>>8687438
graphics don't count, chud

>>8687509
Yep, that's cope.

>>8687541
it's what the phrase arcade perfect means

>>8687454
hell yeah brother

>>8687314

I had this game for the N64, Played it a lot. It wasn't bad as a Ridge Racer game. It was a bit 'off brand' as it was developed by Nintendo's own NST group in Washington, and was a melding of Ridge Racer, Ridge Racer Revolution, with RRT4 cars and aesthetic. Plus it has an original course as well. It has different drift mechanics, but also has a 'classic' RR style play mode. It was ported to the Nintendo DS as Ridge Racer DS.

>>8686956
>woooo
>ah
>woohoo
>ah

>>8687438
sperg, if you are autistic enough to not consider this arcade perfect, especially for a 1998 of a 1996 arcade game, then you are just shitposting.

>>8687082
Motorsports.

>>8686949
>WE'RE GOING TO THE MOON
Its fun but hardly a good racer.

>>8687718
you have a strange idea of what perfect means

>>8686956
Great memories playing this cabinet at the Pizza Hut back in the day.

>>8688815
Lol faggot. I said “nearly” arcade perfect.
https://youtu.be/9dcdClJnIMs
The differences are superficial. They have similar performance and slightly different artistic choices. Biggest thing that sucks about N64 version is no roadkill. Mechanically, as far as I know, they play exactly the same.
There are also romhacks to alter the N64 rom to be even closer to the Arcade version.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/n64-cruisn-world-more-closer-to-the-arcade-version.447100/

>>8687718
>t. console poorfag

>>8686956
I can buy one for 1500 Euros right now. Needs repairs like new monitors and fixing controls. Should it do it?

>>8688815
it's a phrase that's regularly used to mean the game mechanics play the same, it doesn't refer to graphics
also it's pretty funny for a retrogamer to be a stickler for the graphics

>>8686949
thats some shity racing game if you ask me

>>8687094
look at this zoomy who thinks the n64 is all hd like his emulator

>>8687718
>emufag
fucking zoomer who doesn't know the n64 is a shit tier console with shit tier image quality and shit tier fps

>>8687509
>

>>8690175
I’m 29, I had one in 1997 and 9 times out of 10 N64 games looked better than PSX games but okay. The texture filtering only looked shitty on some third party games.
Mr. Faggot was complaining about the N64 port just to complain about it, and you are fucking clueless too.
I suggested that if he didn’t like the texture filtering, he could easily turn it off in an emulator.
Why don’t you chug your daily cumjug?

>>8690203
>I’m 29, I had one
nigger im gona stop you right there, buy a n64, and play it again, and ull see how shity the n64 looks, so stop being a nostalgia fag, ps1 and saturn look better than the n64, and please, kys

>>8690181
>>>8689641

>>8690221
>ull see how shity the n64 looks
again, it's pretty funny to be on the retro board claiming the graphics on old consoles looks bad

>>8690231
Old games look wonderful, what they achieved with such tight constraints deserves praise. N64 games just look ugly because the capabilities of the machine and its priorities were wrongly placed.

>>8690171
The way your just steamrolling my point is how I know you have no idea what your talking about. The crusin series is actually one of crisper clearer games on the console

>>8690221
You are console warring in 2022 as a grown ass man, do you understand what an embarrassing cocksucker you are?
N64 looks absolutely fine on a CRT and I’ve played hundreds/thousands of hours over the years to confirm this.
Why don’t YOU play it again on a CRT and get back to me, faggy sperg.

>>8690221
why do you keep using commas like a complete asshole?

>>8687314
Whoever design the drift mechanics in this game had access to higher dimensional conceptions of fun

>>8690240
but the games look better than PS1 games, as they should it's a more powerful console

>>8690392
They look pretty nasty, PS1 represents a high in a different style of rendering. N64 is much more similar to rendering that would appear on consoles like the PS2 and Dreamcast so it looks like the worst incarnation of that.

>>8690413
N64 is more powerful than the PSX and Saturn in every respect, it’s actually quite a leap. The ONLY reason it has a reputation for “nasty” image quality is from the hardware texture filtering which is basically rendered null on a CRT in most cases, and not every Dev enabled it, and in rare cases, it was an optional toggle (Quake 64).

>>8690307
why are seething so much?

>>8690231
>was talking about the image quality
why are n64fags so retarded?

>>8690276
>how I know you have no idea what your talking about.
unlike you I used to own a n64 and it was the worst console ive ever seen
>image quality is shit
>lots of pixels, lots of them
>shity sound quality
>fps dropping every 10 sec
>stick is horrible and broken
>no analogue triggers baka
>battery save
>fog
neck urself emufag

>>8690475
you first

>>8690443
>N64 is more powerful
Mostly on paper, in practice this matters very little as the majority of that power is spent with overly ambitious 64-bit precision on vertex sorting, an aggressive anti-aliasing, and aggressive texture filtering on the lowest resolution textures of its contemporaries. In practice the games have objectively cut down rendering distances, objectively cut down polycounts, objectively cut down texture use and resolution. It's responsible for the delusion that early 3D games have aged poorly. Games look blurry and run terribly on any sort of display. That's just how the console works. It wasn't the time to target that type of rendering and the sacrifices it had to make compared to a platform with a surprisingly similar architecture, the PS1, it was definitely not worth it. The PS1 is two years older yet poly counts could be much higher at less cost to performance. 60fps 3D games weren't a pipedream that cost stereo sound as a sacrifice. The N64 is architected poorly and its focus was hitting a price point to turn a profit on hardware sold.

>>8690290
>You are console warring in 2022 as a grown ass man, do you understand what an embarrassing cocksucker you are?
N64 looks absolutely fine on a CRT and I’ve played hundreds/thousands of hours over the years to confirm this.
Why don’t YOU play it again on a CRT and get back to me, faggy sperg.

all i can see is you seething and still putting ur faggynostalgia in this, look faggot, im not gonna repeat myself, so, get a n64, get a ps1 or saturn, compare them, then come back ok? if you do that ull see that ur n64 has actually some shity image quality, bad fps, shity sound and bad res. i sold mine bc of how shity it looked, i used to have extreme g, but couldnt play it bc of the constant fps drops, fog, bad res and image quality. I really don't know who u faggots can call that good, you guys must be retarded or something. anyways, stay mad while i play hydro thunder running at 60fps on my dc in vga

>>8690392
no

>>8690443
>N64 is more powerful than the PSX and Saturn
hows ur 4 megagay cartridges doing?

>>8690483
I dare you to port CBFD to PS1 you little nigger.
>>8690485
Polycounts could be higher, but 99/100 times they weren’t.
PS1 had texture warping, N64 never had this issue because it could properly render 3D.
Environments could not be as large due to how the PlayStation drew polygons.
N64 essentially had a voodoo equivalent running inside of it, and when utilized properly, the best N64 games always trumped the best PS1 games in fidelity.
I had both consoles as a kid, I’m not a brand cultist, both consoles had impressive looking games but N64 could do more within it’s cartridge limitations and I could even see that back then.

>>8690515
>muh i dar u to port this game that never came out on ps1 bc i know that it would be much better

I dare you to port tomb raider 4 on the n64 then

>>8690520
I’m sure the OpenLara guys will do just that lol.
The PS1 could not render CBFD.

>>8690483
I actually use a retrotink5x. But so what? If you up the resolution and make the game look better why not just do it? There's no way for me to add polygons into ps1 games

>>8690502
I have all three and having been playing them frequently, and while sometimes when I switch to n64 I do say this looks blurry, the graphics on the n64 just have solidity to them that Saturn and ps1 can't do.

>>8690545
sure
>game is over 500m

>>8690558
theres bleem cast faggot, and if you want to go down that road youll know that some emulators make ps1 games look better than n64 games, bc n64 games have some of the worst textures i have ever seen, shit looks like puke

>>8690376
>>>8687314
>Whoever design the drift mechanics in this game had access to higher dimensional conceptions of fun

RR64 does have the option for classic RR drift or RR Revolution styled. But its default RR drift mechanics are a bit of a departure. The game is basically a remake of the first two RR games with Type 4 features thrown in.

https://youtu.be/YSlx2bMhYew?t=153

>>8690515
>Polycounts could be higher, but 99/100 times they weren’t.
They were, PS1 simply had higher throughput. Models were more detailed as were environments. If anything due to leveraging the lack of precision of the polygons, the polycounts had to be higher. Denying this is simply a lie and by your own admission it's not a lie from ignorance but from a desire to spread misinformation.
>PS1 had texture warping, N64 never had this issue because it could properly render 3D.
At great cost, texture warping is a minimal issue especially by the time the two consoles were competing against each other. This factors into the higher poly counts of PS1 games.
>Environments could not be as large due to how the PlayStation drew polygons.
This is a lie, they could be and they could also be more well defined. The truth is the PS1 couldn't do huge singular polygons without warping due to the lack of floating points. This is easily addressed either with untextured shaded surfaces or subdivision which was extremely popular.
>N64 essentially had a voodoo equivalent
This is a complete fabrication.
>I could even see that back then.
Simply, games like Terracon, Mega Man Legends 2 (the intro especially), Omegaboost, and even earlier titles like FF7's battles were not possible on the N64's hardware. These games leverage the strengths of the PS1 to an extreme degree and do all kinds of tricks that the N64 would not be capable of, even with many of its limitations like cartridge size alleviated.

>>8690586
have u seen the res tho? and fps drops? look at vf2, how smooth it is and how sharp it looks, ull never see such game on the n64. I know that the n64 is more powerfull (on paper) but on practice its just bad, bc nintendo didn't want to change the format, they kept using cartridges

>>8690515
>PS1 had texture warping
but not the saturn

>>8690175
go back to your wobbly ps1 textures

>>8690443
>N64 is more powerful
Doesn't mean jack shit when it's all bottlenecked by a 4kb texture cache an an objectively worse processor compared to PSX/Saturn.
I'd rather have load times that result in 30fps than shit textures with shit vaseline filtering that runs at 20fps.

>>8690619
jokes on you, I'm a saturnfag

>>8690629
this anon describes it well

Now this is the best racing game.

>>8690601
if PS1 was so good then it would have had the full Rayman 2 levels instead of cropped ones it has.

>>8690836
If the N64 was good it would've had the original Rayman 2 prototype as a bonus.

>>8690836
It's just Rayman 2. Who cares?

>>8690813
what a faggot

>>8690836
dreamcast was better

>>8691025
GX physics are just fucked. It's good but not the best.

>>8691030
actually i dont know never played them, i prefer aero gauge

>>8690485
>It's responsible for the delusion that early 3D games have aged poorly.

I'm with you for the most part but come on mang those old 3D games look uuuuuugly. Even the pretty ones look at least somewhat ugly. I'm not into the "game aging" concept and many of those games are good to play, but I don't know a single one that's good to look at, unless you come to it generously like a dumb kid would, which you should do because like I said the games are good (some of them anyway) and that's what matters most. Age tag on myself to maybe stop a few hair-trigger "you're a zoomer" reactions: I am 41 and was just old enough when these consoles came out to NOT be 100% childishly dazzled by even ugly 3D graphics, though I was certainly quite dazzled. And so once the strongest of the dazzling wore off me, I noticed on some level how ugly they were. 3D console games didn't start looking good until the next console generation.

>>8686956
>flips a literal switch to turn off hardware blur
>uses gameshark code to turn off software blur
Woooooooooooow so hard. Truly the dark souls of graphics

>>8690502
i have all three and it looks fine
your personal preference isn't universal and seething about it won't change that

>>8691213
> it looks fine
are ur eyes gay?

>>8690813
/thread

What's going on in this thread, losers?

>>8691258
not much, I heard ur version was pretty shity

>>8690601
Everything you said is false fanboyism and you are a fucking idiot if you think N64 couldn’t render a FF7 battle lol. It would look closer to the original PC release on N64 though you couldn’t do the entire game on carts of course. Rendering the battle though? Easy.
I like both consoles, stop being a faggot about the N64 and claiming it couldn’t do what the PS1 could do. N64 has hardware accelerated 3D and pushes out literally five times the polygons per second than the PS1 can.
For the record, I think the PS1 is a great console with many games that look better to the eye than N64, your claim of the N64 being junk and the PS1 as being graphically superior is ridiculous.
>>8690592
They have it running on a GBA. Clever compression got us the entirety of RE2 on a 64meg cart. TR4 is definitely possible.
>>8690629
That was a major design flaw but in practice didn’t make that large of an impact. In most cases they just used more textures instead of larger ones if the devs wanted to take that route.

>>8691289
>t. zoomer never touched an n64 before and doesn't know what hes talking about

>>8691294
Do you want to see my driver’s license you fat ugly virgin? I’m 29 as stated.

>>8691305
>zoomer is mad and still never touched an n64 in his life

>>8691315
You have no argument and a micropenis, take a nap in your mom’s basement and think about what a stinky little nigger you’re being.

>>8691325
>have no argument
I have some, but do you?

>>8691335
Yes, I made about 3 or 4 compelling arguments you illiterate incel and I did so without saying “PS1 sucks” because it doesn’t, you are just a fucking manbaby faggot.

>>8691437
kek ur really mad, what argument did you made? the n64 is a total piece of shit deal with it, ps1 saturn and dreamcast are better

>>8690483
>>lots of pixels, lots of them
This would mean the picture quality is good, not bad as you're trying to say, you drooling retard.

>>8691447
Basic bitch troll faggot, I’m done arguing with you, go suck your mom’s clit old man or she won’t give you an extra slice of lasagna tonight.

>>8691469
im talking about the res actually

>>8691471
yep thats it, hes mad

>>8691469
well yes i guess that was retarded but you know what i mean, and you know its true

>>8687082

Hemingway said that the only sports were mountain climbing, bullfighting, and auto racing. Everything else is just a game.

>>8686949
>"Oh sweet a Cruis'n threa-"
>Devolved into console war faggotry
World is the best game in the series along side with Exotica

>>8691859
you just hate to see it

>>8691859
segautists are the scum of the board

>>8693561
you mad?

YEAAAAHHHH
WOAH WOAHHH
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH
WOAHHHH WO-HO

>>8693654
It was a good port.

>>8693654
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrr....CRUIS'NNNNN YEEEEEEEAAAAHHH CRUIS'N USA, YEAH!

>>8694657
CHOOSE YOUR CAR

>zero discussion of the Cruis'n game series just N64 shitposting
fuck you all

>>8686949
That moon circuit tho. Fucking amazing music too, makes me want to kiss a french girl in the early 2000.

https://youtu.be/LiWNVwB1ir0

>>8694987
/vr/ is soon to be another dead board.

>>8694987
the same saturn autismo shitted up the n64 thread, i hate that i cannot talk about games without having to deal with shitty trolls and spergs like those.

>>8686949
BOOBA

I don't get racing games. Some you have to use the brake button. Some you just have to mash acceleration. Some you have to drift. Some have TWO brake buttons. And then some you just have to hold down onto acceleration and slam into walls.

I don't get it. How do you know how to play these games?