/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8660809
As Inafune fucking lost his mind, his son Rockman lost his status.

he never was Capcom's mascot, that was Captain Commando.

what is "unfair" about the financials finally tipping the other way after a 20 year run? it's inevitable.

There's nothing that capcom could have done differently. The only way mega man could maintain his position as the company's mascot in the modern day would be to make his games narrative based or open world or something. Mega man in name only. We should be glad the series died before we got a chance to hate him.

>>8660876
They could have released Dash 3 if Inafune didn't fuck his legacy up with awful titles through the early 00s after he got a hard on for Oblivion.

>>8660809
I'm yet to decide on that.

>>8660809
yes

>>8660809
well the games are still comin out, right? i mean sure, it's with years in between em, and it's not like there's ever gonna be another six on one console, but still.

>>8660882
True. Legends is really more of a sure fire hit in the modern era than any other Megaman series. The one thing holding those games back was being a product of an era where 3D game design still tended on the slightly janky side. It could very easily be worked into something more akin to modern Zelda or Nier. Not sure why Capcom are so reluctant to give it another try.

Never was. When I think Capcom I think Street Fighter.

>>8660809
everyone that replaced him as capcom's mascot won fair and square.

>>8660809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKXF_HM2PFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ufVQIUEiYc
Yes Mega Man was crapcons mascot in the 90s but they abandoned him to cash in on shitty zombie fps.
2000 was the end of megaman and soul. Unfortunately Crapcon and Inafune were idiots and made several stupid decisions regarding the series and games. They forgot how to make fun games or lost all the talent they used to have in the 90s.

>>8661243
We already know Legends 3 would've controlled well because Capcom used its engine and control scheme for EX Troopers

Megaman being the mascot doesn't mean Megaman games have to be the company's best known product. Capcom may be best known for SF but MM was there long before it.
Hell, Irem's mascot was Rocky goddamn Rodent. Rare's mascot was Mr. Pants. Sunsoft's? Aero the Acrobat.

>>8661454
I love me some SF, but Capcom's fighting game division was dead for almost as long as the Blue Bomber.

>>8660876
Maybe not making a game every year would help, forcing them to shurn out Megaman 5 (1992), Megaman 6 (1993), X5 (2000) and X6 (2001) especially when the latter already had sequels in the form of Megaman Zero are examples.of pushing it.

Games were selling and were quick to make, they probably were using the Megaman money to fund other games, but still, it came at the cost of Megaman's own reputation, imagine if the only X games were X1, X2, X4 and X8 (with some edits), not having to go through shovelware like X6 and X7 would certainly make Megaman be on a better position at the time.

Mega Man could have survived if they solved 3D.

>>8661890
Megaman was on a decent position... If you look at the GBA.
MMZ and especially Battle Network kept the Megaman name afloat around that timeframe, in fact BN was the most popular Megaman ever was not counting MM2 and X1, but unlike those games the popularity lasted basically half decade instead of just 1 or 2 years, only problem is that the main target audience was rather disconected from previous Megaman games, it was about new kids rather than late teens/adults that grew up with the NES/SNES.

>>8660816
>Inafune's son
You dumb faggots are the reason people thought mighty number 9 had potential.

>>8661871
>Capcom may be best known for SF but MM was there long before it.
Mega Man 1 was 3 years before SF2, definitely not that long, specially considering that Mega Man 2 was the one that really put the franchise on the map

Why is it that Mega Man could get away with exploring much darker themes, plotlines, and characters in later entries, whereas Sonic the Hedgehog was roundly mocked for doing the same thing?

>>8661958
You could see the earlier Classic games as the technology still developing and that's why the robots look cute and have Willy has simple plots, but as the robots continue to develop so do the complexity of their situation and their designs.
Sonic is about a blue hedgehog running on a green hill, doing that same process is not impossible but it's certainly more delicate to be convincing.

>>8661958
Well Mega Man is a Man and Sonic is just a gay hedgehog.

>>8661958
Because sonic is a faggot and his fans are faggots

>>8661958
I like Sonic but man is it obvious... Mega Man games were actually good. Sonic has been consistently objectively BAD for almost 15+ years

>>8661958
Stop posting this fucking pasta. We already told you why.

Blue astro boy was hardly a novel idea for the slanty eyed nation

>>8660809
He never was Capcom's mascot

>>8661890
X8 is almost as bad as X6 and I'm tried of people giving it a free pass because X7 was before it

>>8662809
It just has too many gimmicky stages, none of which feels as unfair and broken like X6 stages.

>>8661958
A couple reasons I think. The main one is that writing 'evil/dark' stories is quite hard and often comes across as stupid in these kinds of settings.

People mostly didn't mind in SA1/2. Stuff like Black Knight is generally praised for the story and these are 'serious' comparatively.

I think the difference is Sonic lent too far into gratuitous edgy shit and allowed you to play AS the edgy characters. In Megaman and the non-hated 'dark' Sonic games it's still ultimately good vs evil, the heroes are heroes and good wins in the end. X/Zero/Sonic/Tails are always good guys and as long as the narrative largely follows that no one really cares. The edgiest Megaman gets is probably Zero 1 and that was still told from the perspective of Zero who is an unambiguously heroic character and the morally dubious characters are always antagonists. If you played as Copy X geocoding reploids or something people would rightly balk at it and and call it stupid/edgy. Even when you played as 'evil' characters in SA2 the only one who is still evil at the end of the game is Eggman and it concludes with him working for the good guys anyway and the good guys winning.

>>8660876
Capcom already did that with Legends.

>>8660836
>just noticed capt's name
I can't believe I didn't make the connection sooner?

>>8660816
>his son

>>8660882
Dash 3 getting canned was on the fault of that new Capcom Room getting decreasing support over time.

>>8660836
Captain Commando was invented by burgers so no.

>>8661958
Because even if we had things like the x4 horrible dubs, mega man just does it better.
X4 story itself is interesting until the inevitable sigma reveal, and zero series just curbstomp any sonic story.

>>8663047
I don't need high writing, I just want something that is enjoyable to follow.

>>8661958
good writing

>>8660809
Capcom's mascot was Mobi-Chan.

>>8661958
Fuck off with this shit, you've made five threads already

>>8661965
Me on the left