/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8657364
What did you find so difficult about it?

>>8657389

Bomberman I for the NES kinda sucks. The levels are all the same fuck huge size, and the beginning is really slow since you have no power ups: you can't chain bombs, and if you've blown up too many blocks, enemies will never stay put, and to make matters worse there's a time limit. The trick is to trap them against a corner, leaving as many blocks as possible. But the first game just kinda sucks. Bomberman II, Bomberman 90, and Bomberman 93 are much better versions of the old school formula, and then the Super series, 94, and Saturn are even more fun. I actually prefer the GB remake of the first game, included as "Game B" in Atomic Punk, or as "Bomber Man" in the Japanese version Bomber Boy. The level sizes were reduced and for some reason the FOV actually feels nice even though the screen is smaller.

The cool thing about the first two games though was the insanely OP power up that made you immune to fire, allowing you to spam your own bombs without taking damage. Later games would reduce this to a hazard suit which gave you 10-15 seconds of invincibility, but the flame-proof power up lasted indefinitely, as long as you didn't die.

>>8657454
shut up bitch

you couldn't look up a longplay of it to see what to do?

>>8657482
In 1992? No.

>>8657491
it's 2022.

>>8657493
Impressive that you know that. I played it in 1992

>>8657364
Game revolves around the walk-through-bricks and remote-bomb power-ups, just endure the first levels until you get them, then the game is significantly easier

>>8657501
sucks to be you lmao
lol

>>8657508
Yeah. Game is trash, wasted money buying it.

>>8657520
it's from 1986 and didn't even have a mapper. give it a little break here.

>>8657454
I agree with you wholly.
93 94 and Saturn are good ones.
NES is basic bitch and Hudson couldn't do what they wanted to do. They COULD do what they wanted on their own console.
>PCE isn't Hudson's console
Yes it is.

>go on Ebay
>check prices for SNES Bombe...
Fuck this.

>>8657454
I don't like when people describe Bomberman like a software product that is made outdated by later versions. I've never tried Bomberman I, but what you describe sounds very strategic and engaging.

>>8657883
>buying physical
coomlectors deserve the future they chose

>>8657883
I found that almost anything made by a Japanese dev is grossly overpriced while Western games particularly licensed stuff is cheap.

>>8657887
Those same strategies are used in II, 90, and 93. The old-school games all had just one power up per stage so they were just as slow. But what made them more fun is that they had more variants in level design, some were basic squares, some were scrolling horizontally, some scrolled vertically, they had better music, graphics, and 90 and 93 had boss fights, and 93 has some of the most challenging fights in the entire series. Just trust me as somebody that's played them all that the first one with a never changing level design, a six second audio loop, and slow gameplay isn't as good. If you want the old-school experience and you want to play on the NES, II is the much better experience. 93 is my personal favorite of all the older ones.

>>8657927
>>8657887
Oh and if you really want to play the first one, as I said earlier I think the GB remake (NOT the GBA port) is really good. I do like the enemies and the bonus rounds of the first one and I just find it more enjoyable on the GB

>>8657782
no it's not lol

>>8657947
1985 on famicom

>>8657947
There's something so wholesome about retards not caring when they're wrong

>>8657938
Thank you for the advice

>>8658034
I'M GONNA BOOOMB

For me, it's Dynablaster for DOS

For me, it’s Eric & the Floaters for me Speccy

>>8658239
this is a port of the original PC-88 Bomberman IIRC

>>8658245
yep

For me, It's Bomberkids for the TI-89

The game sucks, don't bother with it. Entire loop is
>pray you get your first 2 upgrades, bomb explosion size increase and manual detonation before timer runs out
>get as many bomb upgrades
>get ability to pass through bricks
>dont die and if you do reset the game
>do it 50 times
>game cleared
Skip to 2, it's more fair but suffers from the same issues

Does anybody have that copy pasta of made up ZX spectrum games games Eric and the floaters is the only one that's real?

>>8657364
It was an early Famicom game. It wasn't designed to be a deep, engrossing experience, but instead a very puzzle-like arcade game that you're supposed to play over and over again as you religiously study the strategy guide (sold separately).

the programmer reportedly did the Famicom version in a marathon 72 hour session

>>8657364
I quit after stage 6 because I got bored of it. It's strange because I love all of the later games, but the first NES entry is a bit too simple for my liking.
It's a classic, not going to deny that, but it's just a okay game. II on the same system is an improvement in every way.

>>8658446
>strategy guides in a pre-internet world are bad, actually

>>8657883
Its fucking bomberman, buy a 3 dollar jap copy you turd.

>>8657883
I checked now and there were two listings, one $60 and the other $75

>>8658484
Wouldn't he also need an adapter to play it on a US SNES?

>>8658520
just yank out the region-blocking tabs with some pliers

>>8657470
Based.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=915VXjd4Ta4

>>8658446
nigga the game is simple as fuck, you don't need any strategy guide, OP is just a shitter

>>8658448
As all kino should be
>>8658937
Yeah, it really is. But like a lot of Japanese arcade style games, there's a surprising number of cryptic shit, like bonus items that show up only after doing stuff you'd never guess like running around the perimeter of a level after defeating all the enemies but only on stage 13 or whatever. Stuff like that would probably get collected, but it was more fun to discover them yourself or spread by word of mouth

is there a hack of megaman featuring bomberman as a boss with vertical platforming stage?

>>8657364
I played through the whole game once. It was tedious as hell.

>>8658596
or snip the tabs on a game genie

>>8659409
It's pretty short as long as you don't die and you have the wall-through, remote control, and flame-proof powerups

Japanese love puzzle games like this but they've never really caught on with Westerners.

>>8660650
Bomberman was popular in the 90s in America, especially the N64 games

>>8660650
I'm still baffled by all the versions of Mahjong video games ever released. I refuse to believe there was a market for that shit.

>>8660650
We like platformers and beat-em-ups more because Westerners like the idea of controlling a self-insert hero who singlehandedly defeats the forces of darkness and all that. It goes back to Greek mythology.

>>8660654
Yet chess, poker, Uno, and solitaire titles make sense?

>>8660650
When I was a kid I always thought being able to actuall throw bombs around (without needing powerups) should've been the norm. It's just not a good singleplayer game.

>>8660829
But why? The bomb throw is probably the least useful ability. Bomb kick is much better.

>>8661076
If you had a grenade would you throw it, put it down on the ground or kick it across the floor?

>>8661082
Kick it. It goes much further: all the way to the end of the screen, it instantly paralyzes the enemies, and even instant kills some of them. The bomb throw only goes at most 3 tiles away. It's only useful for throwing over a soft block.

Also, the game would be way too easy if you started with these power ups. Might as well start with the detonator too.

>>8661098
Throwing bombs can send them skipping over a lot of blocked terrain. It also stuns enemies it lands on an kills them before they can recover.
Either way, whatever allows you to simply attack at range by actually tossing the damn things at enemies would've made more sense than just putting them on the ground and then running away.

>>8661107
But mastering the timing of your attacks are the basic foundation of the game, what sets it apart from every other game. You still have time based attacks with range weapons or with the detonator, but these are upgrades, they make you feel stronger and they make you care about playing intensely and not dying, there'd be no stakes or upping the gameplay if you started out with them or if you never lost them.

>>8657364
I've been playing this lately emulated on the wii with a cube controller, shits fun but you need to be patient and kind of autistic and like me who likes to bomb everything on screen to get the powerups, once you start moving faster, getting longer explosions and pass thru walls things get funny, you also learn to watch the enemy behaviour and trick them to their doom, you can also detonate the bombs manually

>>8661441
don't you only get one powerup per level in this?

>>8661530
Yes. This game, Bomberman II, 90, and 93 are like that. Once you get to Super and 94 you get multiple power ups per level, and enemies drop power ups too if you defeat them a certain way.

>>8657398

>>8661602
>>8657398
Every bomberman player has done this at least once

>get flameproof
>blow up and hold A
can't even lose now

>>8661119
If the franchise can't evolve then it's dead for a reason.

>>8663423
I don't know how you got that from my post. I'm arguing against stagnation, I'm arguing for progressively better gameplay. And the series has had multiple games that broke the formula and explored different genres: the 3 US 64 games (Action Adventure and Platforming), Bomberman Generation (Action Adventure), Pocket Bomberman (Platformer), Bomberman Quest, Bomberman Tournament, Bomberman Story (RPGs), Bomberman Wars (SRPG), Bomberman Fight (Fighting), Bomberman Fantasy Racing (Racing), Bomberman Land, Bomberman Jetters (party games), Panic Bomber (puzzle), and the most recent game Bomber Girl is also a totally different take on the series. Then you have the old mainline games that all introduce new elements each title, like switch puzzles, rideable animals, charaboms, interactive stage elements, hazards, boss fights, non linear stage progression, co-op sidekicks, and so on

>>8657398
you get used to it after a while

>>8659318
I remember randomly coming across a Ninja Jajamaru Japanese let's play and on a certain level, if you go on the top of the level and bonk your head several times right under the villain or in the right corner, you get a shitload of points