/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461
Current release
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18le6ho89YT_myg8CiUUk2mw1439zPyyJ/view

=== NEWS ===
[02-12] Co-op arrows mod for Zandronum
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=10520

[02-10] Powerslave Exhumed trailer dropped
https://youtu.be/PzaWiD-tjMI

[02-09] Doom Shinobi releases February 13th
https://youtu.be/6ec6FHhHDII

[02-09] Underdark Overbright (with Copper) added to the Nightdive Quake port
https://twitter.com/Quake/status/1491464634913763331

[02-07] DBP43: Japanese Valentines is out now
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2432/japanese-valentines

[02-01] /vr/ Mondo Project announced
>>8584531

[01-30] John W. Galt has passed away
https://twitter.com/E1M1magazine/status/1487866897551044608

[01-30] ModOhFun! 3.4 - Released
https://darsycho.itch.io/modohfun/devlog/340835/modohfun-34-released

[01-29] Doom Delta version 2.4.0b released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1211719#p1211719

[01-29] GZDoom engine Beyond Sunset demo released
https://metacorp.itch.io/beyond-sunset

[01-28] Powerslave/Exhumed is coming February 10
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/1486906914017583108

[01-26] Romero's doing a post-mortem for Wolfenstein 3D at GDC
https://www.gdconf.com/news/john-romero-presents-wolfenstein-3d-postmortem-gdc-2022

[01-23] EXODUS for doom released
https://youtu.be/YI6EV7_cv6I

[01-23] GZDoom engine FPS Mala Petaka demo released
https://youtu.be/SHK3Iv71jpY

[01-22] Blood 2 developer disc found
https://twitter.com/benmcoleman/status/1483182402847473665

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>>8624125

>>8624125

>>8624125
whoa caco, lay off the soulspheres

>>8624097
This two-eyed PE is terrifying. I feel like it can see into my soul.

How much should one worry about the newschool and oldschool sourceports? I want to finish the original games and then play the classic wads, but also the more "modern" ones for a change.

>>8624430
Doom for once is opensource so most of the ports that aren't gzDoom are faithful.
Build engine games had to be reverse engineered so everything is wonky.
I'm not sure about Quake.

>>8624436
>Build engine games had to be reverse engineered so everything is wonky
Wrong you little sperg, but keep talking shit.

Blood: yes, because Atari sits on the code or lost it

DN3D and SW: no. those were released into PD and Silverman himself did the first port of the engine.

Also your mother is "wonky", you lying rear gunner

>>8624436
>>8624450
Please refrain from spreading misinformation and inciting drama. Thank you.

>>8624450
Russian AI has some weird ideas about what Duke Nukem looks like.

>>8624436
>Doom for once is opensource so most of the ports that aren't gzDoom are faithful
What makes it non-faithful other than opengl?

>>8624508
Lots of minor changes. Some for the better, some not.

>>8624471
*ahem*
EAT DICK AND CRY

>>8624508
There are a few details that are different even if you set it up to use the strict Doom compatibility setting. The ones I can remember are autoaim being a bit better in GZDoom and RNG working different. Although those are things most wouldn't really care about unless they're speedrunners or purists.

>>8624097
Somehow more disturbing that the previous OP's pic. Well done.

>>8624436
Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Rise Of The Triad, Heretic, Hexen, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, and Shadow Warrior, are all open source, and most of them have convenient sourceports to let you play them on a modern computer.
Powerslave isn't open source I think, but it just got a new official port. Doom 64 isn't open source, but there's an old free PC port of it, as well as a new official port which also adds a new episode of levels (being available on consoles, also).

>>8624430
It literally doesn't matter if you're not a sourceport autist.

>>8624516
>>8624543
Is there possibly a list where you can read up on this? Would the small changes in any case ruin certain map experiences?

>>8624592
>Would the small changes in any case ruin certain map experiences?
Yes, some conveyor belts and voodoo scripting can get fucked up and lilith.wad is unplayable on GZD (by design).
For regular Doom 1/2 it really doesn't make any difference at all.

>>8624501
That isn't Duke Nukem, that's the Duke of Nukem. Learn the difference, it may save your life.

>>8624508
Collision, random number table... For two.

When's SNS tonight and what's on tap?

First attempt at a full walk cycle for a Looking Glass generated enemy, using the pinky as the main base with mancubus and some Castlevania enemies mixed in to try and flesh out some of the angles.

>>8624743

>>8624743

>>8624743
That is fucking horrifying

>>8624743
BRB, replacing pants.
This would make a great NinjaPirate in HDest.

>>8624743

>>8624743
This is what I expect in real Hell

>>8624753
>sequel ultimate zandronum

So, whatever happened to GOOME anon?
I liked the attack helicopters.

>>8624730
6:00 pm est, Valiant.

>>8624707
>>8624608
Thanks I looked some things up and it seems like the newschool (gzdoom) ports changed quite a bit that might affect gameplay more than you expect. So I've decidedl to stay away from it for now.

>>8624753

Don't mind me.
Just waiting for Ion Fury aftershock

>>8624771

>>8624743
yeah, we need a full wad with enemies like this

So everyone can finally agree Powerslave is overated?

Doom 64 and Turok 1+2 remastered just solidified they are amazing games that got greatly enhanced.

Powerslave Exhumed is just "meh". Yeah it's good having it at 60fps I guess but it's not going to blow people's minds.

>>8624430
You only ever really need three sourceports:
>Crispy Doom for original games (Doom, Heretic, Hexen & Strife if you can compile it)
>Woof for most Doom-only wads (but you have to read up on launch parameters and complevels_
>GZDoom for maximum mod compatibility

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME! Tonight we're playing through Valiant: Vaccinated Edition with Samsara! We're also trying out our new Say Sounds mod, which triggers sounds when specific words are said in chat. Join with Zandronum.
**I can't get into the rcon to change the name right now, so the server is still called "/vr/ Waiting Room". Please search this phrase to join. If I can change it later it'll be called "Sunday Night Shitshow #51".
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

Playthrough video of map06 of Ad Mortem is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLrRFGzI9j4

>>8624850
why should I use woof over stuff like prboom+ or dsda?

>>8624846
Generally it's a great game, but I hate the massive hitboxes, enemy/ item respawn and the shitty platforming sections (where you have to jump at the right moment, glide at the right moment but also have the proper angle otherwise you're going to fall in the lava/ acid and insta-die and have to replay the entire level, fuck you).
If I die even once to the platforming, I skip all the enemies because it literally does not matter if I kill them or not.

>>8624858
PrBoom+ is kinda shit, basically. Woof is the hot new meme that's the same thing but less shit, and has compatibility for extra DeHackEd stuff that essentially nobody has used.

>>8624852
UPDATE: fixed the server name, please search for the usual Sunday Night Shitshow server. Not sure what's up on my end

>>8624743
Looks awesome, would fit in a spookier atmosphere wad like Nihility.

>>8624858
Woof and DSDA are the best sourceports atm.
They both have mbf21 complevel.
I simply prefer Woof because it doesn't use prboom+ as a base, which means it doesn't have any inherited weirdness/ bloat.

>>8624850
Thanks anon, saved me some time.

>>8624846
Console Powerslave is overrated. Build Powerslave is underrated.

>>8624508
Inherently, GzDoom uses true RNG over the original game's deterministic pseudo-RNG. In practice, this difference is extremely subtle and approximations are great, but it does entail GzDoom not being compatible with vanilla demo recordings. The tradeoff is that it's a lot more modding friendly.
GzDoom uses a much more accurate and reliable hit detection, among many things preventing the occasional Mancubus fireball from ignoring walls, attacks from occasionally stopping midair for no discernible reason, and making player melee a lot more functional (in vanilla, it's awkward and clunky to try to melee monsters with big hitboxes).

Things which are adjustable in options is stuff like monsters and players not being 'infinitely tall', which actually means that monster melee range isn't vertically infinite, and that players and monsters can now pass above and below each other if there is space for that. In practice, this can give the player SOME advantages in SOME scenarios, but what it also does is allow flying monsters to freely pass over ground monsters which normally would have impeded their progress, which can make SOME encounters more difficult. In short, this one is kind of a 'double-edged sword' for how it goes both ways.
You have freelook with the option of disabling auto-aim, as well as jumping and crouching, and these can obviously be exploited in numerous ways, but I feel that I can just avoid using them when it's obvious I should (ergo breaking intended map sequence).
A big appeal with Doom is how it can be so very altered and personalized, though, so if you think using those kinds of things would be fun, by all means use them, as long as you're conscious about their nature.

>>8624880
>it doesn't have any inherited weirdness/ bloat.
?

Nice going sweaties

>holding m1 destroys server

>>8624941
>>8624951
What exactly happened?

>>8624852
game machine broke

>>8624953
Server died :((

>>8624959
Well yes but what broke it? What character caused the crash?

>>8624960
it couldn't handle duke's massive balls of steel

>>8624953
I was just spamming tomed hell staff because it literally costs 1 cell. That's too much raindrops for zandy, apparently.

>>8624852
I've made a backup TSPG server, just regular valiant with vrskins and sns_stuff. Join and let's try this one more time.
104.128.49.2:10756
104.128.49.2:10756
104.128.49.2:10756

>>8624964
Fantastic man, was just getting into it, see you there.

>>8624958
BIH FIX DAT SHIH

>>8624927
Thanks for all the info. It really does seem to be a double edged sword when it comes to gzdoom.

>>8625019
GZDoom pros
>mods, modding, and all the stuff that comes with it
>plays 95% of all maps correctly
>can make it look like old doom if you want, or can rice the fuck out of it
GZDoom cons
>multiplayer is shit on a stick
>no demos, not 100% vanilla accurate
>performs 100x worse than normal ports which can run at tens of thousands of FPS on modern machines
Oh yes, such a double edged sword. Those two lists are equivalent. Yep.

>>8625041
Except from the rng it changes I meant the way its setup by default, and how some settings can work in your favour for some cases others not.

Doom Shinobi still isn't out yet so I tried Doom Fighters in the meantime and it's actually really fun. Little things like being able to pick up and throw barrels, enemies flying into other enemies from your dash kick or throw dealing damage, and enemy health bars like an old beat-em-up add a lot. Finding where the Captured Marine and Crucible are hidden is fun too. Doom level design is oddly fitting for the gameplay too, playing through Episode 1 with a completely different combat style and camera is still a breeze. Very impressive and makes me excited for Shinobi even more.

Sadly loading up other games with Fighters active doesn't work properly, mostly because non-Doom enemies don't seem to be able to be grabbed (and of course there's no barrels/Crucibles/Marines).

anybody play poogers yet?

>>8624097
Just finished Dusk for the first time the other day and I Enjoyed it.

>>8625041
Demos? Like as in a demoscene?

>>8625193
Most of my enjoyment of it hinged on the music.

>>8625041
>>performs 100x worse than normal ports which can run at tens of thousands of FPS on modern machines
In some contexts. I have a shit computer but I mostly only notice bad performance in some particularly grand and huge Boom maps.

>>8625203
50 year old detected

>>8624852
Thanks for joining as always.

>>8625284
>>8625203

>>8625289
GGs, have fun with golf guys. I'm going to bed

>>8625289
Was awesome people, will play mapset on my own. Hellshots when?

>>8625292
What's your fucking beef with computer tech demos?

>>8625289
>first sunday night shitshow
>join just as everyone leaves
Damn. At least I got to join in on some braptastic gameplay though.

>>8625204
Hulshult being good at ambient music actually kinda surprised me, considering how much he was associated with Brutal Doom and le rip and tear metal remixes. That and its shotguns are probably the best I've used in any game.

>>8625302
>>8625309
It's still going. Sunday Night Shitshow #51.8 is the name

>>8625345
fug

>>8625345
Shit, where's the saysounds download

Sand squids? Why not.
https://files.catbox.moe/nkvmz2.webm

It's up:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-shinobi

ok, go

>>8625407
Fuckin Metroids.

>>8625572
Super Mario With Guns.

Minor platforming and demon shooting paired with Mario sounds, textures and music

>>8625572
Bite-sized maps with hotstarts

>>8625572
94 Protons of /vr/, 25 Frags of /vr/, /boards/.wad, Rekkr project, valentines co-op mapping project, all the other stillborn ideas

>>8625524
I have no words

>>8624852
>the knight train: should add god from monty python and the holy grail
Wait, so what did you mean by this?

>>8625621
https://youtu.be/sXE8LdXzeHM?t=7

>>8625628
Are you telling me I should add this to vrsounds?

>>8625630
Yeah, I like God's GET ON WITH IT.

>>8625634
*Inhale* I LITERALLY ASKED IN THE THREAD FOR YOU TO REQUEST SOUNDS THE DAY BEFORE. GOD DAMMIT KEGAN. WHY?

>>8625637
I dunno, it never crossed my mind until during that SNS.
I'm not really worried if you don't want to bother with it.

>>8625592
>25 Frags of /vr/
Hard Fast Fraggots

>>8625641
It's not that I'm not going to do it, it's just... come on, man.
Also, I'm not sure if he wants me to put his name here, but somebody cleaned up the gross wall of else if code and converted it to a for-array loop, completely unprompted. What an absolute legend. Seriously, thanks a ton.

>>8625652
I actually had no idea you were working on a sound pack thing.

TIL you can lock yourself out of the earlier part of the map in E4M5

also how the fuck has it been 5 years and smooth doom still hasnt fixed projectile speeds and monster behaviors. cacodemon fireballs zoom across the fucking map like its nothing

>>8625654
I made three posts and two of them were last night. U dum dum.

Alright I'm done with this pseudo-namefagging

>>8624097
I was wondering why this was bothering me so much and then I realized it had two eyes.

>>8625524
welp

>>8625204
It's also one of the most entertaining shooters

>>8625714
Update your GZDoom.

>>8625720
Thanks, I'm retarded.

>>8625203
>demoscene
This is the Doom thread, not the Amiga thread.

>>8625572
Bungie.wad, entirely composed of friendly(?) insults towards Marathon, Halo, Destiny, etc.

What's the doom wad where you have a giant boner and your jack off all over the place mowing down demons with your seed. Later on you get piss too and it does even more damage.

>>8625524
Well now I do have words. This mod is a really technically impressive piece of work that plays not very well. Pretty much all you do is spam the same 2 basic attacks (is there even a difference between them?) and the one time-freeze-instakill special and everything dies. It's almost funny how inferior it is in every meaningful gameplay respect to Demonsteele, a mod that was barely finished and held together with duct tape as far as I could tell. It's also funny how this is almost exactly the same mod as the author's other two mods, just with MOAR GRAFIX.
I dunno maybe I just don't get it.

>>8625796
sounds like the night i became a registered sex offender

>>8625796
not into watersports but that does sound interesting

>>8624543
The worst thing that you cant change in ZDoom is how Cacos are blasted back halfway across the map by rockets, way farther than vanilla. Sounds like it would be good, but then you cant aim at them easily since theyre too far away, or autoaim chooses another closer monster, or what have you, and they come back to bite your ass.

>>8624862
>the shitty platforming sections (where you have to jump at the right moment, glide at the right moment but also have the proper angle otherwise you're going to fall in the lava/ acid and insta-die and have to replay the entire level, fuck you).
Thats what makes them a puzzle. Much more interesting than platforming that doesnt actually require any skill or thought.

>>8625041
I get that your last statement is sarcastic, but I genuinely cant even tell which side you're on.

it's so weird how the input in raze feels more robust than the original. i can't really explain it. whoever wrote gzdoom's input code did a great job.

>>8626017
Even funnier this repost.

>>8626002
10000/100 = 100
tens of thousands of FPS / 100 = hundreds of FPS

>>8626017
Finally someone posted the correct version. Too bad only 5 people are gonna get it

https://vocaroo.com/1csFVvjILJdv

Now this is a voodoo doll, Bloodfags

Can a Lost Soul damage a Pain Elemental?

I would sooner have every fiend in quake replaced with spawns

never realized just how annoying these cunts could be

>>8626082
I'm looking for that right now but can't find. Show location on map please?

>>8626431
Near the cages with enemies before teleporting to the IoS area.
You will see three rectangular rooms with idclip.
The smallest one has the voodoo doll.
Use idbeholdl to turn on the lighthing.

>>8626457
Champion. Thank you!

>>8625041
On modern machines, you are supposed to use Vulkan renderer on gzdoom. On my machine it runs identically compared to prboom/dsda. Maybe even better on bigger maps on hardware mode. And it also runs miles better and faster than Eternity.

>>8626182
I think so as both can aggro each other.

How do you get ideas for new maps? Or, if you don't work with ideas, what do you do to get started?

>>8625041
>multiplayer is shit on a stick
Better than vanilla.
And performance isn't even that bad, especially with the last updates.

You're a dumb fag.

>>8626568
>8 players

>>8626523
Play maps that are similar to what I intend to make, look what works and try to imitate it. You can try making maps based on some kind of a challenge like a map where you only get a chaingun, or a map that has to have 1000 monsters.

>>8626523
Play new wads before bed, have dreams of new maps, and record/write down the dream immediately once you wake up.

>getting to that one part of Warrens with a bro in HDest
Fuck, this feels impossible. Have a rocket launcher w/o HEAT and a BFG, but a cybie is a cybie.

>>8625994
Nah, thank you, I prefer Hexen.
If the enemies didn't respawn regardless and if the lava/ acid wasn't instakill it would've been better.
The former makes me skip battles I can avoid, because it's meaningless, the latter just makes me replay the same few sections until I quit the game for a few days and finish it afterwards.
I got past the stage where you get the flamethrower and now I'm in the one where the Bastet cat-ladies show up for the first time and they put another infuriating one right at the exit.

>>8626523
Map as you always do, but now adapt it for HDest

>>8626746
It might take some time, but listen and wait for it to wander to the far side of the room before you hit the trigger. Then you can sneak around the pillars and either get a HEAT out of the pile of rocket boxes, get the summoning talisman (provided RNG gave you one) and use it to stunlock the cybie, or go for the invuln in the back of the room. The harder part is the jackboot onslaught at the end. Save the second invuln for that.

Played Duke 3D and loved it, having difficulty getting into Shadow Warrior
Couldn't care less about Lo Wang's dialogue (I love the "kung foo fighting you chicken shit" line), but I can't get into the gameplay groove. Are there any tips for getting into it, or should I just move on to Blood. Playing on RAZE

Currently making a retro FPS mod, full campaign (won't get into specifics), and I'm planning on releasing some merch just to help support my mod work.

Tell me, do you think $25 for a PC big-box style display box (with manual, mini-poster, pin button, jewel case, and blank custom CD included) is reasonable? The mod has enough attention on it that I think merch would sell, I just wanna make sure the prices are fair

How do I use skins with GZDoom? Autoloading the pk3s does jack.

>>8626906
Are you trying to load Zandronum skins? Those can be set up differently in a way GZDoom won't recognize them.
https://zdoom.org/wiki/S_SKIN
https://zdoom.org/wiki/SKININFO

>>8624743
Lilith 2 by /vr/

>>8625592
>valentines co-op mapping project
Like making maps balanced around coop or pairing up authors? I'm on board with the latter

>>8626860
>Tell me, do you think $25 for a PC big-box style display box (with manual, mini-poster, pin button, jewel case, and blank custom CD included) is reasonable? The mod has enough attention on it that I think merch would sell, I just wanna make sure the prices are fair
Do you already have a business plan? What would your margin be at 25 bucks and how much do you want to gain from it? Or do you not care, as long as you're not in the reds?

>>8626946
IIRC the idea was pairing up authors, part of the issue was actually establishing a communication channel between them.

>Duamutef jar section entrance in Pyramid of Anubis (door with scarab panels and a pharaoh)
I dungetit. Is it simply guessing the correct combination (center, left, right) or there was a wall for it somewhere? Egypt's a pretty big step up in puzzle aspect compared to previous two.

>>8626948

Margins are fairly decent. I don't have the exact numbers on hand, but last I did the math, a limited run of about 300 would leave me with a profit of $10-$15, and I'd also be cutting an artist a 20% chunk for doing some box art.

If I'm converting MP3s into OGGs, does the quality I set matter? "Lowest" just gives me the impression the quality will go down.

>>8624125
is he breaking the sound barrier?

>>8627038
He's breaking wind.

>>8624743
this should be in a wad where the normal pinky just randomly glitches once in the entire game and gaslight the player

>>8624753
>playing without love
happy valentine's day

>>8626037
>osteoporosis
lordosis?

I need one brave anon to playtest a slaughtermap influenced by early Sunder levels. BOOM, MAP09, use saves.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ft2RjZgzKd4VyAR8-7N6xKx349bXWXWg/view?usp=sharing

>>8624098
La tailor girl updated to 1.8
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1213023#p1213023

>>8626918
I don't know what any of this means...

>>8627197
Your skin (pack) might not be compatible with GZDoom, it might be designed specifically for Zandronum (a different source port).
Try this skin pack, it should work in GZDoom, if it doesn't work, you're doing something wrong.
https://doomshack.org/wads/150skins.zip

https://fxtwitter.com/ShitpostGate/status/1492966398385131520?s=20&t=mQsewKS5MCF996hCAWTIFw

>>8627216
Oh hey, that works. Actually, can I make it work with HDest or is that a different can of worms? Just loading it at the end doesn't make any new skins appear in the options.

>>8627248
HDest has its own skin system, and doesn't use the skin selector in the options menu at all.

You know how the Gremlin in Quake Scourge of Armagon has the unique ability to copy a weapon from the player?
Is there a Doom mod that tries to do that for an enemy, whose ability is to copy or even literally steal a gun the player is wielding?

>>8626573
>4

>>8626860
How do you plan on printing the boxes?

>>8627310
It doesn't just copy the weapon, it steals it from your inventory.

>>8624450
based build engine historian

>>8624743
Try some splatterhouse enemy sprites too

>>8624753
>free bronto
bronto is an innocent bron

why the fuck do people pretend that UT was as popular as q3? even on GOG it says UT was 'the original king of the hill in online fragging' THIS IS A FUCKING LIE

>>8627394
(you)

>>8624743
>if schizoposts were Doom monsters

>>8624098
>[02-07] DBP43: Japanese Valentines is out now
>https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2432/japanese-valentines
is this hentai doom but continued and completed?

>>8626037
Nice to see that gif is still in use. This turns Quake into Descent.

>>8624125
>>8624174

>>8627065
I didn't find any of the secrets so I can't tell if they work or not.
I think my only real issue with the level is that areas that are gated with a timer can have a few areas changed out with switch presses. I typically don't leave arenas until I kill everything but it does wear at me when I can leave just by stalling time.
Other than that I would like to see more indoor areas to help break up the red skybox every here and there.

Im trying to host a doom server, it can be joined from another pc but its not showing up in doomseeker, what do?

>(´・ω・)つ(・(・ 極上の乳

Done with Powerslave Exhumed. Got the 31 developer dolls, can't be bothered to finish the game on Pharaoh difficulty.

I never paid much attention to Powerslave before this remaster but I'm disappointed that an fps about machinegunning mummies in Egypt or something like that, named after an Iron Maiden album, has a distinct lack of metal in the soundtrack.

>>8627484
It's a reference to the same (Egyptian) themed album, but it was impossible to go any further in that direction. Lobotomy Software almost had a lawsuit upon them for that.

>>8627484
Nah fuck that. The soundtrack is great at establishing the atmosphere.

>>8627484
I suppose you don't recall the Ion Maiden lawsuit.

>>8627447
How do I get the fourth transmitter part? The platform moving up and down is too far away for me to float to. I'm guessing I'll need to go back there with a new ability at some point to grab it?

>>8626810
Personally I'm not a fan of Shadow Warrior much either, it's my least favorite of the big 3 Build games.

>>8627538
Both the transmitter pieces and dolls are easy to get after you have all the artifacts.

>>8627551
I have more overall time on DN3D, but SW is the one I built the most maps for.

>>8627065
I was gonna try it, but you left a whole wad in there, so I'm playing that first.

>>8627509
>that “oooo!” during the song for the initial level
I honestly couldn’t believe these songs were part of the original release when I first heard them, I was that impressed.

>>8627447
good job kura-kun

>>8627497
If anything all i want is Iron Maiden kinda making a free ad of this game by making voiceless soundtrack of the powerslave album for the game.
also a expansion where you receive help from ed hunter referencing the old FPS light gun game

>>8627620
1996 wasn't the fucking stone age

>>8627447
What's actually different in Pharaoh difficulty compared to the others? This was my first time playing the game, and I decided to just go all-in.

We need a UV Solo Net category

>>8627656
>making a free ad of this game by making voiceless soundtrack
Whiny bitches filed a $2M lawsuit in 2019 over Ion Maiden which had to be re-branded Ion Fury. What makes you think this would work out?
Fuck 'em to be honest.

>>8627668
It had plenty of fuckawful tunes that aged poorly, what’s your point?

>>8627681
God bless American copyright laws

>>8627672
Enemy placement and quantity

>>8627685
But not damage?

>>8627683
No. What's yours you retarded rear gunner? Piss off.

>>8627681
Because the Console versions on its original release even after they renamed it in europe gave a lot of free ad for them, and the fact that the album and the game are egyptian themed stuff, it only gave its proper cult status.

Also ion fury sounds better than maiden, since shelly is angry all time when off her period and for knowing the shit she was before with the retarded robo arm and shit haircut.

With this talk of lawsuits by just having a similar name, how did Doom get away with outright shamelessly making a soundtrack that is just plagiarism after plagiarism?

>>8627684
Freedum ain't free:DDD data blud of da badriods:DDD Dog blez :DDDDDDD

>>8627687
I didn't notice so far

>>8627698
>ion fury sounds better than maiden
No. That's what's the title replacer mod is for.

Ion Maiden is kinda of a shitty name as well. It is as flaccid unimaginative as the characters ingame.

explain to me how such a shit company like atari got its dirty mits on blood's ip

>>8626810

Yeah smirked a lot when he tries to use a forklift and does not work and he goes" ohoh must be american made".


Yet nobody bitches about it. It´s all muh asian racism, my god the overcorrection for the last 200 years is going insane.

>>8627723
You mean Infogrames?

>>8627723
Educate yourself anon

>>8627683
why are you even here?
>>>/v/

What happens if someone telefrags you in the ending room of E1M8?
Do you die and respawn again at the start or the level ends?

>>8627672
Did you get the No-lifer achievement?

>>8627702
Bobby Prince is a lawyer, so he probably knew how to steal and not get caught

>>8627739
>why are you even here?
Retro FPS.

>>8627752
Fuck no. Those lava mantises do a health bar and a bit with one hit.

>>8627758
nah you sound like a shitter, anon

>tfw playing doom and shitposting while in company meetings
I love WFH

>>8627759
Trying to get this one and Godlike Warrior in my current run, but it's tedious.

>>8627760
>nah
Sorry but that's why I'm here. Would you like some relevant content on another game I've been replaying?

>>8627770
It was bad enough even with all of the ankhs.
Thankfully I was playing the GOG version so I'm free of worrying about achievements.

>>8624743
Hey guys, what did I mi... BWAAAAAAH!

>>8627216
Huh. Lord Blaz is in here. Does Kegan know about this? Is he fine with it?

>>8627484
>>8627497
I can't say I blame the devs. The band went after Ion Fury back when it was called Ion Maiden.

>>8627787
Oh noes what if he didn't gib permishuns!
Fags like you are why modding communities suck these days. He's in the credits. Fuck off.

>>8627796
Jesus christ dude I didn't mean anything like that. I just wasn't expecting to see the character.
I took another look and he's credited, so whatever.

>>8627796
You don't have to chimp out like a nigger, nigger

>>8627803
No, what you meant to do was try to start some drama or get someone in trouble over fucking nothing.

>>8627807
No I didn't.

>>8627709
>Freedum ain't free:DDD

There's a hefty fuggin' fee :DDDD

>>8627761
Holy shit, that's cool.

>>8627793
Iron Maiden can fuck off. Greedy cunts.

>>8627065
fun map. a bit lenient with ammo maybe. anonfiles dot com slash b7xbb2I8x4 slash 10x10-09_lmp

>>8627842
Agreed.
Not to mention that iron maidens are real things. Ion Maiden had nothing to do with the dipshit band. They pulled some "yeah well the skull kinda looks like this mummy head logo we use". It looked nothing like it.
Fuck them.

>>8627893
That and ‘Shelly Harrison’ being a play on ‘Steve Harris’.
But yes they need to chill their holes.

>>8624846
I don't think it is overrated simply because there are not a significant amount of people who think the game is good to begin with.
The console version is simply bad, a game that fails in so many aspects that it is even difficult to say that it is simply "mediocre".
It makes some recently released games that are quite "meh" look like masterpieces, like Prodeus or HROT.

>>8624846
>So everyone can finally agree Powerslave is overated?
I’d say it’s as “””overrated””” as the Turoks so not by a whole lot, all decent games.

>>8627439
Yeah, I was being lazy by just using timers but it seemed to me that in almost any area where you would try to leave early, you'd get punished for doing so with the next bunch of enemies or with platforming. I can look at where I can swap timers for switches though just to break up pacing if for no other reason. I'd agree with you about more indoor sections, though the reason this is all outdoors is to make the map stand out from a bunch of back-to-back indoors levels. I understand some people might find the sky annoying though, it's part of a limitation I'm working around. Thanks for your help!
>>8627618
Left the file a little bloated just in case there was someone like you, anon
>>8627864
I knew the cell count needed to be tightened up but your gameplay makes this very apparent. I was blasting the BFG/PR pretty passively during fights but you're more patient. I'll cut back on ~10-20% of the cells. Great job and thanks so much for the demo, it was fun to watch.

>>8627753
He himself debunked this though, he knew well they could get into trouble for that but id didn't care and they were simply lucky to avoid any lawsuits.

>>8628170
based deboonker

>>8627672
I managed Pharaoh now, but I'll skip No-lifer. It's really too tedious.

>Pharaoh
Does this mean the yellow key will not appear in this difficulty?

>>8628189
heartily chucklan

>>8628189
???

Map07 of Ad Mortem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXye49tOobY
This is the point where the wad becomes a stack of sieves with only two breather levels (maps 8 and 9). I may sound salty in this video but that's just because the map was giving me a very hard time. I actually enjoyed the level.

>>8626498
>On modern machines, you are supposed to use Vulkan renderer on gzdoom.
That depends on what hardware you have, I'm pretty sure.

>>8628189
Just hit the invisible switch bro.

>>8624846
Pretty much, I can't help but feel its nightdives fault for hyping it up past its realistic expectations.
For years ever since Powerslave EX was pulled off the internet the narrative was
>Powerslave Console = GOOD
>Powerslave Build = BAD
In reality both are just average FPS games that had the distinct benefit of being completely different from each other other than name and assets.
The $20 price tag is also kind of ridiculous

>>8628364
>>8624846
Look at these tossers

>>8627723
Companies going out of business and being acquired by larger companies in bankruptcy sales. Also, nuAtari is actually Infogrames wearing Atari's skin after buying their remains.

>>8627745
I think the level ends immediately.

>>8624846
Doom is overrated .

>>8628189
Just SR50

New Agitating Skeleton Strats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2DJHSErSdA

>>8627787
I didn't know about this but I'm not terribly worried about it. It's not like they're claiming they made it or anything like that

>>8625572
Strife themed Doom 2 WAD

>>8625524
Maybe I'm retarded, but the game doesn't seem to mention at all how to use the potions in your inventory or switch to the bigger sword. There's nothing in the control setup for that and no combo of the buttons I have mapped seems to do either of those things.

>>8625572
/vr/ enemy set based on generated spites like >>8624743, one for DeHackEd and one for ZS.

>>8627437

>try to play literally anything that's not vanilla
>won't even load due to obscure errors

am i missing something?

>>8628650
I don't know, maybe if you told us some more helpful information. What source port? What wads/mods? What errors?

Messing around with PrBoom+ for the first time. How the hell do I disable mouse movement?

>>8628668
Try looking in the options

>>8628667
zdoom, gzdoom, neither work. Doesn't matter what it is, as long it's not vanilla it doesn't work

>>8628675
Your GZDoom version is 5 years old and you're trying to load a recent mod.

>>8628682
fucks sake, why does it even matter, this game's like 28 years old.
in any case thanks for telling me the obvious. tech issues make me overlook shit like that

>>8628682
>2017 was 5 years ago

>>8628702
>fucks sake, why does it even matter, this game's like 28 years old
yes, but the mod isn't

>>8628727
Feels like longer, honestly.

>>8628748

>>8628756
>pistoru-chan can't show up to the party because she committed sudoku over chaingun-chan being better than her in every way
Great, you depressed him more.

>>8628764
Pistol's in the holster. We can't see it

>>8628756
>chainsaw shows up and not berserk
Lame.

Happy Valentine's day everyone!

>>8628901
Don't fucking remind me, cunt

>>8628901
Why are you coming onto him, SPLASHWOMAN!?

>>8625572
a clusterfuck that contains enemies from the following and actually makes effort to utilize them all to their fullest potential
>base doom 2's entire roster
>rekkr sunken land - everything but death raven, the tiny rock landmines, and mimics
>valiant - everything but the boss and ghost enemies
>evilternity - everything but the boss
>hedon - psi demons and mentalists
if that's even possible. i'm not sure if there's a way to straight up add that much shit without replacing something else.
basically the idea is to add true variety to combat while keeping it largely doom-like and predictable.

Meatball demon was a mistake

b-bros can you help me plez
>>8627445

How to emulate Blood enemies movement in Zscript?

>>8629353
t. tomato demon

>>8628349
Graf still hates AMD

>>8629409
Graf is AMD

A
Mad
Douchefucker

>>8629353
pain elementals should have a 33% chance to spit out a rocket instead of a lost soul
this includes when they die

>>8629491
Nah, that's too cruel.
Mancubus Fireball will do fine.

>>8629491
Also give them a melee attack.
And immunity to Lost Soul attacks, and Lost Souls will never target Pain Elementals.

>>8629517
the rocket is the melee attack

>>8629525
That's disgusting. I love it.

Any doom wads I can jerk off to?

>>8629605
Yeah. In this thread even, depending on your tastes.

>Why did that revenant gift me this hoodie? He knows it doesn't fit me.

>>8629615
qt

I love hell nobles

Time to Choice!: Every Demons in Doom II has a dick and you must pick one and suck it. Which one would be your choice?

>>8629650
Lost Soul since the fire would vaporize any dick cheese

Found this little gem https://github.com/Lewisk3/UltimateClassicMinimap

and managed to tweak a few things more to my liking (as I do with most mods - I do it for my own use) after diving into the code
However I would like some help here: It uses TEXTURES and pieces of Titlepic for some icons, and object sprites for other. There are some mods that alter titlepic so that screws things quite a bit. It also varies size of icons to some ridiculous unreadable degree. I want to make it display (different) abstract icons of a constant size for enemies, items and guns, instead of using full item sprites as it does now.
Also a weird bug: It originally draws a ThickLines 2 pixel wide for walls. I made it draw regular lines instead, that should always be 1 pixel wide (basically replaced all instances of ThickLine with just line that does not have thickness parameter), but for some reason if the line crosses the border circle, it is always drawn as 2 pixel wide, despite there no ThickLine left in the code. How do I fix that?

>>8629736
But I love me some dick cheese.

>>8629771
Holy shit this looks awesome. I'd love to try it out with smooth doom.

>can't change the height of the sight check in A_Chase without writing a totally custom version of A_Chase in ZScript
This is basic shit graf, why the fuck can't I do this? You fucking chicken faggot. One of these days chicken man, one of these days I'm going to bring you down to KFC and that'll be the end of you.

how do i bind 2 to just the revolver and 1 to just the jackhammer in ashes
either "revolver" and "jackhammer" aren't the actor names or they're different when upgraded
fucking hell i hate weapon cycling bullshit
also making the military rifle and slug rifle distinct would be nice

So what program do you dudes use to write MIDIs for your wads? For me its good ole fruityloops studio

>>8629970
I use MP3's of songs from videogames or movies I like that I get off of YouTube

>>8629985
Bitcrushed into unrecognisability, I hope.

I'll need to put this shit through TEXTURES and make the animation extra slick but I'm pleased with this.

>>8629993
lookin good

>>8629987
No.

>>8627761
Any WADs that use heaps of these kinda trick/gimmick rooms? It's fucking cool.

>>8630024
Disgusting. How are you supposed to make a proper wad if you haven't got FIREBLU everywhere and a barely recognisable Metallica MIDI playing?

>>8630048
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/imposs

>>8629784
Just make your own fork bro.
With proper MP support pls, and all kinds of performance improvements.

>>8628337
>I may sound salty in this video
For some reason I just had to think of that one anon who was mad as fuck the first time he played the carnival level. Did you playtest that at any point?

>>8630078
I only playtested one level - map32. Didn't want to spoil the wad for myself.

>>8629409
Who doesn't? Terrible products and drivers.

>>8629650
>Time to Choice
ESL need not apply

>>8629970
Ableton live suite

>>8626860
>Tell me, do you think $25 for a PC big-box style display box (with manual, mini-poster, pin button, jewel case, and blank custom CD included) is reasonable?
...can you even do that though? Are you sure that developers/publisher/IP owned would be okay with that? From what I understand, Sigil might as well be an exception to the rule. That probably depends more on specific case, but just correct me if I'm wrong.
The idea is great, but sadly it can be just too much to handle against corporate normies who hate fun.
>>8627310
>even literally steal a gun the player is wielding?
They actually still almost all of your weapons. Besides Axe and Shotgun, I believe.
>>8627723
>>8627727
>>8627731
>>8628381
Yeah, nu-Atari isn't "the Atari". Similarly to nu-Apogee that tries to ignore this fact and nu-Black Isle with dumb price tags for Dark Alliance on PC. Don't really know about Interplay though. Curious about it.
>>8627997
>recently released games that are quite "meh" look like masterpieces, like Prodeus or HROT.
Prodeus? Sure, but HROT is one of the best and most interesting title in this niche out there. lol
I believe there was a new update recent-ish with new soundtrack by one of musicians that made/allowed the use of their tracks in Hotline Miami. Haven't checked it out yet.

>>8624097
>Launch retro FPS vidya
>Greeted by furry art
Is this the future of /vr/?
Shitposting aside, it is a solid game that manages to exclude the inverted mlook setting on launch :|

>>8627065
Cool map, just about what I'd expect when I heard "Sunder". I like how far it allows you to backtrack.
Nothing much to report besides few of teleport lines not being one-sided.

>>8630372
>spoiler
Never understood that thing. Why would you use it? Genuine question.

>>8630372
>Is this the future of /vr/
when i grow 60 billion more braincells and figure out how to make a serious sam 4 total conversion mod, yes

also there cannot be this many people who use inverted mouselook. it's either one guy mentioning it everywhere, or it's inverted by default and there's no option to make it normal. i refuse to believe otherwise.

In HDest, how do I use Thunderbuster against barons effectively? I try to explode it under their feet at range, but it seems to randomly take from 1 to 5 blasts to kill one. Close range I'm doing the altfire, but I can't get out of the balefire's way quickly enough (this is all in an intercontinental online environment).
Also, what are some wads that are manageable on HDest for two noobs that isn't Diabolus Ex? Doom 2 on HMP will be playable I'm sure, but fuck if I can stomach another playthrough of DOOM2.WAD with any sauce anymore. So far we're at E4M1 so I gotta start looking for something fresh provided my friend doesn't burn out, if I latch onto something I ride it till I can't stand it anymore

>>8630473
Because it feels more natural, you don't bend your neck back when you want to look down.
Try it for a while and see if you can get used to it.
>>8630508
>there cannot be this many people who use inverted mouselook
While I personally do not know many people do, I assume that they are numerous enough for the option to exist.

>>8630549
Blast them repeatedly at range, you gotta remember that Barons are tough bastards with a thick shield. Cooking them with the spray like you've been doing works well too, and it's usually my method for killing Barons. You'll just need to dodge sooner or try to get some cover between you and the Baron.
Or just Bronto the fucker.

>>8630558
>Because it feels more natural
I can only believe this if it’s fully inverted. Wanting only the Y axis inverted would be as odd as only wanting the X axis inverted. Even then:
>want to look up
>move stick up
Is completely natural as well.

>>8630549
Spray in short bursts. Let up and dodge as soon as your rate of fire starts to slow. It's a good idea to switch to a bullet weapon after you break the shield, you'll do a better job of stunlocking it or just build up a ton of bleed and let it die from that.
>what are some wads that are manageable on HDest for two noobs that isn't Diabolus Ex?
Kuchitsu is a good short episode. Pretty easy, but it makes proper use of the Doom 2 roster, and it's a good training course on handling hot starts. Bring your own armor.
D2TWID, Mars War, and TVR are solid low-end megawads. Don't go to map33 or map32 in D2TWID, the former just sucks and the latter softlocks. Pack a radsuit for TVR and try not to lose it before map06.
Plutonia is a good time too. Despite its reputation, it actually comes very close to what I'd consider ideal HD encounter design. HD also uses a unique spawnfilter for it that cuts down on the chaingunner and archvile population.

>>8630508
>when i grow 60 billion more braincells and figure out how to make a serious sam 4 total conversion mod, yes
what do you have in mind anon

I managed to get the last one. I misread. It was enough to play through on normal to get the no ankh achievement.
I won't touch this again until workshop support.

>>8629289
innit the hedon psi demons just alt-skins of Doom archviles, anyway?

>>8630691
too much to explain and i never finished my stat document
core tenets are

1. game has many many enemies on screen at once.
2. enemies are all extremely deadly, reacting quickly, dealing comparatively high damage to their counterparts in similar games, and situationally switching attack patterns. the lowest tier hitscanner can ventilate you in about 2 seconds if left unchecked. a relatively common fodder enemy totes a cannon that can instagib you if you let it fire off. weak melee units can kill you in a couple of hits. in addition to upgraded firepower, heavier units are faster, smarter, and less susceptible to flinching.
you are expected to treat encounters with almost the same reverence as a multiplayer shooter, always being on your toes, always reacting asap, always hitting shots.
3. despite this, there are tons of tools at your disposal to help you feasibly survive, though none of which are an "i win" button. an example: blocking with melee makes you reactively cut down hitscan bullets, but you can only catch up to 10~ per second, or 5 at once. shotgunners and large groups of hitscanners can breach through. they may also chuck a grenade at you if you hold that stance too long or briefly leave line of sight.
4. different characters who each have different movement abilities based on the animal they are. most have access to a basic weapon roster, others have it switched out entirely for a special one.
5. different classes that offer both buffs to specific weapon types, as well as access to simple constructs. weapon buffs are minor and don't turn any one weapon into more of a workhorse than it ought to be. constructs can be stuff like impromptu walls, spike pits, or jump pads.

tl;dr serious sam on serious difficulty but genuinely masochistic and with every movement trick ever included in a video game. and also enemies that can catch up to you despite your crazy movement.

>>8630835
they ignore armor
and have a scarier/more disruptive on screen effect and sound
and make shadow clones when you shoot them
and make you beseech the assistance of a certain black cat

>>8630862
I see, cool idea. What playable characters did you have in mind?

I've been encountering a weird issue with VirtualMidiSynth where the music will kinda...stumble over itself trying to play. Like the tempo will randomly fuck up. At first I was only noticing it with OmegaGMGs2, but now it's doing it with SC-55. Anyone know why that is?

Okay, what are some good wads that won't require me to spend 500 usd on a new cpu just to play a hecking doom mod?

>>8630930
generic character 1 - squirrel with 100 health/100 armor/100% speed (like 18 mph) that can sprint forward up to 135% speed when not attacking and climb walls

generic character 2 - rabbit with 90 health/90 armor/90% speed that can bunnyhop up to 135% speed consistently, with circumstancial bursts beyond that soft-cap. can slide forward to boost, and you get knocked back when airborne and shooting your shotguns.

severely autistic donut steel 1 - 80 health 80 armor 80% speed caster with reactive armor that absorbs 100% of damage until depleted and explodes whenever hit, but can only be recharged manually instead of via drops. can fly at 160%+ speed when at least 1 weapon is on-person/inactive, but slows down or drops when attacking. way too much shit going on in the weapons kit for me to comfortably share. good at killing crowds, lacks reliable hitscan to stunlock and avoid taking damage to begin with.

severely autistic donut steel 2 - 200 health 0 armor 135% base speed grappling hook melee fist guy whose damage is based on momentum and he can grapple to his own grenades midair to fly on demand

i should note that hitscanners become much less accurate against anyone going above 200% speed

>>8631000
Have you tried reducing the resolution scale to 0.5? I get smooth performance even on my shitty old thinkpad this way and I get the Crispy Doom look which is a win/win.

>>8631078
Resolution is for gpu bound games. It wouldn't affect any of the epic maps like infraworld that I tried to play. They would dip fps no matter the resolution because it's all cpu related.

>>8631000
IHNI

>>8630963
works on my machine :^)
only problem i have with vms is it takes much longer to load the next level—on intermission screen it takes 3-5 seconds to start the level when it used to be instant

>>8627395
Too many zoomers, no gamespy 3d users

is quake live's movement the same as quake 3's movement and if so why does quake 3's movement suck so much ass compared to quake 1's movement
explain in layman's terms what exactly changed

Well
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94546-doom-1-or-2/

>>8631170
>31 years later
>still no cool gun like fists of baron
;(

Where the fug is Samson.

Hey guys does anyone know about a MGR themed mod for doom? I saw its clip here a few years ago.

>>8624743
now I want a wad with enemies that move like Space Funeral characters.

>>8631115
Well shit, I don't have that issue. Weird.

>>8631214
I, too, crave kobol shenanigans.

>>8630232
OK Graf, suuuuure.
Whatever you say...

>>8624097
>OUR WADS
>https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

>no mention of 200min wad, 2048 units wad etc.
why?
I need a list of all /vr/ map sets.

>>8631381
Much of the OP assets are painfully outdated.

So are the cougar ladies in powerslave supposed to rip your health into shreds instantaneously with no cooldown to their melee attack? I'm playing on hard at the moment.

>>8631384
>retro board for old games
>retro OP with old links
it fits

>>8631384
>>8631391
>>8631381
>pastebin entry is from April 2013
9 (NINE) fucking years and no one, literally no one, bothered to make a new one?
no compilation of "hey guys, we're /doom/ and we made these cool wads that are still played to this date"?

>>8631405
>literally no one, bothered to make a new one?
Did you?
Be the change you want to see, friend :^)

>>8629771
>https://youtu.be/SHK3Iv71jpY
That's a great add-on, i use it in my default mod loadout. It plays nicely with other mods. I love the way it shows keys on the perimeter like Quest objectives. The option menu is great too, it allows you to smoothly position it at any XY position via sliders, in realtime.
I think it only works in GZDooM versions 4.x+, as it uses ZScript? Not sure about that.

>>8624852
Can someone explain why the Super Mancubus transformed into invincible Cybrusiers during this SNS session?

>>8628675
>GZDoom 2.4
>Corruption Cards
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67939
>Requires GZDoom 4.4.0 or higher!
Reading is hard, huh?

I'm surprised no one has made a Shadow the Hedgehog mod for Doom. No SRB2's Shadow mod doesn't count.

>>8629771
works great except at low res. still neat.
would be nice if it used whatever games map colors. hexens etc

>>8631915
I started one as a teen.
It was garbage and I don't have it any more.

>>8631923
||fucking make it again and make it fun this time. Go all out on the comically bad edgy shit too. It's been too long since we had a dumb fun mod like that.||

>>8631937
>discord spoilers

If you've got nothing better to do my uncle finally dumped his megawad that he's been sitting on for years. It's nothing fancy but we enjoyed playing it.

https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/to-and-fro

>>8631938
This is the caliber of poster we get on modern 4chan. At least they don't usually live past 25.

Is there a way to fix this? The autoaim only aims up if I am close enough to a monster, but they are able to shoot down at me from any distance. I don't wanna use vertical aim cause I want that classic experience, but I don't remember it being this way back in the day.

Playing on GZdoom btwnvntt

>>8632000
Player autoaim has a distance limit of 1024 units, it's not a bug. With GZDoom however, I suppose it could be possible to mod in a better autoaim routine.

>>8631964
Wait does this mean that he took other maps and modified them? Or did he just put completely unchanged maps from other sources in this wad?

>>8632012
So the original Doom did have autoaim? And here all along I thought I was just shooting them because they are infinitely tall...

>>8632013
They've all been modified.

>>8632017
Possibly bait, but Doom has always calculated projectile collisions in three dimensions.

>>8631791
reading is hard when i'm frustrated over more tech stuff not working and only see "it doesn't work" in the moment.
yes i'm a dumbass for overlooking it.

Since no one has been able to mod in layered maps in doom (several rooms with differing height but the same horizontal space), how well can Quake handle billboard sprites of Doom? Because being able to have maps with proper height would be nice but Quake can't handle high enemy counts with the 3D models, but maybe the billboarded 2D enemies can work.
In regards to Doom, yeah you could use some clever illusions and tricks to 'fool' players with rooms that could suddenly warp to other parts of the map but that tends to be messy. Has there been a solid example of what I just said?

>>8632090
Doom Legacy and other source ports (Including GZDoom) have had 3D floors for years.

>>8632025
Why would that be bait?

>>8631964
yay I love levels where I don't have nearly enough ammo so I have to spend eternity forcing monsters to infight

>>8632101
hey are you just on the first map?
I usually play this with BD myself. Are you playing vanilla? I'm pretty sure the ammo is difficulty balanced too if you need to turn it down. Some ammo management is called for but it's not always like that!

What do you think about maps in DM that lock you in a room until other player opens the way?
Is it bad game design?

>>8632017
Projectiles and hitscans always took monster and player height into account, Doom has a mostly vertical auto-aim which directs shots up or down because you can't turn your view up or down.

>>8631214
>>8631310
Still working on Combined_Arms Gaiden. Last thing I did with the boy was webm related.
On the plus side, working with Gaiden again has gave me an idea of how to implement Samson's synthesizer gun

>>8632138
depends how easily it can be used to troll. how many players are in the match.is there a benefit to leaving the player stuck.

My suggestion for this sort of scenario would be the longer the player is locked in the room the more items/ammo/health they can collect. Ideally I would also suggest that the room unlocks on a timer regardless. this gives the non trapped players a reason to unlock the locked player and a reason for the locked player to stay locked.

>>8632123
I made it up partways through level 3 with prodigious use of quicksaving. The levels got easier but I still didn't have enough ammo. Then I saw your comment and switched to brutal doom and I'm no longer having ammo issues. As a result, the first level on BD black metal is easier than on UV doom.

More importantly, I don't hate it anymore on brutal doom, because it's no longer so slow and tedious. You should tell your uncle to specifically suggest using brutal doom in the .txt file. and also to move the note about vertical mouselook to the top of the .txt file because I didn't read everything in it before playing and most other people won't either.

>>8632152
>has gave
Has given, whatever. I've been running myself ragged as of late.

Map31 of Ad Mortem. Fuck evil marines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inSe2iF4hUs

>>8632157
Thanks for the feedback. I will pass it on.
Going to get him to update the readme with more info on the original vs modified maps so will also move around the important notes like you mention.

>>8632167
Ho boy, I never managed to beat that piece of shit even REMOTELYduring playtesting.
At least you don't suck.

>>8632176
>At least you don't suck.
You'll change your mind soon.

>>8632090
>Quake can't handle high enemy counts with the 3D models
This hasn't been an issue since the 90s, unless you REALLY want to maintain compatibility with DOS Quake.

>>8632152
What is the Synthesizer gun? Actually, both of those guns. Also I thought of something earlier. When Samson eats meat, will there still be a bone drop from it?

>play ewolf
>have fun
>pause after a while
>come back another day and boot up the same file
>cant move in the main menu at all
>have to reinstall the whole fucking thing again
>play it for a bit, put it on pause while doing other stuff
>start it up again, cursor is permanently moving down and I cant select anything in the menu again

WHY DOES IT DO THIS? I HAVENT ALTERED THE FILES AT ALL

>120 green mana for one medusa
Oh my

>>8632196
The Synthesizer gun is the pistol with the big gem there. It'll work kinda like Cave Story's Nemesis: Shoot bad guys, build up meter. As the meter gets higher the range gets shittier. Then you cash the meter in for powerups and stuff.

The other gun is a rapid fire dart pistol, which you'll also be able to load crystal bolts and use whatever current potion subweapon you have as a long range attack with different effects. Samson's gonna be fun.

>>8632198
play the ZDoom TC

>>8632196
>>8632241
Oh and you better believe I'm gonna look into making it so Samson eats the whole fucking meat, bone and all. He's a fuckin animal.

>>8632243
keeps saying OPENGL driver not found

>>8632241
Sounds pretty neat. And the whipshot?

>>8632247
Ahah. I was hoping you'd say that. Custom pickup message, too?

>>8632247
Burping up the bone 2-4 seconds later would be funny, too.

>>8632269
The whipshot's gonna have two modes if I pull it off right: Default mode will shoot a short range projectile with a chain that does okay-ish damage, but if I do it right I'll have it so you can shoot it faster at close range so there'll be incentive to get in close and just rapidly thump targets.

Then the alt mode will extend chain out and Samson will swing out and launch out essentially a railgun attack where the tip does the most damage with a little explosive whip crack. I might play around with other effects depending on the spell cube item you got, we'll see.

>>8632273
Noted, maybe can do both at random.

>>8624097
Doom 3's pitch black darkness is made the way it is due to a lighting bug.

In today's HDest 2 man adventures:
>e4m1 succesfully bypassed with a lucky HEAT find
>e4m2 a fucking STRUGGLE until finally bypassed with a lucky HEAT find
>e4m8 in progress
>discovering the joy of Thunderbuster after neglecting it for months with abundant batteries
>thinking of letting my friend use it instead, must be boring only using ZM66 and getting rescued by me all the time, doesn't enjoy HDest shotty
Stay tuned for more blogposts

>>8632532
>doesn't enjoy HDest shotty
Teach him to use it, include slamfire and strongarm reloads into the lesson.
Alternatively, play with doom_complete.pk3 made with Wadsmoosh so you can use the (arguably) superior Slayer double barrel.

>>8632543
What is slamfire and what are strongarm reloads...?
For some reason we do get Slayers in regular Doom 1 too, but I personally prefer the regular chik-chik action.

>>8632548
>Slamfire
Pump action mode
Hold fire button
Pump repeatedly

>Strongarm Reload
Hold pump
Tap reload to load the chamber
Combo with Slamfire to use your storage loops as an extended mag.

>>8632551
Thanks, I'll try these! I bet Slayer doesn't get any cool tricks like this.

>>8632558
Nah, but the Slayer is lighter, can shoot 2 shells at the same time, and tight choke is much more common on them.

>>8632000
Now wait till you have to shoot something thats right below you but can't, cause of no vertical aim.

>>8632597
Time to break out the infinitely-tall column of splash damage.

>each character has specific value for each armor piece
>you also barely get any armor compared to health vials\potions
Also, War is actually hard, compared to previous bunch. Homing projectiles with decent damage (several of them on the screen at the same time) with no other attacks for a breather. Had to use 2 invulns (also realised that inventory items are much better on the mousewheel than weapons).
Necromancer's pretty fun, I like the spellbook and scythe melee is pretty rewarding after vampirism perk.

>>8630372
Need to draw them doing things to a pigcop/enforcer.

Fucked up a save of mine because Eternity has the fucking ghost bug and I was in a room with an Archvile and two smooshed hitscanners. Didn't even know this could happen in BOOM. Putting this joke source port away forever

>>8632691
Is there no RL in your inventory or the map? Zombies are some of the easiest ghost enemies to deal with.

>>8632691
IDDQD

>>8631984
It's a shame you did and turned out to disappoint many since then.

>>8632709
Is that seriously the best comeback you have? Did your social skills get reassigned too, or was that just your cock and balls?

Anyone wanna stroke it and play some co-op on classic doom 2?

>>8632000
This is why Marathonchads always win

>>8632756
to watch you die over the extra cyberdemons?

>>8632756
Are we gonna play or what?

>>8632090
Just do it in Aleph One and write a Doom physics model.

Since anon didn't put up a server I did one myself. Name is VRTroopers @ 51.161.34.159:10666, Zandronum. Let's play Samsara.

>>8632369
ok

>>8632827
>Samsara
Give it a few days and you'll get a better version of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzhXXf14jsE

>>8632803
My name is "imhavingastroke" on steam

>sh: 1: gdb: not found
Sorry boys.

>>8632827
>>8632872
RIP, just realized I had Firestorm, too.