/vr/ - Retro Games

A decent list of the main ones:
Powkiddy q/v90 (cheapest, up to 16bit)
FunkyS (Tiniest, a keychain gimmick)
Retroid Pocket 2+ (Best Bang for buck, up to Gamecube)
RG351MP (Most well known, up to N64)
AYN Odin (Kickstarter, just shipped, primarily meant for game streaming, but runs up to PS2 great)
RG552 (Overpriced, but can dual boot android and linux)
-------------------- More expensive shit
Steam Deck (Shipping out soon, can boot into other OS)
AYANEO handhelds (expensive, but can run WiiU and Switch with higher end models)

>>8614545
What about analogue pocket?

>>8614553
lol

>>8614553
:-)

why would anybody buy a "dedicated retro handheld" in this day and age when you can just either hack a switch or buy a handheld pc (anyone of them, really) to play both old games AND the latest ones as well?.....

>>8614647
>latest games
>on switch

>>8614652
they just announced a bunch yesterday actually

>>8614643
I wouldn't want it play actual cartridges. I would want it for fpga emulation and the good quality screen.

>>8614664
nintendo games and cheap games that can only run on outdated hardware, also hacking a switch is easy? kek

>>8614643
>analogue
>anal log
>shit
it was obvious, really.

>>8614674
>games don't count when they come out on a platform i dislike
also, hacking the launch model is piss easy, there's like dozens of millions of them

>>8614670
Just keep waiting for that jailbreak. :)

>>8614681
funny tho because when you brought that the switch play latest games you only think about nintendo games yourself, and what about everything else?

>>8614681
>hacking the launch model
eveybody has a launch model fo sure

>>8614684
I will? I don't have one now. I might buy one after it can load roms though.

>>8614686
i stream pc games to it with skynx streamer and i'm planning to buy a deck as well.
i enjoyed dread, legends of arceus, emulating ps1 and gba games on it, and i'm looking forward to botw 2 and the advance wars remake among others
why does that bother you

>>8614697
You don't get it. It's popular, so we are not allowed to like it.

>>8614707
you need a pc to do that, and you can stream it with whatever device nowadays even the vita.
not that it bothers me, just that switch as a retro device? if you already have the launch model why not, otherwise hell no, whatever 100$ chink handheld do /vr/ job just fine.

>>8614724
but a retro 100$ chink thing cannot run botw2, that was my point. running old AND new games > only running old games
anyway it will all soon become moot when the deck comes out as long as yuzu runs decently enough on it

>>8614734
>deck comes out as long as yuzu runs decently enough on it
high doubts, but if they manage to do it what a game changer.

>>8614697
>I will? I don't have one now. I might buy one after it can load roms though.
I suppose I was being a bit cryptic in saying that. Back in the week/days before the Analogue Pocket launch the board was full of what were most likely shill threads for the device, and nothing but promises of day 0 and day one jailbreak solutions. If anyone disagreed or even said they were unsure that it would happen that fast it would turn into insult flinging. As such it's pretty funny to me that there is not an official method of playing pirated games on the pocket. That said, if you buy one hopefully you get it for a reasonable price and not scalped to high heavens, and you enjoy it.

>>8614741
the aya neo can run yuzu and according to the first benchmarks the deck absolutely wipes the floor with it

>>8614752
https://youtu.be/HjZ4POvk14c?t=433
i admit i thought it was the opposite, looks promising, now i wish for a 5'' inches model.

>>8614749
It is strange. Every other analog device has had a jailbreak within about a week of release.

Just got an RG351P. Honestly it's pretty nice and I think worth the 78€ I paid for it. However I noticed that the R2/L2 buttons are not amazing (R1/L1 are the same but they work well pressing them from the side. The sticks work nicely, but they don't seem smooth. Like they're slightly crunchy somehow. It's really weird. The d-pad works really well with diagonals, but it also feels raised a bit too much and I can press it whole. It works actually well though, hardly have issues with it. Other thing that bothers me is that I notice some backlight bleeding in the left side of the screen. Other than that it's really good, for GBA specially. And it detects my wifi 5ghz dongle through OTG, that's some shit.

I'm having doubts though about the firmware I should put on this though. ArkOS is no longer supported on the RG351P and it seems 351Elec is not everyone's favorite in terms of performance. Any other versions?

>>8614710
>>8614697
It’s also a really bad deal if you’re not buying it to play physical carts.

>>8614786
A bad deal compared to what? Are there any other fpga handhelds?

>>8614790
FPGA is a silly buzzword that's used to disguise basic bitch emulation. It's like 3D TV or Blast Processing and will have the same overall impact.

>>8614860
I don't agree. Having zero input lag and perfect emulation is a good thing.

>>8614697
>>8614749
>>8614773
Other Analogue devices didn't have $30 adapters for other consoles. If they release a jailbreak, they risk their own sales, and they're not going to do that.

>>8614892
Those things would only be sold to people who already have large collections. Someone just interested in a handheld to play roms was never going to go and buy loads of atarri lynx and game gear cartridges.

>>8614897
>Those things would only be sold to people who already have large collections.
Yeah, just like the Pocket itself.
If they release a jailbreak, they kill off their own adapter sales. Plus they open themselves up to criticism from a market they can't compete in. $300 for a device that plays GBA and Game Gear? They'd get reamed.
Analogue requires exclusivity to be relevant, and they're not going to throw that away.

>>8614920
>$300 for a device that plays GBA and Game Gear? They'd get reamed.

The appeal is the FPGA. That's the exclusivity.It's either appealing to you or it isn't. The only people that will buy the adapters, will buy them whether or not there is a jailbreak.

>>8614535
Name a better emulation device for under 300

>>8614932
Nah. If the adapter sales weren't important, they'd have included them with the base unit. For $300 they absolutely could have and any anyone who argues against that is either a shill or delusional.
Analogue has a market, and they are incompatible with people looking for a handheld emulator.

>>8614545
This is a good chart

>>8614960
You don't understand the business model. The adapters are for whales. It's like in a game with microtransactions, 90% of the money comes from 10% of the players (whales.) The adapters are for people with more money than sense, they are a way of ringing extra money from the extreme enthusiast market.

>>8614961
It is ridiculous you can get a steam deck for 399. It's more than twice as powerful as things that are twice the price.

>>8614967
Games with microtransactions don't make it easy to bypass them, if they let it happen at all.

>>8614684
thanks i will :)
until then ill enjoy the carts i have with it :)

>>8614969
Valve can afford to sell these things at a loss

>>8614974
In games with microtransactions the vast majority of players spend no money on them, or very little. It's not aimed at most players, it is aimed at the tiny minority who will spend 3 grand a month.

>>8614979
And? That doesn't change what I said at all.
If you can avoid the microtransaction, you're going to be investing a ton of time and resources into doing so. That's the draw in the first place.
A jailbreak doesn't have that caveat, and actively harms their own sales on top of that. Lack of a jailbreak isn't costing them sales, because no one is paying $300 to play ROMs. They have absolutely no reason to release a jailbreak and every reason not to.

>>8614969
Valve sell them at a loss because in order to really get a proper experience you are stuck using Steam on them. Yes I know, I know Linux support etc, but having see how people behave online you'll have idiots buying the Deck and then paying thrice over for game rentals on steam, all while bragging about how much better the experience is when compared to consoles. Hell, prior to the Steam Deck announcement the average modern PC gamer would have laughed at the idea of playing games on a portable, non-phone device. It's the same as how they talk shit about console exclusives, but when said exclusives are ported to PC suddenly the games are good.

>>8614994
The lack of jailbreak is definitely costing them sales. Most people who will buy one do not have every game they want for it physically. Lots of people are attracted to FPGA, but don't own their own retro game museum.

The people who buy all the adapters are the whales. They will buy the adapters and any other accessory, regardless of the jailbreak.

I ordered a RP2+ more than one month ago and it didn't even ship yet fucking chinks

>>8614790
Having good emulation isn’t unique to the pocket, seriously almost anything can emulate gameboy games well. Also, the device itself is just lackluster from a control standpoint. The vertical form factor and mushy buttons aren’t fun to use for any length of time. The only thing it has going for it if you don’t want to use your carts is a really nice screen. A modded gba with a flash cart is cheaper and better.

>>8615042
Most gameboy emulation is good, but still has input lag. A modded gba is about as good for gba and gbc, but lacks support for other handheld consoles.

>>8615021
Most people CAN'T buy one.
They didn't make enough to keep consistent stock, which is one reason they could charge $300 for it. The lack of jailbreak certainly isn't costing them sales.

>>8615059
True, but that's a separate issue. If there were no supply issues a jailbroken device would have a wider appeal than one without.

>>8615054
I just don’t see the value if you’re not using carts. It has nothing going for it other than a screen that’s really only optimal for gameboy games due to its aspect ratio. If you can get one at close to msrp, it’s more palatable. But it’s definitely not worth the scalped prices.

>>8615065
>supply issues
There's no issue, it's entirely by design. Artificial scarcity is a trend with these kinds of things, ever since the NES Classic showed how well it works.

>>8615071
Maybe, but there has been a global chip shortage.

>>8615068
I like old handheld games and I want a way to play them on a handheld. If there was an open source Mister handheld I would get that. Until then this is the only option for an fpga handheld, and it could be many years before there is an alternative.

>>8615028
They're on some sort of Chinese holiday.

>>8615090
They better get back in this sweat shop and make my shit.

>>8615071
there is a chip shortage though. we couldn't even get enough fucking iPhones out to people who wanted them during the holidays at my job which has never happened in the 5 years I've been there. i get artificial scarcity but that doesn't mean they weren't hit with chip shortage issues too

>>8615090
sounds like a cum town bit

How do these fucks expect to make money if they bullshitting for 2 weeks. Get China back to work.

What are people's thoughts on the miyoo mini. Also if anyone has one and some free time, mind checking out if some games run on it for me? I ordered one but it won't be here for like a month and a half sadly.

>>8615090
CHinese new year

New to the scene with some interest. I didn't know handheld emulators were this well made even if they are chinese made.

I really love how the mint green RG351MP looks but Retroid Pocket 2+ seems like a no brainer. Anyone here have experience with either?

>>8615714
I've got the RP2+ and it's great at what it does. It's nice to have enough power to run basically whatever emulator you want with whatever shader and run ahead and it just works™, at least up to 16 bit stuff. N64 is good, again it mostly just works on default settings but even stuff like Perfect Dark time great (as great as it ever did, anyway) if you tweak it. PS1 and Dreamcast work great too. Do not expect any GameCube or PS2 to run.
The screen is nice, not the brightest but very nice colours, speakers are good too but weirdly a lot quieter than the original, not a problem for me personally though as it's loud enough. The buttons are excellent, especially the d-pad. I don't have a problem with its position but YMMV. The right slider stick is fine for me, but again YMMV.
The interface is very meh. It's nice they actually included one this time but it's so bare bones I don't use it. It's missing too many systems. I don't even use the default launcher, and run games through launchbox (which has its own problems). It is nice that it autoconfigures everything though, so it's very pick up and play if you use the default launcher. Apparently an update is coming that adds more systems, but I'll believe it when I see it.
The touch screen is weird, it's quite unresponsive at the bottom and sometimes just fails to register. The QA is nonexistent, my unit came with terrible backlight bleed, like most people I had to take it apart to loosen the screws. The buttons can also stick, but a little PTFE spray fixes that.
I'm very happy with it, *for the price*. It's a bit weird and idiosyncratic but it's comfortable to hold, plays the games well and has a nice screen. I've used it a lot since I got it and really enjoyed it. But I'd only recommend it with the following caveats - it does take some tinkering to get the best out of it, the dpad placement and the slider might be an issue and QA is terrible at best.

>>8614647
not all switches are easily hackable and the cheapest "handheld PC" is Steam Deck which isn't out and is ginormous

I just wish building a handheld was as simple as building a PC.
The Retroid Pocket 2+ is very close to what I want out of a handheld but a slightly bigger, much nicer quality screen as well as throwing in a better CPU would have made it perfect.
Screen in the RP2+ is washed out to all fuck and its colors are pretty dull.

>>8614958
The problem with the Odin is that you're not going to get one for months and when you do good luck getting any support if your unit has issues, what you legally got was a reward for donating money to their campaign and you fucking know the Chinese don't care about their company's public image.

I just found out a weird thing about these 3:2 screens that just have console games look weird and handheld games look really good: if you use RetroArch, use the quilez shader in the interpolation folder inside shaders. It makes the image look less distorted than normal, not too blurry like bilinear and not like everything has strong outlines like RGA scaling. And it doesn't seem to have an impact on performance either.

>>8617516
If you want something even sharper and more lightweight, try sharp-bilinear-simple.

>>8614535
N2dsxl + vita masterrace. Bought them both when they were cheap years ago. Better than any chinkshit

>>8617679
Does 2DS have a good responsive touchscreen?

>>8617679
The d-pad and buttons on the 2DS XL are putrid garbage. At least my chink shit doesn't hurt my fucking hands.

Does Anbernic have the best built quality from all these devices?

Is there any good reason to look for a better handheld emulator if I already own pic related?

>>8617710
No, you’re set for life, anon. Leave this thread now and enjoy an eternity of gaming perfection.

Can anyone recommend me a good handheld emulator that has Wi-Fi and uses either Android or Linux OS? I already manage my ROMs and save files across my PC, Raspberry Pi and phone so a handheld to go into that environment would be nice.
I'm already eyeing a Retroid Pocket 2 because it uses Android but I REALLY hate that the D-Pad is in the bottom and apparently the UI is terrible.

>>8617689
I wouldn't say they have amazing build quality but it's fine I guess.

I got my RG351P yesterday and honestly it does feel cheap here and there, but it's the first thing I opened that hasn't broken. I opened it to fix backlight bleeding and make the d-pad a little better, but didn't have much luck with the first problem (the second one though I have to say, genius shit, now I can get diagonals without effort and without pressing them accidentally). The microSD slot on these is a fucking bastard, putting the microSD in and taking it out requires a long fingernail. I'm not confident about this shit dropping and not getting badly damaged though.

>>8617710
That looks uncomfortable

>>8617718
My bf just got the rg351m and it runs everything well, haven't tried playing any fighters on it yet to test the dpad

>>8617710
I bought a handheld precisely after trying something similar to your setup. No, in your case it's worse because you have no handles, more top weight and you can't even connect it wired. Playing with this is annoying as shit because of how much top weight there is (on the average smartphone, besides if you want a smartphone that's powerful enough for more modern systems it's going to weigh more than the average handheld alone) and the setup is just generally annoying with how android handles storage these days.

>>8617681
It’s about as good as a ds lite
>>8617683
I have a grip so the placement of the dpad and buttons are comfortable. I also like the mushiness

>>8617718
Some handhelds that don't have wifi just accept a dongle if you need it. I have a RG351P with a tp-link AC600 and I get 5ghz wifi on it with an USB-C OTG adaptor. Can even solder that internally but I want to use the dongle for some other stuff.

>>8617760
What can you do with WiFi using Anbernic consoles? From the little I've searched it doesn't use Linux.

>>8617791
They do use linux, you can use different systems like Batocera, ArkOS (ubuntu based IIRC) or 351ELEC, based on EmuELEC. You can use wi-fi for updating shit, opening an FTP server, streaming games from Steam, scraping artwork for your ROMs and downloading ports and themes. I'm not sure if there are other uses. I believe someone tried Debian on it. It has an OTG port so you could technically just connect a keyboard and fuck around.

>>8617801
Welp, that seems neat. I'll try to look more into it, if I can run something like Syncthing to sync files on the background then I'm sold, although having to use a dongle like you mentioned is kind of off-putting.

>>8617815
I'm not sure how running any software for ARM linux would work in any case, but you can do a bunch of stuff there. It's not too locked down and I assume that just like there are these different systems put together for the device you could just build your own.

>>8617710
At least use a controller like this

>>8614535
Nice someone made an actual general this time
So supposedly Retroid is going to ship out their backlog of orders from before ChingChong New Year. Been a month since my order and no notification of shipping yet.
In the meantime I’ve been having a lot of fun with the 351P running 351elec. PS1 can be a little shitty because of the screen and N64 is generally unplayable, but it’s pretty sick for GBA, GBC, SNES, genesis, etc.

>>8614535
Anyone get their Odin yet? I’ve contemplated getting one, but at the same time it seems kind of silly to spend ~300 on it when I could just get a steamdeck for a few hundred more. I’ll probably just wait it out

>>8617718
The original RP2 doesn't have an interface, it's stuck Android and a couple of extra power management features. No touchscreen either. The + has a touchscreen and a bare bones launcher missing a load of systems, but you can always put your own frontend on. Launchbox has a rather nice export feature if you use that in pc that makes the import process quite simple.
The dpad at the bottom is going to be personal preference, of course. Mine has a very nice dpad, for what it's worth.

>>8617940
Steamdeck is also bigger and heavier so it's kind of an overkill unless you plan toplay actual PC games on it

>>8614545
where the fuck is miyoo mini u bitch

just a reminder to anyone who wants the miyoo mini, it has no rtc, so pokemon games and other games that make use of it will have some features locked. frustrating.

>>8617893
>asymmetrical layout
Looks decent but that's honestly a deal breaker.

>>8617957
It wouldn’t hurt to have the option. Portability doesn’t matter much to me, I never play games outside the house anyway

>>8618042
Yeah it's not ideal but I got used to it
I mostly play DS and PSP on it

>>8618085
What do you use to play DS? I'm using MelonDS but it lags a lot in some scenes. Maybe my phone is just shit.

>>8618136
DraStic like everyone else, runs smoothly

>>8618137
Thanks, I think I already have an APK somewhere, but I never gave it a chance because I heard it has been deprecated.

>>8618143
I mean, the only thing it needs an update for is scoped storage. It works just fine otherwise.

>>8618154
Just tested it and it's such an incredible difference. Thank you so much, my dude.

>>8618164
Oh don't thank me, I'm a different poster

>>8618171
Thank YOU, anon.

>>8618174
ok fuck, shit god damn

Which one of these chink devices has the best screen? Been eyeing the 351v or the 351mp

>>8617710
get a better controller

>>8618256
The miyoo mini is weak but has a surprisingly decent screen. Otherwise the MP is fine. The powkiddy RGB10 Max 2 has a widescreen, but a higher resolution than these two (854x480) and I heard it's really good. That's sort of the best console with the same chipset as the RG351s you can buy at the moment, but also pricier, to the point you might want something else. You basically pay for ergonomics and the screen.

Can't decide between getting an Odin or a modchip for my OLED Switch
>Advantages for OLED
Much nicer screen
Access to Switch library on top of emulation
Emulates most of what I want just fine
Setup will be available much sooner than it'll take for an Odin unit to arrive
Easy access to parts if something fails
>Advantages for Odin
Pretty much the exact size and form factor I'm after in a handheld
Can emulate the GCN Animal Crossing which is something I would have wanted to play on Switch but I can live without
General emulation seems much better than on the Switch
Can any anons chime in with opinions?
Looking at Indiegogo prices, Odin + shipping here is 450 AUD. Modchip plus shipping is 250 AUD and I can't imagine someone charging more than 200 for installation so at worst prices will be similar.

>>8614647
>Hack a handheld with 2014 hardware
lol

>>8618489
Depends on what systems you want to emulate, but I'd go with the Odin if you're mostly interested in emulation. Most of the N64 and Dreamcast stuff I tried didn't run well on the Switch, even with an overclock.

>>8618489
odin.

>>8618489
Switch can't emulate shit.

>"Dude the Odin delivered!"
>Dock has design defect preventing it from offering airflow
>People already have dead pixels and broken buttons a god damn week into owning one
>Ayn doesn't give a fuck and they're legally not obligated too, not replying to anyone's emails
Can't say I'm surprised.

>>8619045
Not that I don't believe you, but can you post some sources/proof?

>>8619107
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/odin-the-ultimate-gaming-handheld/x/28439971#/discussion
Discussions are full of people complaining, Taki's discord is also discussing their airflow and button issues.

>>8619045
This is the reason I’m always skeptical of early reviews. You can’t really know how good one of these devices is from using it for a day or two. These Chinese companies generally have shite QC & support so you can only judge the device after using it for an extended period of time.

>>8619126
Just pick one and convince yourself "better the devil you know". That's what I do.

>>8618985
Switch isn't that bad.
Problem with N64 is Switch doesn't have Parralel outside of Lakka and Mupen runs like shit. Though you can spoof an online membership for Nintendo's NSO app and pretty much everything that isn't OoT is fine.
For someone who doesn't really care about PSP or Gamecube, the Switch runs the majority of what I want to play well enough and has the bonus of current first party Nintendo games.

>>8619045
Never ever trust ecelebs on this sort of shit

>>8614535
Recently got a RG351MP, it’s nice but I haven’t had time to put some custom firmware in it yet. Which one is the recommended one? I’m going to play mostly Arcade, PCE and PS1 shit, maybe some SNES or GBA

>>8619907
I use ArkOS on my RG351P and I'm pleased with it (granted I'm using a fork because it doesn't get updates anymore on that, but yours still gets updates). I heard that 351ELEC is more polished out of the box but also less "performant".

In any case don't use stock firmware, it's absolute garbage. The microSD card these include is also garbage.

>Chinkshit is prone to breakage with 0 support
>Latest Nintendo handheld can't be modded without a chip or having an early unit
>Emulation isn't as amazing as it could be on it anyway
>Steamdeck is too fucking big to be a nice handheld to have on hand
>Phones with controllers are just complete ass
We're in the worst timeline.

>>8617937
It’s not my fault that other people turned my thread into the handheld general. Gravitating towards one thread is just how shit goes when it’s a slow board and another thread is close to dying.

>>8619962
Buy PS Vita

>>8620008
Need to rehack my Vita, afterwards I think I'll use it as my emu device.

>>8615203
>What are people's thoughts on the miyoo mini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx5W1BNGVU4

>headphone jack only works on both speakers when you press it against the board
Fuck. Easy fix with a soldering iron but why this? Why?

I don't have a real reason to own these, I play all the old games on my laptop

>>8620154
Because chinks have awful quality control

>>8619973
Yeah I know, I was just fucking around
>>8620165
My 351P has some light leak on one side and the left analog feels a bit off. They’re so close to creating good devices but inevitably fuck up one thing or another every time. I wonder what their profit margin is on these things… surely they’re making enough to do some fucking QC

>>8620209
The light leak is not something I could manage to fix myself even after following various videos. I'm not sure what has to be done besides putting electric tape there, but it's clear it's a problem with how the case is designed. If you press just a bit on the left side of the screen you'll notice the light leak disappears. There's nothing underneath holding the screen in that spot. As for the analog, these are just not great. I wish they could be replaced with analogs from other consoles.

It's safe to ignore all these if I have a hacked Switch, right?

>>8620321
Are you happy with it and how it emulates? That's really all that matters

How good is Vita at emulating, and how easy is it to transfer files from one memory card to another?

I think I have a 32Gb card in my OG Vita, but I want to get one of those micro SD adapters and hack it. I remember managing files was a fucking pain when it first came out.

I ordered a Miyoo Mini the other week and in the meantime decided to buy the RG300 until the Miyoo got here, then I was going to return the 300... but I like it so much, that I just cancelled the Miyoo order. I wish there was an emulator on there that let you fast forward SNES, but that's my only real gripe.

>>8620314
Yeah you must be right about it being a design flaw. It seems like the left side of the screen has more of a gap while the other side is snug to the case (if that makes sense). I guess that could be related
>nothing underneath holding the screen in that spot.
When you move the analog on yours do you hear a creaking sound? Idk if creaking is the right word… it feels like it’s slightly rubbing up against something. I’ve considered opening up the case to try and adjust that left analog but I’m worried I’d just fuck it up more. Overall it doesn’t bother me too much but it is a mild annoyance

>>8620626
Yes, both sticks do some slight crunching noise. They work fine (sort of, calibrating the left one through PPSSPP shows it's really difficult to get something accurate going, but then again it's so small it's already difficult) but they're not just smooth.

I already tried taking them out, since I disassembled the whole thing. I did fix one thing: the d-pad, doing this:

https://gist.github.com/michaelbutler/b2e65b7757c61886380fac29488db23d

And it worked for sure, after sanding the pivot down to an acceptable point, now the d-pad is just perfect for me. But I couldn't see how to easily disassemble the sticks themselves, so no luck. Primarily the reason why the screen has that flaw is something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UPf9EpvhRw

As you can see, adhesive on 3 corners, but one of them is empty. They left it open to more easily take the screen apart, but that has a huge issue. I tried doing this fix somewhat (without taking apart the screen) and it does fuck all to just cover the gaps though, there's still leaking.

Honestly, I like this thing a lot for what it is but QC is a joke, I don't know why people say Anbernic has that. I guess in comparison to other chinese devices it does. I mean at least the thing doesn't heat up much, the buttons work properly and all, it boots fast, but still. I'm more aggravated though at the microSD slot, it's a pain to insert and take out microSDs on that shit. Also if I could I'd solder better microswitches for the shoulder buttons but no idea about compatibility.

>>8620565
Isn't SNES' performance on the RG300, bad?

Technically not an emulator, but does anyone know if the Analogue Pocket can export/import save files (other than save states)?

>>8621097
Different anon, but yes it is. Maybe some basic games will run okay with frameskip on but it's far from ideal.

I'm going to buy a Miyoo Mini, but they seem unavailable on both Amazon and Ali Express. It is available on KeepRetro, does anyone know if that place is legit?

>>8621264
It boots carts like a GBA would and it can load some GB/C ROMs via GB Studio.

So whatever saves your flashcart or GB Studio supports.

Do all of these pieces of shit run Android these days?

>>8623805
the new generation its almost entirely running on poodroid, unless some linux support in the near future put the things back on track again.

>>8623805
>>8623815
Being salty will not get you your job at Moorechip back.

>>8623805
>>8623815
None of the good ones seem to run Android.

>>8624132
>None of the good ones seem to run Android.
such as...?

>>8617740
Because it is. Even without phone attached grip is terrible for analogues and shoulder buttons. Forget about comfortably playing fast paced action games with these buttons.

>>8624487
Ignore him, it's the same guy. He got fired from Moorechip (the company that makes Retroid handhelds) for being an arse and now comes here (and on various subreddits) claiming all sorts of weird shit. Ever see someone call it "poodroid"? That's him. Other catchphrases include "audio latency" and "pentile matrix". Obviously he has no idea what any of this stuff means.
He's also the guy behind the KTR1, or whatever it's called now.
Beware the corporate entities that operate in these threads.

>>8620345
>How good is Vita at emulating
It's ok for something that old but you can do better with chink handhelds now. Main reason to get one is if you want to play Vita and PSP games as well.

>>8624729
>everyone I don't like is the same guy
Nice schizo logic you've got there

>>8624997
I was wondering how long it would take you to adopt this language. But you are but one person, and this behaviour will undoubtedly put off future employers.

>>8624729
Android is a trash OS though. Calling it poodroid is pretty juvenile and stupid, but otherwise I agree with the possible former employee or whatever this shit is about.

>>8625510
We're onto you

>>8614535
I dislike playing video games on handheld devices.

>>8625532
Any particular reason why, anon? I appreciate handhelds for the fact that I can play them almost anywhere, granted playing video games on the couch is generally a more comfortable experience and handhelds that are too big aren't exactly comfortable either especially on the go, I love the size of these chink handhelds.

i dont play as much as i used to
i do appreciate these threads
im kinda looking for something with comfortable controls, pc engine cd addon, pc-98, saturn, and dreamcast

i play probably 50 minutes or so during my downtime at work
i cycle each device in my pack 1-4 times per week
all have flashcarts

>>8620154
what is this one
i need dpad to take priority over the sticks exactly like this

>>8626804
Why do you have a table with bibles and handhelds on it. Get a bookshelf.

>>8626804
>im kinda looking for something with comfortable controls, pc engine cd addon, pc-98, saturn, and dreamcast
define "comfortable"
Retroid Pocket 2+ offers really good performance for $99 but it might be too cramped.

>>8626808
That's an RG351P. The RG351M and MP also have that layout. I bought the P but I'm not gonna lie, it'd be nice if I could have found the MP for cheaper.

>>8626804
Did you deliberately put Alice in Wonderland next to the Wonder Swan because of the similar names?
>Alice's Adventures Near Wonderswan.

>>8625510
>made by indians
>shitty apps management
>shitty ram management
>shitty update policy
>input lag
yeah, the entire emulation community are juvenile and stupid, but poodroid it's perfect, it's linux that sucks, you fucking retard.

>>8614958
Android is such a shit OS for a device like this. You got layers of shitware consuming performance for no reason, cut-down ports of emulators with missing features, basic software (for stuff like saving controller configs) which costs money, and it's all closed software probably riddled with spyware.
It needs a small dedicated Linux with full retroarch ported to it, like the Miyoo, Anbernic devices etc all have.

>>8627332
>>8627393
You won't get another job by posting this every day

>>8627332
just ignore anon, i bet its the same ones that tells you to emulate on phones, nonsense bullshit.
>>8627393
i agree, i have one 350P and 351P (GBA) and although i liked that RP2+, the fact it uses Android, backed me off, but... Retroid David: "We will open Linux kernel to the community soon."

Can't decide between these two. I don't know much about chink handhelds but the rg300x looks more comfortable for my hands, while the 280v seems to run ps1 games better

>>8628357
I don’t have a rg300x, although I understand that it uses the same chipset but has a higher resolution display. The consensus seems to be that the 300x isn’t worth the extra cost over the 280v in terms of performance alone. It’s really up to you if the form factor makes it worth it, because it does look more comfortable. For what it’s worth, I have a rg280v and it does run ps1 pretty well. I like the device because I can play games one handed or in bed with very little effort since it ways so little.

>>8628369
nice drop bro

why don't you just buy a 2ds? it can play any nintendo handheld game and is really nice to take apart and mod

>>8628510
because emulation on Xds actually sucks ass because the screen sucks and performance sucks
they are also more expensive than most anbernic devices at this point which completely btfo a ds when it comes to emulation performance and screen

>>8628482
Thanks it took me 499 tries.

When the fuck is the RP2+ shipping?

>>8628974
Some time after the 15th i hear

Would anyone happen to know which shoulder button switches are used on the RG351P?

I'm looking to mod these

>>8614891
Emulation is already lower input lag than original hardware, and you have run-ahead. 5th gen and earlier is also perfect at this point.

FPGA is a complete meme

>>8630472
>Emulation is already lower input lag than original hardware
So it's not accurate, then

>>8630792
yes, and that's a good thing.

>>8630792
Performance > Accuracy

So what's the best option for someone who wants to play some GBA, PSX, arcade games and sometimes a SNES?

>>8632452
rg351V or MP

I picked up an RG351MP about a month ago and I've enjoyed it quite a bit, only had a Powkiddy Q80 before so this thing was a major upgrade.

The only thing I dislike about it is it's a bit bulky to carry around if it's in my pants pocket but that rarely is an issue. I am considering getting a more pocket friendly device eventually but all of them tend to have performance issues. Maybe one day.

Does the Powkiddy Q90 have input lag?

>>8632565
Keep an eye out for the release of the Miyoo P60

>>8630792
Leave accuracy to the archivists, if you're emulating for fun performance should be paramount.

>>8630792
it's just to fix input lag with lcd monitors

>>8632565
I'm trying to decide between that and the RP2+. 351MP build quality seems better, but it'd be nice to be able to play some N64 and DC stuff.

First model Vita spoiled me with OLED screens and now the Switch has even moreso. When are the chinks going to start doing OLED displays in these things?

Is the Switch (Lite) still unhacked?

>>8636642
There's a modchip. Still no way to do it without one if that's what you mean though.

How is the rp2+ in terms of quality ? I read it had some issues mainly with backlight bleeding

>>8637027
regardless of the bleed the screen is trash
avoid

>>8614535
Anyone get a shipping notification for a RP2+ ordered in Jan? I heard they were going to clear their backlog this week but I still haven’t heard anything. Order date is Jan 13th.
I’ve considered just cancelling the order if I can because I’ve found my RG351P to be good enough for the most part, so I may as well put the ~$100 spent on the RP2+ towards getting a steam deck in a few months

>>8637027
>>8637085
Do you actually own one? Saying the device should be avoided purely because of the screen seems like a fringe opinion, most people are fine with it from what I’ve seen

>>8635465
>Poodroid devices have input lag and perfomance issues
Wait for the linux support on the RP2+ and it will be perfect budget choice.

>>8637489
It'd be for me if it weren't for the screen and the position of the d-pad. Good lord what the fuck were they thinking

Here's a spreadsheet anons
https://pastebin.com/2eityPS4

>>8637027
The issues were just with the initial release batch, the problem has long been fixed now. The only thing that sucks on the RP2+ is the right analog slider, which, while fully functional, just feels bad (thankfully almost no games use it). In terms of build quality, it feels almost Anbernic level, it's very solidly constructed and feels really nice in the hands.

>>8614643
truly an autistic design

>>8636229
Android phone always win. No competition and the only idiots buying chinkhelds are those that have user error with their phones.

>>8637085
Just stop it with the bullshit already.

>>8638596
Not him, but he's not kidding. The RP2+ is nice from a power perspective and the form factor is nice but holy fucking shit, the screen is washed out and dull as fuck. Shit's to the point where I would honestly pay extra for a nicer screen alone and I legitimately wish they'd offer a nicer screen to buy on their store. The RG351V/MP screens look miles nicer by comparison.

It looks fine if it's literally the only device you own but looking at any other display will show you how bad it looks. I ended up selling mine for almost double RRP to some impatient fuck who couldn't wait for them to start shipping again.

>>8638693
I have one and it really isn't. I think you have the backlight bleed problem. It can affect more than just the edges.

>>8638596
>wahhhh stop criticizing my chinese toy

>>8638064
>thankfully almost no games use it
PS2 has quite a few games that make use of it, but I'm not sure how well that emulates on that, since it already doesn't do all that amazingly with gamecube. If more modern platforms weren't their focus, putting the analog stick on the left as a primary choice (hence why it's at the top) seems like a very silly thing to do. It's like a weird thing where they can't decide between putting more of a focus on modern stuff or more retro. Comes off like the 3DS at first, where they had to put out a revision with a nipple that you move around and a dumb accessory to add a second analog stick to the thing before they decided "oh hey, maybe this would have been better if we want to port newer games to it, whoops"

I ordered the RP2+
I want to see the native Android Morrowind port and can't wait

>>8639535
thought that blanket was her belly
fuck

>>8637498
Yeah that's actually true, the screen not so much since it's a cheap device but the d-pad, you absolute right. But they learned now, for sure.

>>8639535
It works quite well on the RP2+. It takes a bit of finessing to get the UI big enough to work with touch inputs but small enough that it fits on the screen. Hopefully one day someone implements the Xbox UI. But it's certainly playable, been having a lot of fun with it.

Is he right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TprLWlKMdtk