/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8607369
I'm thinking based

>>8607371
Based on what?

>>8607369
no wonder Code Shitonica is the worst classic RE game

>main villain (for most of the game) is some crazed tranny that Claire makes fun of for being a troon
>cheesy action set pieces that fit perfectly with the series’ b-movie style
>the first RE game to take place in more than one singular location
>story that switches between three playable characters
>completely absurd and borderline terrible plot, still very fun
>horrific voice acting that only adds to the charm

Shame the actual core design is fucking abysmal. Could’ve been the best RE game ever if they didn’t fuck it up near the end

>>8607369
CV's gaemplay is the main problem, everything else is classic RE stuff turned to 11.

>>8607386
Psycho, X-files, Matrix, and Titanic

>>8607369
I basically couldn't beat the final boss because I left all of my good weapons on Claire.

>>8607684
Seems a lot of people get screwed over by this game. I managed to beat it back when it was released so I must have got lucky.

>>8607369
Hold up are you telling me that Capcom shamelessly rips off ideas from western media for their games?

>>8607369
Are you just now realizing that devs like Capcom and Konomi take TONS of their ideas from movies?
You'd probably shit yourself if you realized how much stuff comes from Japanese movies in videogames.

>>8607714
They take plenty from Japanese media too.

>>8607369
Alexia's first form is also pretty much Parasite Eve, right down to the fire powers and opera music playing in the mansion foyer fight.
It's weird because 1-3 mostly pulled their ideas from stuff like Romero movies and old monster schlock. On the other hand, CV is this funky time capsule of Y2K pop culture. The only thing it's missing is a Smash Mouth song over the end credits.

>>8607631
Based

>>8607369
I had this for PS2. I tried to play it once for a couple hours and found it to be a pretty abysmal experience. I was never inspired to try it again, and it's solely responsible for me never wanting to play a Resident Evil game prior to RE4 (sadly, the ones after RE4 suck for other reasons).
Luckily, Silent Hill existed to scratch my tank control survival horror itch. I might be missing out, but there's a lot of games out there to play, and I'm just saying all this to indicate the impact a single game can have on the perception of an entire series (if this was even a bad entry, I certainly have no idea).

>>8607369
What are some other trabsphobic games that couldn't come out today?
Like the first Hitman game

>>8607631
finally gottem

>>8607369
They were thinking a ton of different things in different directions. They basically didn't know where to go with the series during this period of time if you don't remember. This game even restarted development across a console generation.

>>8608210
>and it's solely responsible for me never wanting to play a Resident Evil game prior to RE4
You fucked up mate, they're the best ones
CV is a side game that is arguably not even cannon... like that means anything in the RE universe but whatever.

>>8608273
Half the Goemon franchise

>>8608336
What shocks me is how the concept art and monster design went straight down the toilet at this point. I mean, look at the amateurish shit this gallery is full of and compare it to the designs and sketches from 1 and 2. It's fucking embarrassing.

https://imgur.com/a/o8V4O

>>8608397
>CV is a side game that is arguably not even cannon
the insane bullshit people make up in their head, and then just vomit out here as if everyone will just accept it will never cease to amuse me

>>8608407
Wasn't the CV team an outsourced dev team? It was not the same people responsible for 1, 2 or 3 at least.

>>8608431
none of those games had the same dev team

>>8608431
>Wasn't the CV team an outsourced dev team? It was not the same people responsible for 1, 2 or 3 at least.

Most of the Resident Evil 2 dev team worked on Code Veronica. The game engine was outsourced to the same port team that did Resident Evil 1 for the Saturn. But the actual game was designed internally by Capcom.

>>8608397
>>8608421
The duality of RE fans. I'll continue to not play anything but RE4 for now, thanks. Maybe someday when the dust settles, but I have a huge backlog for now as it is.

>>8608273
>What are some other trabsphobic games that couldn't come out today?

It's funny how nobody in 2000 even blinked an eye at the "transphobic" stuff in Code Veronica. The game isn't even 'transphobic' beyond that one line of dialogue uttered by Claire. The main villain wasn't even really trans, as he had multiple personality disorders and would jump between two distinct personalities. One being Alexis. The plot to Code Veronica reads like a summer blockbuster movie list from 1997 to 1999. Clearly Alfred was inspired by Norman Bates from the 1998 remake of Psycho. Which was generally panned for being a remake of Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho from 1960, but worse. It was slammed as being a pointless remake by critics.

>>8608480
Holy shit, I just realized Alfred is named after Hitchcock

>>8608448
>Most of the Resident Evil 2 dev team worked on Code Veronica
I'm looking at the credits on mobygames and it only lists 12 people out of the 200+ member CV team as having also worked on RE2.

>>8608543
>200+ member CV team
Wtf, but /vr/ convinced me that games in the 90s were made by teams of 6-12

>>8608543
>I'm looking at the credits on mobygames and it only lists 12 people out of the 200+ member CV team as having also worked on RE2.

I should have said, maybe just the 'core members'? Though now that I think about it, most of the RE2 team went on to make RE0, did they not? Even Hideki Kamiyai was incharge of the N64 version before it moved to the GameCube. Resident Evil Code Veronica did start development as a port of RE2 to the Saturn. The port team was handled by one of Sega's 'tech teams' called NextTech (or whatever). Capcom made a statement saying that they were sorry about the Saturn game, and moved all their Sega related development to NAOMI and Dreamcast, and offered a new RE game to Sega. NextTECH did the game engine, it literally plays like RE2 with 3D environments. NextTECH may have been in-charge of the game design too. But I always thought this game's core team was made up of RE2 devs. Capcom hyped this one as being the first 'next gen' RE game, but never treated it like it was a mainline game. But I heard the devs treated the game like it was the real RE3, since the plot takes very shortly after RE2 with Claire.

>>8608609

Also, early footage shows the game is using Claires RE2 model:

https://youtu.be/2p7Pye-m6Uo

>>8607369
I really hate the rumors of the RE4 remake when this is the best choice for a remake in the franchise

>>8607371
this
>>8607481
cringe af gtfo out you massive nigger

>>8607549
Code Veronica has the same gameplay as the old games. All the controls are the same
>Code veronica's difficulty curve is the main problem
That's what you meant

>>8608534
>Holy shit, I just realized Alfred is named after Hitchcock

I can't believe that I never made that connection... The game does have a bit of a Psycho vibe going on, with the prison camp being like "Bates motel" and the castle-like mansion on the hill. But then, the game decides to just go to the Antarctic, because one of the designers just saw X-Files: Fight the Future on home video, or something.

>>8608798
You'll see the exact same posts about Dino Crisis. People love to pretend to be epic hardcore "true survival horror" gamers, but the second even the slightest bit of challenge, or capability for user error is introduced, suddenly the game is bad.

>>8608556
Yeah, like fucking NES games and SOME 16-bit games.
Gen 5's dev teams are closer to what we see today then not.

>>8608824
you're not making sense

>>8608869
Definitely not close to today

Steve is the worst character in the entire series

>>8608798
>difficulty curve
All zombies can be killed with the OP knife if you can't just run past them, saving tons of ammo+health for later fights

>>8608336
Yeah there was even a whole Nazi angle that must have been cut very late in development because there's remnants of it all over the place.

>>8607537
Fun fact: Claire in this game was voiced by the clown girl from Big Comfy Couch.

>>8608957
Haha I know. Still the best voice for Claire in my opinion. Was a little miffed when they replaced her for Rev2 and then again for Remake2. She does the character very well

>>8607537
>the series’ b-movie style
stop with this. it was never intentional. the very reason that capcom likes to pretend the original doesnt exist and has been sufficiently replaced by REmake is because they were mortified when they realized how bad the voice acting was. the game was taken seriously from the start. it wasn't even a thing that people were doing at the time, to pay homage to cheese or try to make something cheesy on purpose, especially not in japan.

>>8609107
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

>>8609134
>no u

>>8608910
They throw lots of things at you in the first few minutes. Within the first 10 minutes of the game, you'll fight a ton of zombies, dogs, and even giant worm/snake things.

There's a level of openness to the start of the first game that feels more open-worldy and lets you decide which of these areas to tackle and in which order.
If you don't know where to go, you will end up fighting a ton of monsters before you even get the handgun.
The difficulty curve in this game is REAL and I LIKE THAT

>>8609192
>First game
I mean first area in the game

>>8607369
Alfred definitively is not a tranny. He’s not making a conscious decision to dress as his sister. He has a split personality and literally thinks he is Alexia when that side of his mind takes over. Same deal with Norman Bates when “mother” takes over.

Eat shit, OP. I’m so fucking sick of this website’s obsession with trannies. I hope you die soon.

Japs stole shit from America all the time.

>>8609264
It's just this generation's autist/faggot/nigger. Let the kids use their trendy insults, something new will come along in a few years and annoy them.

>>8609264

I guess the current term is : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder

Or multiple personality disorder, as would be refereed too in the past.

No Leon, no buy

>>8610018
Too bad the American developers couldn't steal good games from Japan back in 90s

>>8610021
>this generation's
Nah it's an obsession 4chan has specifically, no other website is like this, not even by 0.0001%.

I really dislike the amount of item boxes in this game, they're very few and far between and the world isn't fun to navigate when you have to run back to one.

Imagine CV Claire in HD

>>8609264
>>8608480
>The main villain wasn't even really trans
Culture wars have gotten to the point everything gets viewed under tranny lens, sjws and lefties would see Alfred as a transphobic stereotype, righties would consider him a tranny even though he technically isn't

>>8612376

I really like the character Alfred. One of my favourite RE side villains. I do like that when he is "Alfred" he is a lunatic for most of the game. But then the game does pull a 'psycho moment' on Alexia. But it does turn out that Alexia was controlling him telepathically?

AQnd this game is a bit like a Sonic CD situation. Where the devs of Sonic Cd treated that like the real Sonic 2, even though the game would have never been released as a mainline game. This one, the devs treated Code Veronica like it was their version of RE3. The Alfred and Alexia stuff as kids, was connecting a lot of main story points to them in a weird way. The game would have never been called RE3 though. The game takes place 4 months after RE3. Though RE3 take place in parallel with RE2.

I quite liked it
Except for the end