/vr/ - Retro Games

BTW anyone who says Tony Hawk doesn't deserve the top spot is a retard that doesn't deserve to be called a video gamer

I see no issues outside of Madden and Tony Hawk 4 (first step into the series decline).

>>8585201
I also don't really like THPS 4, but it's still Tony Hawk so it still has top-notch game mechanics. Underground is a lot better since it takes the disconnected feeling of THPS 4's goals and ties it together with a story

GTA really getting these 95 scores despite playing like sludge because "dude! i'm in a big city and I can drive a car!"

>>8585210
GTA is fun at its core, the problem is Rockstar without fail always runs out of mission ideas and just has you do the most obnoxious shit near the end to bad out time

>4re
>on ps2
replace with onimusha

>>8585245
>>4re
>>on ps2
it's still a good version even with the worse graphics. Separate Ways is a fun mode

>>8585194
>7/10 of them were released in October
>Only one wasn't released in Fall
yo what the fuck

Normalfag trash.

>>8585261
i'm willing to bet that all of the first 3 tony games are better than your favorite game

Remember when being a skater was cool?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k

Depends how you look at the rankings. GTA III was innovative at the time, but in a video game market where every game is open world it feels pretty bad.

Besides that though, I think overall it isn't a bad list. Thps 4 is trash imo, also while I'm sure that Madden made more money then any of these games I wouldn't put it on a ranking.

Also 3 GTA games is pretty cringe. I would say San Andreas is the best one on paper, but vice city has certain features that make it superior to certain individuals. Pick one and let other games shine.

>>8585261
just like the ps2 in general

>>8585194
interestingly they are not the games that held up today but wowed during their time.

>>8585194
Madden 04 was better and vice city kinda sucked but other than that, list is fine

>>8585307
THPS 3, RE4, and DMC at least hold up. DMC less than the others but it has its fans. MGS2 is also good and I wouldn't necessarily say it's aged, the controls feel fine, I just think it's a very flawed game in general

>>8585194
>Devil May Cry
never understood the appeal, I remember getting so bored watching its previews and demos on TV

>>8585331
when I heard that you are playing a demon hunter that hacks shit with the big ass sword and two pistols I was sold immediately

>>8585194
I don't see any Sly Cooper on that list.

>>8585194
>GT3
Gran Turismo 4 is better and still holds up to this day

>>8585194
>1 exclusive

That's a fucking yikes.

>>8585527
>one chadhesive
ftfy

>>8585194
>THPS3
Essentially flawless and the peak of one of the greatest franchises of all time.
>GTA3
Popularized the open-world genre and revolutionized 3D gaming.
>RE4
Reimagined one of gaming's greatest franchises and helped to popularize the over-the-shoulder style of gameplay which still dominates today.
>MGS2
A timeless masterpiece that still feels eerily relevant.
>GTASA
Debatably the best entry in what might be the most important franchise in modern gaming.
>GTAVC
The first one which probably doesn't deserve to be here. A fun, albeit unspectacular follow-up to GTA3.
>GT3
The game which finally demonstrated the potential of the PS2. One of the best selling games ever made, and a game which was comically far ahead of its nearest competitors in terms of scope, polish, and realism.
>Madden 03
I mean, it's a Madden game. In its defense, 03 probably does represent the peak of the franchise, and Madden was a gargantuan titan in those days.
>THPS4
Undeserving, in my opinion. It's fun, but messy. It's worst fate is being sandwiched between THPS3 and THUG.
>DMC
DMC3 is probably more deserving, but DMC1's brand of gameplay was unheard of in 3D gaming at the time.

>>8585194
you'll notice that outside of san andreas and re4 this is all early or launch ps2 games
that's the reason why they're all on top. probably all the reviews from 2001 journalists and fanboys who didn't know any better at the time

>THPS3
Decent
>GTA3
Bad on consoles, mediocre on PC
>RE4
Shit controls, shit gameplay, storyshit
>MGSanything
Shit controls, shit gameplay, storyshit
>GTASA
See GTA3
>GTAVC
Shit on consoles, pretty good on PC
>GT3
Car pokemon shit with autistic carnerd shit controls.
>handegg 2003
No
>THPS4
Meh
>DMC
Shit controls, shit gameplay, shit everything.

>tony hawk, gta, gta, gta, gta
6th gen was... .a mistake.
Also RE4 on PS2? really?

>>8585748
>Also RE4 on PS2? really?
Added Seperate Ways. It's not enough to take it over GC imo, Separate Ways is fun but it's not as tightly designed or replayable as the main campaign, but it's more content so PS2 version is arguably better even with the worse graphics

>>8585748
Its much worse then that

>>8585956
Burgers have pretty shit taste in games.

>>8585291
Anal Loving, I- mean Avril Lavigne is back now.

>>8585194
>GTA III > VC/SA
>MGS2 > MGS3
>GT3 A-Spec > GT4
>DMC1 > DMC3
Yeah, I agree.

>>8585210
yeah, but it was kind of revolutionary at the time.

>>8585194
That's actually a great list.

>>8585956
kinda glad I stopped playing new vidya in 2006.

>>8585956
Weird to see movie tie-in dreck like Enter the Matrix and Star Wars Episode III on a top-selling list. Nobody talks about those games anymore.

tony hawk are the only games that deserve their places

>>8585302
Most of those games have sweet soundtracks.

>>8585194
I didn't see any of the SSX snowboarding games or the many Star Wars games on that list.

>>8585194
In this order:
Europe, piracy and third world countries

>>8585194
Aside from THPS3 and MGS2, my taste in PS2 games were very different for "must plays". However, I have accepted that my tastes do not match many others for consoles and computers prior to the PS2.

>>8587812
>JP Spy Fiction cover
Nice cover! Too bad the game itself is rubbish.

>>8587818
I am a fan of Tsukasa Jun art. Did a lot of character design work for games I liked. Check out the art in series like Power Instinct, Taisen Hot Gimmick, various Konami and Psikyo titles.

>>8585570
Some sort of glue?

>>8587812
Fellow Demento/Haunting Ground liker. You've doubled our fan club today.

>>8587812
thunder force 6 sucks

>>8588074
Kek

>>8585210
Get good, tard

>>8585261
That's nearly all 6th gen console games. True autists gamed on PC.

>>8585728
>Shit controls, shit gameplay, shit everything.
Did little baby get filtered in the first enemy room?

>>8586536

GTA 1 was. GTA 3 was just the series finally becoming polished enough and 3D enough to reach normal people.

>>8585331

I bought a copy several years ago and played a ways into it because of how much hype it gets. It was indeed boring and I lost interest

>>8585194
Wow were the ps2 THPS games that lauded? I played the hell out of THPS2 but didn't come back to the series until THUG(also loved) and then stopped since. But I don't remember the ps1 THPS games having this much hype, especially compared to THPS2.

>>8590095
3 is the best in the series imo, until 1+2 came out at least. Reverts mean you can combo for however long you're skilled enough to do it. And the physics are smoother in general. THPS2 maybe had better levels though. 3 has the better soundtrack but that's completely opinion-based

Games that hold up

GT4- licence tests and used cars are still fun

Tekken tag- fun

Ff 10- good jarpig

Deus ex- it's not shit

Disgaea- story is shit, but there is potentially hundreds of hours of gameplay if you like srpgs

>>8585194
>Skateboarding faggotry
>GTA slop
>Mutt ball
Laughably off the mark then and even more so now.

>>8590095
It was a product of the time and hyped up. THPS was never good.

>>8585194
Dead franchise
Garbage
Great game
Great game
Good
Garbage
Good
Lol
Garbage
Great game

>>8587812
>Chain Dive
Based

>>8587818
>rubbish
That's a bit harsh, it's a fairly competent if unremarkable MGS clone. As far as PS2 games go, there are far worse.

>>8585331
Are you saying you never played it, a game lauded for its gameplay that especially at that time had a strong argument for having the best gameplay ever, and didn't get the appeal?

Even outside of the gameplay, it was really stylish and had a great aesthetic and tone. It's not even my kind of thing and it's still at the very least a 9/10 amazing game.

>>8585972
MUH BURGER

>>8591338
Yes and...

>THPS
If you want to do combos just play a fighting game.

>>8591358
absolutely retarded
play more video games
>Don't play DMC just play fighting games
>Don't play Hotline Miami just play fighting games
>Don't play Dustforce just play fighting games
Not everyone wants to play fucking fighting games and your genre doesn't claim ownership to the concept of chains

>>8591431
>Don't play DMC just play fighting games
Yes, unironically.

>>8585260
That's customarily the big release time.

>>8591343
Just wanted to make your day faggot

>>8585195
Thps3 yes, 4 doesn't deserve it.

>>8587812
Do you have an online portfolio of sorts for your game collection? this is probably the 5th time this past month ive seen your exact handwriting on photos of kino games. Would love to see what else you have and chat sometime, good stuff.

>>8585194
>THPS2
Underground was the best of that gen.
>GTA 3
Pick any of them, doesn't matter.
>Resi 4
Trash version but still a great game.
>MGS2
The goat of all goats
>more GTA
>GT3 A-Spec
No idea if people liked this or 4 better, only played 4.

>Madden
lol
>THPS4
Underground
>DMC1
Absolutely kino pick

>>8590393
>disgaea- story is shit
This guy choked on a black pretzel.

>>8585194
Good enough except for handegg and THPS

>>8585195
Maybe THPS1/2 on ps1, the rest are rehashes fag

>>8585194
Those games are all shit.

THPS4 is god
timer nerds got btfod

>>8594053
Still doesn't excuse the shitty taste of American gamers who support crappy game developers, but okay.

>>8594518
Making your day again faggot

>>8595241
Thanks for the (you) I guess, but that's my honest opinion.

>>8585194
Only one that doesn't really belong is RE4, being the shittiest port of the game.

>>8595312
The PS2 version was perfectly playable and was available on a console more people owned at the time. The fact that it had extra content helped a lot too. Nobody back then gave crap whether the cutscenes were prerendered on the PS2 or how better the trees looked on the GameCube.

>>8595326
No need to get so defensive autismo
>Nobody back then gave crap whether the cutscenes were prerendered on the PS2 or how better the trees looked on the GameCube.
Except people did notice it looked worse in just about every way, from the textures to the pre-rendered cutscenes.

>>8595331
>No need to get so defensive autismo
You're the one complaining about a PS2 port of a GameCube game getting high ratings, not me. I'm just explaining why it happened.
>Except people did notice it looked worse in just about every way, from the textures to the pre-rendered cutscenes.
Fanboys on forums did, but that's not the majority of people.

>>8595332
>You're the one complaining about a PS2 port of a GameCube game getting high ratings, not me
You're the one getting defensive over it lmao

>>8585194
>The highest rated PS2 games
by who?

>>8595356
There are worse ports out there. When it comes to RE4, the worst mainstream port was the PC DVD-ROM version that came out during the late 2000's.

>>8594446
>and THPS
I'm going to have to guess you're a cringe fucking nerd with thick glasses who never played Tony Hawk but thinks it has to be bad because it's le sportsball

>>8594507
THPS 4 is a janky transition between the old style and the new style. Underground is a much, much better game with the new style.

>>8596009
4 has way more interesting maps than thug's generic cities

>>8595360
The same people who call Zelda an RPG.

>>8594447
reverts are a huge addition like the manual
3 definitely had enough reason to exist

>>8585394
this is the adult games list.

>>8594518
Considering both here in the UK and in Australia FIFA and CoD are also top of the list every year, we're actually pretty similar to the US.

>>8596265
Should've included Euros too then.

>>8596347
You don't because you're obsessed. It's the same everywhere faggot.

The masses are asses. Doesn't matter where.

>>8585194
south america

>>8585194
yes it's a casual list for casual gamers which make up the majority of gamers

>>8597493
Japanese best-sellers don't really have that many sports shovelwares though. Mostly they're just RPG nerds.

>>8597972
Japan taste has went to absolute shit. Gacha is king there and has been for years.

>>8597972
There's a lot of fucking kuso forgettable RPGs that are worse than sports games

>>8597972
japanese best sellers; mahjong, jrpgs, dating sims, visual novels, gambling sims

>>8587812
GHS has some neat ideas but it's so half baked

>>8585194
RE4 and sportball are the only bad picks. RE4 only because the PS2 version is a garbage port.

>>8598785
RE4 on PS2 is not that bad.

>>8598765
I can promise you there's one Pro Yakyuu games on a Japanese best seller list each year. NPB is a popular sportsball there, after all.

>>8585195
Lol shut up you retard

>>8585956
>normalfags took over gaming in 2001 and it never recovered

>>8599747
Play tony hawk weeb nerd

>>8585956
We're talking about Ratings, not Sales, retard. Follow along.


>>8585972
Europe normalshits as well. Replace Madden with FIFA on that list and it's about on par in terms of basic bitch tastes.

>>8598765
>Watching a vid. on "All Games from [x] System"
>Majority of Jap only titles were VNs
I was shocked with the amount of VN/Dating Sims on PS2 that I turned it into a drinking game.

>>8585194
If this list isnt exclusively sega ages and virtua cop rebirth its wrong.

>>8588079
Fiona has the attributes that I look for in a good Capcom game. Plus it is interestingly different by mechanics with Hewie.

>>8588097
I really liked some of the other games in the series, and it is not that bad. It was worth the try for me.

>>8590627
That was a forgotten game at one time. Amazed to see more appreciate it.

>>8594374
Wait a minute, that card.

>>8598769
It is charming by premise alone. A cool visual style to boot.

>>8594447
>2
>not a rehash

>>8594447
>>8601132
Honestly you're both retards, yes 2 and 3 aren't very innovative, but that doesn't fucking matter, they added the manual and revert and smoothed out the controls. They're worthy sequels.

having all 3 GTAs is dumb
madden being on there at all is dumber
I remember not liking thps4 nearly as much as 2/3 but its been forever
DMC3 is my favorite game but 1 is great
never playing gran turismo
MGS is for fags
RE4 is prettygud though
Id probably put something like
>Devil May Cy 3
>Kingdom Hearts 2
>Ratchet & Clank 3
>Final Fantasy X
>Resident Evil 4
>Guitar Hero 3
>Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3
>God of War 2
>Dragon Quest 8
>Armored Core Last Raven(or 3 since LR is kind of fucking hard)

>hurr look at all this normalfag shit xD im so unique
/vr/ always manages to be worse than /v/

>>8601129
What's that SEGA game on the right column, middle row?

>>8601273
Blood Will Tell: Osamu Tezuka's Dororo
https://www.mobygames.com/game/blood-will-tell-tezuka-osamus-dororo

>>8601263
Pretty comical actually. This board should, by design have a much older userbase that's far past giving a shit about trying to be epic enlightened taste gamer man but it's still for some reason flooded with a bunch of teenage weebs.
>omg is that a SPORTSBALL game? the people who beat me up in highschool play those they can't be good. where's doki doki panty sniffer #4?