/vr/ - Retro Games

nope, retroarch killed it

>>8593318
i downloaded it just days before the announcement. they cant uninstall it off my pc

>>8593320
ok

>>8593318
Good, the way it was going with it's fucking phone gui shit was retarded. It thinkg my PC is a fucking phone so I have to circle my mouse over and over hoping hit the button.

>>8593340
Did you click the Qt .exe?

>>8593320
what happened?

>>8593343
and then he bought an ice cream cone on sale.

>>8593298
Wake me up when there's a community update fork

>>8593368
There is, and has been for quite some time now. It's libretro only though, which I'm sure is somehow a problem for you.

>>8593318
By being used more?

>>8593416
By stealing code like all retroarch kikes do. kys for shilling for it

>>8593420
how can you steal what's open source?

>>8593424
if you're not trolling, look up what an open source license is

>>8593424
They were caught stealing from dev's private repo which did not have an open-source license.

>>8593469
What was the code that was stolen? And how did they steal from a private repo? Did they hack into it?

mednafen bros?

>>8593469
Yeah, they totally hacked his private repo to steal his superl33t emulator code.

>>8593463
then how do forks get made?
>>8593469
proof?

>>8593298
it doesn't have to be

dev was just mad someone actually used the GPL as it was supposed to be used and upset at himself for using GPL because now he wanted phat cash for it and how dare people use his share and sharealike code released under a copyleft license now that he doesn't want people to, oh and people totally stole code from me, totally 100% real guys
What a twat.

>>8593571
>dev was just mad someone actually used the GPL as it was supposed to be used
The ENTIRETY of this stupid played-out drama all boils down to this one single point.

>>8593571
based, open source devs always get what they deserve

This whole thing is pretty funny considering duckstation itself wouldn't exist without other emulators.

https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/search?q=mednafen&type=code
https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/search?q=mednafen&type=commits
https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/search?q=pcsx&type=code

>>8593571
Is this seriously what happened? Why would you use the GPL if you didn't want to actually use it

>>8593340
>phone gui shit was retarded
still better gui than mednafen or retroarch

>>8593604
Because the more he posts about it, the more we all realize that he doesn't actually understand how these licenses work. He's tried to selectively choose who can/can't work on his code and/or fork it. He's tried to add non-monetization clauses to (his incorrect interpretation of) the GPL he's using. He's even tried to retroactively revoke the GPL for code that's already been written (which is really funny because some of that code wasn't his in the first place and was taken from OTHER GPL'ed projects). None of this has worked, and he was completely unaware he couldn't actually do any of it. Needless to say, he's not happy. The real straw that broke the camel's back came a few days ago when he thought he could just take his code and go home and the SwanStation fork would just disappear. Twitter turned into a comedy goldmine as his fanclub came out to chastise TA and company about "respecting his wishes regardless of the legality of it."

>>8593615
Holy shit, what a circus. I'm not a dev and I understand what the GPL is... it's not a very long read, if I remember correctly. Pretty clear cut language, too. I knew that it was based on Mednafen as well, which really does make this all the more baffling. Wow.
>>8593608
I agree. I'm going to keep using it until something more appealing comes along

>>8593318
Ironically enough, RetroArch is keeping it alive right now with SwanStation.

>Check the git
>It's read-only
Huh, wonder what happened?

>>8593640
It's like how RA keeps Mesen alive.

retroarch killed duckstation, it's a lying, stealing, unintuitive piece of shit software that's been slowly killing the emulation scene for years now

>>8593696
by having more people use emulation on way more devices?

>>8593696
Oh yeah anon, they're totally killing emulation by making it easier to emulate tons of different systems on all sorts of different devices. Truly first degree murder.

>>8593696
>slowly killing the emulation scene
A lot of libretro contributors are the reason why we have quality N64, Dreamcast and Genesis/SegaCD emulation nowadays.
>inb4 those systems don't matter

>>8593318
Guy schizzed hard and killed it himself. Some percentage of opensource devs lose their absolute shit when other people use their opensource stuff for what their chosen license allows, and that's what happened. At the moment, he's now switched to screeching to twittards that they stole secret code they couldn't see or access, which he won't let anyone confirm conveniently, for some ungodly purpose. There's only one thing emudevs like more than having autism, and it's flinging shit for no sane reason. RA devs are also cunts, you can't escape it.

>>8593735
It's really weird that people think it's killing emulation just because you don't use their GUI

>>8593750
RA's GUIs really seem to set off peak level autism in some anons and I still don't get it.

>>8593753
I'm not a fan of it, but I'm not about to pretend that it's killing emulation or anything. It just feels clunky to me.

>retroarch defence force initiated

>>8593298
Why do you ask a question you already know the answer to? I just did that myself. To talk about drama of course.

>>8593753
GUI is where the soul lives. It's a contentious issue.

>>8593781
I'll gladly throw twinaphex to the wolves, but there's nothing wrong with most libretro contributors and RetroArch in general.

>>8593486
Mednafen was always the correct emulator.

>>8593798
Many devs of good, popular emulators, including from MAME, have criticized RetroArch's approach of emulator-as-a-library and the flaws it has. And what libretro core contributors have achieved is not something for RetroArch to take primary credit for.
I don't expect 4chan of all communities to have good opinions about this but we'll keep seeing talented authors of emulators quit their work after getting robbed and bullied and the shader-loving parasites here won't give a shit because those people are "trannies". I can't fix your brain worms.

>>8593813
>and the flaws it has
which are what specifically?

>>8593813
>from MAME, have criticized RetroArch's approach of emulator-as-a-library
>MAME
>the library of Arcade emulators

>>8593813
Take your sad appeal to authority and shove it right back up your ass.
>we'll keep seeing talented authors of emulators quit their work after getting robbed and bullied
But you're not seeing it now. You're under no obligation to contribute to libretro. No one's forcing them to do so. They're not getting "robbed and bullied" outside of their own imaginations. Also, if you don't want people using your code, close the source. You don't get to play these bullshit social justice political games with your software just because you don't like a particular person (or subset of people) using your code. If you want to do that bullshit, license your code in a way that allows you to do so, and not the fucking GPL of all things.

>>8593813
>including from MAME
They've had an unending vendetta against libretro for years now because they had the exact same plans to make a unified front-end for multiple emulators, but libretro beat them to the punch. I would take anything they say with a grain of salt, especially since they can't stick to their own mission-statement with their own project. (preservation vs playability)
>we'll keep seeing talented authors of emulators quit their work after getting robbed
Did stenzek "rob" mednafen and dolphin when used their source-code? No, he acted within the GPL. You can't have a "rules for thee but none for me" attitude with open-source.
>bullied
I already said that I don't defend any of twinaphex's asshattery, but trying to drag down RA with it over unsubstantiated claims is literal retardation.
>I can't fix your brain worms.
Grow a brain instead. You're just parroting rhetoric that you haven't bothered researching.

>>8593813
>getting robbed
Bullied, sure. RA's devs are habitually assholes. You dumbfucks keep saying stealing is happening though, and there's nothing indicating that. People put their code on free-for-use licenses with conditions, the project just does that. Throwing fits about your own licenses is literal fucking insanity and COMES FROM YOU as a developer, not someone else.

You don't hear of RA stealing DraStic for example - despite being a slightly more accurate emu than desmume - because that guy made a closed source emu and people aren't allowed to just take it.

>>8593298
you can still get it, why is everyone acting like it's gone? just because support died doesn't mean it's gone

>>8593851
I mean the overreacting /v/tards saying ROM downloading was over because of the Emuparadise shit makes it not surprising.

>>8593851
I'm happy with mednafen personally, but I could see why people are unhappy with seeing a project go unfinished. Duckstation still had some obscure emulation inaccuracies that never got solved, and ideally you'd like to have as much compatibility as possible for games. It's basically incomplete.

>I warned them. I warned them and they didn't listen.

>>8593696
I don't get why retroarch gets so much praise. Centralization is shit overall and I really don't see how it is superior to having individual emulators installed. It doesn't even always have the best emulator available. It just feels like a go to solution for people that are to lazy to do something as simple as open advanced settings, let alone use a command line.

>>8593298
lmao now that Retroarch is in the sights of the twitter mob, they're being blamed for Near's 100% real suicide they just remembered, now that the "the evil farming site did it" narrative didn't hold up.

consume outrage and get excited for next outrage

>>8593873
Is that a threat?

>>8593897
>the "the evil farming site did it" narrative didn't hold up.
But Near made it painfully clear that the evil farming site was directly responsible, as per his emails back and forth with the owner.

>>8593897
I see the MAME lies and personal agenda has taken root

>>8593897
>>8593906
evil farming site?

>>8593901
The closed source version of this

>>8593909
Kiwi Farms. The doxxing website that keeps track of and harasses people they deem as lolcows. Like Chris-chan, for example. They did a write-up on Near, and it was (in his own words) the reason he took his own life.

>>8593881
>Centralization is shit overall
You're misusing the term here. When people speak negatively about "centralization", they're usually referring to stuff like global markets, monopolies, merging of service sectors etc. Centralization implies as if RA is making standalone emulators obsolete and not a choice for anyone. RA's existence doesn't centralize emulation, it's just another choice within a myriad of choices.

In this instance, having a unified frontend for your programs does have inherent advantages, such as global configs and feature parity (such as being able to apply runahead to every emulator, which isn't even an option in most standalones, or is poorly implemented).

>>8593486
Reportan

>>8593813
>I don't expect 4chan of all communities to have good opinions about this
Way to make it obvious you're not from around here. Wherever it is you came from, do us all a favor and go back.

>>8593914
byuu isnt dead, he's such a massive faggot and mad that they were making fun of him he faked his death so he can be left alone

>>8593753
I firmly refuse to use retroarch because how ugly and counter-intuitive is it. Why would you think the fucking ps3 menu would be a good idea to navigate through? It's shit. SHIT.

>>8593881
This anon speaks gold.

That being said, I'm glad the cuckstation advertising threads will cease.

faggot jannie deleting posts about byuu faking his death

>>8594104
I still like to think he tried to use his fake death to take down resetera (or whatever forum he was fighting against), it was all over his """final""" statement, really transparent. It didn't work, but still, you don't see that every day.

>>8594126
Not to imply a proper desktop menu wouldn't be the ideal, but xmb isn't even the default anymore and you could change it to the switch (ozone) or rgui for years.

>>8593298
>>8593318
What happened?

>>8594145
That's also disgusting.
Let me use a mouse.

>>8594154
How would you use a mouse on something like a Switch?

>>8594161
I don't give a damn about the Switch or whatever, senpai. I'm using a computer.
Why would anyone use a console to emulate another console?

>>8594164
Homebrewing consoles has been a thing for decades.

>>8594154
They all have mouse support. There's also the desktop menu.
It's a shame it's abandoned.

It's been funny seeing other sites like plebbit completely turn on retroarch in the span of a single day. Whenever I see any discussion about good things retroarch does, people start pretending as if they were never good in the first place. I've seen multiple people claim that runahead is cheating, and was never a good feature to begin with.

wew

https://i.4cdn.org/b/1643966901902.png

>>8594168
>Homebrewing consoles has been a thing for decades.
Isn't console emulation absolutely mouse numbers when compared to the people that use their computer?

>>8593813
>4chan
this is 4channel mate

>>8593897
>consume outrage and get excited for next outrage
stealing this, thanks. it is GPL, right?

>>8594126
>Why would you think the fucking ps3 menu would be a good idea to navigate through? It's shit. SHIT.
X axis plus Y axis actually works very well with controllers, which all have analogue sticks and/or D-pads. I think it's pretty well conceived.

>>8594178
No one should be surprised. There's too much of an incentive to virtue signal on sites that rely on social capital and reputation, complete with actual metrics like upvotes. And it just so happens RetroArch's lead developer is a textbook bogeyman for their kind. It's like moths to a flame.

>>8593424
Copylefters are as DMCA-happy as Copyrighters. They're just mad they don't have 10 gigajillion dollars to do so at the same rate as corporate every time someone uses their code for something they don't like.
>>8593813
>>8593821
It's weird, but the primary problem stems from the expectancy of standalone devs to also waste time keeping the RA cores up-to-date, and then everyone involved has a spergfest. MAME's merging of MESS to make it basically RA, but also not, has one thing about it that makes it less spergy, which is that MAME's "cores" are their own, not collected from other egotistical devs and mashed together. If you want to know just how much of an ego these standalone Copyleft dweebs have, just think of how much we have 3+ emulators each for every system, because they refuse to work together on the same project, instead opting to go "MINE'S THE FUCKING BEST", because they're a bunch of faggots. Mesen is clunky & decent, but the original dev decided, "I'm not going to add any of the unlicensed mappers, because who cares?" Thus, we have the Plug n' Play oriented NintendulatorNRS to fill the gap that faggot didn't care about.
RA is a shitstorm of standalone devs whining about whether their "cores" are up to date & being harassed by their very own, retarded, Plebbit & Twatter fanbase to keep their standalone emu updated at the same pace as the cores, whether or not they want to do the work involved.

>>8593819
Same problem that ePSXe and PCSX2 and other plugin based emulators had. There's no way to one-size-fits-all something as complicated as an emulator so what happens as inevitably as the sun rising is that an ever increasing amount of work has to go into shims, hacks and workarounds to make a square peg fit in a round hole.

>>8594126
>Why would you think the fucking ps3 menu would be a good idea to navigate through?
PS3's XMB is literally the best UI a console has ever had. It's sleek and snappy. Fucking brainlets

>>8594378
>>8594251
Now I understand why people make fun of modern console players.

>>8594378
Recent RetroArch 1.10 Update finally made the Edges Transparent.

>>8593298
Nope, but SwanStation is:

https://github.com/libretro/swanstation

>>8594378
>place blu-ray disc in ps3
>hit play button
It's great for that but I would never try to do something like configure pcsx2 with it.

>Duckstation is dead due to RetroArch autism
>OoT source port is dead due to waycissum

>>8593736
>spend your time and effort making cool thing
>nigger copy your cool thing and give it a different name
>barely mention the original author to comply with legal requirements
>nigger act like he's the creator of cool thing
>nigger shoves his ripped off core in RetroArch library
>RA users donate or keep supporting RA with Patreon, which is fucking cancer
>Original emu developer doesn't get one fucking cent, no recognition and the RetroArch thieves won't make one single effort

RetroArch is cancer, period. If you don't bother with supporting your emulator in RetroArch, RAniggers won't stop pestering you. If you do, you have to put up with drama and elitism. Those responsible for RA are HUGE spergs, impossible to deal with. No one wants to put up with those cunts. And if you don't, some faggot will just copy your code, create a core, and the RA cunts keep 100% of the money.

In practice, it is a scam for making money with other people's work. Fuck RetroArch thieves and fuck RetroArch cuck soiboi slaves.

>>8594467
> you have to put up with drama and elitism.
Ironic

>>8594467
You mean like how Stenzek copied the cool thing that is Mednafen to build his project? He's a double standard-abusing faggot who has tried to rally community support because the big bad boogeymen of Libretro used his open-source project.

Why are programmers such drama queens? do programming cause them to go bonkers or do they get into programming because they were bonkers to begin with?

>>8594467
You released the code under GPL, if anything, it is your fault.

>>8594493
Yes...

>>8594456
>OoT source port
Oh God, no. What happened? You're talking about a source port and not the entire decompilation effort here, right?

Who cares if there is no more updates ? What do you want more ? Everything works really well, only 10 games have issues and nobody cares about them

In fact it's a good thing he is now going to be completely focused on pcsx2

>>8593298
Too busy working on Aethersx2

>>8594575
It's amazing the kind of effort that went into it.

I can even run Stuntman (PS2) on it, albeit with a few stutters on some levels with OpenGL.

>>8594579
Yeah Aethersx2 is amazing. I had no idea Stuntman worked since it doesn't even run properly on PCSX2. Are you using the PAL or NTSC version?

>>8594592
PAL

Unfortunately, it still has performance-related issues on Software Mode, and Graphical issues on Hardware Mode, but it's running a lot better than it did on Earlier Versions.

>>8594456
Does the OoT thing have to do with using the original release with the Islamic chants or something else?

Fags complaining about Retroarch but can't provide actual good alternatives.

Most standalone from the fifth gen onward are all outdated as fuck, people will keep using Retroarch to not deal with several problems configuring multiple things with every single piece of software. It's just the equivalent of dealing with multiple launchers

>>8594407
this kind of UI is so bad that the most downloaded Skyrim mod is one that removes this stupid UI style and replaces it with a better one.

>>8594561
There are two source ports. One made by a bit team, another made by two guys. Those two guys broke up, The other team is unaffected.

>>8593318
No. The tranny butthurt autist behind duckstation killed it himself

>>8594807
You’re retarded. The UI in Skyrim is bad because of how shit it makes inventory management in the game. It’s perfectly fine as the launcher UI because all your shit is already organized in folders and it just presents it in an appealing way.

>>8594807
Which one would you prefer the most?

You have the Switch-like UI, the Pixel-CRT UI and the iOS/Android UI.

they killed my favorite ps1 emulator

now somewhere, somehow

someone's going to pay

>>8594467
>spend your time and effort making mednafen
>nigger copies mednafen and give it a different name, adds a hardware renderer (which the original creator never wanted) and slaps on Dolphin's UI
>barely mention the original author to comply with legal requirements
>attempts to make his emulator closed-source, which would be a violation of the GPL
>nigger act like he's the savior of PS1 emulation
>Original emu developer doesn't get one fucking cent because he never really cared about the money, and accepts that projects will fork from him as long as it complies with GPL
>Original emu developer isn't a drama queen and keeps to himself while updating his emulator

You're supposed to emulate video games, not console wars.

>>8595052
>mednafen
At least duckstation actually worked, mednafen is completely unusable.

>>8595132
Mednafen has higher compatibility than DS though. The developer also frequently updates it, and he's the only reason why we have functional PS1/Saturn/PC Engine emulation at all.

>>8595182
I have never managed to get Mednafen to ever actually work. Duckstation just works, its the only PS1 emulator I have ever found that actually does.

>>8595182
UI is very important too but the mednafen dev seems to be anal about it

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=mednafen+gui

That wasn’t so hard was it?

>>8595226
You could just use many of the frontends for mednafen

>>8594467
Schizonek, this is embarrassing.

>>8595132
>t. retard

Works on my machine.

Mednafen is also way more accurate

>>8595205
They all just work and emulate most anything you throw at them without a fuss, even the much-maligned ePSXe. This is all just brand loyalty bullshit

>>8595327
>epsxe
>works
good one

>>8595327
> brand loyalty
I have literally used DuckStation for less than an hour total, I have no brand loyalty. But DuckStation was the only emulator I was able to get to work properly, ePSXe is just straight up fucked what with all its plugin bullshit and weird crashes, Mednafen has no GUI, and just straight up refused to run the ps1 exe I was trying to run. DuckStation is the only emulator I was able to find that just works out of the box, and has an actual good GUI as well.

>>8593864
This

>>8595353
>ps1 exe
anon you dumb motherfucker

>>8595353
>all its plugin bullshit
How retarded are you?

>>8594292
Funny thing is, the whole idea behind libretro, back when it was libsnes, was precisely to decouple core emulation code from frontend shit most emudevs don't care much for (there's a reason several newer emulators opt to just lift their frontend code from Dolphin). That is, ideally, the emudev could 100% focus on making their emulator, well, emulate, without worrying about shit like adding DirectX and OpenGL backends, having to use toolkits suck as Qt or GTK, and other stuff not actually related to emulation, and leave that to the libretro frontend to handle. Additionally, since libretro is portable, your core is much more easily ported wherever RetroArch itself is ported, so long as said platform meets certain performance and spec requirements. On paper, this sounds like it would be a huge boon for emudevs.

Of course, in reality, emudevs are often a fickle lot who are content to reinvent the wheel over and over again. NIH is rampant in the scene. And of course, it doesn't help that RA's lead is a caustic motherfucker who burns bridges at the drop of a hat, so there's that, too.

>>8595343
It does. I'm not going to pretend that it's better than the alternatives, but it will play the games and they will look and run as they're supposed to.

Just make a mednafen port with a non-subhuman GUI and good shader support. That's all you fucking need to do. Neither cuckstation nor retroshart could accomplish it.

>>8595380
>Just make a mednafen port with a non-subhuman GUI
Mednaffe
>good shader support
Reshade and/or buy a CRT

damn that was hard

>>8594705
I like RetroArch and use it for most things, but this
>Most standalone from the fifth gen onward are all outdated as fuck
is simply not true. In fact, RetroArch's 6th-gen cores are severely outdated and quite buggy, which is a shame, because thanks to RetroArch's feature set, when they do work, they CAN outperform the standalone versions in things like frame pacing, audio and input latency, and of course, shaders, so their potential is huge, but no one competent is working on them at the moment.

As for 5th-gen, there is Beetle Saturn, which is severely outdated, but other than that, the PS1 and N64 cores are quite good and IMO preferable to the standalones, but the standalones themselves are not bad by any means.

>>8595365
ps1 exe as generated by a dev-kit. I was not trying to play a game, I was trying to test something I had compiled from source.

Recommend me the emulator you use for your favorite console anons.

>>8595448
My favorite console?

bsnes is my favorite emulator but I don't know if the SNES is my favorite console.

>>8595448
Super nes: snes9x
psx: epsxe
nes: nestopia
megadrive/cd: kega fusion
arcade: winkawaks
pc-98: np21th
msx: bluemsx
saturn: SSF
pc-engine: magic engine

Call me old if you want, but I never had any problem.

>>8595448
I just pick one of the recommended ones on the emugen wiki.

>>8595448
>Arcade
FinalBurn Neo or Fightcade. Don't have enough autism to setup MAME.
>NES
Mesen
>SNES
bsnes for general use, snes9x for some romhacks that refuse to work on bsnes
>Genesis+CD+GG+MS
Genesis GX Plus
>32X
No real choice outside of Kega Fusion for this one.
>PC Engine
Mednafen
>NEO-GEO
FinalBurn Neo
>N64
Mupen64Plus-Next
>PS1
Mednafen usually, DuckStation if it's a full 3D game that I want to upscale
>Saturn
Mednafen
>Dreamcast
Flycast & Flycast Dojo
>PS2
PCSX2 Nightly
>GameCube
Dolphin
>XBOX
xemu
>GB, GBC
Sameboy and mGBA are fairly comparable.
>GBA
mGBA
>NDS
melonDS
>PSP
PPSSPP

>>8595448
I don't need to, I still have my original consoles

>>8595448
these niggas can't read
bsnes/bsnes ra core

>>8595448
Playing on my potato laptop
>NES
Mesen
>SNES
bsnes-mt
>GBC/GB
Sameboy
>GBA
mGBA
>N64
m64p (final gliden64 build)
>GC
Dolphin
>PSP
PPSSPP
>PSX
Duckstation
>DS
melonDS but haven't played on it yet since MDS itself says it's not yet feature complete/near completion

>>8595448
>>8595669
Oops, my favorite's PPSSPP. Just fucking fast, works on my potato with no questions asked.
It should be the bar for emulators to follow, along with bsnes and Dolphin.

>>8595669
>melonDS but haven't played on it yet since MDS itself says it's not yet feature complete/near completion
It's the most "complete" emulator out so far. So you may as well use it.

>>8595674
Too bad about the input lag though

>>8595703
I get what you mean but I'm a bit oc when it comes to emulators, I also have this kind of "problem" with Dolphin since their most stable release is usually the "nightly" build which I associate with "experimental" but thanks for the heads-up.
>>8595706
I can live with it and I can't complain too much, since I'm playing on a potato so I appreciate more the optimization that allows the emulator to run on it.

>>8595669
MelonDS is very good. Used DeSmuME ages ago and a few games I liked on original hardware felt unplayable because of the input lag. No issues since switching to MelonDS.

>>8595725
Oh don't remind me of Desmume, I remember playtesting some pokemon and golden sun on it way back when it's the only choice and it was dreadful.
I'll try playing on melonds sometimes then.

>>8595392
>Mednaffe
its shit

>>8595778
elaborate?

>>8594617
No, one of the lead guys behind it went on a rant about minorities.

>>8595778
>its shit
It really isnt.

>>8595706
>Too bad about the input lag though
Use D3D11, the input lag is MUCH better then the other backends.

>>8595669
You may want to switch to RMG for N64. It's more up-to-date than m64p's final GLideN64 build, and it's just as easy to use and set up.

>>8595910
I don’t think so, there’s setting, I forget what it was called that caused a decent amount of input lag unless you change it
Something like disc delay or umd delay

>>8595927
That looks interesting, I'll bookmark that and playtest it sometime. the m64p is playing Majora's Mask well in my initial playtesting of it and sm64 was smooth as hell.
Any actual improvements on the MRG over the final gliden64 build? I just read parallei but I'm anxious that that'll be too much for my potato.
Intel HD 4000 here with i5 3380M.

>>8593298
If you're not using mednafen/beetle/xebra, you may as well use epsxe.

>>8595052
In other words, make it actually usable, packed with features and better performing. Usability matters, no one normal wants to put up with autism CLI finicky interfaces. Even if the duckstation author had just copy-pasted mednafen (which he didn't) he'd still deserve the merit of making it functional.

>>8596043
mednafen is already functional you absolute retard, stop samefagging

>>8595052
>spend your time and effort making mednafen
>Can't even make a GUI for it
This shit was sorted out in 1998, you github mutants. No wonder nobody cares about your shit. You wanna sell a car, at least sell it with the doors installed.

>>8595980
Multi threading was added to OpenGL and Vulcan in 1.7.1 and it introduced at least 3 frames of input lag, D3D11 wasn’t updated so is much more responsive. There are other settings to reduced it as you said but this is the biggest change you can make.

>>8595132
filtered by command line prompts

>>8596043
>no one normal wants to put up with autism CLI finicky interfaces.
So download a GUI for it, stop whining about a complete non issue.

>>8596087
OR, I use an actually decent emulator with a better GUI already built-in and more functions.

>zoomshitters baseding about games having their internal resolution cranked and disgusting filters enabled

>>8596110
>a better GUI already built-in
Duckstation GUI sucks, and unlike mednafen, the default settings are terrible as well. It renders at the wrong aspect ratio, unnecessarily crops borders that have rendered content in them, and slaps a bilinear filter on top of everything to boot. Meanwhile, outside of controller configs, mednafen literally just works without tweaks. Its defaults are already perfect because the creator actually cares about accuracy and understands PS1 hardware. Now go fuck yourself subhuman.

>>8595983
If it can't run ParaLLEl, use GLideN64. Unlike m64p, it has both.

>>8596142
Have sex.

>>8596167
I accept your concession. ;^)

>>8594467
>>spend your time and effort making cool thing WITH A LICENSE THAT SAYS "PLEASE COPY AND IMPROVE MY THING"
forgot this part in your insane ramble

>>8596203
Huehuehue it's legal term goyim, pssst, nothin personell kid.

This bullshit every time, every behavior is subjected to being morally and ethically valued. SwanStation is a copy and paste ripoff and RA makes money off it. The fact that you RAniggers resort to making unrelated arguments about the legality (which is never the point) to excuse your cunt behavior is proof that you are cunts. A strawman won't change that.

>>8596219
>unrelated arguments
Substitute that fully correct line at the start of your post and the entire thing falls to pieces, Stenzek, because you don't have a sane point to make if you can understand that one.

>>8596219
>Huehuehue it's legal term goyim, pssst, nothin personell kid.
Nice antisemitic trope there.
>SwanStation is a copy and paste ripoff and RA makes money off it.
And Stenzek chose to license his project with a license that explicitly allows this.
He's been sperging about this for ages now and never chose to relicense his code with a different license that doesn't allow this while getting rid of any GPL code from other projects. Instead he chose to publish his own duckstation core with a CC-NC license and GPL code from those projects still intact, effectively infringing on their rights granted by the GPL.

>>8594467
>And if you don't, some faggot will just copy your code, create a core, and the RA cunts keep 100% of the money.
Man, if only there was some way of preventing this. But I guess there's not, so it's probably best to just license your code under the GPL. Really sucks there's no alternative, though.

>>8594874
Dolphin is the gold standard for UI on an emulator, that is what we should be striving for.

>>8596219
Let me respond to this in a way you can hopefully understand.

You see, when you use the GPL, you can morally suck a bag of dicks while you ethically watch other people make money with their copy and paste ripoffs of your code. The legality of this pretty much starts and ends with you crying in a corner of your cuckshed while the cunts laugh all the way to the bank. Seething won't change that.

>>8596219
Who even uses that?
People use mednafens ps1 core

If you want to see what kind of attention-starved creature would be enough of a loser to desperately stir drama over his own licensing mistake like this, take a look at this:
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/duckstation/deleted/deleted/type/op/
The guy's off the deep-end nuts. Just by this thread you can tell he thinks it's believable behavior for anonymous posters with no stake in this would incessantly, furiously defend a stranger's honor on /vr/.

>>8595378
After 5 years of using epsxe, I recently spent 2 hours trying to get the audio in Dino Crisis to not desync during cutscenes. I then downloaded duckstation and haven't looked back.

>>8596012
thanks

thanks for telling me bros, I downloaded the latest update just in case

retroarch is shit btw

>>8597127
duckstation is the best emulator of all time and this fact upsets quite a few people. we can only hope to get something of similar quality for the ps2 and gamecube

>>8596163
Oh that's neat. But doesn't that basically mean that they're the same? Or does RMG have a few advancements since?

>>8593615
Does anyone have links to this stuff? Sounds hilarious

>>8596706
>>8596792
Look, I know how you subhumans think, the welfare queen mentality, the "everything below x dollars in California is fair gaming for looting", the whole "law dictates right and wrong", the whole "massa's whip be telling us whatchu do".

I don't particularly care about PS1 emulators, duckstation or retroarch for that matter, but the point is, I know you people can't tell right or wrong without the law. You have no sense of morality or ethics, and the only value you understand is that measured in dollars.

Maybe the duckstation author should have chosen another license, regardless, you people are not warranted immunity from criticism of your behavior. I know you don't understand it, I know you are simply incapable of comprehending that some people are capable of finding something reprehensible even if it's within the confines of law.

You are right, you and your RA spergs are allowed to steal other people's work and profit off it. Others are also entitled to pointing out your immorality and your reaction, as always, is to ook, eek, fling shit and shout how it's legal so it can be done unquestionably. Because "massa allow it".

>>8598185
>open-source is immoral
Now go tell that to /g/ Mr. Gates

>>8598392
Holy shit, you have the reading skills of a 9 year-old.

>>8598501
>the whole "law dictates right and wrong"
>I know you people can't tell right or wrong without the law. You have no sense of morality or ethics
>you people are not warranted immunity from criticism of your behavior. I know you don't understand it, I know you are simply incapable of comprehending that some people are capable of finding something reprehensible even if it's within the confines of law.
>Others are also entitled to pointing out your immorality and your reaction, as always, is to ook, eek, fling shit and shout how it's legal so it can be done unquestionably. Because "massa allow it".
Nah your argument is literally incomprehensible /pol/shit and niggershit, and ultimately boils down to "open-source is immoral because.... It just is, OK!". You probably think open-source is communism too.

>>8598569
Suppose it is legal to drive with a x amount of alcohol per deciliter of blood.

Someone questions that limit as being unreasonably high and argues that driving with such amount of alcohol in the blood is irresponsible and likely to cause accidents. Said person may or may not argue for that legal limit to be modified.

A retard comes in and argue that it is ridiculous to make such argument. The limit of x mg/dL is legally prescribed, thus it cannot be questioned as being morally or ethically unreasonable, because it is within the limit of the law, and the law is moral and ethical.

1. Using your """"logic"""", we would arrive at the conclusion the first person is arguing that driving is immoral. This is ridiculous.
2. The retard, on the other hand, is reiterating the notion that legality is the measure of morality and ethic and is unquestionable.
3. Applying the retard """"logic"""", we cannot question Jim Crow or the Holocaust were immoral or unethical, or we must necessarily be hypocritical and selective.

Sorry, you're retarded, your point is retarded, you are incapable of understanding basic logic and the brilliant conclusion you reached after reaching a simple and concise post was that "open source bad". I'm sorry, but yes, you do have the reading skills of a 9 year-old.

>>8598648
Suppose I'm stenzek writing code for DuckStation.

I """""""""""""""""""steal"""""""""""""""""""" and incorporate various GPL licensed code from Medafen, Dolphin, and PCSX (and even Beetle PSX later down the line) into my own project. I release it as DuckStation and keep the project licensed under GPL because I'm ethically obligated to do so since I used many other GPL licensed code in my own project.

Someone comes in and forks my project because I wasn't maintaining it. He keeps the project licensed under GPL, which he is ethically obligated to do so. Keeping everything open-source means that if the fork made some kind of feature improvement, I could incorporate it within upstream (aka, stealing according to retards) so long as I kept the forks code open-source in my own project.

A retard comes in and tries to enforce his own moral code, and starts throwing a spergfit because the tenants of open-source are immoral to him. He can't grasp morality beyond his own mental constraints, and doesn't understand that his beliefs of morality are arbitrary. He throws allusions to the Holocaust and lynching because he thinks the situations are equivalent since his brain has been polluted by constant internet-induced political psychosis.

Sorry, you're retarded, your point is retarded, you are incapable of understanding basic logic and the brilliant conclusion you reached was that "THIS IS LITERALLY LIKE NIGGERS ROBBING WALMART"

>>8598721
It is clearly a comparison for arguing against the absurdity of legality as morality, nothing was said that implied that there was or that there should be any equivalence between those, so the only question there is if you're really retarded or just pretending.

As for the argument against stenzek being a moral hypocrite for accusing others of having done the same thing he supposedly did, that just proves that of behaviors can be criticized outside the scope of legality. In other words, just a moment ago, stenzek's rants were meaningless or unfair because the actions of those who "ripped him off" were legal, but the moment it is pointed out that he has done the same thing, if one were to argue "so what, that's legal", legality somehow magically doesn't matter anymore and he's liable to being criticized morally and ethically. Funny that isn't?

>>8594467
Here's an idea: Don't use a copyright license that explicitly lets them copy your code.

>>8598764
Here's an idea: Give credit where's it's due and we don't have to ruin the emulator scene with shitty licenses or proprietary emulators because developers don't want to put up with RetroArch dipshits.

>>8598779
>Give credit where's it's due
It was already given, you can read SwanStation's repo if you want.

Why don't these emu devs do the same thing back to RA? Fork it and improve it and take it off of their hands. Problem solved.

>mfw retards are crying about the butthurt ducktranny while I continue to play PS1 games with Mednafen/Beetle

reminder Byuu tried to extort $400,000 to remove mean old comments off of an internet forum and when that didn't work faked his own death in Japan

bsnes and higan suck ass

>>8598841
reminder that the best websites on the internet are all the ones you hate

>>8596065
>You wanna build a car and give it away for free, at least make doors and put them on for free too.

>>8598824
Based

>>8598824
I don't think you know what "extort" means.

>>8596065
The options were:
>this emulator works well but has no GUI included so you'll need to bring your own
vs
>this emulator is SHIT but you can replace the default graphics and sound emulation with something better written by somebody else
and some people still say epsxe is better because it's "easy"

>>8598841
>bsnes and higan suck ass
bsnes is very good, the retroarch core allows you to choose which autism options you want to emulate which is better than the old 3 accuracy levels
Higan was fucking unusable garbage, the standalone GUI was pure bullshit that would only make sense to a mentally ill troomer

>>8598879
did you quote the wrong anon?

>>8598908
I think he meant to reply to
>>8598841

How does Beetle PSX compare to regular Mednafen?

>>8598913
They're all fine.

>>8598935
Isn't Beetle PSX using a very old version of mednafen though? It hasn't been updated for years

>>8598943
it just werx

God fucking damn I hate online drama and faggotry. I fucking hate it. Is this a modern thing? have people always been this fucking autistic?

>>8598965
Emulator drama has been a thing at least since nesticle times

>>8598965
This thread is what happens when /emugen/ leaks outside of its containment board on /vg/.

>>8593604
He probably wouldn't if the project he forked off weren't also GPL.

>>8598965
Online emulator drama has been a thing forever, although it wasn't this autistic.

>>8599113
>although it wasn't this autistic.
It really was, you probably just weren't deeply embedded back then.

Do people not remember the reputation Nintendo emulator developers had for years? they were literally considered subhuman for over a decade.

>>8599171
kek wouldn't surprise me. Seems like most of the drama revolves around Nintendo emulation scenes.

>>8599221
he says on a psx+retroarch drama thread

Stenzek did nothing wrong he properly credited the origins of the code he used from other projects.
Profiting and not crediting is what's wrong, regardless of the license, and much more when the code us private. That's outright stealing.
Moreover, being an asshole about it and pretending that you made all of it is worse. Morally wrong.

>>8599292
>Profiting
libretro receiving donations =/= selling swanstation for money
>crediting
already credited, only difference is stenzek pretends as if he built the emulator from the ground-up by himself when speaking to laymen, while swanstation never pretended to be anything but a fork
>and much more when the code us private
no proof has been provided that code was stolen from a private repo
>Moreover, being an asshole about it and pretending that you made all of it is worse.
Exactly, why does stenzek do it then? Why did he make his own RA core closed-source and threaten to make standalone duckstation closed-source?

>>8599292
>Profiting is what's wrong
Whose profiteering?

>>8599292
>Profiting
>>8598843

>>8594456
You referring to this?
https://web.archive.org/web/20220203190044/https://www.kotaku.com.au/2022/02/ocarina-of-time-pc-allegations/

Looks like kotaku deleted the article

>>8599547
>/ocarina-of-time-pc-allegations

who gives a fuck about a regressive media outlet, the port is nearly done according to the devs themselves and has nothing to do with the reverse engineered source.

It will go on.

>>8593298
Sad, but Beetle PSX works, so no big loss.

What is it about programming that makes so many turn crazy?

>>8599781
I don't think it's the programming itself
It's just a bunch of cunts that what to be credited for shit
no different from people that ride around on harley davidsons

>>8599787
But the guy here turned crazy while being credited. Sounds more like that's an excuse not an actual step in the craziness mindset.

>>8598185
>Maybe the duckstation author should have chosen another license
You think? It was about as stupid as your misguided belief that GPL licensed code can ever be "stolen" by anyone or that you can just take that code back over some hurt feefees. Hang on, I gotta loot a new TV real quick.

>>8598185
I love how virtue signalling social justice fruits are the most progressive people on the planet while on Twitter, but end up showing their true colors as racists and muh soggy knees just as soon as they get a taste of anonymity.

This particular specimen is an interesting example. Not only is he the usual Godwin's Law invoking drama queen with ugly glasses, a funny haircut, and a penchant for flannel, but this particular specimen is also guaranteed to have a github account -- despite having never written a single line of code in his life. His "contributions" to FOSS projects, via correcting typos and "fighting the good fight" in threads pushing draconian Codes of Conduct on projects that don't want them, make him just as valuable as any actual programmer in his own mind. It's a different kind of white knighting incel hoping for a reward, to be sure, but it's still a white knighting incel.

Fucking clowns, anyway, thanks for a great psx emulator.

>>8599713
>regressive media outlet
Yeh I agree. As per usual, they published a story based on tweets from burner account to stir up shit.

Anyway I'm interested to see what non PC platforms it can be ported to.

Connor McLaughlin aka Stenzek, now calling himself Talreth as the AetherSX2 PS2 emulator dev, is faking outrage so he can bury the Stenzek personality since he thinks that the Damon PS2 devs are out to get him.

He's simply cashing in on the RA dev drama to justify his paranoias while bitching that frontend devs are making money off his work like he's being an alrtuist while accepting hundreds of dollars a month from his Patreon.

Pretty scummy imo. He just claimed a ddos attack on the aether website too which may or may not have happened.

who cares about this shit what can't you even play on duckstation

>>8598185
You're right but you're fighting an uphill battle here.

looks like it was even set to 'Archived / Read-Only' on github

'git clone' this and keep it somewhere safe in case the owner decides to completely nuke it:

https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation

>>8598913
Beetle psx, the core?
It's always up to date on RA.

>>8598824
it is rather impressive people spend tons of time setting shit stuff like retroarch or complaining about whatever happened to duckstation but cant dedicate 5 minutes (10 - 15 if you want to use shaders) to configure mednafen

>>8602287
B-but NO U.I.!!

>>8593736
I think it needs to be brought up more often how many emulator developers are clear schizos and autists. byuu was like a walking encyclopedia of mental disorders. translators and speedtrannies go into same category.
still, i feel sad for the duckstation dev. but really, both the retroarch fag and him are mildly deranged.
>>8593571
somehow emu devs always make emulators for free and then get angry they don't get any money

>>8602323
If we're going to be honest, most emudevs aren't actually this bad. If it seems otherwise, it's because those are the names you hear about. The dudes behind Snes9x, Mupen64Plus, and other more lowkey projects mostly keep to themselves and start no drama. They just quietly work at their emulators at their own pace, gracefully accepting whatever contributions happen to come their way. It's made for mostly boring, glacial progress, but slow and steady has kept these projects alive for the better part of the last ten to fifteen years.

>>8602287
I'm not using mednafen as my daily PS1/Saturn driver until it implements .chd support.

>>8602287
it doesn't take tons of time
it's about the same

>>8602379
That would be a good idea. I do not use .chd files though.

>>8602287
RetroArch is easier to install and setup if you use Linux

>>8602619
I don't think that's the case
it's just that people who use Linux can understand basic shit on computers

>>8602626
I mean, it's between going to the libretro site and either downloading the setup utility or a portable ZIP build on Windows, or sudo apt install retroarch on Ubuntu and others. Upgrading is easier, too, since last I checked, there's no way to upgrade RetroArch within RetroArch itself, only its cores and other auxiliary components, so on Windows, you gotta go back and download it from the site or the buildbot, whereas on Linux, your package manager makes it easier.

>>8602703
>on Ubuntu and others
For us that use Arch (I use Arch btw) it's a little more involved. For some fucking reason, our prebuilt versions are compiled without the online updater turned on. We're supposed to build individual cores from the AUR. Yeah, fuck that. We just build RA straight from the libretro git repo and use the software the way it's intended to be used.

>>8602619
I use both windows and linux. I am not saying that retroarch is necessarily shit, I just dont like it and the default UI is very bad. After sometime I did manage to run what I wanted to play (shmups with run-ahead) but had all those issues previously mentioned, plus sometimes my gpu wouldnt recognize my monitor, setting up shaders is a pain in the ass (ngl it isnt much different with mednafen but at least i did it faster). I do praise run-ahead feature, its great at 1-frame. However, i prefer having individual emulators for each console, while most have a good, straight interface (except mednafen but its actually pretty chill to set up and edit the config file), i find fun in testing different emulators for the same system, checking updates, etc.

If I had a CRT and wanted to just use the pad, retroarch seems to be the best choice, but I would tweak around and find a solution to plug the tv on the computer with zero lag

>>8594292
>the expectancy of standalone devs to also waste time keeping the RA cores up-to-date,
No one is expecting that, dipshit.

>>8594126
>>8594378
Ps3 is good for the ps3. Never liked it for retroarch

>>8599930
There's nothing immoral about using GPL code and changing, improving or adapting to anyone's needs or wants as long as all changes are freely usable under the same terms. In fact that's exactly what free software is all about. It's about as morally just as it gets. Sometimes it happens that other people than those who wrote the code profit from it because they include it into some larger software distribution. Just ask Red Hat, SUSE or Canonical. Big deal. They also write a lot of code and release it for everyone else to use, so you can hardly call them leeches. Where it gets into immoral territory is when that code is essentially useless and unusable because you can't actually run it. Locked down boot loaders and all that shit. RetroArch does nothing like that. Any changes the RetroArch devs make the original authors can pull and merge if they like them.

>>8597768
Doesn't dolphin do gamecube?

>>8603098
Communists expected Chinese to not profit off their free code. It's like lefties don't understand human nature.

Why are people so autistic about retroarch cores? Is there something I'm missing? The convenience and feature set of retroarch is huge, if you can't match that in your standalone emulator just make a core.

>>8603228
They should have used a non-commercial-use license like MAME, then. But that kind of sucks because now they can't easily re-use a lot of other code unless it's a permissive cucklicense.
It goes both ways, tho. If I want to make and sell a mini console there's nothing wrong with using RA for that, either. As long as all changes to the code are made available that is perfectly fine and not at all against the spirit of the GPL.
>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
> Many people believe that the spirit of the GNU Project is that you should not charge money for distributing copies of software, or that you should charge as little as possible—just enough to cover the cost. This is a misunderstanding.
>Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can. If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license. If this seems surprising to you, please read on.
>charge as much as they wish or can.
>If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license.

>>8598185
The moral thing to do is to use your Freedom and use the software how you wish. Listen to Stallmann you fag

>>8603258
Apparently emu authors are unhappy when their emulator gets ported to the libretro API. As far as I understand it hurts their ego and makes them feel less important and significant because they feel like their work has been "stolen" and incorporated into something bigger and is now just a small piece of a more varied ecosystem that they don't control.
Also it seems like there are a lot of fags on Redidit who bother authors about outdated or buggy ports or some shit. I haven't seen this because I'm not a fag who hangs out with those kind of fags, but looking at >>8593813, >>8594178, >>8594292, >>8594467 that seems to be going on as well. In which case the correct response is called WONTFIX&GTFO if the author doesn't give a shit about RA.
Personally, if I wrote an emulator I'd just directly target the libretro API, because it's simple and gives so much stuff for free it's dumb not to use it.

>>8603098
Why the fuck are you replying to my post? Did you even read it?

>>8603671
Easy, bro, I must have clicked on the wrong post.

>>8602703
>>8602757
Just use the RetroArch Flatpak. Works fine.

Many emudevs post on /r/emulation in case anyone's not aware of that side of the story.

>>8604570
I love how several MAME devs, who have a longstanding grudge against RetroArch since forever ago, took that opportunity to dig all their grievances back up and even threw in the "TwinAphex was a clear cause of Near's suicide" accusation for good measure because why not?

TA is no white sheep, that much is true, but some of the shitflinging that goes on between these guys is asinine. I wouldn't put much stock in what most of them say.

Just use Xebra guys. The most accurate ps1 emulator.

>>8602757
>flatpak
Shitsux, tho.
It's unnecessary bloat, just run the naked binary.
>>8604193
Bitch about it to the maintainers until they change that retardation. Is there no AUR version with that shit not disabled?

>>8604589
I mean, TwinAphex is a trash person

so what's the problem?

>>8593469
Did you know that Microsoft stole from Apple and when taken to court their defense was Apple stole it from IBM and Microsoft won?

Same shit here. Duckfag stole from several other open source projects. He had no right to make a private repo since it contained code from other open source hardware.

Get fucked.

>>8605401
TA should be criticized for things he's actually said and done, but honestly, much of it just amounts to talking a lot of shit on IRC and saying no-no words the woke crowd find unacceptable. Blaming him for Near's suicide is much more dubious, and it's doubly fucked up because you just know it's being brought up by people who want to score points or get even.

>>8605436
Motherfucker hasn't even provided any proof that any actual private code was stolen. He makes it sound like they hacked into his PC or Github account and took it. If such a thing happened at all, it's more likely the guy wrote some code and shared it with someone outside of Github, and that code then made it into Swanstation. If this is what happened, he ought to come out and say it, identify the person responsible, and point to the code in question. He hasn't done any of that, and he claims it's because it's "not worth the effort" to set things right, yet he's fine with all the little drama bubbling around his claims. If he didn't intend to do anything, he should've kept his mouth shut instead of seething in public for all to see. This to me demonstrates either retarded or a snake.

>>8603258
a lot of emu devs are fucking autistic and, for some reason, get fucking mad when their open source projects get forked or incorporated into other projects

I have no fucking idea why

>>8605516
They're control freaks. They're all about it while they can freely take from other projects and while others can contribute to theirs, but not when others then go on to do the same. They want to have their cake and eat it, too.

reading about this shit here, compared to going to read it on reddit, is hilarious

>inb4 go back

I don't go there often. But holy shit they are fucking insufferable. I got a better idea about both sides of all this shit from 4chan than over there

garbage website

>>8605552
You need to go back

>>8605552
You can basically see from all the suspicious (and deleted) posts in this thread that the guy himself is going around to sites trying to shape public opinion to stroke his ego; in lieu of actually having a case he wants to make it seem like more people are shouting to trust crazy shit. Certain places are more and less vulnerable to this, and frankly a lot of 4chan is too, it's just not sailing here because there are more people aware of software development drama than average.

>>8605469
>This to me demonstrates either retarded or a snake.
Hanlon's cake.

>>8605612
Even /v/ quickly turned on the dude after briefly being on his side once his Discord logs came out and his schizo ramblings were laid bare.

schizokek should just kill himself like he did his project

>>8605612
It's not sailing here because the duckstation dev has been shitting up /vr/ with spam for a while now, often times going into autistic fits at the mere mention of even mednafen which he apparently borrowed quite a bunch of code from.

>>8602379
The Mednafen PS1 core is working just fine with chds on my machine. As far as I know, it always has. All of my CD stuff is in chd.

>>8605562
no need to damage control, your shithole is indeed quite red shit.

>>8606509
He's right. You need to go on back and stay there. You're never going to fit in here.

inb4
"he"

>>8606512
>You're never going to fit in here.
tell it to your self, kek.
imagine craving for anonymous validation or hoping someone doesn't tell you to go back.
It's time to go back.

>>8606527
Imagine wanting to fit in so bad that you preemptively bring up the fact that you're a Redditor and then write a blog post about how much worse it is than 4chan hoping for some kind of weird peer acceptance on an anonymous Liberian Kazoo forum.
It's time to go back.

>>8606507
Mednafen and Beetle PSX are completely different things. The former has higher compatibility, higher accuracy and better performance. The latter uses a 3 year old version of mednafen as its base and only incorporates essential bugfixes instead of actual emulation improvements

>>8606748
And yet it runs CHDs.

>>8606749
If you're going to use Beetle PSX, you may as well just use DuckStation at that point. It unironically incorporates more up-to-date mednafen code than Beetle, and it's hardware renderer causes less artifacting than Beetle HW. The higherarchy is

Mednafen > DuckStation > Beetle PSX > Beetle PSX HW

>>8606760
By that you mean SwanStation.

>>8606769
SwanStation is somehow more broken than the DuckStation core schizozek abandoned years ago. So no, I'm referring to standalone

>>8606789
>SwanStation is somehow more broken than the DuckStation core
How so?

>>8606872
It's not. You're either replying to stenkek himself, or one of his cheerleaders who got his ass hurt by the RA dweeb that flames people.

The best part of this entire Duckstation trainwreck is watching all the Twitterettes having a meltdown over the GPL working exactly as intended. The utter lack of self-awareness is just comical. The complete inability to see that the GPL exists to stop them from doing exactly what they're trying to do right now. People like them are one of the key reasons why the GPL do what it do and they just can't see it.

>>8606980
The thing I found most funny is how, when the MAME devs took this chance to hound libretro devs over some licensing crap in one of their MAME cores involving a certain game driver, they took pains to comply, and one of the dudes maintaining said core ended up leaving the project over it. If Stenzek's claims, particularly that of "stolen private code," held any water, he could have easily done the same and got his wish now that the public sight was on libretro, but of course, he did jack and shit, which once again leads me to conclude he never had an argument that could hold water and the stolen code stuff was all schizo bullshit on his part.

>>8607051
And by do the same, I mean point out the offending code, of course, just like the MAME dudes did.

>>8607051
I guarantee you all of this drama essentially boils down to him being mad he's not getting a cut of the libretro donation money.

>>8607072
AFAIK the final nail in his relationship with libretro was seeing how much Piepacker raised, a project which included Swanstation and at the time employed the dev that made that fork. He was so rectally devastated over it that he refused an employment offer on their part.

>>8607080
And he thinks every time this happens it's people "stealing" his GPL'ed code, right?