/vr/ - Retro Games

Yes, it's completely unfinished and buggy, and it essentially retconned TLR only to fuck it up really hard. Lara being dead would've been a dignified end to the Core era.

>>8566092
maybe they're afraid to mention it because the mainstream opinion is that it's bad.
I don't agree or disagree with it, but i've noticed people just go with the flow until someone with a large enough megaphone says otherwise, even if they liked or disliked thing.

>>8566104
I thought Chronicles retconned TLR Lara's death

>>8566110
You clearly haven't played the games.

>>8566117
no I explicitly remembered that Von Croy dig her out of Egypt at the end of Chronicles, I need to check

>>8566104
Ignore this retard. I've completed it both on PC and PS2, there is a single bug in the game, and that bug allows you to pick up a particular ammo item indefinitely because it doesn't disappear when you grab it. Once only in the game.

PS2 version runs suprisingly smooth with no frame drops and I would recommend it wholeheartedly.

People disliked the game because of extremely lite RPG mechanics (Throughout the game you need to push/climb an object in order for Lara to progress with her strenght and be able to make longer jumps etc). Which is also a tertiary gameplay mechanic at best and it doesnt happen nearly as often to piss you off.

Game mostly tanked because gameplay and controls didn't progress at all compared to the PS1 titles. Its still the tankiest and clunkiest game ever, just like its predecessors were, with all the annoyances to boot - you need to accelerate your runs to make proper jumps, jumps fail often, trial and error gameplay etc.

That being said, it's a very comfy game and probably my second favorite TR after 2. Definitely give ti a go but keep the above stuff in your mind and adjust expectations accordingly.

Also, best Lara model.

>>8566165
>'a single bug in the game'
>reddit spacing
>best lara model
this post is not even worthy of a proper reply

>>8566165
eh the only thing I find that's objectively bad is the pseudo-RPG mechanics only because its half-assed.

>>8566180
Nice discussion shitlord

>>8566184
The RPG bullshit is really not that annoying because it happens 5 or 6 times in the game in total, and whenever you encounter one of those "my legs are not strong enough to make this jump" situations, there is usually an object conveniently placed right behind the corner where you become more stronger. It's retarded for sure but not a nuisance.

Speaking of RPG mechanics, I did like the dialogue system. At least the game tried something new compared to the previous 5 carbon copies.

>>8566186
>The RPG bullshit is really not that annoying because it happens 5 or 6 times in the game in total, and whenever you encounter one of those "my legs are not strong enough to make this jump" situations, there is usually an object conveniently placed right behind the corner where you become more stronger. It's retarded for sure but not a nuisance.
fair enough, its been a while since ive last played so i mightve exaggerated the annoyance.
>Speaking of RPG mechanics, I did like the dialogue system.
loved it, you can make Lara be a vicious bitch, I just wished that it had more consequences rather than just a different tone to get info.

>>8566092
Yes I even enjoyed the soulless reboot more

>>8566125
You are right

>>8566203
>soulless reboot
Lmao, did you even play that shit?

>>8566203
now now lets not go that far

>>8566125
>>8566410
only backpack

For me it's the sexualized renders

>>8568053
Ah, yes.
I hate her hair in these.

>>8568000
the last thing he says in that scene is "We've found her" and there's no body, so it's safe to say that they left themselves a way to bring her back at least.

>>8566198
>loved it, you can make Lara be a vicious bitch, I just wished that it had more consequences rather than just a different tone to get info.
It was kinda nonsensical. She talks as if she's a big imposing buff dude to guys who could easily knock her out irl.

>>8568053
>>8568132
>to think we'll never have sexy renders of OG Lara again
It fucking hurts.

>>8568776
you could just, you know, jerk off to porn

>>8568776
some people are making their own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDQxLdyhX2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtXu9x_wzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4ef4oqwhAA

idk but it does have kino soundtrack at least
https://youtu.be/41aq7BR_5nY

>>8568651
well yeah but she was always this backtalking bitch since the first game, I dont think her being a vicious bitch is out of character

>>8568776
>>8566203
>>8566165
>>8566104
Even Nintendoes 69 what Piss2 isn't: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wE2GF8dpjVQ

>>8568894
>RE model in Angel of Darkness
Oh

>>8566203
Average enjoyer:

Can fix though patches?

>>8566092
The game destroyed whole franchise who built followers for year.

>>8570903
theres a bunch of unofficial patches throughout the year, its safe to say that its better to play on PC

Remember G4 trailer.

AVGN?

>>8572398
wut?

>>8570929
Chronicles did that, AoD just put final nail in the coffin. not Core's fault really, Eidos is pushing them too hard

>>8566203
Nulara with her shitty bow has nothing to do with tomb raider.

>>8566092
It's ignored because the game flopped but it's much better than Cyberpunk or anything that Crystal Dynamics has made. Yes the IA is stupid and the game is unfinished but you can try this mod out and see how you feel about it. https://core-design.com/community_aodrestorationmodpack.html

>>8572398
It’s been widely panned since it came out. Le funny angry YouTube man had nothing to do with the game’s reception. It’s always been seen as a buggy, unfun, borderline unplayable mess

>>8566092
Bad gameplay and buggy as fuck. I played the game and I enjoyed it a lot because it came bundled with my first ATI Radeon graphics card. But bad gameplay and terrible controls. The original controls were quirky but you got used to them and you controlled Lara fluid and fast. Impossible with AoD. Never tried to replay it again. Angel of darkness along with last revelation and tomb raider reboot (and all following this) are the only tomb raider games I haven't replayed. I consider them the weakest.

Tomb Raider Legend after AoD was unbelievably good.

>>8573784
Legend had too much quipping. The two guys on the radio never had anything interesting or useful to say. Lara's doing dangerous stunts on a motorcycle and nigger is hollering in her ear.

>>8574234
Yes, I admit it was cringe as fuck. But the rest of the game was great. And they completely removed these faggots from anniversary and toned them down a lot in Underworld. In my opinion the Crystal Dynamics trilogy turned out way better than expected although I have to admit the quality was all over the place (best versions were the PC version and the HD trilogy on PS3). Unfortunately they decided to drop all this and become a soulless copy of uncharted which was already very uninspired even from the first game.

>>8573459
The bow was cool though. It seems to make more sense for the kind of places she explores. What sucks is how they completely removed the guns akimbo because of gun violence or whatever they said while nuLara has a larger body count than ever before.

>>8574969
>>8573459
Bayonettchad won't stop winning.

>>8574252
>they completely removed these faggots from anniversary
that's because the original didnt have them either

Thanks for beta testing PSXfags

https://youtu.be/voTxGuKkMRY

>>8576180
lol it runs worse than the GBA port

this is bait so that the autistic coder will come and sperg out so I can laugh at him

>>8576260
Hm? Coder didn't post any things?

>>8576180
nice i can finally plays TR in the superior console
>>8576260
how the hell did he get it running in the GBA of all thing

Because that proof of concept is splicing the ground and wall textures into squares. Playstation needs to do it that way to reduce warping. The N64 was never designed for that so of course it performs like ass.
You can see in the following link
https://64.media.tumblr.com/eb7db44adaefcda6047d627bfa53e9ce/tumblr_pj5sb0KezN1qfj4cso1_500.gifv
4chan won't let me post it.

I wanna take advantage of the thread,
I just descovered that a (classic) tomb raider level editor not only exists, but is still used today to create new levels ala doom.
This is great, but why is not popular?
Also, anyone can suggest some good maps?

>>8576951
>This is great, but why is not popular?
because it came with The Last Revelations IIRC, not exactly the high point of the series

>>8577050
It came with chronicles. TLR is the best TR game.

>>8577050
You make a good point, like hotline miami editor.
Maybe I should have phrased, why is not popular today. Because there are a ton of mappers community out there (like doom, quake and mario) and I'm really surprised that even if go very deep in gaming I have learned of the tomb raider community only today.
It was like descovering that roblox is a multimillion franchise.

>>8577084
it was getting stale by TR3, not saying that TLR was bad by any mean but it hasn't anything new except more locale and less polish. AOD, ironically enough, is the one that tries something different but that didn't turn out so well.

>>8577091
there's also a bunch of dedicated autists trying to fix AoD bugs and restoring contents while we're here

>>8577154
Ye, I'm downloading all the old games from gog and I saw the ton of adjustments for angel. I unironically thinked, fuck it I'll play the Ps2 version.

>>8576787
Yeah not even PCFX port?

>>8576260
See>>8570850

>>8576180
My lord vram look nice.

>Tomb Raider game where you don't raid tombs but go around cities and with annoying male sie character

The game had no chance to be good after the troubled development